Unca Harlan's Art Deco Dining Pavilion

Discussion of the man and his work.

Welcome to the Art Deco Dining Pavilion! Here's the deal. This is Harlan's little breakfast nook at Webderland. When he's not here, we chat about him and his work. When he is, we act like we're guests in his home. That's about all there is to it. (link to More specific rules) Oh, and since the nook doesn't exactly hold a crowd (and to prevent the less frequent voices from being drowned out), please limit yourself to one post a day unless Harlan asks you a direct question. The Pavilion Annex is available if you're the logorrheic type. Also, we have archives of old posts. RSS Feed

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Just Sayin'
- Saturday, November 24 2018 12:27:8

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Jason Davis <ellison.editor@gmail.com>
Burbank, California - Friday, November 23 2018 6:41:38

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Robert A Nason <nightwriterblue82@gmail.com>
Whitestone, NY - Thursday, November 22 2018 3:15:11

Excellent work, Fuller

Just a few small corrections. Orsen Welles should be Orson Welles. A. E. Von Vogt is A. E. Van Vogt, and his novel is not The Word of No A but The World of Null-A. Robert Block should be Robert Bloch. Frank Capra's film is not Last Horizon but Lost Horizon. Otherwise the list is brimming over with great reading and viewing recommendations that attest to Harlan's superior taste.

Quetzaltenango, Guatemala - Thursday, November 22 2018 1:21:21

Harlan Ellison's Watching; Joan
I won't be able to reach Joan here. 0 Contacts.

"For a people with a heritage of enslavement, evil is a concept of those who forged the shackles, not those who wore them. In the name of freedom, no monstrousness is too great." -Harlan Ellison (A Little Person)

The Recommendations Harlan Ellison made of worthwhile artists and works of art from his Sci-Fi Buzz Program Harlan Ellison's Watching (As complete as I could make it with the time allotted. Edits and additions welcome).


movie: Citizen Kane (director Orsen Welles 1941)
philosopher: Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (1899-1955)

writer/producer Wyllis Cooper (1899-1955)
old time radio 'Lights Out' (1934-1947) 'Quiet, Please' (1947-1949) available online free
movie 'Seconds' (1966 dir. John Frankenheimer; cinematography James Wong Howe; based on book by journalist/writer David Ely 1927-*)
movie 'The Dark Crystal' (1982 dir. Jim Henson, Frank Oz)
movie 'Return to Oz (1985 dir. Walter Murch)
writer L. Frank Baum 14 Oz Books
movie 'Dune' (1984 dir. David Lynch)
writer/books Frank Herbert (1920-1986) Dune Saga
movie 'Curse of the Demon' (1957 dir. Jacques Tourneur; based on 1911 short story by M.R. James 'Casting the Runes')
writer/scholar Montague Rhodes James
movie 'The Last Days of Man on Earth or 'The Final Programme' (1973 dir. Robert Fuest; based on Michael Moorcock's 'The Final Programme')
writer/musician/books Michael J. Moorcock (1939-*) the Jerry Cornelius stories
movie 'The First Man in the Moon' (1964 dir. Nathan H. Juran; stop animation Ray Harryhausen)
writer Charles Beaumont (1929-1967)
writer Walter M. Miller (1923-1996)
writer Cordwainer Smith (Paul Myron Anthony Linebarger 1913-1966)
writer Murray Leinster (1896-1975)
writer Henry Kutner (1915-1958)
writer Richard Matheson (1926-2013)
writer C.M. Kornbluth (1923-1958)
writer Leigh Brackett (1915-1978)
writer Stanley G. Weinbaum (1902-1935)
writer Jack Finney (1911-1995)
writer Avram Davidson (1923-1993)


writer/musician Terry Dowling (1947-) Wormwood, Blue Tyson, Rynosseros, Twilight Beach...
writer Damion Broderick (1944-)


writer/philosopher/essayist/poet George Santayana (1863-1952)
writer Ward Moore (1903-1978)


person Hugo Gernsback (1884-1967)
writer James Blish (1921-1975)
artist/writer Judith Blish (1940-)
designer Steve Kirk (?)
writer/illustrator/cartoonist Gahan Wilson (1930-)


writer Tom Monteleone (1946-) The Blood of the Lamb


writer Swedish Sven Christer Swahn (1933-2005)
writer Swedish Bertil Martensson (1945-) The Wingmaster's Daughter
writer Argentinian Luisa Valenzuela (1938-) The Lizard's Tail, Clara
writer/playwright/photographer/inventor Japanese Kobo Abe (1924-1993) Inter Ice Age 4, The Boxman
writer Australian Lucy Sussex (1957-) Deersnake, Thief of Lives
writer Australian Sean McMullen (1948-) Voices in the Light
writer Australian Peter Carey (1943-) Illywhacker
writer/philosopher Australian Russell Blackford (1954-) The Tempting of the Witch King
writer Australian Greg Egan (1961-)
writer Australian Leanne Frahm (1946-) Borderline


writer Andre Norton (1912-2005)
writer C.L. Moore (1911-1987)
writer Ursula Le Guin (1929-2018)
writer Joanna Russ (1937-2011)
writer Vonda McIntyre (1948-)
writer C.J. Chorryh (1942-) Down Below, Station, Cyteen
writer Connie Willis (1945-)
writer Karen J. Fowler (1950-)
writer Pamela Sargent (1948-)


television Quantum Leap
how to pronounce 'minutiae'


artist H.R. Giger (1940-2014)


artist Frank Kelly Freas (1922-2005)
book Encyclopedia of Science Fiction John Clute, Peter Nichols
writer Alan Brennert (1954-) Kindred Spirits


writer/journalist/novelist/poet/illustrator F. Gwynplaine MacIntyre (1948-2010) The Woman Between the Worlds


movie Forbidden Planet 1956 (dir. Fred M. Wilcox)
writer J.T. McIntosh (1925-2008) One in Three Hundred


artist/writer Nick Bantock (1949-) The Griffin and Sabine Trilogy


writer Alfred Bester (1913-1987) Golem 100 and THE STARS MY DESTINATION!!!!!!!!!READ THIS READ THIS READ THIS
writer Poul Anderson (1926-2001)
writer Robert Sheckley (1928-2005)
writer Kate Wilhelm (1928-2018)
writer A.E. Von Vogt (1912-2000) The Word of No A, The Voyage of the Space People, Slan (EXCEPTIONAL!!!!!)


writer Jack Vance (1916-2013) The Dragon Master, To Live Forever, Future Tense, Big Planet, Araminta Station, Cugel's Saga, Vandala of the Void, The Dying Earth
writer Chad Oliver (1928-1993)
writer Philip Jose Farmer (1918-2009) Gods of Riversworld, The Lovers, To Your Scattered Bodies Go


artist P. Craig Russell (1951-)
writer Neil Gaiman (1960-)


writer Alexander Jablokov (1956-)
publishing house Arkhan House, The Breath of Suspension
writer Jason Lutes, Jar of Fools
comic Xombi
writer John Crowley (1942-) Egypt, Love and Sleep


Harlan Ellison's Dream Corridor


writer Robert Block (1917-1994) The Dead Beat, American Gothic, Once Around the Block, The Opener of the Way


writer P.K. Dick (1928-1982) Gather Yourselves Together


writer Bruce Sterling (1954-) The Hacker Crack Down, Islands in the Net, Global Heads, Schitzmatrix, Venutian Ocean, Heavy Weather


writer Clarence Budington Kelland (1881-1964)
movie Last Horizon 1937 (dir. Frank Capra)


actor Jeremy Brett as Sherlock Holmes 1984-1994 ITV "The law is what we live with Inspector. Justice...Is sometimes harder to achieve."


publishing house Charnel House Books LTD., Dean Koontz 'Beast Child', Tim Powers 'Where They Are Hid'

E62 author Williard Motley (1909-1965) Knock Any Door

That Guy
- Tuesday, November 20 2018 18:30:56


Fie on that.

The Cutters
- Sunday, November 18 2018 20:38:53

Let's get a grip.

largo, fl. - Sunday, November 18 2018 16:27:16

Best regards to lovely Susan,hope she has found her smile.
I never knew before tonight Gene Roddenberry wrote 25 Have Gun-Will Travel episodes,won awards as well for them.

- Sunday, November 18 2018 11:8:29

sent by accident. later.

- Sunday, November 18 2018 11:7:20

Leftist constantly tout works of human nature-denying pseudoscience such as Lewontin's NOT IN OUR GENES and even outright fraud such as Gould's THE MISMEASURE OF MAN.

Speak of human nature on any university campus and you run a real risk of physical assault. A woman academic escorting Charles Murray on the campus of Middlebury College when he attempted to give a talk there ended up in the ER when they were attacked by a mob of Leftists. Similar violence has been perpetrated against E.O. Wilson and other scientists.

According to Garrett Hardin, Stalin had all the geneticists at the Medico-Geneticist

Frank Church
- Sunday, November 18 2018 10:33:18

Kenneth, you are a moral beacon. You do know the left accepts human nature. We think it is mostly good.


Bill Maher goes full stupid on Stan Lee:


Trump's minions don't read.

Kenneth Stevens
- Sunday, November 18 2018 1:38:39


Michael Albert is a Leftist of a particular sort. Something about abolishing all markets, I gather, although the specifics don't interest me.

He thinks that if a screenplay of his were filmed, then that would be a big step toward persuading people to remake society in the way that he desires.

But he can't persuade anybody to back his vision, not even in this age of Patreon and GoFundMe.

That must be very frustrating. Perhaps he ought to study the techniques of persuasion, since his inability to persuade others appears to be the main stumbling block. Smart MIT whiz like him ought to have that shit down cold in six months, two years tops.

Of course, the science of persuasion is made possible by a thorough understandig of human nature, which has its roots in how our biological makeup affects our behavior.

But Leftists deny this. They believe that our brains are little more than Silly Putty shaped by our environment. Since they don't even accept the existence of human nature, poor Michael Albert has about as much chance of motivating people as a rocket does of reaching Mars via a flight path determined by means of Ptolemaic calculations.

Michael Albert will die a confused old man, like the poor bastard down the hall from me who keeps yelling "Hey" over and over until the frazzled nurses give hin another shot.

Frank Church
- Saturday, November 17 2018 12:54:15

Michael Albert wants to make a left wing film, but can he in this corporate society:


one of you need to help him out. Josh Olson?


Noam Chomsky on lunacy of AI:



According to a new book by Yohann Hari depression is not caused by brain chemistry but by environmental factors like awful jobs or having no friends or being poor. There are links between freedom and true happiness. Drugs can help, but not always.

A reflective place is important in a turbulent world.


Prayers to the fire victims. Fire does not know rich from poor. Why we need to be one.

Chuck Messer
- Saturday, November 17 2018 7:20:8

The answer: Ellison Wonderland, The Lost Aztec Temple of Mars, is in no danger.


Eatoin Shrdlu
- Friday, November 16 2018 19:2:17

Cmon ...

You know I meant No(t in danger!)

- Friday, November 16 2018 14:13:44

Penultimate sentence should read "been left for dead." Or should that be pinultimate sentence, given the bits of titanium now in my left knee and right ankle? Just as the Catholic Church's Index provided Evelyn Waugh with an excuse not read Sartre, I now have a valid reason not to fly.

- Friday, November 16 2018 14:4:19

Well, WTF, there appear to be two possibilities.

One, even though Harlan has been dead for several months, Eatoin still hates his memory so much that he hopes his house burned down during Jerry Brown's recent efforts to find out what happens when you declare a drought over when it's not really over and then slash 115 million dollars from the forestry fire-fighting budget while also cutting the dead tree-removal and emergency water tank program by 80%. Perhaps he hates Harlan's memory as much as my ancestors who disinterred Cromwell's bones hated Cromwell's memory, or as much as the antifas now toppling Confederate memorials hate the memory of my Southern ancestors (and by extension me, who returns their hatred in equal measure, but I digress).

Two, maybe he just made a typo, then, instead of adding a correction later, he said to himself, "Surely people will see that it was a simple mistake rather than put the worst possible construction on an obviously well-meant post."

This post was brought to you by Oxycodone, the breakfast of champions AND pedestrians who have left for dead. I am in the hands of the Sackler family.

- Friday, November 16 2018 9:11:7

Why on earth would you hope the answer is "No"????

Eatoin Shrdlu For <Marion@razler.net>
Vetville Long Island, Ny - Thursday, November 15 2018 22:47:54

Question: fire zone
For us Eastcoasters who will never be able to find Wonderland without a good cabbie: Is The House safe from the LA region fire?

Hoping the answer is No, but also for a very simple post stating yea or nay,

Kenneth Stevens <stevens.kenneth@gmail.com>
Knoxville, Tennessee - Wednesday, November 14 2018 23:46:48

You could play the radio so that you could hardly hear it
I know this woman who worked her way through medical school as a stripper and is now a neurosurgeon. She tells me that breast implants can be tax-deductible. Also she tells me that the first time she ever read Ballard's THE TERMINAL BEACH AND OTHER STORIES was while backpacking through Thailand, where she found a mildewed copy of it in an abandoned beach shack. It was the most wonderful reading experience of her life, she says, and she can never hope to have another one as good.

Another interesting reading experience is to re-read Hemingway's "The Gambler, the Nun, and the Radio" while lying with two broken legs in a hospital bed after being left for dead by motorist in a hurry to get to the liquor store before closing time. The nurse tells me that the patient down the hall who keeps moaning "Hey" over and over doesn't have long.

Ah, the things you learn.

Steve Barr
Kansas City, Missouri - Wednesday, November 14 2018 11:41:45

United States
Just received my copy of the Rabbit Hole. I had to open my signed copy of 'Repent...' and trace Harlan's signature with my finger tip. I din't know shy.... it just made me feel better.

- Monday, November 12 2018 16:52:46

Douglas Rain 1928 - 2018
Rain had a long and distinguished career in the theater but over here in the States anyway he will forever be identified with That Voice.

"I know I've never completely freed myself from the suspicion that there are some extremely odd things about this mission."

Robert Nason <nightwriterblue82@gmail.com>
Whitestone, NY - Monday, November 12 2018 16:9:6

Stan Lee: one of the two Stans in my life, the other being my father. Both of them sons of Romanian Jewish immigrants, both heroes of my childhood, one of them now fallen. 'Nuff said.

Andrew J. Wilson <ajwpublishing@gmail.com>
Edinburgh, Scotland - Monday, November 12 2018 11:48:27

Stan Lee
R.I.P. Stanley Lieber, 1922-2018. Excelsior!

Jason Davis <ellison.editor@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Thursday, November 8 2018 12:34:9

A new issue of the RABBIT HOLE--#56--is headed to the printer today. If your HERC membership has lapsed, but you want the new issue of the RABBIT HOLE and the 10%-off discount for non-sale items at Susan's Shoppe, renew with all deliberate speed:


Jeff R.
Philly, - Tuesday, November 6 2018 7:12:21

I think Bulger picked up the comment he made at the end of Harlan's anecdote in the punitentary.

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