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Unca Harlan's Art Deco Dining Pavilion

- Sunday, May 12 2013 17:58:56

This is your brain...this is your brain on the internet
Hope no one in Webderland is too distracted to pick up on the message of this article/video. :)


Clipping Service
- Sunday, May 12 2013 16:33:43

Brother Ray
Bradbury joins us from a (corny, but loveable) 1963 documentary.....


David Loftus <dloft59 (at) earthlink.net>
Portland, OR - Sunday, May 12 2013 12:15:12

Loftus checking in

Hey, Gang!

Hope all's going swell for the rest of you. I'm hanging on in Portland. Things have been fairly quiet since the thrilling high-water mark of landing an appearance on an episode of a national TV series, "Grimm," a little over a year ago. I do editing, proofreading, and a little writing for various Web companies to earn maybe 75-80 percent of my income, and the rest comes from acting and modeling jobs: commercial industrial videos, print model shoots, indie short films and videos. I did an industrial safety video for Caterpillar in March, have a print shoot for Adobe coming up in the next two weeks.

Today I have a nice, easy day with nothing pressing to do. Rent on our apartment is going up next month, and to limit the increase, Carole and I decided to vacate one of the storage closets that's held our old junk and eaten up monthly dollars. That means I have to dig in to boxes of books and papers, some of which were water damaged more than three years ago. I wrote an explanation of what happened on my blog a while back:


Along with autographed books and magazines, VHS tapes, and CD cases (I'm hoping the discs are still playable, but I haven't tested them yet; the cover and lyric sheets are a mess, though), is a portion of my Harlan Ellison collection. Fortunately, the most treasured items were safe on four or five shelves in our apartment, most of them behind glass doors.

But some lesser items were in storage -- newer additions, some duplicates, original F&SF/Galaxy publications of the stories -- and some got badly warped and invaded by mold. I'm soberly sorting through them today, deciding which to try to re-sell, which will go to the local library's used book store, and which will simply have to be trashed. I'm actually doing this out on the second-floor courtyard of our apartment complex, because the mold in these boxes of books makes Carole feel ill.

Eventually, I'll try to replace my French-language series of Ellisons published by Les Humanoides Associes. I don't know about the Signet Clarion anthologies from the early 70s, which are a dead loss. And maybe I don't need to replace the Pyramid versions of older books which are stained and stuck together. It's a disheartening exercise.

I've been low on cash and out of action on this site for the last several years, so I know I'm considerably behind on recent Ellison print and audio publications. I think I need to order some stuff fairly soon . . . once I get all my other crap organized and safely stowed again.

Tim Richmond
- Sunday, May 12 2013 6:29:38

Harlan & Susan
I'm on the mend. Sweat through a three hour rehearsal with Quinn yesterday for a big gig on June 9th. He's featured in the new Rolling Stone and will be on Jimmy Fallon June 4. I plan to call Bill this week on the other side of the jazz band rehearsal and Pearly Baker show. I'm back in the fight brother! Talk on Thursday.

The Shadow
- Sunday, May 12 2013 6:2:25

A Good Season for Bibliophiles
This is DEFINITELY a good year, and a good season, for bibliophiles. Along with all the books by Mr. Harlan Jay Ellison
on the horizon --
BRAIN MOVIES Vol. 3 ("Cutter's World", etc.)& BRAIN MOVIES Vol.4
GENTLEMAN JUNKIE and THE DEADLY STREETS (from subterranean press)
we'll also get to read some pretty good books by others:
BLEEDING EDGE by Thomas Pynchon (Sept), which includes the following funny as hell line in its description, "With occasional excursions into the DeepWeb and out to Long Island, Thomas Pynchon, channeling his inner Jewish mother, brings us a historical romance of New York in the early days of the internet"
TATIANA by Martin Cruz Smith (Nov)
THE OCEAN AT THE END OF THE LANE by Neil Gaiman (june)
THE GOLDFINCH by Donna Tartt (Oct)
DR SLEEP by Stephen King (Sept)
and there's even an interesting book out now,
NOS4A2 by Joe Hill (King's son, carrying on the family tradition)


Paul Anderson
Front Royal, Virginia - Sunday, May 12 2013 5:26:22

I could kiss--but won't--you, Steve. You summed it up perfectly. I've been hearing more and more from anti-Lovecraft corners--either because it's getting louder or I'm more sensitive to it in the year since my book, TORN REALITIES, was released.

The fact of that matter is, if we went down the list of the literary giants, we'd find racism, sexism, ageism, sneering elitism, drug addiction, alcoholism, brutality...and so it goes. This follows the same logic (and, as a teacher, I've heard it more than once), that we can't read Mark Twain because he uses racial pejoratives in one of his books.


Paul A

Brian Phillips
McDonough, GA - Sunday, May 12 2013 4:24:2

Nothing to do with Harlan, but BOY, is this funny.
Homage to Dan Brown:


Steve Barber <Barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Saturday, May 11 2013 13:51:4

Lovecraft, et al.

There is a difference, I think, between supporting an artist and appreciating their work WHILE they are being heinous -- Mel Gibson, Charlie Sheen and Lindsay Lohan being poster children -- and appreciating their artistic contribution once they have ascended ( or therwise) to that great hole in the ground (or scattered across the waves, or whatever).

Lovecraft's s dead. Turning one's nose up at his actions in life deprives you of some masterful storytelling. No skin off his back whatsoever, metaphorically speaking.

There is an author who I disagree with vehemently on his politics and this influences my ability to read his work -- but he's alive and so therefore there is an immediate impact to my support.

But dead? Being high handed harms no one but yourself.

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Saturday, May 11 2013 11:35:49

Pay the (Type)Writer
Documentary celebrates the typewriter in the 21st century:


Frank Church
- Saturday, May 11 2013 9:51:42

People should not be worshiped. Lovecraft is not about him, it is about his work--the work is the only thing that matters.

If he drank blood and ate bugs it would not matter, the work dusts angel's wings.

Darkness teaches us that light is around said corner.


One person to ignore is Desmond Morris. The reptile mind is a hoax. We know nothing about human nature. We have those creeps in Cleveland, but we also have the wonderful black dude who helped that girl out.

Hope is not crack, it's air.

Rick Ollerman <rick@ollerman.com>
Littleton, NH - Saturday, May 11 2013 7:7:14

Yes, I killed H. P. Lovecraft. Shame on me.

EU - Saturday, May 11 2013 3:19:52

Web of the City review by John Neal

- Saturday, May 11 2013 0:29:16


"That read like a thought bomb, Rob old man."

I make LOTS of sounds when I'm in the restroom. And I ain't nobody's "old man"!

Steven Barber <Thumbnailtraveler@verizon.net>
- Friday, May 10 2013 21:16:34


Carolyn Kellogg will give you a call Monday. She sent you a package this week which you may already have received.

Janet Gamache
Victoria BC, - Friday, May 10 2013 20:54:55

That which thrives/transcends
for the purpose:

To give voice
to the age

Convey promise
to the future



A blueprint/marvel /
condition of


For all/beyond time

Chris <christopherleethurlow@gmail.com>
Tehachapi, CA - Friday, May 10 2013 20:47:28

A Boy and His Dog
A Boy and His Dog is coming to blu-ray.


- Friday, May 10 2013 18:18:20

Rumors -- decidedly NOT an allusion to Fleetwood Mac
Hey, Rick -- and anyone else -- if you look over the recent page of comments, you'll see that the "rumor" of Lovecraft begins and ends, one would hope, right on this page. Michael Miller posted a link to the Salon article, and then bemoaned the suggestion, by the author of said article, that Lovecraft should be removed from "the American library". What Mr. Miller was referring to was the the literary "canon" as currently recognized -- and so oft-espoused by bloated, middle-aged white men, like Harold Bloom -- in the USA.

Unfortunately, hours later, Rob read that sentence and somehow decided it translated to the Library of America. DJL tried to point out Rob's mistake, but then Shagin cemented with comment.

So the rumor, such as it was -- or is -- was born right here. But it may pick up a life of it's own, now that the publicist of Library of America was contacted.

And interesting -- and easily viewed -- experiment, and example, of how only _one_ misunderstanding, or mis-reading, in this case, can give birth to something that never was, simply by being repeated over and over.

Andrew J. Wilson <ajwpublishing@gmail.com>
Edinburgh, City of Edinburgh - Friday, May 10 2013 15:51:23

A tip of the hat to Unca Harlan?
In the current issue of the _Radio Times_, the BBC's equivalent of "TV Guide", Gwynneth Williams, Controller of Radio 4/Radio 4 Extra, answers readers questions on page 141. When asked about planned literary programming, she says, "A season based around JG Ballard novels called _Dangerous Visions_ is coming in June."

They should do a season on Harlan adn his work. I thought their dramatisation of "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream" was excellent. Unk played AM, of course...


IN other news, anyone in the Pavilion who's interested can read my personal appreciation of Iain (M.) Banks here:


Rick Ollerman <rick@ollerman.com>
Littleton, NH - Friday, May 10 2013 14:52:54

Lovecraft and the LoA
According to the marketing director of the LoA, the rumor of HPL being removed from the list is a pile of bunkum. May as well end that stupid rumor now.

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.om>
Minneapolis, MN - Friday, May 10 2013 14:22:42


That read like a thought bomb, Rob old man.

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Friday, May 10 2013 12:15:18

While I don't care for Lovecraft as a person, I do like some of his writing and he was influential enough on the international literary scene that I feel he belongs in the LoA.


Paul Hull <vaughnrichards@yahoo.com>
ATX, - Friday, May 10 2013 11:56:43


Jimmy~ Your memory serves. THE ARMAGEDDON RAG is an excellent rock-noir novel that does have a hot air balloon passage, and yeah, I can't think of balloons either without that scene popping into my head for a second.
I don't know if I can call a 'favorite' GRRM novel, but his TUF VOYAGING, about "the last honest space trader left in the galaxy" is a blast, funny and smart, and one doesn't even mind a bit o' message tossed in it at the end. Good stuff.

- Friday, May 10 2013 11:35:49

Other than the title questioning whether Lovecraft belongs in the canon, I didn't read anything about Lovecraft being removed from the LOA. Lovecraft did write this “Aside from Poe, I think Algernon Blackwood touches me most closely—& this in spite of the oceans of unrelieved puerility which he so frequently pours forth. I am dogmatic enough to call The Willows the finest weird story I have ever read"

- Friday, May 10 2013 10:9:25

Lovecraft to be removed from the American Library

Another example of why I'm so proud of this country.


The Descent has been MY recent guilty pleasure. It's a pastiche of a hefty list of past horror flicks; but the claustrophobia in those caves is grody to the max! The meat-eatin' visionless dwellers are beautifully disgusting and original.

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
ON THE ROAD soon to be WINDY, - Friday, May 10 2013 4:35:24

That reminds me
Steve -

Your hot air balloon adventure reminds me of a scene from my favorite George R. R. Martin novel, The Armageddon Rag. A book that has a cross country adventure, rock and roll, and supernatural forces. And a hot air balloon in New Mexico. (if my memory is correct)

It so happens, I drove through New Mexico, yesterday. But my eyes were on the road and not above. My companions were/are VOICE FROM THE EDGE cd's, and 2000x tapes. A marvelous time, indeed.

catch you on the flip side


oz - Friday, May 10 2013 1:38:22

PHIL: Doh! Talk about yer brainfarts! My only excuse is some PTS that has cropped up over a recurring rental situation -- if THIS guy sells the property on us -- making it the sixth move in six years, and the fourth full-o-shit-landlord in as many years -- don't be surprised to read about an American in Australia who has gone semi-postal, tracking down a particular landlord and subjecting him to "washboarding" via a toilet and the flush handle.

Thanks for shaking loose the cobwebs!
Still looking forward to more BRAIN MOVIES!
Cheers from Oz,

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Friday, May 10 2013 0:5:38

Alfred Hitchcock Hour


You don't have to wait for Harlan's HITCHCOCK HOUR. It's in BRAIN MOVIES VOL.1 - "Memo From Purgatory". Lookie here:


- Phil

oz - Thursday, May 9 2013 21:23:13

ALL: I'm sure a LOT of you regulars are thrilled about the forthcoming release of BRAIN MOVIES VOLUME THREE (featuring "Cutter's World") and BRAIN MOVIES VOLUME FOUR, which Mr. Davis said will be announced -- and, I believe, ready for order -- next week.

And I'm hopeful that the other titles, in either volume 3 or 4, will include Harlan's 3 scripts written for "Burke's Law", cause I just got the discs which include his episodes for that show. And twice as much fun would be the inclusion of Harlan's script for the "Alfred Hitchcock Hour", 'cause ALL THREE, COMPLETE, SEASONS (!) of that show are being released here in Oz, in the next week or two!

It was fun to read the scripts and then watch the televised versions of Harlan's "Twilight Zone" shows, and I think it'll be interesting to do the same with the above-mentioned, classic TV shows. Still not sure if I should order the "Man From Uncle" DVD discs, mainly because Harlan has mentioned how badly the end product -- the produced TV shows -- turned out. With "Burke's Law" and "The Alfred Hitchcock Hour", I know the end result was better, and that the entirety of the series themselves (much like old TV shows like "Maverick" and "The Rockford Files", etc.) was good even when Ellison wasn't doing the script writing.

In any case: For anyone else in search of the "Alfred Hitchcock Hour" discs, I think you can find them -- issued in various volumes for each season -- via Amazon UK. But if you have a multi-regional DVD player, and you want one or all three of the complete seasons, you can check JB Hifi online, here in oz, and order from them directly (in the U.S., they have only issued "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" on DVD thus far -- a separate show which ran from 1955-62 -- not sure why that is).

Cheers from Oz,

- Thursday, May 9 2013 20:50:46

Essay about Patton Oswalt and violence against women
Interesting read, and the writer makes a good point.


Michael Miller <orgaladh@charter.net>
- Thursday, May 9 2013 18:38:17

Lovecraft & Abe Lincoln
Here's a Salon.com article asking for Lovecraft to be removed from the American Library if you can believe it:


I'm a fan of the Abe Lincoln Vampire film - for a film of it's kind it does an honest job cutting to the rotten heart of racism through the vampire metaphor. (I prefer it over Spielberg's film - but I'm from the Hawthorne and Poe tradition so...). Rufus Sewell gives a thoroughly convincing performance! Great ending, too.

Frank Church
- Thursday, May 9 2013 11:27:31

Don't forget Pride and Prejudice and Zombies.

I'm sure the film is coming.


One of the great films is Re-animator. The film with one of the greatest sex scenes ever--sick, but funny.

Return of the Living Dead is a hoot. Clu Galager, what else do I need to say?

The nude dance scene in the cemetary is to die for.


VOR, the Palestinians are the agrieved, do not forget dat.

Shannon Nutt <shannonnutt@comcast.net>
Pittsburgh, PA - Thursday, May 9 2013 10:8:13

Re: Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter
Read the book by Seth Grahame-Smith, Harlan - it's even smarter/more fun than the movie.

And here I thought I was the only one who liked the film.

Steve Barber <Barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Wednesday, May 8 2013 20:15:32

CAROLYN KELLOGG - HARLAN, I have reached out to Ms Kellogg. Hopefully she will get my notes and give you a shout tomorrow. I'll continue to try to make contact.

Had an amazing ON THE ROAD day yesterday. I "Faced My Fear" and went hot air ballooning over Albuquerque. Today we visited the millennium old Taos Pueblo. Learning to love New Mexico. Will blog about it in the next few weeks, but photographically this is a target rich environment.

- Wednesday, May 8 2013 18:53:49

DJL's geneticists
That school of thought has been around a looooooong time, so the geneticists are only confirming what most well-grounded scientists have believed for some time.

The larger problem is that too many "cousins" - from Israel and Palestine, to the "Bloods" and the "Crips" -- don't want to share the same backyard, or act like civilized, peaceful and compassionate human beings who genuinely care about each other.

More's the pity.

Jeff R.
San Diego, CA - Wednesday, May 8 2013 16:57:37

Maria & Housing Authority my two cents
The director of the Section 8 program at HACLA is a Peter Lynn. (This is city, not county.) I would start with someone in his department, as they are in a firsthand position to assist, but only AFTER somehow confirming that you were indeed on the waiting list for a Section 8 voucher and not a VASH (or some other) voucher. You need to nail that down as it's likely to determine who can/can't help you.

St. Pete, FL - Wednesday, May 8 2013 16:22:59

Maria & Housing Authority
Maria, Let me recommend 3 things to you. I've sat on the board of one of our local housing authorities for 4 years and just recently resigned (nothing nefarious - just that our tea-party governor refuses to name my replacement and my term expired months ago and I have other things to focus upon - but that's neither here nor there). #1 - Find out who the executive director is of the HA and contact the ED as to what happened. If that fails, #2 - Find out when the board's next meeting is and speak at the public forum. If all that fails, #3 - Contact the regional HUD office and speak to the director.

EU - Wednesday, May 8 2013 15:7:4

Have sent Carolyn your message via Facebook.

Hollywood, California - Wednesday, May 8 2013 14:54:29

Chaucer to chimpanzees...
Just went through an equally frustrating and unproductive session trying to get in touch with the L.A. Housing Authority. I've been on either the Section 8 or veterans housing waiting list since 2008 (it's been a while, I forget which one), then got a postcard today saying that I have to reconfirm my interest in being on the list. So I went to said webpage, only to find that the link is useless because the date to reconfirm was YESTERDAY, and as a result of MY failure to contact them in a timely manner, I have been dropped from the list. And to top it off, the list is now closed indefinitely due to the incredible ten-plus year backlog. Gotta love "the system"!

Paul Anderson
Front Royal, Virginia - Wednesday, May 8 2013 14:47:39

Birthday parties and other venues

Tell Susan to fill every bolthole with poison sumac and enjoy yourself, man. As you've told me, it's been a good year, overall--live it up a little.

On other fronts, everything worked out with the publicist and I received the galley pages yesterday (apparently, I'm the only one in the free world who doesn't have a goddam e-reader; had to download special software for it). They. Are. Stunning. I'll keep you updated in any way you'd prefer.



Frank Andrews
Saint Paul, - Wednesday, May 8 2013 14:45:15

Another Possible
The lead character in the recent horror film SINISTER, a true-crime writer played by Ethan Hawke, is named Ellison Oswalt, which put a smile on my face.

- Wednesday, May 8 2013 13:46:16

Geneticists at UC say were all distantly related to each other-the great big _Brotherhood of Man_ is indeed a reality. Unca Harlan is in fact a genuine cousin, although many, many times removed.

- Wednesday, May 8 2013 13:44:59


1. Busy last weekend. Many celebrities visitd. I had a cantaloupe. Neil Gaiman gorged on our lox and bagels. Josh Olson and the Divine Himmel proposed another harebrained scheme to preserve my Immortality.

2. Guilty pleasure. I'd ignored it upon primary release, turned off by the silly title, but Susan and I caught ABRAHAM LINCOLN, VAMPIRE HUNTER on TiVo, and it was quite a nice piece of work. No big stars--Rufus Sewell the only prominent name to me--but historically accurate and plotwise very clever. Glad to've caught it. I do not think you will revile me for recommending it to your passing attention.

3. I'm trying to get in phone connection with a reporter for the LA TIMES name of Carolyn Kellogg, and having some bit of difficulty. She had called me seeking permission to do a piece on the 1982 interview with Studs Terkel, myself, Calvin Trillen, Isac Asimov and Gene Wolfe. We did it for what was then the A&E Channel. She did an online LA Times Book Review piece, with a follow-up column conveying anecdotes from our excellent phone chat. I've tried to reach her--she's Google, FaceBook, Twitter, et al, none of which I'm privy to--and trying to reach her directly at the Times' switchboard is like attempting ing to teach Chaucer to chimpanzees. If anyone can assist my search and get her to call me--she has my number--I thank you in advance.

4. Hi, Jack Skillingstead! How am I? Still sucking air.

5. The amorphous "They" are trying to assemble a 79th Birthday Bash. I am resisting heroically. But I'm running out of boltholes wherein I can hide.

6. Get better, Tim.

7. Good on'ya, Patrice!

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Inabif <goldfadentroupe@gmail.com>
New England - Wednesday, May 8 2013 8:47:50

Happy Birthday to the Invisible Man
Happy Birthday to Mr. E's old pal, Tom Pynchon, who turns 76 today.


May our grandkids one day be able to read the letters swapped between these two geniuses...

Frank Church
- Wednesday, May 8 2013 8:0:47

You guys want to hear an entertaining discussion about just how awful art censorship is, take a listen to this Jello Biafra rant about how he was put on trial for harmful matter--a poster by H.R. Giger:


The religious right are not as powerful as the Mullahs but they are still a poison.

Jack Skillingstead <jskillingstead@yahoo.com>
Seattle, WA - Wednesday, May 8 2013 0:51:51

Four years ago I brought my daughter to Chapman University. You and I were supposed to get together, but that didn't work out, though we did exchange a few jokes on the phone. Amazingly, said daughter is graduating this month. Time speeds by. How the heck are you?

David Loftus <dloft59 (at) earthlink.net>
Portland, OR - Tuesday, May 7 2013 23:4:43

possible "sighting"

Midway through tonight's show of "Grimm," Detective Griffin is going through a short list of artist-victims of the episode's villainess, and mentioned one "Ellis Harlan."

Coincidence? I think not.

jack myers <myersjackallen@gmail.com>
roseville, California - Tuesday, May 7 2013 21:6:40

ray harryhausen
Ray Harryhausen is now fighting evil in another dimension!

Samuel John Klein <samuel.klein@gmail.com>
Portland, Oregon, Republic of Cascadia - Tuesday, May 7 2013 18:5:11

What An Animated Life, Eh?
Ray Harryhausen was 92? WOW! We should all be lucky enough to live that many years and leave behind that sort of a legacy.

Myself, I'm just glad to be able to say that I lived at the same time as he did his greatest stuff.

Stop. Motion. Animated.

The Shadow
- Tuesday, May 7 2013 15:34:53

Sub Press shippings, and other topics
Don't know for sure, but the shipment of which Le got notice could be a Dan Simmons reprint that they are likewise shipping out soon -- if he ordered one -- or it could be the vanilla version of the Ellison, hardcover reprints.

Not a big fan of all things internet, but Google did one of those graphics that brings a smile. It's a tribute to Saul Bass, with Dave Brubeck music playing the background -- a graphic homage to the title sequences he did for "North By Northwest" and other flicks.

Although it didn't get renewed in Norway -- likely because it was extremely intense, because the writing is quite good as well as the acting -- the surviving single season of "Those Who Kill" is well worth checking out. Although one might need a break from it in-between shows, since the subject matter -- serial killers -- and the methods examined can be both creepy and depressing.

St. Pete, FL - Tuesday, May 7 2013 11:43:11

Le, I can tell you it's not the limited edition. I just put my order in yesterday for it and was advised it's at least 8 more weeks for the slip boxes. I missed the free pre-order shipping by one day; isn't it still pre-order if it's not out for another 2 months. Oh well, just looking forward to the end product.

Beautiful Northridge, CA - Tuesday, May 7 2013 11:6:59

Just got an email from Subterranean Press
It said that they had just me a package. Hmmmmm...Wonder what it might be...Heh Heh.



I finally watched EARTHLINGS last night. Unbearably moving, I had to pause it a few times as my eyes became moist with emotion.

And after it was finished, I found myself sitting there sobbing away through the dark hours of the morning....

W. Owen Powell
Bloomington, IN - Tuesday, May 7 2013 10:48:23

Thanks for the monsters, Ray.
Just...go have a look at this.


shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Tuesday, May 7 2013 10:30:15

RIP, Mr. Harryhausen. Thank you for bringing my dreams to life.

I feel a movie night coming on this week. The Sinbad Movies, Jason and the Argonauts, Mighty Joe Young. . .


Frank Church
- Tuesday, May 7 2013 9:4:11

My main problem with the video was that it was too short. I love Harlan but he was a bit snippy to Studs Terkel, who I really respected. Studs tamed the tornado pretty well.

Intelligent interviews on teevee, do tell. Chris Hayes used to do it until MSNBC nuked him. Now he hosts another boring show.

Hope we see a slew of video soon.

I really liked Harlan's takedown of corporate media. I get nuked in the forums for saying the same thing.


Joe Queenan says that Little Big Man is one of the great books. He is right. If you like Western lit.

Jeff R.
Phila., - Tuesday, May 7 2013 7:56:6

Mr. Serling Would Have Approved of My Decision
I tried to smoke a cigarette three times in my life, back in the old high school days. Each time, I thought that my particular cigarette must have been defective. "You mean that they're SUPPOSED to taste like THIS?", I kept asking. "Like dog dung?" I was told that if I stuck with it, I'd get to love the taste, but it just didn't seem worth the effort.

Also, I had no particular desire to die of lung cancer.

James Van Hise <Jimvanhise@aol.com>
Yucca Valley, CA - Monday, May 6 2013 19:13:12

Rod Serling
In 1971 I was living in Miami, Florida and I went to a talk Rod Serling gave there. Serling made a point of telling his audience not to smoke. He held up his cigarette and said, "This is a monkey on my back!" He'd tried to quit countless times without success. He began smoking when he was in the paratoopers in the 1940s where cigarette companies donated free cigarettes to American servicemen. Only too late did he realize that this was to create more addicts. When he died of a heart attack in 1975 he was only 50 years old but doctors discovered that he had the arteries of an 80 year old man.

Kevin Avery
Brooklyn, NY - Monday, May 6 2013 18:7:37

Breaking Bad
I don't know if this has been mentioned here before, but, just in case it hasn't...

I recently discovered the BREAKING BAD "Insider Podcast," wherein, beginning with the second season of the TV series, creator/executive producer Vince Gilligan discusses the genesis of each episode. At the 17:00 mark of the "Insider Podcast" for the second episode of the second season (Episode 202), Gilligan references "that wonderful science fiction writer Harlan Ellison" and SLEEPLESS NIGHTS IN THE PROCRUSTEAN BED:


Joe B.
New York, - Monday, May 6 2013 16:1:46

LA Times, part deux
You're welcome, folks. And here is the follow up piece, in which our esteemed host explained what happened just prior to that interview segment:


Jeff R.
Phila., Pa. - Monday, May 6 2013 13:58:49

A New Book That Deserves a Plug

Some great stories. He must have been the nicest, most loving father in the world. Tragically, his admitted addiction (there's no other word for it!) to cigarettes probably drastically shortened his life. After his death, the family found cigs and matches hidden all over the property! He became another "trophy for the tobacco industry," as Dick Cavett once put it.

Anyway... get the book!

Bernard Schaffer <apiarysociety@gmail.com>
Philadelphia, PA - Monday, May 6 2013 13:56:26

Box o' Ellison
Susan: I received your package today. Looking forward to handing them out at the Comic Con. Thanks again.

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS soon to be WINDY, - Monday, May 6 2013 13:19:16

LA Times
Joe B -

Thanks so much for the link. I did notice, however, that the article concludes with "See the entire video above. Coming soon: We'll hear what Ellison has to say about that day." Does this mean there is a current interview in the offing?

Same bat time, same bat channel.


- Monday, May 6 2013 12:8:47

P.S., speaking of the PIOUS, please pop this in your browser to see my latest at



Jon C. Manzo <Voiceodoom@aol.com>
Middleton, Wisconsin - Monday, May 6 2013 11:15:6

In case any of you aren't on the email list for Subterranean Press, this morning they announced that the trade editions of the above-listed titles are ready for shipping. They also noted the following:

"Important Note: Harlan has art directed the most elaborate foil stamping we've ever attempted for the boxed set of Gentleman Junkie and The Deadly Streets. It's going to be something to behold. "

Okay, Harlan; what have you got in store for those of us wise enough to order the boxed set? On second thought, don't tell me. I'm looking forward to being surprised.

As Ever,
Jon C. Manzo

- Monday, May 6 2013 11:4:55


I'm with you with the pious shit; that's why I'm such a fan of Monty Python's LIFE OF BRIAN!

Nevertheless, on the whole, I consider Ben-Hur a genuinely entertaining epic story. Best scenes to me are Boyd's.

Frank Church
- Monday, May 6 2013 9:20:1

Joe B, I do not know you but today you are my favorite person in the world. I throw my other manmeat towards the shadowy angles to grab dat ass.

Thanks for the video dude.



Ben-Hur, zzzzzzzzzzzz.

My Sister thinks Casablanca is boring. She was adopted. ha.


Howard Kurtz is why I rail against the media:


Also, look at the latest Week Magazine. They make the white Boston bombing suspects look swarthy, with big noses. Typical racism we expect from our islamophobic media.

- Monday, May 6 2013 8:44:32

Ben-Hur, Boyd,corpuscles,Colour Out of Space
The chariot race in Ben-Hur is pretty exciting but unfortunately it's stuck in the middle of a 4 hour pious snoozefest, with Chuck Heston doing his noble but spiritually anguished staring off into space thing while angelic choirs proclaim. If you've never seen it and are expecting a Roman debauch you're going to be very disappointed.

I remember Stephen Boyd best because he got to scrape the deadly white corpuscles off Raquel Welch's ample bosoms in FANTASTIC VOYAGE.

Attention Lovecraft fans, there's a terrific German film adaption of HPL's 'Colour Out of Space' entitled DIE FARBE (The Colour). While it expands the tale in the "frame" story the core of the movie is very faithful to the original. An english subtitiled DVD is available on Amazon.

Joe B.
New York, - Monday, May 6 2013 6:38:43

LA Times Books section
Hey, check it out! LA Times picks up the video of our esteemed host, Asimov, Wolfe, Terkel, and Trillin:


Hollywood, California - Monday, May 6 2013 1:43:30

I've only seen bits and pieces of the film, but it favors into one of my favorite Greg Proops jokes, about the assholes who cut in front of other drivers while going up Crescent Heights in West Hollywood (which goes down to one lane, and they know it). His blatant threat: "I will 'Ben-Hur' your ass into the curb." (In truth, he's got too nice of a car to ever do that, but I do so love the visual.)

Samuel John Klein <samuel.klein@gmail.com>
Portland, Oregon, Republic of Cascadia - Monday, May 6 2013 0:36:24

Stephen Boyd and the Complexity of the Universe
To ROB inre Massala: Actually, I hadn't heard of that either. I have actually never seen Ben-Hur. I realize I'm putting a sort of accidental ignorance on the table here, but I've spent most of my life catching up on absorbing some classics that I should have read/seen, but didn't. Mostly I blame society, but it's partially my fault.

To FRANK CHURCH in re Complexity: I've never bought the argument that just because something is incredibly complicated, it must have been (or probably may have been) designed. Things are complicated because things are complicated. No deity required. I think the only truly defensible position is fideism, actually; just as an overly complex system is its own excuse, faith is its own explanation, and need not appeal to logic for any additional bona fides.

No guru, no method, no teacher, no clue about Ben-Hur.

Frank Church
- Sunday, May 5 2013 11:53:27

Martin Amis on why agnostic makes more sense than atheist:


The universe, he says, is just too complex, maybe there is some intelligence behind it. We know so little about it. There are more questions than answers.

This is something, since this guy was one of Hitchen's best buds.

- Sunday, May 5 2013 11:30:52

I joined a friend last night to watch the cable documentary PROPHETS OF SCIENCE FICTION, which looked at George Lucas (though I feel he was misplaced here), Asimov, and Heinlein.

Harlan, thought I'd mention that the girl I was with said, when you came on to comment on Asimov ("there will never be another Isaac Asimov in the world") "what a handsome man!"

I assured her you were always a pretty boy. You still got it!

Jason Davis
Burbank, - Sunday, May 5 2013 8:26:18

In case you missed it...

That's the cover of BRAIN MOVIES, Volume 3 on the bar betwixt the two writer fellows. Expect it--and volume 4--in the next week or so.

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Sunday, May 5 2013 3:38:24

Floyd Gottfredson
Let's take a moment to remember the legendary Floyd Gottfredson (May 5, 1905 — July 22, 1986) whose Mickey Mouse comic strips set the standard for portrayals of Wald Disney's pint-size hero. I read the first volumes of Gottfredson's earliest Mickey strips (published by Fantagraphics) and, 80 years after they first appeared, these strips remain exciting and laugh-out-loud funny. Classic work by a classic cartoonist.

- Saturday, May 4 2013 23:1:38

Good Viewin' Tonight
Good Viewin' Tonight -- with apologies to Roy Brown -- for anyone in search of something good to watch on DVD players!

"The Expatriate": featuring Aaron Eckhart, it's one hell of an espionage thriller, with well-used elements (the ex-CIA operative caught up in the middle of something; the estranged young daughter; a plot involving private business and government workers) that has enough twists and solid writing to rise way above the usual b-movie grade of this type of flick (the only clunker is a single line, spoken by Eckhart, somewhere after the midpoint of the movie -- no big deal, though).

"Smash: Season 1": I'm not big on musicals, but this show had me wishing I'd learn to tapdance and sing. Good productions and songs, and a good mix of the ongoing musical with the ongoing plot (and drama) involving the various actors, stage hands, etc., etc.

"LillyHammer": Not the greatest show ever made (there are a few many coincidences) but if one takes it as the antithesis of "the Sopranos" -- Norwegian-style -- it can be appreciated as a surprisingly funny show about a gangster who, like Marlene Deitrich, just wants to left alone (sort of).

Michael Miller <orgaladh@charter.net>
- Saturday, May 4 2013 21:28:17

Harper Lee Lawsuit

Don Hilliard <dbhilliard@peak.org>
Bayshore, OR - Saturday, May 4 2013 21:18:20

JAN - In re your first link, kindly refrain in future from posting such, as it's distracting us from far more worthy questions such as "HOO'D WIN: JAR-JAR BINKS OR THEM BLUE GUYS OFF 'AVATAR'".

Thanking you in advance...DBH

Cologne, Germany - Saturday, May 4 2013 13:58:41

Drop everything you're doing
1982: Isaac Asimov, Harlan Ellison, and Gene Wolfe discuss science-fiction writing with Studs Terkel and Calvin Trillin on the Alpha Repertory Television Service (ARTS)

13 famous claims of sci-fi plagiarism (and how they all played out)

Josh on Speed Racer - trailersfromhell.com/trailers/1030
Josh on The Indian Runner - trailersfromhell.com/trailers/1031
Josh on Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call: New Orleans - trailersfromhell.com/trailers/1032

A Spanish web article about A Boy and His Dog book/film/graphic novel
Look at that Spanish book cover! - Misleading?

Harlan mention on Clifford Meth's blog

- Saturday, May 4 2013 12:59:54


I take it you mean you never heard Boyd's name back in those days. But I KNOW you'd heard of MESSALA!

Anyway, my advantage over yours in those days is dvd and cable. I came to know Boyd's stuff a LOT because of that tech and because I've examined many films from all eras. If I'd been around in "your" day I probably would have known less about him than YOU did!

Where THE OSCAR is concerned, for all the respect I'd gained for Boyd in earlier films, I would have eaten it up had Peter Falk starred. Falk was among the greatest caliber.

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS soon to be WINDY, - Saturday, May 4 2013 10:29:38


Have a great trip. I met you and your lovely wife at Worldcon last year. I hope we cross paths again someday.



Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Saturday, May 4 2013 10:1:40

Hey Frank, Glendale is nice, Glendale is fine, but it ain't ritzy. Sure, there are some mansions on top of the hills, but we ended up here because it was the only town near Hollywood that we could afford to live in -- Santa Monica, West LA, Sherman Oaks, Pacific Palisades were all out of our price range.

So, no, we aren't rolling in dough. I'm a yeoman production worker in the TV industry and my wife writes books. But this isn't Beverly Hills, my boy.

And now we're leaving for that European tour (which we're not paying for).

Frank Church
- Saturday, May 4 2013 9:37:48

Dennis seems real calm about it. He must be far away from the fire. I will say Glendale is a beautiful place. Our Dennis must be in the money. Yes, I'm envious.


Harper Lee, write something else.

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Saturday, May 4 2013 8:27:47

Pay the Writer, chapter 12: Harper Lee

It seems Harper Lee is suing her current agent for duping her out of income for her masterpiece TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD:


Assuming the allegations are correct, I say, "Go Harper!"

Iain Aitken <reddragon70@aol.com>
Dumfries, Scotland - Saturday, May 4 2013 5:50:43

Glasgow Central Station
I found a rather wonderful website, whilst trying to find a really old photo for a friends of Glasgow Central bridge in the 1940's.

It has photos of Glasgow Central Station from various eras and view points. Quite fascinating in many ways, well it is to me because I have worked there or lines going to there for 22 years now. I thought it may be of some small interest, after all it was in The Central Hotel, the lovely railway hotel adjoining the station, that Unca Harlan met the lovely Susan.


Hope you enjoy the pictures


Samuel John Klein <samuel.klein@gmail.com>
Portland, Oregon, Republic of Cascadia - Friday, May 3 2013 22:13:40

Rob INRE: Stephen Boyd
To be completely cards-on-the-table honest with you, I haven't assayed very much of Boyd's work. Despite my contemporality of early-life existence with the height of his fame, I was incredibly unaware of him UNTIL I'd heard of "The Oscar".

I have since learnt that he was apparently an A Lister (or an A- Lister at least) but have not yet seen any of his other stuff. *My* impression of his performance during that movie was he just had this one note and hit it pretty hard, but that's just my opinion, and I'll own that.

Don't B Flat, and dont' B Sharp, just B Natural.

oz - Friday, May 3 2013 19:30:20

Happy HARLAN Month -- and next year...
HARLAN: I know I'm waaaaaaaaaay early (just over three weeks worth of early) but with my kiddo's special day comin' up in a couple of weeks, plus work and life in general being distractions, and my absolutely absent sense of date and time (plus displacement on the other side of the world) being factored in, I decided to wish you a very Merry Un-Birthday in advance (while I'm thinkin' about it).

Happy Merry!

And next year, about this time, we can ALL look forward to waxing poetic about EIGHTY YEARS OF ELLISON! (T-shirts should be made in advance -- listening Susan?)

All best wishes to you and Susie-Q, from the lower reaches of Oz,

Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Friday, May 3 2013 16:19:12

Thanks for the shout-out!
We're OK -- the fire is a mile or so east of us, but we were worried. Seems to be all right now.

And yes, we will go to the Gaudi Cathedral!

Hope our house is still here when we return...

- Friday, May 3 2013 16:14:15


Yes, o my heavens yes a million times over...The Gaudi Cathedral in BarTHelona!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you see nothing else in this life. Gaudi sits in Heaven next to God's Throne, which Gaudi designed.

News says the Glendale fire is between two canyons and they may be herding it into control.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

- Friday, May 3 2013 15:58:58


Hey, Kiddo:

Just turned on the news: "Out of control wildfire burning in Glendale!" Are you safe...do you need anything...is this a Loch Ness sighting and Ellisonian hysteria?

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Steve Barber <thumbnailtraveler@verizon.net>
- Friday, May 3 2013 15:34:32

DENNIS - Congratulations on the book tour and trip!

Barcelona is one city I have not yet made it to, but I have it on good authority that you must/must/must see La Sagrada Familia, which is a cathedral designed by Gaudi.

Our friends at Lonely Planet describe it thusly: "If you have time for only one sightseeing outing, this should be it. La Sagrada Família inspires awe by its sheer verticality, and in the manner of the medieval cathedrals it emulates, it’s still under construction after more than 100 years. When completed, the highest tower will be more than half as high again as those that stand today."

Have a wonderful time.

The chicksinger and I are also on the road starting this weekend. Stops include Santa Fe, the Grand Canyon, Monument Valley and -- despite my better judgment and a deep, abiding fear of heights -- a hot air balloon ride in Albuquerque.

I will be Twitting highlights of the trip. Provided I am not institutionalized by the experience. (Or maybe that would make it better...)

My two blogs are doing quite well in the visitation department. For some odd reason I have a very high readership in Russia. Is my English so bad it becomes Cyrillic at some point???



Harlan's new books and the participation of several Webderlanders have fueled a few very good conversations over at the Harlan Ellison Page on Facebook. If you're not already a member but would like to be, I'm certain they'd love to have your voices in the mix.

- Friday, May 3 2013 15:28:10

Samuel Klein,

Excellent opinion piece. Very disappointing to hear Stephen Boyd appearing "manniquin-like". I came to appreciate his skills in earlier films, particularly the one I mentioned below (not to mention Messala!). I also read about him recently; he was absolutely passionate about his craft, often opting for artistic films over better box-office potential.

If you're discription of Boyd's performance is accurate, perhaps it demonstrated some of the actor's limitations. I myself hadn't seen ANY limitations in the performances he demonstrated to me.

I am mainly interested in checking out THE OSCAR to get a sense of how Harlan's script was messed with. It's a recurring history throught Harlan's career - either fucking around with his writing or letting great projects (like I, ROBOT) fall through the cracks. Very, VERY frustrating!


The other day, I briefly revisited MEMOS FROM PERGATORY and took the opportunity to Google the setting of the Red Hook section of Brooklyn where the "adventure" took place in 1954. I mentally removed the modern changes as best I could to breath in a sense of that period. That nightmare of the Rumbles in an era before I was born.

I played with the question, "I wonder if any members of those gangs are still alive? What kind of old farts would they be now if I met one?" Of course, I sincerely doubt they're around.

Maybe a more compelling question is if, during their lifetime, any of those former gang members learned of and appreciated Harlan's chronicles (both in books and the Hitchcock Hour!) of their rumbles in the streets.

Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Friday, May 3 2013 14:5:51

Europe Tour
Hi Everyone:
We are leaving tomorrow for my wife's (Lissa Price) European book tour. Most of it will be rushing around, catching planes and running to appearances.
But we will have a little time to kill in Barcelona, so does anyone have any suggestions of sights we should not miss?

Wish us luck. We still don't have all the interconnecting flight or hotel info. And did I say we leave tomorrow?
This may be more of an adventure than we'd like.

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS soon to be WINDY, - Friday, May 3 2013 12:11:41

The Oscar
It is my sincere hope that Harlan Ellison may some day feel well enough and so inclined to give another Josh Olson Cinefamily evening based around this infamous work. Mr Olson had hinted at his intention for such an evening at the conclusion of the last one (year and a half ago?). Now, where would an appropriate place to meet to eat be for such an evening? Musso and Frank too far?


Tom Morgan
Silverado, CA - Friday, May 3 2013 12:10:41

Where there's smoke

Here's hoping you and Susan have clean air to breathe up there.

Clipping Service
- Friday, May 3 2013 5:48:17

A Not-So-Agonizing
reappraisal of "The Oscar". Not a recent article, but, ever so timely.


You do not judge it.

It judges YOU.

Samuel John Klein <samuel.klein@gmail.com>
Portland, Oregon, Republic of Cascadia - Thursday, May 2 2013 19:40:12

Dying is easy; it's screenwriting that's hard
You know, I've seen That Movie Named For A Certain Statuette; it's not a great movie, true, but it hardly deserves the opprobrium it's gotten. In a way, it's kind of become an art statement in and of itself, as such oddities are wont to do, or maybe, as some reviewers might hold, time tends to heal all wounds.

In a world where such examples of cinema as "Spice World" are composed and distributed, that T.O. gets on 'worst film' lists constantly seems, indeed, rather unfair. There's an intrigue to this singular thing that goes from WTF to 'wow, the sort of world that this COULD have gotten made in … what was it like?'.

Gaiman himself made what I thought was a cogent statement about it when he said that it's a film is the kind of film "where enough little things go wrong to produce a film in which something huge goes strangely right — but in a way that nobody who set out to make the film could ever have wanted." I went into the film with that little lamp to guide me and found myself enjoying it more than I expected.

There are other things that appeal. When that movie came out, it was when I was a but a neat thing, and it was the kind of movie my parents took us to and bored me with on the TV at home, and nostalgia has turned its production attributes … lush colors, 60s styles, equally lush writing … into comforts. The textures of the movie and its colors enveloped me like a quilt I used to love to sleep under as a kid, and there was the same giddy feeling of atmosphere that I had when opened the first of a myriad of AMT USS Enterprise polystyrene kits I was destined to destroy.

But I did find myself entertained by the movie. I wonder how it would have gone if two other screenwriter's hadn't 'improved' Harlan's script. When it finally debuted, it must have seemed so meta-referential to Hollywood it could have been seen as nothing BUT excess, and to be honest, the casting was odd; I found Stephen Boyd to be mannequin-like; what has been assayed about Tony Bennett's performance is dead on; Berle was great in it, but wasted somehow; and Peter Lawford, while earnest in his supporting role, was awkward somehow.

It's not the greatest film ever made, but it ain't THAT bad. I've seen worse.


- Thursday, May 2 2013 18:2:33


Never saw the 1966 movie. Just did some quick-find research and discovered this was from a novel by Richard Sale. I know his name from one of my favorite "small" films, Tyrone Power's British vehicle SEVEN WAVES AWAY, in the states aka ABANDON SHIP - written and directed by Sale.

The casting in THE OSCAR aside, I'd like to watch the film sometime to see just what went wrong. No one loves Falk better than I do, but Stephen Boyd was a good actor and I couldn't accept that all the damage to the material came from casting decisions. I'll view sometime.

Steve Perry <perry1966@comcast.net>
Beaverton, OR - Thursday, May 2 2013 15:57:41

The Other Side
A note in passing, as it were, on passing ...

When one reaches a certain age, one often looks up and notices that a number of one's contemporaries are leaving the building.

One cannot help but consider this phenomenon somewhat more closely as one's own ending draws nigh. Especially when those who are checking out are, likely as not, younger than one. You think, Jesus, he's ten years younger than I am! Whoa ...

Which is not to say that our culture doesn't have a terrible relationship to old age, the infirm, and death itself, 'cause it surely does; still, acknowledging that those we knew and maybe liked, if not loved, have departed is a normal thing. And as you get older, I expect your attitude about it will undergo something of a shift. When the road ahead is shorter than the one behind, it does make you think.


John E. Williams <jwilliams76@verizon.net>
Arlington, VA - Thursday, May 2 2013 15:52:48

Tony, I love those Facebook remembrances, and in fact I need them because it is all too easy to forget those names and faces and wonderful work. Thanks.

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Thursday, May 2 2013 14:7:35

Dream Corridor
Thanks, Harlan. As I've told you and others, working with you on "Opposites Attract" was one of the genuine delights of my comics career. You were and are a terrific editor and the results were everything I could have wanted.

- Thursday, May 2 2013 13:3:52


As I did with you, I worked with Doug on HARLAN ELLISON'S DREAM CORRIDOR (which I maintain was an extended series of comics as good as the best ever turned out). He was a man as charming as a plum pudding, and an artist nonpareil. Remembering him is not hard, I do it all the time; and your post was most welcome, as are you. All the time.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Thursday, May 2 2013 12:11:6

Jimmy, re: Uncle Daddy

Jimmy, I am so pleased you got to David Gerrold's play. I realised when I posted the link that the final performance was only hours in the future. Lucky for you to live (just!) within commuting distance.

The comments I have read on the play make it sound as if it has a future beyond those two performances, so I hope more of us get to see it in the future. Somebody should whisper "Edinburgh Festival" in David's ear!

- Phil

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS soon to be WINDY, - Thursday, May 2 2013 11:59:27

My very best thank you's to Phil Nichols and Matthew Tepper. Because of you, I am happy to say I did make it to the last performance of UNCLE DADDY WILL NOT BE INVITED last night. I am also thankful for something of a commuter miracle in that I made it from the Sony Lot to CSUN on the 405 in less than an hour (35mins)!

As has been noted by Duane and Le, the play was funny, intense, thought provoking and very moving. Yes, it does make you care.

Congratulations to David Gerrold. I hope he is able to find other venues to showcase this work (and possilby in expanded form). And I look forward to future plays and films from him (see earlier post elsewhere on the board about STAR WOLF). And some books would be nice too. This work was unlike anything I've read of his before. And that is a credit to him as well.

So glad I was able to make it. Thank you webderland!



Frank Church
- Thursday, May 2 2013 10:2:38

I complain about the media all the time, but we have a marvelous news site from Boston called globalpost.com which is really good. It's most recent report says Syria is not using chemical weapons, unlike what our flaks and stupid Israel say.

Good reporting can be found.


Commodious, clean the latrine Son!

R. Commodious Bowels
- Thursday, May 2 2013 8:43:17

It doesn't get better than this folks; Never in a million years!


JOE WEHRLE, JR. <wehrle1@verizon.net>
Punxsutawney, PA - Thursday, May 2 2013 8:15:16

Tony: Something that really sold me on Doug Wildey was the wonderful run of Gold Key TARZAN he drew, from #179-#187, adapting four Edgar Rice Burroughs novels, starting with TARZAN AT THE EARTH'S CORE. I have all these in near mint condition and cherish them. He employed a more cinematic approach here than had been needed for Jonny Quest, and his inking was superlative!

Dave Clarke
- Thursday, May 2 2013 7:38:0

Speaking of words, how about cerulean? The word is most often used to describe the color of the sky or the sea. It’s a beautiful word for beautiful scenes.

And speaking of beautiful, I encourage everyone to read “The Missolonghi Manuscript” by Frederick Prokosch. While reading it, you may get the feeling that it should not have been humanly possible for someone to write that well. But there it is.

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Thursday, May 2 2013 5:22:42

Remembering Doug Wildey
One of the things I do on my Facebook page is to remember and celebrate comics creators who've brought joy to me.

Here is something I posted today and, if Unca Harlan approves, I'll happily share future posts here as well...

We take a moment to remember Doug Wildey (May 2, 1922 - October 5, 1994), a terrific artist and storyteller. I can't recall where I first saw Wildey's art, but I do remember being knocked for a loop when I learned that the same guy whose work I liked so much in comic books also created and designed Jonny Quest, one of my all-time favorite animated shows. His western comics ranked with the best, but he also thrilled with his work on war, science fiction, and horror comics...and a handful of unforgettable Jonny Quest comic books. I never had the pleasure of meeting Wildey, but I thank him for all the delight he brought me over the years.

Beautiful Northridge, CA - Wednesday, May 1 2013 23:38:49

OFF TOPIC: Find Your Understanding

I did go see David Gerrold's play UNCLE DADDY WILL NOT BE INVITED tonight and had a great time. The writing was sharp and witty, and I am sorry I did not jot some of these damn-funny lines down--I was too absorbed in the play. I thought the two actors did an wonderful job, and there were some genuinely moving moments. Not knowing anything about the play going in, I thought Jamie was not accepted by his family because he was gay...But it turned out to be for another reason (and this is hinted in the plays title).

Gay or straight, I'm not sure marriage and lifetime commitment/monogamy is in the cards for a lot of people these days. But it's still beautiful to see two people taking that big step.

Below is a very moving, award-winning 3-minute documentary film called "Find Your Understanding" about a father coming to terms with and accepting of his daughter marrying another woman. It is directed by Eliot Rausch, who also directed and filmed the award-winning and heartbreaking 6-minute film called "Last Minutes with ODEN" ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOAcRKZxjy4 ), which I have posted a link to here before.

What I love so much about "Find Your Understanding" is Eliot Rausch's ability to combine video footage, music, and the father's voice-over into a lovely statement on acceptance and fatherly love and most importantly, universal love. The father in the film has since died, so this film is also a wonderful tribute to him.

"Find Your Understanding":


Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Wednesday, May 1 2013 21:34:32

Mediabistro (a very big deal of a site, by the way) mentions the upcoming graphic novel and quotes our host:


Samuel John Klein <samuel.klein@gmail.com>
Portland, Oregon, Republic of Cascadia - Wednesday, May 1 2013 21:10:10

Word of the day.
I love the word condign.

I couldn't completely respect any author of anything … book, note, grocery list, what-have-you … that didn't make me go to the dictionary every now and again.

This is a sincere statement.

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Wednesday, May 1 2013 20:19:31

Death Notices
Harlan –

If you are cool with this phenomenon then of course I will accept it. Of course.

I can barely claim you as an acquaintance, as our conversations can be counted as minutes on two separate hands. During those special moments it became clear to me that you are a singularly sensitive and compassionate man. Your treatment of me in your Pavilion House was unprecedented in my experience. No one has ever given me that amount of compassion and forgiveness for the crap that I’m capable of dishing out.

And that’s on a personal level.

Your inspiration to me as a writer is even more significant. You were the spark for me, Chief.

I have a struggle with depression and one of the things that I have been taught to fight this malady is to avoid engaging myself in the things that upset me.

I feel, as many here do, a compulsion to protect you. It felt to me that many in their desire to get your attention and drum up a response from you personally are serving up these death notices, which include anyone that has had any possible connection to any form of media or entertainment.

And this seems to me to be a cheap shot towards your emotions and sensitivity.

But I’m wrong about that and I regret any tension that I may have created here. I guess I’m turning into a testy old bastard! I apologize to the group for the profanity that I used in my initial post.



shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Wednesday, May 1 2013 19:12:5

Ellison Sightings
Feeling very icky of late, and my mother-in-law picked up an unopened copy of RUN FOR THE STARS (read by the author with an all new afterword) to encourage a smile.

A friend just posted a link to a 1981 article about woman and science fiction from the New York Times with a quote from our esteemed host in the first paragraph. Sadly, the article is still relevant today.



Mark Haden Frazer <kiyote76@yahoo.com>
Phoenix, AZ - Wednesday, May 1 2013 18:53:41

While I understand Tim Raven’s frustration at what seems like a steady stream of death notices in this forum, understand that many people who like & enjoy Harlan’s work are now at a chronological age where they recall & remember hundreds (if not thousands) of human beings who have made the world a much sadder place by their leaving of it.

I’m barely past the half-century mark myself – but I now live in a world without Ray Bradbury, Kurt Vonnegut, Avram Davidson, R.A.Lafferty, Robert Sheckley, Theodore Sturgeon, Robert F Jones, Robert Anton Wilson, Jorge Luis Borges, Steve Gerber, Jean Shepherd, Peter Bergman, Graham Chapman, Gilda Radner, George Carlin, Jonathan Winters, Jack Kirby, John Lennon, George Harrison, Ian Curtis, Frank Zappa, Roy Orbison, Richie Havens, Roger Ebert, Paul Harvey, Maurice Sendak & Fred Rogers – not to mention both of my parents & a number of close friends - and this brief list is just off the top of my head.

The point being this: Live long enough & mortality will randomly perform the fish-slapping dance for you on an ever-increasing schedule. And there ain’t one god-damned thing you can do about it, either – except to pause, remember & acknowledge those who have made a serious difference in your life.

Grant us this one indulgence, if you will. It is a small, perhaps inconsequential thing at best. But then again, the breaking of one’s heart is often a quiet affair.

Chuck Messer
- Wednesday, May 1 2013 17:17:20

"On this date 10 years ago, Bush strutted around a "Mission Accomplished" banner in a costume. Today is Asshole Halloween."

~ Frank Conniff A.K.A. TV's Frank

I'm not a twitter guy myself, but Mr. Conniff certainly shows how it should be done.


- Wednesday, May 1 2013 16:35:13



I cannot abide television, don't listen to the news much these days--it's so intent on making me more misanthropic than previously--and so without the "gazette" of my friends here at Webderland informing me of the passing of longtime friends such as Andy Offutt, it might slip past me unnoticed. I'm by no means a hermit, but being as pathologically AU COURANT as has been my wont for a lifetime is less pressing these days. There is no joy in any of it, to be sure, Tim, but it is a neighborly informational service I value. Please try to be condign with it.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Wrigley Field, PA - Wednesday, May 1 2013 15:51:39

A Boy And His Atom
apologies if this has been posted before:


Michael Miller <orgaladh@charter.net>
- Wednesday, May 1 2013 14:35:53

Santa Claus Vs. S.P.I.D.E.R.
I happened across a near mint condition Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction January 1969 issue with the story Santa Claus Vs. S.P.I.D.E.R. Great cover art by Gahan Wilson! On the back is a sort bio of Mr. Ellison, the type you never read anymore these days:

"And writers with imagination appear regularly in F&SF. Harlan Ellison, according to Cosmopolitan is one of the six most eligible young bachelors in Hollywood." (And the other five?)

I'm now the proud owner of the issue and I've never read the novelet so I cannot wait to read it this evening.

Was it Joseph W. Ferman or Judith Merril who bought the story?


The Shadow
- Wednesday, May 1 2013 14:29:20

Schooling Tim Raven
I'm not a close friend of Tim Raven's, by any means, but what those schooling him about life, death, and everything in-between, are missing is this: humans have been more than a bit obsessed with death since figuring out life comes to an end.

But 20th and 21st century humans often take that obsession to new heights, making pilgrimages to the home of Elvis Presley on the date of his death, rather than his birth, going on and on about the assassination of a particular president rather than the few years he spent being a remarkable leader, or the death of a certain blonde bombshell, and on and on.

Yeah, death is part of life.
But unlike other sentient animals on this planet, we humans too often tend to caterwaul for far too long, sometimes even seeming to revel in our own mourning for so long that it becomes a lifestyle.

And what Tim Raven seemed to be saying, I think, was something along those lines.

The passing of a beloved family member, a close friend, or even a friend who briefly touched our lives, certainly needs to be acknowledged. But when the litany goes on and on and on and on, death can come to seem so important it overshadows life. Yes, death is a natural and expected end to life, but since the days spent living outnumber those spent dying, perhaps we should try to spend more time commemorating life rather than death.

What Tim Raven was saying, I think, was that the litany of death, which many of us have been guilty of too often repeating, seems to have become FAR too prevalent on this forum of late.

And since Mr. Ellison is further along past what Dante called the Midway point in life than even I am -- approximately 45 years, I would call it -- so Harlan Ellison certainly doesn't need to be constantly pilloried with reminders about mortality (Someone will telephone him with news about the passing of loved ones and friends, so it need not be logged herein every time, and certainly not with such immediacy, since the condition is permanent, and not likely to change).

That may be a bit more wordy than aspiring poet Tim Raven would have rendered it, but I think that is what he was getting at. In other words, why not focus -- at least herein -- a little more on things that make life an enjoyable ride, things that can LIFT the spirits rather than constantly bringing them down?

Unless you're a mortician, constant ruminations and reminders of death -- the end of the journey for us all -- is no way to live.

- Wednesday, May 1 2013 14:10:16

I have to make a correction:

In my last post I stated that Charles Beaumont co-scripted BURN, WITCH, BURN "nominally due to his illness".

Apparently, I am mistaken. According to Matheson in an interview I just looked up, the two divided up the writing with Beaumont doing the second half.

I thought Beaumont's condition had rendered him unable to write during the 1950's. A terrific writer, people like Matheson and Jerry Sohl had been ghostwriting for him. Now I'm not sure what the tragic timeline was for his illness. I remain a stalwart fan.

- Wednesday, May 1 2013 13:19:45

Tim Raven
You aren't that new. And if you wonder why various, um, passings are considered of interest here, perhaps you should re-read the intro to _Angry_ _Candy_, complete with a "necrology" in the margins.

That said, perhaps this is a bad time to mention Deanna Durbin...

Brad Haupt <hauptbp@yahoo.com>
Milwaukee, WI - Wednesday, May 1 2013 12:30:13

Andrew Offutt
Hi, Andrew Offutt wrote the absolutely wonderful story "For Value Received" which appeared in Again, Dangerous Visions, and was, in my opinion, one of the finest stories in the collection.

It's a shame I never got around to reading any of his other works, but that's something that I will need to amend.

Hoping that Harlan's back is healing swiftly, and that he treats his better than I treat mine,



Alex Krislov <Alexkrislov@cs.com>
- Wednesday, May 1 2013 12:21:42

Not a death competition
I'm not here very regularly these days. My time is much more limited than it used to be, alas. But I thought it worthwhile to say something about this.

I can understand the reason for the question, but, no, there isn't a competition to be the first to report sad tidings. What a newcomer might miss is that this is a community. Many of us know Harlan and Susan. Some of us have known Harlan, at least, for several decades. And we share many friends.

Andy Offutt's not just a guy who wrote. He's a guy who was very much part of the larger community of writers and fans. He appeared in one of the "Dangerous Visions" anthologies (with a great yarn about a hospital holding a child hostage to her parents' bill). I can promise you that Harlan knew Andy.

And folks here want to know when this sort of thing happens, because it really is a community affair.

And that's really all there is to it.

James Levy <susjpl@hofstra.edu>
Syosset, Neew York - Wednesday, May 1 2013 11:26:49

To Mr. Raven

I think the reporting has to do with caring. Many people around here care deeply about certain artists, writers, performers, people we may not have met, but who have touched our lives in meaningful ways. When they go, it hurts. And when they go, and you've got nobody around you who knows what you're talking about, or cares that these certain people have passed, well, you need to tell somebody. And so you report these things here.

Harlan once said that he'd like this to be on his tombstone: "For a while I was here, and for a while, I mattered." Well, when a Webderlander reports that someone is gone, it's because they want that death to matter. Nothing morbid in that, just basic decency.

- Wednesday, May 1 2013 11:10:56

... and it was a pleasure meeting Josh Olson and Nichelle Nichols!

Los Angeles, - Wednesday, May 1 2013 11:8:26

Saw David Gerrold's play UNCLE DADDY WILL NOT BE INVITED last night. It was wonderful. There is one more performance at CSUN tonight, and if you are anywhere near the LA area, I highly recommend seeing it.

I introduced myself to David last night afterwards, and I found myself saying something that totally took me by surprise. What I said was "It made me care."

As I was driving home, I thought to myself "What did you mean by that?" The answer is something that was brought up in the Q&A. It is one thing to be in favor of, and to openly advocate, marriage equality. The logic of it is an easy exercise. But the real, more complete answer is something we gain from relationships regardless of who we are married to: We all need that 'safe place,' that one person...

See, even now I'm losing the words, and perhaps that's the point. There is that one person, a wife or husband, who gives to you something no one else can. In the play, that relationship went one way between the two characters. As the play progresses, both learn how to make that connection a shared one.

And that's what we're ALL looking for, gay or straight.

And the ending... was perfect.

See it.

Frank Church
- Wednesday, May 1 2013 8:3:27

Raven, I will make sure everybody stops dying to help you avoid this reality.

Death is our shadow, death is our house guest. Deodorization cannot be had. Rule of the universe my poetic friend.


In Michigan they think the Diary of Anne Frank is too "pornographic." God, my head:


I think the Nazi's killing Frank is a bit more offensive, I'd guess.



Alex, come to the forums. That's where the fur flies.

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Wednesday, May 1 2013 1:22:28

David Gerrold's Play


David Gerrold's play:


(I hope this link works - it's from Facebook, but I don't think you need to be on Facebook for the link to work.)

- Phil

Mark Barsotti <markbeach60@yahoo.com>
San Diego, CA - Tuesday, April 30 2013 21:51:21

Getting caught up on the old Pavilion, I noticed you mentioned in two posts a "lost" email meant for me. Dying to know the content thereof (perhaps "Simpsons" related?) and it's nice to know I occasionally blip across your radar screen. Hope you're finally feeling better.

Also wanted to offer kudos to Adam-Troy Castro on his recent book publication and the good reviews. A friend who used to be in a workshop with you, David Parrish-Whittaker, also sends congrats.

Best to Susan and all my fellow dinners.


jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS soon to be WINDY, - Tuesday, April 30 2013 21:48:50

David Gerrold has a PLAY???

Thank you for your response. It's seems to me you did good, kid.

But what is this about David Gerrold's play? Can I go?


Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Tuesday, April 30 2013 18:53:38

More Death!!!

I'll admit that I'm kinda new in this forum, but why this obsession with rushing to report death? Is it a competition?

I'm trying to put into words the feeling that I get when I see yet another death notice here. I can't vocalize it.

I'll keep trying, perhaps someday I'll be able to explain the giant pressure in my head when I read yet another obituary.

Jesus Fucking Christ!

Tim Raven

Matthew B. Tepper <oy@earthlink.net>
Van Nuys, CA - Tuesday, April 30 2013 18:48:27

Replies and thanks
Duane: Thanks! Obviously I didn't turn out to be "the new Harlan," but that didn't prevent me from being the only Matthew B. Tepper, whatever that is.

jimmy: I can't say how that encounter may have changed my life, as I do not have access to the alternate time line where I didn't. But certainly it reinforced my feelings of belonging and fellowship with pros and fans. Not all of my encounters were so pleasant; Mr. Heinlein found me rude, and told me so, and I have no doubt he was right. Fritz Leiber I met while a schoolchild, and for a while I even ran errands for his invalid wife Jonquil, schlepping books to and from the library and collecting her mail. Fritz himself was also kind and indulgent of the prodigal me. John Brunner was an especially good friend, and I'm sad to say that the last time I saw him was at the 1995 Worldcon, and we agreed to get together for drinks later on in the con; but he died the very next day. I still hang out with writers, by preference, and some of them even like hanging out with me. One of my best buds these days, John DeChancie, suggested I post my remembrance and question to Harlan here. Hey, John.

Harlan: Thanks for the confirmation. I'm doing fine, fixing the computers of rabbis who fight anti-Semitism, helping my fiancée raise her teenaged son, and generally enjoying life. We're leaving now to catch the first night of David Gerrold's new play. Later.

Reece Morehead <reecejbm@gmail.com>
Nashville, TN - Tuesday, April 30 2013 17:20:35

Andy Offutt obit
Sorry to be the bearer of sad news; I just found out about if a few minutes ago: Author andrew j. offutt (b.1934) died on April 30. Many of his early works were fantasies in the Robert E. Howard style, including the Cormac mac Art series, the War of the Gods on Earth trilogy, and the War of the Wizards trilogy. He also created the character Hanse Shadowspawn for the Thieves’ World shared universe and wrote three novels about the character. In addition to writing Conan novels, he also wrote numerous science fiction novels under his own name and the house name John Cleve and edited the Swords Against Darkness anthology series. He served two terms as President of SFWA. His son is author Christopher Offutt.

Los Angeles, - Tuesday, April 30 2013 16:11:30

Matt Tepper:

Thanks for sharing that!! I remember reading about your encounter with Harlan and Isaac, and I've always wondered what became of it. Nice to know it turned out so well!

- Tuesday, April 30 2013 15:52:21


"McGyvering" it is...

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.om>
Minneapolis, MN - Tuesday, April 30 2013 14:43:10

Burning generalities

I am just into the second episode of BURN NOTICE. Jolly good McGivering here. Lots of good fun helps one ignore those niggling little technical inconsistencies.

Guilty pleasure, this one.
BURN, WITCH, BURN is streaming on Netflix as well, folks. That book scared me when I read it as a fully growed-up man.

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Tuesday, April 30 2013 14:24:12

David Gerrold project

David Gerrold (and his collaborators) have launched a Kickstarter campaign to raise the budget to produce a TV version of his STAR WOLF series of books. Sounds like they have good intentions:


Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Tuesday, April 30 2013 13:57:27

Burn, Witch, Burn
Fritz Leiber's CONJURE WIFE was also the basis for two other movies: WEIRD WOMAN (1944 with Lon Chaney Jr.) and WITCHES' BREW (1980 with Richard Benjamin and Teri Garr, a comedic version). All are worth checking out, though BURN, WITCH, BURN is the best of the bunch.

Tony Rabig
Parsons, KS - Tuesday, April 30 2013 13:12:56

One more name for those BURN, WITCH, BURN credits...
Yep, Matheson & Beaumont; but the source for that flick is Fritz Leiber's novel Conjure Wife.

The movie's out on DVD now through the Warner Archive -- a little pricey, but worth it. I saw Burn, Witch, Burn in the theater when it first came out, when I was 12; have seen it a number of times since, and it still holds up quite nicely.

Bests to all,


- Tuesday, April 30 2013 12:48:0


Despite the tired turf, that was excellent.


Caught a film on Turner whose title I've known for ever but had never seen: BURN WITCH, BURN from Richard Matheson and Charles Beaumont (the latter nominally by this period due to his illness). I like this one a LOT.

Also revisited the 1963 British version of LORD OF THE FLIES, directed by a Peter Brook. I'm REALLY under its spell, especially by the kid's long close-up in the final fade-out. It hits deep,it really does.


Lately, I've been carrying around Harlan's collection TROUBLEMAKERS to present author and content to many around me heretofore unfamiliar with it, discussing the stories' themes. I'm trying to wake some people up, and I seem to be opening some minds; at least with a few.

Frank Church
- Tuesday, April 30 2013 9:18:48

Alex, that's rather fundamentalist of you. I take it MLK and Dorothy Day and Joshua Heschel were mouth breathers as well?

Cornel West has something for you:




Josh Olson, is it true that you are a Prince fan? Do tell.

Clipping Service
- Tuesday, April 30 2013 5:48:8

Steve Soderbergh Speech Highlights
Interesting thoughts on Art (with capital "A").....presented last Saturday.

Art is simply inevitable. It was on the wall of a cave in France 30,000 years ago, and it’s because we are a species that’s driven by narrative. Art is storytelling, and we need to tell stories to pass along ideas and information, and to try and make sense out of all this chaos. And sometimes when you get a really good artist and a compelling story, you can almost achieve that thing that’s impossible which is entering the consciousness of another human being – literally seeing the world the way they see it.

The simplest way that I can describe it is that a movie is something you see, and cinema is something that’s made. It has nothing to do with the captured medium, it doesn’t have anything to do with where the screen is, if it’s in your bedroom, your iPad, it doesn’t even really have to be a movie. It could be a commercial, it could be something on YouTube. Cinema is a specificity of vision. It’s an approach in which everything matters. It’s the polar opposite of generic or arbitrary and the result is as unique as a signature or a fingerprint. It isn’t made by a committee, and it isn’t made by a company, and it isn’t made by the audience. It means that if this filmmaker didn’t do it, it either wouldn’t exist at all, or it wouldn’t exist in anything like this form.

Whole speech here:


jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Monday, April 29 2013 23:36:5

After reading about your reminiscences of that convention weekend, I am curious (if you will forgive my presumptiveness) how those moments informed your later life. And now, looking back, how you feel about it.

Inquisitivly yours,


Clipping Service
- Monday, April 29 2013 19:47:0

This is truly
lovely. A great remembrance, and great writing as well. A link was posted to this, here, a few days back, but in case anyone missed it.....

....Alan Moore on Robert Morales....

“I’m going to miss the savvy New York creak his conversation had as much as I will surely miss his writing; the commitment, insight and rare passion that he brought to every story, ever feature, every line. One of the comic field’s conspicuously rare voices of colour, he was also one of its most gifted and original contemporary writers. As a genuine creator of integrity, inevitably he came into conflict with an industry that much prefers a bland subservience in its employees to the fierce, ungovernable talent of an actual artist who has something deeply felt to say and does not care to compromise a work which he or she believes in…Moving with no apparent effort between his extraordinarily diverse realms of endeavour, Bob was like a human cultural adhesive that connected up a vast cobweb of people who, in every probability, would never have been introduced to one another save through him. One of the last authentic hipsters, he was sharp, astute, and very, very funny. If I’m honest it might be his anecdotes that I’ll miss most of all, the unexpected courtesy and deference extended to him by a crowd of strangers at a party whom, it transpired, had been informed Bob was a Puerto Rican Mafia prince… Robert Morales had a fine and blazing life, a side or two of classic vinyl that I’m convinced will replay unendingly, just as I entirely expect to pick the ’phone up for an interview with Vibe, one day back in the hectic 1980s, and commence a long, sweet friendship full of warmth and great ideas and lots of memorable laughs. So long for now, Bob, from me and Melinda, and I’m looking forward to enjoying that Mafia anecdote again."

John E. Williams <jwilliams76@verizon.net>
Arlington, VA - Monday, April 29 2013 19:4:1

Can be found at this direct link:


Brooklyn, - Monday, April 29 2013 18:44:55

Frank, atheists, dogs crying at graves

As an atheist, I long ago stopped trying to "explain" things to the particular addicts called the Faithful. For the most part, they are just as self-directed and self-destructive as the heroin fiend, the drunk, the glue-huffer. And just as self-righteous. ("I don't have a problem, it's the rest of you" being the mantra of all the addicts, whether they're cooking meth in the motel kitchenette or cooking heretics on the stake.)

It's a wonderfully complex and delightful universe. And the very luckiest of us (not the worthiest, not the most industrious, just the luckiest) have the leisure and the opportunity to be aware of a tiny, infinitely brief slice of all of it. This brief transit between the darknesses.

And those of us who've had that luck already knew that dogs cry at graves. Why? Not because of a superbeing. Some of us had the luck to have our eyes opened for real. Not the slick whisperings of some con artist who was trying to hook us on The One True God (TM). Some of us had someone who pointed to Lourdes. "Why are there only canes and crutches. Why does no one leave behind a wooden leg?" Some of us don't accept the cheap cop-out "Oh, it's part of His Infinite Plan" as an explanation when we ask why no one who has even been in a burn ward with their face charred away has woken up the next day perfectly fine.

And once you realize that, you start seeing the real beauty.

I've gone on longer than I wanted to. it's just that I'm tired of the people whose nipples perk up when they're running a high school literature teacher in Montana out on a rail for assigning "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" smuggly cloaking themselves in a sense of righteousness. They're bullies. Plain and simple. They come in a bunch of varieties, but it's always the same bullshit intimidation and traditionalism.

Frank, if you can't figure out why you don't need a god to cry at a grave, I submit to you that you will never understand a whole lot of things about being a human being.

Sara B. Slaymaker <saraslay@gmail.com>
Seattle, - Monday, April 29 2013 17:31:43

Hey Guys,
I apologize for being absent for so long, but shit's been going down, y'know? So just a brief drop-in to say hello, hope you all are doing well, and let you know (drum roll, somebody, please) that my first novel, Last Resort, is now for sale as an Ibook on Itunes. So if y'all would care to check it out, you'd make me a happy camper. If you love it, tell me! And if you hate it...sorry...

- Monday, April 29 2013 16:5:25


I remember.

Isaac. The "feud" shtick we did, to a standing ovation You. Then....and now.

How are ya, kiddo?

Yr. Pal, Harlan

- Monday, April 29 2013 15:31:52

what most of us already knew about the "supremes" in 2000


Bernard Schaffer <apiarysociety@gmail.com>
Philadelphia, PA - Monday, April 29 2013 13:16:41

To Harlan or Susan
I sent an email to you both regarding the Kindle All-Stars upcoming appearance at the Philadelphia Comic Con. I'm sure you get more than a few per day, or that said email now languishes unattended and cursed by the Great Man Himself. Either way. I sent it and meant it and should you be so inclined, will dutifully do as I solemnly stated. Later, gator.

Tim Derrick
- Monday, April 29 2013 13:0:37

Matthew B. Tepper, Thank you for sharing that! I remember reading that in one of Asimov's books.

DTS: I'm sorry that I hadn't read the article, I was looking at Frank's post after I saw the comments about it. It just seemed like he was joking.

Matthew B. Tepper <oy@earthlink.net>
Van Nuys, ca - Monday, April 29 2013 12:16:8

Thanks, Phil Nichols,
for the link to Dave Kyle's write-up, which I had not seen before. As you suggest, I don't need proof that the event happened, but perhaps this will also be interesting reading for any other fan historians.

The presentation at Discon II of "A Boy and His Dog" was particularly memorable. Harlan was in good spirits, as he said he was completely satisfied with the way L.Q. Jones had brought his story to the screen. The one fly in the ointment was that one of the two projectors broke down, so that each reel, after screening, had to be wound back, leaving gaps every ten minutes or so. The plus side was that it gave Harlan the opportunity for additional commentary.

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Monday, April 29 2013 0:49:21

Matthew Tepper - another HE


it doesn't confirm the specifics of your recollection, but here is a Dave Kyle report from 1974 which at least confirms the Asimov-Ellison aspect:


Hollywood, California - Sunday, April 28 2013 20:31:21

Harlan Run-Ins
Matthew: I feel quite lucky in that my second Harlan encounter (the first was the left-turn-in-Beverly-Hills incident) was captured on amateur video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWyv4o7_mHA - about 1:40 in). It's not visible, but the part where he stops and says, "I can see it in you, sister. I can SEE!" is where this strange writer-man, working in theatrical evangelical mode, demonstrated an unanticipated dockworker-level strength as he grasped my right shoulder and dug his thumb into the socket. So, not only was one blessed to see Harlan and the esteemed Susan up-close and personal, he randomly made it a tactile event.

Matthew B. Tepper <oy@earthlink.net>
Van Nuys, CA - Sunday, April 28 2013 17:20:38

The kid that Isaac Asimov said was "another Harlan Ellison"
was me.

Okay, Isaac told it a few different ways over the years, but if I may be permitted a quote from Asimov Laughs Again (1992, pp. 87-88):

"I met a young man once at a convention -- young, extremely quick, and intelligent. In fact, except that he was considerably taller, he seemed to me to be another Harlan Ellison.

"I pointed this out enthusiastically to Robert Silverberg, a grave, almost dour, science fiction writer, who is a great wit just the same. I said, 'There's a fellow who's a new Harlan Ellison.'

"And Bob said, 'Shall we kill him now?'"

I met Isaac at Boskone 7 in March 1970. I was loud and lithe in them there days, and 16 years old. The next time I saw Isaac was at Discon II in August 1974, and even though I was then 20 and bearded, he pointed at me, shouted, "You! You're the one!" and regaled the people surrounding him with his previous observation and Agberg's quip. I was a tad startled, to say the least.

That evening was the famous "feud" between Isaac and Harlan, in which they took up opposite sides of the ballroom and hurled loving insults at one another for maybe an hour. And since he had no doubt gotten the desired response from his test audience earlier in the day, he told the story again, with embellishments -- and then called me out by name and asked me to stand up to be recognized by the crowd.

The next day, I was wandering around the hotel when Harlan, seated at the diner counter, recognized me, motioned me over, and offered to stand me to lunch. I had already eaten, but I said I'd be happy to sit with him and have a soft drink. Harlan told me, "You know, it took a lot of guts for you to take that from Isaac yesterday." That's right, Harlan was checking to see if I was fine with it, to make sure my feelings hadn't been hurt. Let's see, my favorite writer compared me with another great writer, who is also one of his best friends, and got a huge laugh out of it. Sure, I was fine with it. More than fine with it.

Harlan asked me about myself, asked what I was doing, asked what plans I had. Harlan told me I was a mensch for taking my knocks with good grace. In other words, Harlan was being Harlan. The real Harlan. Not the Harlan of the mocking stories that some fans love to tell about him, to try to bring him down to their level (not a short joke). Harlan the guy who knows we're all in this together and who hates injustice with all his heart and Harlan who protects and helps the innocents, the unaware, the regular people. The real Harlan.

Compared to all those writers whom Harlan helped by giving them money or taking them into his home, this isn't much. Compared to that woman who phoned him to say that she had read "Paingod" and said it had helped her make up her mind not to commit suicide, this is nothing. Harlan gave me reassurance, just in case I needed it, like saying, kid, you're okay.

That's Harlan.

Now, here's the reason I bring this up. I remember this because it really did happen. I didn't turn out to be "another Harlan," but then, who could? I'm glad Isaac got a good laugh out of it, but memory is fleeting, and I wanted to get this down in words and tell Harlan, thanks for checking in on me.

And this is also the reason: I've never been able to locate any recordings or transcripts of the "feud," so I have no palpable proof. Bob Silverberg might remember his original quip, 43 years later, so I might ask him. But is there anybody who remembers the "feud," when I was singled out for a remarkable distinction? I *did* manage to find, on social media, the woman who had been sitting next to me at that event. She doesn't remember it.

So Harlan, if you see this, thanks again, and do you remember it? 39 years have passed, so you may, or you may not, and I'd understand if you don't; it was just one occurrence at a very crowded and event-filled con for you, but it made my day, and still does every time I think of it.

oz - Sunday, April 28 2013 17:15:40

Note to Joe -- and a trip to exile-ville
(SORRY ALL, Couldn't Ignore JOE W)
JOE: A story both funny AND sad, thanks for sharing, and for giving birds their due. Some of them -- the parrots, lorikeets, cockatoos, Australian magpies and, of course, crows -- I've interacted with around here in oz, are VERY clever, indeed!

Hope you're doing well on your side of the world!
Cheers from oz,

--DTS (who apologizes profusely, and is now going into exile -- AKA, stealth mode -- for a week).

oz - Sunday, April 28 2013 17:10:12

Note to Tim
TIM: Sadly, Aristotle, and the scientists mentioned in the article,
linked to below, were not. If a dummy like me can figure it out with little or no education, and the scientists are only just coming around to the understanding, what hope is there for the rest of the humans who fall somewhere in the "region between", intelligence (and, just, as importantly, compassion)-wise?

In the words of a much better philosopher and observer of the human race, "So it goes".

JOE WEHRLE, JR. <wehrle1@verizon.net>
Punxsutawney, PA - Sunday, April 28 2013 16:56:21

DTS: And even having recognized the existence of emotions in the usual pets, like cats and dogs, I was surprised by this: My late wife kept a flock of zebra finches in very large flight cages (and I am still harboring a few, although not quite so many). There was one male who earned our affection early on because of the charming personality he seemed to radiate. He lived with the same mate for two or three years, then she appeared to tire of him and began to rebuff him constantly and aggressively. When it became obvious this wasn't something that would blow over, my wife took the female to our son-in-law's mother, who also kept finches, and the lady bird proceeded to bask eagerly in the attentions of all the males in that flock. "Tramp!" my wife said, under her breath. But our friend the jilted male was absolutely devastated. One could obviously tell by his behavior that he was grieving, and even when we got him another mate, he refused to acknowledge her presence for quite some time, going off in a corner by himself. Finally he rallied and began to sit alongside the new mate, and they had a friendly and peaceful relationship the rest of their lives, but it never seemed quite as good as the first love affair was before it soured. I've seen a lot of parallels to human relationships in these birds, from petty squabbling to snuggling in the same nest.

Tim Derrick
- Sunday, April 28 2013 15:10:50

I thought Frank was just joking.

oz - Sunday, April 28 2013 14:51:49

Aristotle was an idiot, & other observations about dogs & cats
FRANK: One DOESN'T need to believe in an invisible deity to have intelligence and emotion -- in my opinion, where the first is concerned, just the opposite, in fact. So atheists need not explain the actual grief of an animal. In fact, ANYone with brains AND a heart, and who has had his or her share of animal friends, has already noticed their canine or feline friends acting in ways that science (and, of course, religion) used to say was impossible. Why? Because we humans -- in our belief that everything revolves around US -- have, for too long, followed the same old paradigms in our thinking and our behavior (which -- another topic -- explains the screwed up, often stagnant, state of most societies worldwide). And the blame can't be layed solely at the feet of scientists -- check out the "Wall Street Journal" article, below -- who have tried to measure intelligence and emotion in ANIMALS for centuries using HUMANS (doh) as a reference point. Even Aristotle considered animals inferior; and, as anyone with a working noggin knows, by today's standards of knowledge, Aristotle was an idiot.

The fact that scientists are just starting to realize things mentioned in the article below (things that average people like myself, and others, have been bitching about, in public and private, for decades), only serves to frustrate me more when it comes to my fellow humans. (And the fact that a guy like "Vick", who obviously condoned the torture and killing of lots of dogs, can be let out of prison and given a million dollar job as a "reward" for past behavior, disgusts the hell out of me).

FRANK, I can't tell if it's simply lack of education -- due to your supernatural beliefs -- or lack of humility, due to your being part of a species that often believes it is the center of the universe, but stating that an animal displaying grief is proof positive of your supernatural beliefs and deity is just sad, given the revelation you've encountered.

(Sorry Frank: My disappointment with fellow humans has only grown with each passing year -- to my dismay -- and you said something that set me to ranting, albeit in a semi-civilized manner. C'est la vie).

ALL: hope you others will avail yourselves of the article below. I generally avoid most things printed in the "WJ", because of it's conservative ties and obvious bias, but this article is a good one.

Cheers from Oz,


LETTERS in Response to the Above article:


Diane Bartels
- Sunday, April 28 2013 13:3:50

Frank, maybe when an exceptional human is very, very good, he or she approaches dogness. Seems to me I read something to that effect once.

Beautiful Northridge, CA - Sunday, April 28 2013 10:27:50

Robert Morales remembered / The greatest, longest coda in music
I came across a great eulogy to Robert Morales (which includes an excerpt from a written statement by Alan Moore, as well as hotlink to a great interview that Harlan Ellison once granted the writer after Mr. Morales's assistance.) It sure sounds like his sense of loyalty and friendship was just as deep and fierce as Mr. Ellison's.




I love this live performance of a classical-guitar arrangement of the Bach Chaconne (originally written for the violin, of course, as the last movement of the Partita #2 for Unaccompanied Violin in d minor, BWV 1004).

My favorite classical guitar arrangement of this monumental piece is by John Williams (no, not the film composer, but the world-renowned classical guitarist who probably is best known for recording Stanley Myers's now-famous "Cavatina" that opens and closes the film THE DEERHUNTER), who also recorded it. (That recording, performed on a Greg Smallman guitar, can be found on his CD album called 'The Baroque Album.')

But the guitarist here does an amazing job, and he plays a guitar made by Ignacio Fleta (Williams also once played a Fleta and used it to record the above-mentioned music for THE DEERHUNTER, as well as many, many pieces of the repertoire in his his early discography).


Frank Church
- Sunday, April 28 2013 10:25:31

This is freaking me out. A dog cries at the grave of a grandmother. Maybe dogs are human:


Ok, Atheists, explain that!

Samuel John Klein <samuel.klein@gmail.com>
Portland, Oregon, Republic of Cascadia - Sunday, April 28 2013 9:3:58

Always The Last To Know
I know! I come here and the Sex Gang was already through. Just found my invitation, jammed down in the bottom of the mail slot, ooooof course!

At least I don't have to clean up this time.

Put upon. You don't know! Well maybe YOU do, Williams, but the rest of you? Not a scintilla!

Zack Malatesta
Atlanta, GA - Sunday, April 28 2013 8:52:18

I pop in here for the first time in ages only to find you folks talking about starting a SEX GANG...

John E. Williams <jwilliams76@verizon.net>
Arlington, VA - Sunday, April 28 2013 6:28:52

FinderDoug: Thanks!

gottacook <gottacook@juno.com>
Silver Spring, MD - Saturday, April 27 2013 22:30:1

Yesterday, for the first time in decades, I looked through my paperback of the first volume of Star Trek script adaptations by James Blish - a special Bantam edition with no cover price, obtained through my junior high school book club at least a year before I ever saw an episode on NBC - and discovered the dedication:
"to Harlan Ellison
who was right all the time"
(...about what, I wonder?) Within a few hours, quite by coincidence, I found myself reading about our host's encounter with Frank Sinatra, circa 1966, as recounted in Gay Talese's "Frank Sinatra Has a Cold," which I'd never read before. I'd been looking at "The woe after the show: The Longform guide to sad retired athletes" at Slate.com, read and enjoyed Talese's Esquire piece on Joe DiMaggio (also from 1966), then looked around Talese's site and found the Sinatra article.

Rob, I have not forgotten about trying to locate and send my (coverless) Fatman, The Human Flying Saucer #1. Will post here again when it turns up. I suspect it will be found together with an issue of Herbie and one of Not Brand Ecch.

- Saturday, April 27 2013 15:53:2

Fun Facts to Help One Forget
Here are some Fun Facts to help one forget the frankly crazy-minded thinking, like that mentioned by Rob, below, which oft-times permeates the brains of too many North Americans.

1) On average, six-year-old children laugh approximately 300 times per day. Adults laugh between 15 and 100 times per day.

2) In Texas, it is illegal to graffiti a cow

3) The tulip originated in Turkey, not Holland.

4) Snails have teeth.

5) Every person has a unique tongue print.

6) The name "Ringo" roughly translates to apple in Japanese. (Which means Gwyneth Paltrow chose wisely when naming her daughter).

- Saturday, April 27 2013 13:41:5

Breaking News from the Libertarian Paranoia Network (LPB)!

The Boston Marathon bombing was all set up by our government! "It's 9/11 all over again!"

Barney Dannelke <dannelke@gmail.com>
Allentown, Pennsylvania - Saturday, April 27 2013 9:4:55

SEX GANG / Pulling a Train - last car.
Harlan - Just had a LONG conversation with the inestimable Tim Richmond. Based on what he told me about the "Linda" copy (50 cents / not 75 cents) and what David Jessup said, AND the era this thing manifested - middle 1970's - I stand by my theory from last October that it's a price sticker variant. The difference in "tone" in the black and white reproduction virtually seals the deal for me.

One more circumstantial detail that you may or may not remember. When you were doing the four comic shop mini-tour to support the launch of the DREAM CORRIDOR series there was a fellow in the third shop you visited who had a small box of very rare Ellison books. He had multiple copies of all your Regency stuff, the Signet/Vonnegut blurb, etc. He also had five or six copies of SEX GANG in the three variants in fine to mint condition. That guy was deep into collecting you. Like I said, five or six copies. The most I ever saw in one place at one time. You signed most or all of them. That guy didn't have a 75 cent variant. My gut tells me if that thing existed as a separate edition and not a sticker variant THAT guy would have had one.

So done with this now.

I told Tim whatever I said in the last 90 minutes he should feel free to pass on to you. I know I have been a bad friend these last two years in terms of checking in. I'm going to try and fix that. Hugs - B

David Jessup
Rochester, NY, - Saturday, April 27 2013 5:59:26

My introduction to “Sex Gang” was via J Grant Thiessen’s “The Science-Fiction Collector,” issue 8, October (December) 1979, page 23. Detailing the contents of the book, there is a dark b&w repro of the cover, and the price shown there is 75c... in a circle that doesn’t quite match the tone of the rest of that area of the cover. After seeing the color shot FinderDoug noted, I too would suspect a sticker. Having worked in retail bookselling, I know it would have been a lot cheaper to up-price the stock when Nightstand went to an across-the-board 75c by slapping stickers on the cover... versus pulping and reprinting. Finding a physical copy to examine is the only way to be sure. (My “1503 R” is 50c.)

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Friday, April 26 2013 21:16:9

The Sex Gang search
Seems to me, track down the Heritage auction winner. Ask him, is it a sticker, or not?


- Friday, April 26 2013 21:3:29

The Sex Gang Variations
John -

Let me offer what I have:

The two editions that Christopher Kovacs identifies - the first and second printings - both have .50 cent cover prices.

The version Harlan seeks is identical-looking to the second printing - 'NB 1503 R aSn' on the cover and spine - but has a 75 cent price on the cover in place of the 50 cent price (lower right hand corner). Price may be printed, or may be a sticker overlay - it's hard to say for certain without seeing one up close. The only picture that I've found so far that shows the 75 cent price, albeit obliquely, is from a Heritage Auction in 2007; this link should take you to it, and offers a mega-zoom on the image:


The one Harlan seeks is the only iteration with a 75 cent cover price.

All three of these share the same cover art. A later reprint by Greenleaf Publishing (under the Reed Nightstand imprint) used a different cover completely, and isn't the one that's being sought. You can see that reprint in a clear version (along with the original) here, for comparison:


Happy hunting!

John E. Williams <jwilliams76@verizon.net>
Arlington, VA - Friday, April 26 2013 18:12:10

Harlan, I'm in the dark about the history of the book, or what edition you're looking for, but I will poke around DC and see what I can find. In the meantime, is this description from a site called AbeBooks in any way helpful to my search?

Book Description: Nightstand Books, USA, 1959. Paperback. Book Condition: Very Good. First Edition. Correct first printing of this paperback original collection of violent stories and naked passions. NB 1503 code. A very good copy with some light rubbing to covers. A scarce and early Harlan Ellison book written under the Merchant alias.

Christopher Kovacs <ckovacs@mun.ca>
St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada - Friday, April 26 2013 17:47:52

SEX GANG first printing
What Barney has described is the SECOND printing of SEX GANG. The "R" in "NB 1503 R aSn" stands for reprint.

The first printing simply reads "NB 1503 aSN" on the cover and on the spine.

Frank Church
- Friday, April 26 2013 8:24:42

Bob Edgar is proof Christians are not the evil beasts Dawkins and his ilk make them out to be. Moyers, Cornel West, Dorothy Day, Frank Church, right thinking Christers abound.

We see the glass as half full, but with holy water.



Sex Gang Children were a punk band. Either they were big Harlan fans or they liked hot sex or both.


They also passed a law saying it was ok for congress people to have inside information to trade stocks. And you have Obama going to Bush's idiotic Library acting like nothing happened.

Another story is the fact that the FBI didn't follow the bombers because they were too busy following Occupy and giving bomb making material to muslims. It's in Mother Jones.

Ah, the magazine. I doubt Mother Jones wants anything in her now.

I know, eww.

Barney Dannelke <dannelke@gmail.com>
Allentown, Pennsylvania - Friday, April 26 2013 7:43:39

SEX GANG - variant
I can't help you on obtaining that 75 cent jobber. Don't own one and have never seen one outside the single Heritage Auction photo. I'll just say again what I told Doug and you and Susan via correspondence last October. I think the thing is a sticker variant. Every single visible point on that book is IDENTICAL to the first printing except for the 25 cent bump in price - which I believe to be a sticker. I honestly believe someone found a case or two of them - or, maybe a short stack - and slapped small stickers over the original 50 cent price in the same location on the cover.

The art is the same. The spine is the same. And the book code (NB 1503 R aSn)is precisely the same. If Tim is saying approximately 1975 this corresponds with another sticker practice. Namely, taking overstock of 1st or early printing of underground comics from Last Gasp, etc. and sending them out to head shops with newer .75 $1.00 $1.25 price stickers on them rather than reprinting the comic itself. These variants make collecting various "states" of early undergrounds as complicated as collecting Classics Illustrated Comics by the HRN numbers.

I *hate* to suggest this - but perhaps Earl Kemp might know about any such redistribution. But until someone puts one in my hand and i can drag my thumb over the cover - I say you are looking for a sticker and not a book. At the point where you are going through all of that Kinko's bother for a framing job you might as well just print your own. I'll never tell.

Hugs - B

Beautiful Northridge, CA - Friday, April 26 2013 1:8:58

Robert Morales
I was very sorry to read about Robert Morales. I once took an English literature class for personal enrichment and had to write a paper on Mary Shelley's FRANKENSTEIN. I was agonizing whether to use the 1818 text or the 1831 one as my primary source, so posted here for suggestion. He kindly answered right away and enthusiastically recommended the 1818 text.

I see his last post here was on March 26 of this year, and it was just to forward the following link on Cordwainer Smith:

The Atlantic on Cordwainer Smith


I just returned from a road trip from Oregon and Washington state. In Portland, I hiked the Columbia River Gorge, drank too much sampling the local microbrews, visited the Portland Art Museum, and enjoyed playing pool while listening to tunes on the jukebox.

I also made a stop at Powell's Books on W. Burnside. The last time I was there was back in 1981, and it has changed a lot. There aren't that many used books anymore, and it seems like a lot of the stock could be found at any big book emporium like Barnes and Noble (or Borders before they went under).

I went to the Blue Room, where they have poetry and literature, and looked for Harlan Ellison's books, but under Ellison only found some guy named Ralph. I did find in this section of the store a decent used 1st edition of Gerald Kersh's FOWLER'S END, however. Plus, a lovely, ethereal young woman who worked there helped me locate a couple some books in the Poetry section, and I bought some books there as gifts.

Harlan Ellison's books, "of course," were found in the adjacent room where they keep Science Fiction and Fantasy. They had a few copies of the EDGEWORKS books, as well as a Book Club Edition of STALKING THE NIGHTMARE.

From Portland, I drove up to Seattle to visit an old friend from childhood. It was my first time to Washington state, but I took an instant disliking to Seattle. It reminded me a lot of San Francisco (where I had to live for 11 years due to my job), and I don't mean it in a good way. Pike's Market Place was every bit a tourist trap like SF's Fisherman's Wharf or Ghiradelli Square. At the lowest level, however, I was delighted to find a used-book store there called "BMLF," which stands for "Books Like a Motherf*cker." I asked the owner if he carried any Harlan Ellison books, and he kindly showed my the small stack of them near the entrance. Unfortunately, I had them all already.

Despite the drizzle, I did enjoy walking with my friend around beautiful Gas Works Park, and to the top of the hill where the sundial is. Such a beautiful open space. I even saw a few Canadian Geese walking around there. It reminded me (in a very GREAT way) of San Francisco's beautiful Crissy Field and the egrets in that restored marsh there. And after Gas Works Park, we continued our tête-à-tête over a pot of Rooibos tea at a great cafe.

The next time I return to Washington state, I hope to also get to visit the Olympic Peninsula, Mt. Rainier, Puget Sound, and maybe spot some orcas (such magnificent creatures) in the San Juan Islands.

This road trip gave me more practice, too, as a vegan traveler.

The drive straight home (with a few gas and rest stops in between) to LA took 20 hours.

EU - Friday, April 26 2013 0:7:27

Still Screaming
Harlan Ellison Still Has a Mouth, Thankfully Still Screaming -- by Ryan Britt

My Writers: Harlan Ellison -- by Dan Seeger

- Thursday, April 25 2013 20:46:56

HARLAN - I've had eyes peeled for the 75 cent cover variant of SEX GANG for you since you and I sorted out that it did, indeed, exist. Haven't spotted one, or even a photo of one, save for the one sold by Heritage Auctions back in 2007 (with the cover at an angle to include the spine.) Sorry, but I don't see any in the current used book streams online; and all I have is a first. I'll continue to ponder additional potential sources until you acquire one to work with, in whatever fashion it presents.

Rosemary Connors <rosie3bee@yahoo.com>
Ardmore, PA - Thursday, April 25 2013 18:37:57

One of the good guys
Thanks, Frank Church, for mentioning that Bob Edgar, head of Common Cause, died this week. I knew Bob for almost 40 years, having been privileged to work for him on his six successful campaigns for the House of Representatives, as well as being a member of his District Congressional staff. Bill Moyers, who was one of Bob's heroes, said on his website today: "There are people in public life who cannot be bought, flattered, or hammered into submission. Bob Edgar was one of them."

When I found out on Tuesday the shocking news that Bob died earlier that day - shocking, because he was just 69, working out on his treadmill when he went lights out, for Christ's sake - my first impulse was to write something about him. I felt like I needed to get words out to... I wasn't quite sure to what end.

People here in the Pavilion seem to have gone through the loss of a lot of loved ones lately, and no one has been more affected than our beloved host. I now humbly join your ranks. Through your posts on this site, I have seen so many of you grapple with your complex emotions at difficult times, and you have done it with grace and sadness and confusion and humor and anger and gratitude.

In ways I don't think I was even sure of until the "ping" of reading Frank's comment, I now *know* that you all were part of the inspiration that enabled me to write the following thoughts about Bob, which I was then able to share on my Facebook page the afternoon he died. I am so, so glad I did, because that gesture - to write it out - has brought me a modicum of peace when there could have been just confusion about Bob's sudden death. It also seems to have resonated with some of the folks on the Book of Face with whom I shared my thoughts.

Thinking about the impact we can have on people - loved ones we cherish, strangers we serve, disparate souls called together by the imaginative voice of a gifted writer - takes my breath away a little bit, but in a good way. This is the spirit in which I wrote these thoughts about Bob, whose whole life was a profound yes! to the beauty of being open to being there for others, no matter the political or economic circumstances or consequences.

And it is in that same vein that I thank all of you - particularly Harlan, the general in front of this ragtag army of big-hearted warriors - for inspiring me to find words to keep me keeping on during this difficult, joyful march through loss and thanksgiving. I share these words with you in gratitude.

This is what I wrote on Tuesday:

Bob Edgar died today.

With the exception of my parents, I can think of no single individual who has had a bigger influence on my life, or was the sourcepoint of who I turned out to be, what I care about.

Bob was a Methodist minister, one of the founders of the People's Emergency Center, a US congressman, dean of a theological school, and the head of Common Cause when he died. I worked on his campaigns and in his Congressional District Office, and have stayed in touch with him and his wife Merle for the 39 years since I first met them. He was an old school liberal Democrat, a good guy, a terrible joke teller, and man - did he walk the talk.

And there are literally hundreds - hundreds - of friendships that came about with him as the point of origin. There are all the friends I made from the campaigns and the congressional office, my fellow "Edgarteers", but for so many of you - you didn't even know you had Bob to thank for us connecting in the first place. For example, *anyone* I have ever met through any connection at Penn or Wharton - no Bob, no us, because I found out about my job at Wharton through my dear friend Jake Marini, who I know because of her friend, my old boyfriend, with whom I worked at Bob's office. Bob is the origin of the reasons I got to songwriting classes, and met my Iowa and Wisconsin and London families, and started Buddhist studies - and so many more things I could go on and on about.

This is the way your life works out: you are 12, and your parents are having a "get to know you" coffee for their friends on behalf of a young guy named Bob Edgar running for Congress in a David and Goliath battle against an entrenched Republican incumbent. *Something* strikes you about the guy when you meet him. At the end of the evening you muster your courage and say, I want to help you with your campaign but I know I am only 12. But I know you have three sons so I will babysit them for free while you are running for Congress.

And then it is almost 40 years later. And you feel sad and confused because that alpha point in your life is dead. A little existential fear descends, because you think: My God, what would my life had been like if I never met him? And then, a split second later, it comes to you. You feel grateful and happy - because you *did* meet him, and this is the way your life was supposed to work out, and it was all right.

- Thursday, April 25 2013 17:27:53


After 54 yers, I've decided to bite the bullet...and do it.

I am going to frame good copies of the stiff-paperback-covers of each of the SEX GANG editions, in the lee of the publication of PULLING A TRAIN and GETTING IN THE WIND. I already have waiting, ready to go, covers of the original, and even the 2nd printing, plus multiples of everything else...save one.

Somewhere out there is a version of SEX GANG bearing a cover price of 75 cents. I've seen it reproduced a few times, and it's noted as something like 1975 in Tim Richmond's FINGERPRINTS ON THE SKY (still in process, but much closer today to completion and publication than last week at this time)
(after all, he's only been slaving over this bibliography for 17 and a half years), and elsewhere...but I don't have one in my archive or scrapbook.

I need one. Or at least I need to borrow one (all expenses paid) for reproduction. Or I need someone to get THEIR copy to a good copier place, and have a stiff copy made of the cover AND the actual month and year of first publication of that "third" or "pirated" edition winged to me for the project.

Can anyone help me? Barney, Miriam Linna, DougFinder, Scott Norris, Leslie Swigart, any regular here, Michael Zuzel, any stray visitor, any bookseller or bibliographer you can post this to, virally, tweetingly, anywhichway?

I'd like to get these incunabula to the framer after more than half a century. I've manned-up...now will someone aid my appeal?

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Tim Derrick
- Thursday, April 25 2013 16:3:53

I agree with DTS on National Healthcare. 100%.

- Thursday, April 25 2013 14:44:18

I'll learn to be less prolix!!!

oz - Thursday, April 25 2013 14:27:39

Note to "Vox"
VOX: The wisest Americans know that 1) Obama's healthcare initiative was a wounded beast (wounded by Republicans, and other Conservative types) going in, but that it is still the beginning of something that has worked JUST FINE in other countries (works great here in Australia) and that only willfully ignorant morons or those with ulterior motives oppose National Healthcare, and 2) that Republicans and other conservatives _continue_ to try and muck-up, or, eventually kill, what remains of the Healthcare initiative.

But, to quote the Pop Philosopher John Mellencamp, these days, "Ain't That America"?

Cheers from Oz,

Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Thursday, April 25 2013 13:24:36

The Fourth Doctor
Just a reminder that BBC America is doing a special every month on each of the Doctors from DOCTOR WHO. This Sunday night is the Fourth Doctor, Tom Baker -- including an interview with Mr. Baker. He is the favorite Doctor of many (including, I believe, our host). So it should be a fun evening.

Vox Clamantis in Deserto
- Thursday, April 25 2013 10:7:27

If Obamacare is so great...

Lawmakers, aides may get Obamacare exemption.


Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Thursday, April 25 2013 1:17:35

Brad Stevens - Matriculations, Terminations


I stand corrected. I read the headline and the first couple of paragraphs. Because it was a familiar story (from its debunking), I didn't get to the end, and therefore didn't get to the TERMINATOR reference. My bad; and my apologies if I implied that you had lost your marbles!

- Phil

TEXAS - Wednesday, April 24 2013 23:46:36

Thanks for the link! It rocks!!!



Thanks for what you wrote. I'm glad we're square.

Hope you're over the fall-- and back to business. That was scary. Good thing you're tough or you could have broken something.

Barney Dannelke <dannelke@gmail.com>
Allentown, Pennsylvania - Wednesday, April 24 2013 18:2:21

Follow up Gernsbackificationisms
Thanks for the response regarding meeting and speaking with Hugo Gernsback. I was never a pulp collector, but wading through this collection has me looking at names and bodies of work I never really much thought about. Imagining you at the age of 18 with Gernsback - makes me smile.

I hope you and Susan had a good time with Tim & Andrea. I was sort of hoping to hear from him before, during or after, but I also know what an exhausting hassle intercontinental travel has become even on a slow news week. Which Tim's visit most definitely was not. So, if you talk to him before I do, tell him I said, "howdy."

As for how I'm doing... well, just started my tenth year as a full time bookseller. It beats work and I learn stuff more or less every day so there's that. Lenora is still working freelance. Kyla is out in Chicago riding the blue line and going for her PhD. in Psychology at Adler. I quit drinking 27 months ago. Pretty much just in time to attend some dear friends funerals dead sober. A couple of those ANGRY CANDY years. At 53 it now starts to be my turn in that barrel. Survivor's guilt. Some new things I could do without learning. You know.

This years projects seem to be gardening and fixing up the house after five years of neglect. I am also playing some long games and some VERY long games. But that's nothing for this wall.

That's the news from Lake Wobegon. Take care. Hugs - B

Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Wednesday, April 24 2013 16:10:20

Sophia Stewart
The Sophia Stewart claims have been mentioned and debunked around here in LA many years ago. No truth to it:


Diane Bartels
- Wednesday, April 24 2013 14:24:25

For Steven B, I have been reading your weight loss blog and I just wanted to say it and you have helped fight some cravings the last couple days. I messed up today, but I will be good tomorrow. TY

Brad Stevens
- Wednesday, April 24 2013 12:25:25

Phil - The story I linked to is mainly about THE MATRIX, but THE TERMINATOR is also mentioned: "Stewart, a New Yorker who has resided in Salt Lake City for the past five years, will recover damages from the films, The Matrix I, II and III, as well as The Terminator and its sequels."

Specific information about Sophia Stewart's claims re. THE TERMINATOR can be found here: http://wwwthedivineoraclesophia.blogspot.co.uk/

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Wednesday, April 24 2013 12:12:54

Brad Stevens - Terminator/Matrix confusion?

Brad Stevens,

You referred to THE TERMINATOR, but the pages you linked to were about THE MATRIX. Methinks you mistyped. As far as I know, there is zero connection between the creators of these two films (and zero connection between THE MATRIX and Harlan).

We have a word for this: Oops!

- Phil

Paul Anderson
Front Royal, Virginia - Wednesday, April 24 2013 10:33:46

Harlan: Damn, my mistake. Misread. (Of course, in all honesty, if I had thought for an instant, I would've realized the simplicity of my comment; you're the man who inspired me to get my Royal Manual working again.)

Adam: ...That is, by far, the oddest thing I've seen yet.



Frank Church
- Wednesday, April 24 2013 9:37:43

In other news, we still have our own terrorists:



Sad week. Bob Edgar, head of Common Cause is dead. He spoke at my church a few weeks ago. A great man--they all are leaving us.

Brad Stevens
- Wednesday, April 24 2013 7:6:21

Interesting to see that somebody else is claiming to have been ripped off by the creators of THE TERMINATOR:


Though much of that story would appear to be inaccurate:


Adam-Troy Castro
- Wednesday, April 24 2013 6:13:50

In response to the comforting voice-mail you left (we were in, but recharging the phone): my eloquent confusion was not over the Kirkus review, which was negative but at least coming from a sane place on this planet, but the two five star ** customer ** reviews, which were nonsensical as text and -- I have since divined -- manifestations of a current fad for hijacking the customer review spaces for internet role playing games. (Hence the one customer reviewer saying that he was sneaking up behind the other one with a pipe). Just people being weird, is the explanation.

Alamogordo, NM - Wednesday, April 24 2013 5:38:59

Ms. Weldon has always struck me as a person of discerning taste.

Clipping Service
- Tuesday, April 23 2013 19:22:40

The Lord giveth, and decided NOT to take away. Hmmm.
Was just thinking about the man Faye Weldon has just called "the blessed one".

If the Good Lord had intended him to shuffle off our mortal coil, could He (not H.E) have staged any BETTER a finale for his Anointed One than to tumble him backwards, in the middle of the Simpson's writers room, after killing on his comic narrative portrayal (of himself, of course), on the exact same spot where H.E once ruled, yea, verily, where H.E scripted "Valley Of The Dolls" (!!!), in the middle of a Shakespearian soliloquy?

WITH the potential of a multi-million dollar lawsuit against Rupert Murdoch?

I mean, how perfect an departure would THAT have been?

But He (not H.E) moves in mysterious ways. H.E was spared from participating in this most immaculate exit strategy.

But, here is the question.

As the Lord clearly moves in mysterious ways, just WHAT is He (not H.E) keeping "the blessed one" around for? And, when (and far more likely, IF) He (not H.E) decides to gather this particularly unruly flock, what epic farewell does He have in store that can TOP what was happily just averted?

In the words of the Great Seer, Criswell, "God help us, in the future".

oz - Tuesday, April 23 2013 19:5:0

Harlan's Introduction to "The Man Who Rowed Christopher..."
HARLAN: Any chance your introduction to "The Man Who Rowed Christopher Columbus Ashore" will appear in any English language magazines (or, perhaps, in a forthcoming issue of HERC)?

I still enjoy the hell out of the afterword in BEST AMERICAN SHORT STORIES 1993, and if the "The Man Who Rowed Christopher Columbus Ashore" isn't my absolute favorite (it's always hard to choose just one) of your stories, it is definitely in my list of top 20 favorites. So a chance to read the new introduction would be most awesome, dude (tip o' the hat to "Bill & Ted")!

Hope the bruises are starting to fade, along with the memory of the spill.

All best wishes to you and Susan,

Adam-Troy Castro
- Tuesday, April 23 2013 18:45:48

Just Because It Defines Weird
I won't ever say no to five-star reviews, but what we have for GUSTAV GLOOM AND THE NIGHTMARE VAULT at Barnes and Noble online, I simply don't understand at all.


- Tuesday, April 23 2013 18:42:7


Perhaps I wasn't clear. I lost NONE of the introduction I was working on when you interviewed me last week. I lost my email response to Mark Barsotti TODAY. The intro was completed on typewriter, given to my assistant to repro as an email attachment, and was sent off after I made hand-corrections to
a few words (and the addition of a few more words of merit)
earlier today, and has already reached my editor in Poland.

Good luck with transcribing the telecon interview.

Thank you for worrying; but since the famous, most excellent Fay Weldon has called me "blessed," I am soaring right now.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Paul A
Front Royal, Virginia - Tuesday, April 23 2013 18:0:46

Intro to "The Man Who Rowed Christopher Columbus Ashore"

Oh, man--how much of your intro was lost? You mentioned it when we talked on Thursday and I can't imagine the work lost.

In other news, I should have the rough transcript--minus the coughs, ums, false-starts, and pauses--to you by the end of the week.

Cheers (I hope),

Paul A

Rick Ollerman <rick@ollerman.com>
Littleton, NH - Tuesday, April 23 2013 17:46:2

Scooby-doo isn't, either
I just popped on to the site to see what was new and my nine year-old son climbed up next to me and saw Harlan's posts and said, "Wait--Harlan Ellison's REAL?"

Yup. He's been watching too much Scooby.

Chuck Messer
- Tuesday, April 23 2013 15:30:36

Harlan: Forgiveness is easy. Back-healing is hard. I hope your healing process continues apace. Gravity does seem to get a lot less forgiving after the age of fifty.


- Tuesday, April 23 2013 15:18:19


Guess what idiot with the initials H.E. lost his email reply to Mark Barsotti, and half a dozen other items of interest? Including details of the new 1500-word essay/intro I finished yesterday for my Polish editor Kris Sokolowski, to accompany a magazine reprint of "The Man Who Rowed Christopher Columbus Ashore" -- and that I talked to Neil and to Patton about Morales -- whose funeral at the Ponce Funeral Home was yesterday -- and my tongue-tied amazement that Fay Weldon even knows I exist -- and -- and -- and Bob Crais's new novel, SUSPECT, is a corker -- and -- and -- and my back is healing steadily and I'm still sapient, but no more adept at electronic communication. Forgive me.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

- Tuesday, April 23 2013 15:4:48

THINGS I HAVE TO REPLY TO...tsk...end with predicate

- Tuesday, April 23 2013 12:28:38

While we're on the subject, another one of my faves, the diversely talented Darren McGavin.

Tom Hensley <tom@diamondville.com>
Sherman Oaks, CA - Tuesday, April 23 2013 11:57:0

Falling Down
Just catching up here, and I was sorry to read of the Harlan-spill over at Fox. As I've learned, to my chagrin, falling down is a much bigger deal for those of us with higher mileage on our odometers. I used to fall down on purpose, just to get a laugh. Nowadays, healing is a longer-term process, and not undertaken lightly. I guess that's the reason why that over-60 professional football league never took off.

Harlan, I'm doing some video transfers here at Hensley Farms and found myself re-viewing the dvd of the guided tour of your house with brother Joe and his dear Char all those years ago. It was a joy to revisit the back-and-forth between you and my bro, and a reminder of how much he is missed by us, and I know, by you.

On behalf of Joe and all the Hensleys, I wish for you a speedy return to fighting shape--there are plenty of bastards remaining who need the punishment you dole out so skillfully.

Frank Church
- Tuesday, April 23 2013 9:6:56

Look at this shit:


Fuck you, Ron!


Adam Troy Castro, ooooooooooo, sounds scary, ooooooooo.

Just ribbin ya, I'm sure it will be wonderful.

Mark Barsotti <markbeach60@yahoo.com>
San Diego, CA - Tuesday, April 23 2013 8:25:23

Dangerous Visions...
...mentioned (and "the blessed Ellison") in the favorite books section of last week's news mag THE WEEK:


And, having talked to Ed B last night, glad to hear you're still on the mend from your fall but sorry the healing isn't further along. Like everything else, when you go ass-over-tea-kettle, you do it full bore. Ed got the impression your SIMPSONS appearance isn't slated until 2014. Is that correct?

Best to Susan,


Diane Bartels
- Tuesday, April 23 2013 7:18:59

Adam-Troy, congratulations on your new book. Might you and Judy be touring for it and come by Chicago? If so, let us know. I would like to see you guys in person, and get my copy signed. Also you could bring pictures of Harley and the other kitties. DB

Adam-Troy Castro <adamcastro999@yahoo.com>
- Tuesday, April 23 2013 6:59:34

Self-Serving Avaricious Bastard Makes An Appearance
Okay, so this is a plug, but I'll make it a brief one: the second volume of my middle-grade fantasy series, GUSTAV GLOOM AND THE NIGHTMARE VAULT, is out on bookstore shelves now. Check it out if you're not crusty purple.

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Tuesday, April 23 2013 2:33:46

Fay Weldon

Thanks, Gary Clark, for posting that link to the Fay Weldon piece. How cheering to see that she listed DANGEROUS VISIONS second on her list of six chosen books - and that she referred to "the blessed Ellison"!

Harlan, go read! I think it will cheer you:

- Phil

EU - Monday, April 22 2013 23:54:21

WEB review at GEEK HARD:

Gary Clark <goclark@att.net>
Davis, CA - Monday, April 22 2013 19:14:36

Fay Weldon comment about DV
I ran across this in the latest issue of "The Week" magazine, of which my 90 yr old neighbor gives me his copies after reading. Here's a link to the electronic version, and Fay Weldon putting in a good word for Harlan and Dangerous Visions -
I like that she picked Miss Lonely Hearts and Hunger as well.

Kenny Noor
- Monday, April 22 2013 16:45:13

I don't know if anyone has posted this, it appears that many works translated in french have been posted without the author's permission. Included in the collection is "Harlan Ellison : Toute une vie, dont une enfance pauvre (One Life, Furnished in Early Poverty).

See link below

Harlan Ellison, Ursula K. Le Guin Among Award-Winning Writers On French “Copyright Theft” List

Steve Barber <thumbnailtraveler@verizon.net>
- Monday, April 22 2013 16:43:45

Strange Times

"...we should not bander the term terrorism about like a dolly with no head. The two boys were criminals, plain and simple."

Tsk, tsk, Frank. You fall into the same "gotta label it SOMETHING trap".

To your point: Until we KNOW the motive, then we should not label them.

If their motivation was to murder, then they are murderers. If they wanted to terrify the city of Boston, then they are terrorists. It's one of those two, since the word "criminals" is far too slight a title for their actions.

I've been far too absent from these parts for the last month or so. March and April have, so far, been a bit more..."active"...than the first two months of the year.

Just last Saturday we hosted a fantastic event in our back yard entitled "Jazz on the Patio", which was a fundraiser for the Jazz Angels, the nonprofit for which both Cris and I sit on the Board of Directors. (She, of course, is the Prez.) Wonderful turnout -- more than 75 paying guests and at least a dozen family members and another dozen musicians. Full stage setup with lawn seating for 50 and a bar with hors d'oeuvres. I feel so very grown up.

The week prior to this my parents were in town and...well, it hurt a lot to see them. My father's Parkinson's has advanced very quickly to the point where his left hand is in constant tremor. His mind is foggy, and he is aware of the decline. He is, alongside Harlan, the sharpest man I've known, and it is devastating to him to be losing that faculty. (Harlan, I will seek your thoughts on this later. I find myself needing your advice.)

My mother fares no better. Physically she's fine, but her mind is slipping a lot, like a car which refuses to shift into third...but once it gets past that point becomes solid and reliable again. In her case, it's the missing bits which mount up. She will go looking for things which she has just put away and becomes frustrated at being unable to find them. (She put her purse on the bar and moments later wanted to know where she'd left it, almost panicking as she couldn't find it.)

I know a bunch of you have gone through this, so I'm simply lamenting something you have already known...but it's hard nonetheless.

Cris and I are continuing to lose weight. The Lady is down 45 from her high, and I'm off 32. My BP is WAYYY down, and other factors are coming into play in a good way.

Perhaps we can squeeze more comfortably into this here Art Deco table?

For those of you on Facebook I'd highly recommend the Harlan Ellison page. Some very nice posts and notes, generally avoiding the gnomes and trolls who sometimes mess up a place.

Last catch-up note, and it probably belongs more in the Forae than here, but since it will be news to people who don't go "over there", I'm putting it here. I have, on Wednesday, a final interview to take a new position at my company. It will involve a lot more travel -- which I love -- than my current role, and it will likely prove to be a lot more satisfying and less stressful. Keep yer collective fingers crossed.

- Monday, April 22 2013 15:3:10

The motive for my "let's not all go paranoid" comment was, um, inspired by the entire trend of the reporting from the media, which went all over the place, rather than the board-specific entries. (First, a Saudi was in custody, then he wasn't. Then the NY Post ID'ed two completely wrong people as "bag men." And so forth. The journalists behaved like hyperactive children in the middle of a sugar rush. "Get it right? Who cares about right as long as we crank it out as fast as we can!!!!1!")

Your comments were perfectly correct. I apologize if you thought that I was challenging what is, quite frankly, your very reasonable response (and one I agree with): The suspect (yes, suspect) is entitled to a day in court. Real court.

Sorry for the confusion on my part.

Frank Church
- Monday, April 22 2013 14:33:7

Cindy, my progressive ideals seem to be rubbing off. Smile.


No matter what we think of the Boston atrocities, we should not bander the term terrorism about like a dolly with no head. The two boys were criminals, plain and simple.

- Monday, April 22 2013 13:45:46

Here's a photo of Harlan at Chicon 2:

- Monday, April 22 2013 12:21:23


Old chum:

Yes, I met and shook hands with, and chattted with Hugo Gernsback in Chicago at the WorldCon. Of course I knew his rep about cheating writers, everyone did, but I was in high school, a kid, and his schlock tactics were pro forma for publishers in those days; so a combination of naivette on my part, and a general grasping of the "behavior of the day" for sf publishers (actaully, MOST pulp publishers) served to dull any awestruck of the connection on my part. I knew he was the FOUNDER of scientifiction even then. It was, after all, 1952.

How are you these days, by the way?

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.com>
Snowyappolis, Snowasota - Monday, April 22 2013 11:37:31


Oh Paul A. Are you ever queued for a mind rocket! I so want to tell you what to read first, but that ain't my show. My sole regret re: those fabulations is that I'll not get to read them ever again for the first time.

Peace, at least,
Ranger Rick

Mark Simmonds <mark@psybre.com>
Decorah, Iowa - Monday, April 22 2013 11:28:49

Just learned of your accident and wishing you a speedy recovery, Harlan.

On vacation in the Pacific Northwest - Monday, April 22 2013 9:47:35

Happy Earth Day!

Re-reading Harlan Ellison's "Song the Sixties Sang."

TEXAS - Monday, April 22 2013 8:43:14

Thanks-- really, thank you.

Your friend,

oz - Sunday, April 21 2013 22:35:12

P.S. to Cindy
CINDY: Hey, Cindy, I was -- still am -- a bit tired.
Not sure where the "bared out" syntax came from -- guess my mind is a typical as every other males when I'm working on too little sleep. You get what I meant, I hope.

And jut in case you think my love for you as a fellow human keeps me from arguing against anything in which you believe... :)

...thought you, and a few others, might get a laugh out of this


Cheers from Oz,

Barney Dannelke <dannelke@gmail.com>
Allentown, Pennsylvania - Sunday, April 21 2013 20:32:11

Hugo Gernsback
I've been doing a lot of reading about pulp writers of the 1920's-1940's this week as I plow through a small pulp collection I've inherited. Just read some stuff about Hugo Gernsback. I knew Malzberg and other "modern" writers had gone on record regarding his shady business practices and extreme reluctance to "pay the writer." What I didn't know was this reputation was well known back when Lovecraft and Howard were in the game and that Lovecraft called him "Hugo the Rat." Preamble.

Somewhere, somewhere... I have a note that Harlan attended a SF convention in the 1950's that Gernsback was at. I always appreciated the sort of direct line connection. If you ever met Harlan you were one Kevin Bacon step removed from the origin of American science fiction. Etc.

Tonight Harlan, I'm wondering if you have any memory of Gernsback at that convention...60 years ago? Was it a big deal that he was there? Or, was his time so far in the past, even then that maybe he was off to the sidelines? Did his miserly reputation precede him? Or, was this not something on fandom's radar?

- B

Douglas Harrison
Kamloops, BC - Sunday, April 21 2013 19:53:39

Dear Susan:

My order arrived in perfect condition. Thank you.

However, I appear to have used an outdated order form and shorted you on the postage. I'll reimburse you when I mail my next order on the 29th.


Paul A
Front Royal, Virginia - Sunday, April 21 2013 17:52:58

Cordwainer Smith's Greatest Hits
Thought I might mention this here since you folks might appreciate it.

Took the in-laws to the reputed Largest Area Year-Round Flea Market (if, for no other reason, that my wife and I hadn't gone there yet) and among the treasures found there was a near-mint hardcover of THE BEST OF CORDWAINER SMITH. For a dollar. I'm quite pleased, actually. Harlan's raved about Cordwainer and now I get to see what all the fuss is about.

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.om>
Minneapolis, MN - Sunday, April 21 2013 17:35:22

welcome to now

Did anyone else get a surreal something-out-of-a-story-I-may-have-read-in-DANGEROUS-VISIONS sensation while watching events unfold in Boston over the past week?

oz - Sunday, April 21 2013 16:2:29

Note to Cindy
CINDY: I'm pretty sure that any reasonable person understood what you meant with your post -- that, as has been bared out by the incorrect news stories and internet postings, people living in these days of truly instant communication tend to often spread rumor rather than fact. (And I'm NOT saying Alex was one who misinterpreted your words, so Alex, don't take this as personally directed at _you_).

And I wouldn't waste your time wringing hands over anyone who thinks otherwise. If anything, the running commentary on the internet -- at both "news" websites and on commentary boards, even this one at times -- proves that there are a LOT of people who are willing to live with blinders on, as long as they can rub up against someone else with the same "accoutrements" who will enable their willful ignorance.

So don't sweat it.
Besides, any Believer who can put up with my occasional rants about people who still use 2000-year-old books of supernatural teachings as Guides for Better Living and _still_ be as sweet and loving as you (and I know you aren't as fundamental as most others), shouldn't waste her time sparring with mental midgets.

Here's hoping everything is well with you and your loved ones in Baja Oklahoma. :)

All best wishes,
Mr. Niven -- er,

Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Sunday, April 21 2013 14:22:23

Tales From Development Hell
Just wanted to recommend a book in which our host is mentioned:
TALES FROM DEVELOPMENT HELL by David Hughes. It's about film projects that were much ballyhooed but never made... or went through a very, very circuitous and tortuous process on their way to being made into movies.

One chapter is about Neil Gaiman's SANDMAN graphic novels -- and Harlan is mentioned as being a fan of that work. Other chapters are about PLANET OF THE APES, Indiana Jones, LORD OF THE RINGS.
Very fascinating reading.
I'd bet our host has many tales of his own about development hell.

Anyway, it's a good read, so check it out!

Samuel John Klein <samuel.klein@gmail.com>
Portland, Oregon, Republic of Cascadia - Sunday, April 21 2013 13:57:20

Well, John, you have me. I was hoping not to have to air our dirty laundry in public, but since you've mentioned a stain from my sordid past, I, ever the man of equity and fairness, can only point that you are not so pure. I have detailed knowledge of the many times you were charged with flagrantly showing your epidermis in public (quite a set of gams, tho') and the numerous times you were busted for smoking beer.

Now, normally, I don't associate with such ruffians, however my PO has mentioned that my restraining orders have largely expired, except for the ones having to do with stewardesses and anadromous fish, about which the latter I no longer give a Dam, so it's safe for me to be within 3,000 miles of you.

Now all I have to do is unload the counterfeit Liechtenstein miniatures, cleverly disguised as comic book pages, and I'll be all set.

Sam Klein
Repute be illin'.

TEXAS - Sunday, April 21 2013 13:51:59

All I said was he's innocent until he's proven guilty in a court of law.

Not sure where you're comin' from when you post "So can we please put aside all the paranoid stuff?"

The only post I see talking about "secret police black-ops, hit-squad ninjas" is yours. If there's another post that I failed to see that lists that direction can you point it out, please--so I can find it?


Kenneth Stevens <stevens.kenneth@gmail.com>
Knoxville, Tennessee - Sunday, April 21 2013 13:48:45

"And the hippos were boiled in their tanks!"

The link below goes to a news story about a house in Colorado that went up in smoke. It contained 8,000 reptiles of sundry species.


I can only imagine the looks on the faces of the first firemen to arrive when they saw a sticker in the window that said *PETS INSIDE—In case of emergency please save our pets! PS. Don’t forget the pit vipers and boa constrictors!*

Being inside that place while it burned down must have been like the last few minutes of an Alien movie.

Frank Church
- Sunday, April 21 2013 13:9:53

The problem is our whole legal system is an empty bucket and Uncle Sam has an itchy bladder.

Remember the West Memphis 3? Ask the Innocence Project about our legal system--Mumia?

They treat criminals in Norway like Prince Charles and their crime is nil. Those arctic monkeys are onto something.

- Sunday, April 21 2013 12:37:0

Books and bombers
1. Books. I am reminded of PK Dick's novel "The Man in the High Castle." As I recall, the book discusses "wu." That is, the specialness an (otherwise mundane) object has because of its association with someone famous (e.g., FDR's cigarette holder).

When I pick up a 1970s paperback of "Dandelion Wine" or one of the various copies of the Travis McGee novels that I have lying around, there is wu. The computer files may be more convenient, but I don't think anyone will ever pick up a death friend's Kindle and delight in the memories.

2. The Boston bombings. I see that, again, we arrive at a point at which healthy suspicion has morphed into full-blown paranoia. Although it torments me to say it: sometimes, when they aren't busy being brutal, ignorant, cowardly thugs, the police actually do manage to get the right person. Tsarnaev is not only ENTITLED to a fair trial (as mentioned earlier), I would think that the people of Boston would be screaming for it. If you'd been there, would you want some patsy swinging for the crime? I don't think so. You'd want the real criminal to pay.

So can we please put aside all the paranoid stuff? A trial is not just the accusation. It's also the chance to question the evidence. If there were secret police black-ops, hit-squad ninjas, the defense team will raise the issue.

Steve Smith
Los Angeles, - Sunday, April 21 2013 11:43:32

Thanks, Keeney. As it turns out, the artist found it on his own. It was called "Strange Bedfellows," by Thomas N. Scortia.

Jim <jrwsaranac@gmail.com>
Montclair, NJ - Sunday, April 21 2013 5:58:41

forgotten pleasures
It's been a while since I revisited "No Doors, No Windows." The other day I pulled down that gorgeous Borderlands Press hardcover edition and just read, beginning to end. What an amazing experience, to hold such a wonderfully-made book, such an object of beauty, and savor every word within.

Just would not have been the same on a Kindle. These stories are gems.

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.om>
Minneapolis, MN - Sunday, April 21 2013 0:52:7

Steve Smith

try these:

ALIEN SEX Ellen Datlow, ed. (Harlan's in this one.)
OFF LIMITS Datlow again
LOVE IN VEIN 1 & 2 Poppy Z. Brite. ed. (horror anthology)

Steve Smith
Los Angeles, - Saturday, April 20 2013 21:9:46

Hello, all. This is my first post here. I'm doing a little web sleuthing on behalf of a Facebook friend (as distinguished from a real-life, person-I-actually-know friend) who is looking for the title of a late 70s SF anthology. In his words:

"I did an illustration I like (Bantam?) about a collection of erotic short stories written by notable science fiction writers,,,the image I created was the classic calendar pose of Marilyn being assembled on an assembly line..I don't remember the title, and so badly want to recover the illustration I created for my archives."

Thanks for any help.

TEXAS - Saturday, April 20 2013 19:34:17

I think not so fast.

We still need to see the details. What we see from a distance appears to be damning and conclusive.
However, looking at those boys-- hearing the people who knew them speak of their lives up until that horrific moment... the strangeness of their behavior afterward-- leaves me with questions.

Their aunt was very articulate--and appeared to be completely credible.

I think we all need to step back and breathe a little--and remember that by our law the boy is innocent until he is proven guilty in a court of law.

I think we all need to see the evidence and make certain this is all as it appears to be-- before we can get behind popping him like a ripe watermelon.


Hollywood, California - Saturday, April 20 2013 16:19:9

Boston bombing
Interesting... seems that rather than bomb and leave, the brothers hung around and partied. Just dropped back into their regular lives like nothing happened.

Leopold and Loeb, anyone?

Rick Ollerman <rick@ollerman.com>
Littleton, NH - Saturday, April 20 2013 16:3:51

Reply to Marci Kiser
Unfortunately, my experience has been more in line with Mr. Connolly's than your own, with ebook fans seeming to anticipate with glee the inevitable demise of print books. I have difficulty imagining anyone trumpeting the future death of ebooks.

For me, ebooks have a place in the world, just not in my home. A book is a book, an ebook is a computer file, etc. Like Mr. Connolly suggests, the choice is the important thing. There's apparently some current evidence that shows ebook purchases are about a quarter of print book purchases and that that number is leveling off. Perhaps that's the natural ratio right now, perhaps that will change over time.

In a related matter, I saw a recent study that showed that ebook purchasers actually read fewer of the books they buy than do print book purchasers. That may not be very significant since it's pretty easy to load an ereader with cheap/free books but still it's interesting.

Personally, my only fear from ebooks is if sooooo many people trumpet the end of print books that it becomes a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy. I don't begrudge the existence of ebooks but I do have an issue with the "print books will inevitably die like the dodo" mentality. Like the late Dr. Asimov, I believe reading an ebook is a different experience than reading a print book and that this difference is precisely what should ensure the continued existence of print. Ebooks will endure because why should they not?

All in all, I think Mr. Connolly's statement hits more than it misses and that in my own experience, the ebook-thumpers far out-shout the print book lovers.

Marci Kiser <marcik@hotmail.com>
Atlanta, GA - Saturday, April 20 2013 7:58:41

Re: Ollerman on e-books
That Connolly excerpt you shared is interesting to me, in that in my experience the hatred of choice has been the complete opposite. Whenever the subject of e-books vs. tree-books is broached, the loudest voices always seem to be those of the tree-readers, who cite the many intangible pleasures of reading a physical copy of a book they love, the inconvenience and ugliness of an e-book, and a general "Fie on the barbarians for burning Alexandria" attitude. By contrast, e-book readers I talk to love the stories whether they be in tree-book or e-book, appreciate the charms and limitations of both, and frankly couldn't be arsed to decide which format is inherently 'better' than the other.

Tree-readers seem annoyed, even angry, that people now have a choice as to what format they read the stories in, and in making that choice aren't all choosing to love what tree-readers love.

Scott Tipton <stipton99x@yahoo.com>
Los Angeles, CA - Friday, April 19 2013 20:19:45

Robert Morales
I only had the good fortune to meet Robert Morales once, last October when Jud Meyers and I were considering opening a BLASTOFF store in Brooklyn. Robert met us at the prospective site, to give us his opinion on the neighborhood and the potential value of the property as our new place of business. I liked him immediately; the fact that I was told that Harlan and Neil Gaiman vouched for him only supported my initial feelings about him.

As a writer, I had so much respect for him; I still can't figure why his amazing work on TRUTH: RED, WHITE AND BLACK didn't immediately garner him plenty of work at Marvel or DC. But more important, I just sensed he was a good and honorable guy, and the fact that he's gone at such a criminally unfair age strikes me as insanely, brutally cruel. I wish I'd known him better, but I'm grateful I knew him at all.

Rick Ollerman <rick@ollerman.com>
Littleton, NH - Friday, April 19 2013 19:22:43

From John Connolly's newsletter:

A note on this: e-books and printed books perform different functions, and I think people should have some choice in how they read. That's what annoys me most about the e-book purists: the pleasure they seem to take in the perceived demise of the printed book. It's a sign of ignorance, and suggests a hatred of books in general that sits ill on the shoulders of a writer. Whether you choose to read "The Wanderer"... as an e-book or a printed book is entirely your choice. I hope that you enjoy it in whatever format you may decide to use, but the crucial word here is "choice."

- Friday, April 19 2013 16:29:21

Thanks, Doug.


Tony Rabig
Parsons, KS - Friday, April 19 2013 14:42:21

The Glass Teat & The Other Glass Teat
Just fyi, gang. Both Glass Teat volumes are now available as ebooks in the Amazon US Kindle store.

Bests to all


- Friday, April 19 2013 14:25:40

Susan - I don't have this month's SciFi on front of me, but the only Star Trek glassware I see coming from Bif Bang Pow! appears to be shot glasses with retro-design art pertaining to individual episodes (nine different sets of four, due in the May/June time frame). While not on Bif Bang Pow!'s website, they can be seen and pre-ordered from entertainmentearth.com - here's a URL for the page where all nine of the sets can be seen:


Not sure this is exactly what you're looking for (given they're described as shot glasses and not drinking glasses; but there's no sign of forthcoming drinking glasses); this is my current best guess.

Also, while not specifically stated, Set 1 is the set with the "City on the Edge of Forever" glass. The print of the particular art is also in set one of the prints (which are an ongoing series) - see here (in case you weren't aware):


Hope this helps!

- Friday, April 19 2013 13:57:17


Just finished reading SCI FI magazine (June 2013). We saw the piece about the new STAR TREK drinking glasses about to issued by Bif Bang Pow! Has anyone seen them? Know where to get them? I tried the website--no luck. A lead would be great.


Frank Church
- Friday, April 19 2013 8:32:20

Holy God no, Mr. Morales was just here. Since he lived in Ohio I wanted to meet him. I am sick. So sorry on a great loss. He gave us all lots of joy.

All the good are dying. Lord, why??

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Friday, April 19 2013 5:47:46

My condolences to the friends and family of Robert Morales. I only knew him from a few exchanges here and there, but he struck me as a good guy...and we need all of those we can get.

Chuck Messer
- Thursday, April 18 2013 20:31:16

I remember Robert used to hang around here with us yahoos.

My condolences to those who have a Robert Morales-sized hole in their lives right now.


- Thursday, April 18 2013 14:58:18


Mia Wolff called to tell me at an early AM hour. Neil Gaiman tweeted it. Robert Simpson and Ellen Datlow and I separately telecon'd about Bob. Anyone who ever met him made it go viral in an hour. Neil and I just talked; and now the world can cry.

My dear sweet, wise and tough pal, Bob Morales, collapsed and died this morning in New York. Right now, in the lee of Huck's memorial service, I am distraught beyond words. Bob was a one-off, and his wraithlike wonder shall not be seen soon again.

The wind is taken out of the world.


DJ Anderson <djande@gmail.com>
Saint Paul, MN - Thursday, April 18 2013 10:25:26

Robert Morales
Mia Wolff just posted this to Robert's facebook page:

"Robert's father just called me---Robert has passed away--he was one of my oldest and best friends
I'm a wreck
when I find out more I will post
Mia Wolff"

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Thursday, April 18 2013 10:7:30

Today, instead of joining in comicdom and the media's mindless, soulless celebration of corporate greed and treachery, I will be taking many long moments to remember Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, the creators of arguably the greatest super-hero of them all, and all the other comics creators who did not and have not been properly honored and rewarded for their amazing achievements and for the millions of readers their work entertained and enriched. God bless you, Jerry and Joe!

Frank Church
- Thursday, April 18 2013 8:24:59

No Osha inspections at that Texas plant in five years. I'm going to say it, Governor Perry and his ilk are the terrorists as well.

The gun failure and this explosion pretty much seal any reality that gives light to these right wing bugfuckers.

Janet Gamache
Victoria , BC - Thursday, April 18 2013 8:3:17

Angel songs/wild imaginings
one does not
can not
fail to savour
on the
pleasure planet”
So too
made dumb
and emptied of all Truth
but one
this message
beyond the telling)
finds it home.


Strange Wine

Clipping Service
- Wednesday, April 17 2013 15:55:56

In which Patton Oswalt,
not content this week with writing the most moving editorial on the Boston Massacre, now, creates the best thing EVER to emerge from the Star Wars Universe.

Is there NO limit to this man's talent?


- Wednesday, April 17 2013 12:4:57


Jared Hutchinson seems to have moved. Last known address was in Canberra City, Australia. His RH #52 was returned with one of the final 2-postcard free gift we had enclosed for our HERC members. We think these are now out-of-print because of "Sandy". So...the next new HERC membership I receive will get this set of postcards.

Thank you. Susan

Frank Church
- Wednesday, April 17 2013 11:25:13

David Sirota does a Frank Church:


I have to mull this around. Possibly bad tact right now, but that's me.

Kenneth Stevens <stevens.kenneth@gmail.com>
Knoxville, Tennessee - Wednesday, April 17 2013 11:2:30


If one defines a loser as somebody whom the definer simply doesn't like for this reason or that, then you are correct. But that is not the way the world works.

And no, I don't like it any better than you do.

Jim Thomas
Birmingham, AL, - Wednesday, April 17 2013 9:29:13

How NASA Brought the F1 Engine Back to Life


A *fascinating* article about some engineers' project to rediscover how the massive F1 rocket engine worked--For you younguns out there, five F1s were used on the first stage of the Saturn V. The engines were essentially hand-made, and were redesigned on the fly over the course of the Apollo program; as a result there were no definitive schematics available.

One of the more mind-blowing lines: "The power generated by five of these engines was best conceptualized by author David Woods in his book How Apollo Flew to the Moon—'The power output of the Saturn first stage was 60 gigawatts. This happens to be very similar to the peak electricity demand of the United Kingdom.'"

oz - Tuesday, April 16 2013 23:2:52

Note to Kenneth
KENNETH: Sadly, as has been evidenced in recent times, the Nobel may no longer be the highly regarded milestone it once was -- and that loss of true prestige probably settled in a while back (popularity contests, old boy's clubs and all that).

As for losers and winners, I think you're still operating behind the old boy's club yardstick of what makes one a winner (the most toys, ribbons, and so on). I can think of a LOT of world leaders -- two of which recently held the two highest spots in American politics -- who are, no doubt about it, losers.

Go now, and sin no more.
All best from oz,
DTS (Who votes we put a lid on the discussion of what makes a loser, etc., only because there may be folks here who lost a friend, or family)

Kristin <Ruhle>
- Tuesday, April 16 2013 21:55:38

I have been offline and rather out of touch due to personal existential angst and so forth so I actually missed the news. My heart goes out to the dead and bereaved. IT's scary how much damage a few people can do....but the rest of humanaity can and should fight back. Like, remembering that *most* of us aren't sociopaths..

Kenneth Stevens <stevens.kenneth@gmail.com>
Knoxville, Tennessee - Tuesday, April 16 2013 21:19:34


Off the top of my head, I can think of three people that in the not-too-distant past either led or participated in terrorist bombing campaigns, and who then went on to win the Nobel Peace Prize. Two of them in the course of their lives (one died of natural causes, while the other enjoys a comfortable and honored retirement) became heads of state. As for the third man, he not only now runs the second-largest political party in his country but was a Congressman's guest at the 2009 U.S. Presidential Inauguration.

Losers? Hardly.

Terrorism works.

Mark Walsh <mmwalsh4@yahoo.com>
Boston, MA - Tuesday, April 16 2013 16:57:18

Patton Oswalt
Hello Harlan and Fellow Webderlanders,

Could some please get a hold of Patton Oswalt and let him know that he is a force of good in this world. I cannot begin to express how much the short essay that he posted on Facebook yesterday means to people here in the Boston area. When I asked my students today if they had read what Patton had to say, they ALL smiled and nodded -- most with tear filled eyes. His words help us cope.

Please let him know this.

Thank You,
Mark W.

- Tuesday, April 16 2013 16:36:42

Per my coat pocket, I meant Again, Dangerous Visions not Dangerous Visions, Again!

John E. Williams <jwilliams76@verizon.net>
Arlington, VA - Tuesday, April 16 2013 15:17:5


No offense or bother taken at my end. It was an interesting discussion. In light of recent events it's a mere popcorn fart of an incident. I will just say that the hurt in the man's expression hit me pretty hard, and was difficult to shake off, which is probably why I felt compelled to share the story in the first place. All other considerations are moot, at least on my end.

Frank, all I can say to you is good luck -- last time I invited Klein somewhere, it ended up in a tussle involving 20 cops and a good number of showgirls. Further, deponent etc., etc.

Samuel John Klein <samuel.klein@gmail.com>
Portland, Oregon, Democratic Republic of South Cascada - Tuesday, April 16 2013 12:29:10

Hi, Frank.

Your beckoning call tempts me. I shall re-enter the fora, but only at the proper time. Which shall be soon. I must calculate my angle of approach most carefully, as you well know.

Mark Tiedemann? Never heard of him.

A member of the IM force who was caught but not killed. Lucky lucky.

Barney Dannelke <dannelke@gmail.com>
Allentown, Pennsylvania - Tuesday, April 16 2013 9:7:0

Bibliodiscoteque Episode 36 – Harlan Ellison’s The Glass Teat
My friend Erik's 3rd installment dedicated to Harlan Ellison's GLASS TEAT essays and collections has just gone up. Here is the link to the web page, the audio blog and this installment's playlist...


- Barney

oz - Tuesday, April 16 2013 0:41:59

Good Wishes for Everyone's...
HARLAN & SUSAN & ALL the REGULARS: Got too busy to log on and come back to type up this much more important message:

Hoping that everyone affiliated with Webderland, and all their loved ones and friends, were not directly affected by the horrible and absolutely despicable events today in Boston.

Although it may seem simplistic, I think writer John Irving was spot-on in portraying terrorists -- in THE HOTEL NEW HAMPSHIRE -- as basically empty shells -- losers with so little to offer society or so little going on (much like their first cousins, the mass murderers) that they resort to committing these sort of acts (claiming a higher cause) in order to give themselves and their lives (or so THEY believe) some sort of meaning and validation.
Here's hoping that all of you -- as long as you aren't, as I said, directly affected -- don't let this sort of thing stop you from going on about your daily lives without fear or concern, knowing that those in law enforcement agencies will track them down and get justice. Otherwise, the idiot terrorists win.

With solemn but good wishes for everyone's well being, from oz,

Phil Nichols
Back home in Birmingham, UK - Monday, April 15 2013 19:43:47

Pulling a Train review

May not be news, but for the completists, this is a heads-up for a review of PULLING A TRAIN and GETTING IN THE WIND: listed in the table of contents for the NEW YORK REVIEW OF SCIENCE FICTION, March 2013.

I haven't seen the issue or the review, so cannot vouch for its quality. Here's the announcement: http://www.nyrsf.com/2013/04/march-2013-table-of-contents.html

Clipping Service
- Monday, April 15 2013 19:8:30

Our mutual friend Patton Oswalt weighs in....

"Boston. Fucking horrible.

I remember, when 9/11 went down, my reaction was, "Well, I've had it with humanity."

But I was wrong. I don't know what's going to be revealed to be behind all of this mayhem. One human insect or a poisonous mass of broken sociopaths.

But here's what I DO know. If it's one person or a HUNDRED people, that number is not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population on this planet. You watch the videos of the carnage and there are people running TOWARDS the destruction to help out. (Thanks FAKE Gallery founder and owner Paul Kozlowski for pointing this out to me). This is a giant planet and we're lucky to live on it but there are prices and penalties incurred for the daily miracle of existence. One of them is, every once in awhile, the wiring of a tiny sliver of the species gets snarled and they're pointed towards darkness.

But the vast majority stands against that darkness and, like white blood cells attacking a virus, they dilute and weaken and eventually wash away the evil doers and, more importantly, the damage they wreak. This is beyond religion or creed or nation. We would not be here if humanity were inherently evil. We'd have eaten ourselves alive long ago.

So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, "The good outnumber you, and we always will."

Rosemary Connors <rosie3bee@yahoo.com>
Ardmore, PA - Monday, April 15 2013 19:6:23

Steve Barber's Post
Steve Barber, concerning your post today about your friends: I needed to hear love have a louder voice than fear right now. Thank you. Your friends will be remembered in the many thoughts for peace and healing that I am sending out into the universe tonight.

James Levy <susjpl@hofstra.edu>
Syosset, New York - Monday, April 15 2013 16:29:36

Roth and Ellison

I tried to post this in response to the Starry Egomaniac article posted by Jan"

Technically, Roth is a better writer, I think, but you may be right about Ellison's shot at longevity, if a largish independent reading public survives. However, if the only thing left standing in the reading culture is academia, then he is doomed. Ellison's body of work, both fiction and essays, is worthy of a continuing audience. Question is, will such an audience endure?

Anyway, I hope Harlan will take the serious comparison with Philip Roth as a compliment, and find pleasure in knowing that if a reading public is out there, his work will be read.

EU - Monday, April 15 2013 15:6:46

Harlan Ellison, Starry Egomaniac - by Mark Judge for Real Clear Books

Aaron Simon on Web of the City at Bullett Reviews

"50 Girls 50" and Other Stories (The EC Comics Library) includes "a unique curiosity, a strip adapted from a short story submitted by a teenage Harlan Ellison"
The H.E. strip is called "Upheaval!"

JOE WEHRLE, JR. <wehrle1@verizon.net>
Punxsutawney, PA - Monday, April 15 2013 15:6:29

Steve Barber: Yours was a sensitive, insightful essay. A college friend of mine recently reconnected with me, and we've been sending emails back and forth every week or so. We never discussed our personal sexuality at college, but he has told me now that he's had a male companion for quite a while, and really was never able to live the life he dreamed of until age 33. He says he came out then "to mixed reviews." I still read annoying opinions from people who term this "a choice," but I'm certain my friend would not have deliberately chosen to wait until he was 33 for a relationship or to suffer the disfavor of friends and family if he felt he had any choice as to his sexuality.

Something I didn't know about my town's mascot until now: Most of us know that the groundhog has also been called a "woodchuck." Turns out the Delaware Indians believed the groundhog to be the living counterpart of an ancestral being, whom they called Wojak. Some white guys who didn't have their ears open then corrupted "Wojak" to "woodchuck." The old saw, then, might be, "How much wood could a wojak chuck if a wojak could chuck wood?"

oz - Monday, April 15 2013 13:43:10

Note to John, about his anecdote revisited
JOHN: I certainly wasn't trying to -- and, luck holding, don't think I have -- start an argument about mistreatment of animals. That would be like trying to argue about racsim, and all of the subcategories of that topic.

I was merely grumbling about the continuing stupidity of humans,in general. And, yeah, I caught the fact that the elderly black man was saying what he said in a joking manner. I also caught the part where you wrote, "...Liberal-ish looking white woman with a pleasant smile and a jolly demeanor."

And THAT was what I was addressing. The elderly guy may have been old enough to have experienced racism -- I certainly am, and have, and I'm not quite in the "elderly" category -- but he should also be smart and _wise_ and compassionate enough to know that he isn't the only one allowed to have a sense of humor and express it publicly. Like I pointed out: people from social strata -- poor whites -- could easily be offended by the same remark. And my point, which might have been missed, is that we ALL -- black, white, tan or otherwise; 18, 23, 43, 55 or 70 years of age -- should be smart enough and worldly enough, by now (the 21st Century), to stop being kneejerk about it.

Just wanted you -- since you wrote the note -- to understand I wasn't slamming you, or trying to sound racist. In fact, I was bemoaning the state of the American society, and the human race, in general, especially at this stage of our "evolution". As to the elderly man: we'll have to agree to disagree about his responsibility (I think we should _all_ take more, even as we get older -- and that would include how we behave in public -- the woman appeared both jovial and apologetic, so the old guy should have taken her at face value, just as she did in his case).

And, as Mr. Gump once said, that's all I have to say about that (promise)!

Sincere best wishes to you,

Frank Church
- Monday, April 15 2013 12:20:22

This is my second post but this is breaking news:

A bomb or explosion went off at the Boston Marathon finish line. News at this time is sketchy.

Hope this isn't terrorism. Oddly, I quipped about an attack earlier today. No, it wasn't me.

John E. Williams <jwilliams76@verizon.net>
Arlington, VA - Monday, April 15 2013 10:2:23

Anecdote Revisited
Well, first of all, to clear things up about this zoo business: I'm personally not a fan, though DC's zoo is pleasant enough. We were there as a special favor, posing "Flat Stanley" for my cousin's little boy. (Look it up if you don't have kids or don't recognize the reference.) I say this just so we don't have to invite more "animals in cages" debate, which is probably on the way regardless.

Secondly: I think I failed to properly convey that the gentleman's wisecrack about sleeping animals was meant, or at least was conveyed, in a humorously ironic manner. We had all just shoved our way through the Panda exhibit and seen no pandas, and apparently a lot of the zoo's denizens were out of sight or generally inactive that day. I took the man's remark to sum up in a humorous, "joke's on us" fashion the predicament of humans trooping around a zoo and seeing very few animals. I could be wrong. I was not in the man's head. But I was there when he made his remark, and not for one moment did I infer that he was expressing his entitled outrage that the animals were not performing front and center for his amusement. Feel free to debate the whole zoo controversy if you want, but I really don't think this guy should be your target in that regard.

Finally: I do not believe it was or is the elderly man's responsibility to repair race relations by opting to not take offense at dumb and insensitive remarks. His memory is certainly long enough that he has earned the right not to take that kind of shit from anybody.

Frank Church
- Monday, April 15 2013 9:36:46

Klein, I miss you in the forums. We have this new guy, Mark Tiedemann in their and he is really fun to debate.


Tax time. It goes to a good cause. Celebrate.

Viva Maduro.

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.om>
Minneapolis, MN - Monday, April 15 2013 9:25:32

Not to encourage this sort of thing, but...



Steve Barber <barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Monday, April 15 2013 9:4:59

An Essay Written by Rage, and a Bit of Humor for Balance

I am moved to share a short essay I wrote some weeks ago and posted to Facebook. A very good friend of ours is in the ICU going on, now, four weeks. He entered with double pneumonia, then suffered a stroke while unconscious. After three weeks in near comatose conditions, he is again waking for short periods and responding to those around him.

He is gay. He and his partner of 19 years have been strong supporters and friends of ours for ten of those.

His partner, Doug, has for the most part been spared some of the agony of being an unwed partner, but one evening I was so angry at the world I wrote the below.

The response on Facebook has been overwhelmingly positive, though a few of my conservative friends have run afoul privately.

And again, moved to share it here.


I sit here now. In the night. A friend of ours, David, lay in critical condition at a nearby hospital. His partner, Doug, beside himself in fear, in worry. We haven't talked to them...it's too late at night and we don't want to disturb.

But, I have to say it, as much as it might cost me very dear friendships.

In my life I have known friends. I have known loved ones. I am blessed -- beyond words -- to be married to the love of my life. We know other couples, other spouses, who are themselves blessed.

So...why not Doug and Dave? Why not Laurie and Lisa?

I am angry. Beyond words. And scared. David is a beautiful human being. As is Doug. Two wonderful, creative, thoughtful, caring, loving, devoted, amazing friends. We see each other only briefly every few months, but rest happily in the knowledge that they are there.

Doug and Dave. Dave and Doug.

As owners of a local bistro they embraced Cris and her voice. As partners in a local art center they embraced my photography. Doug and Dave. Dave and Doug.

And yet. And yet. There are other friends of ours -- deeply held and loved -- who would deny this couple, these loving souls, equality in the eyes of America. Deny them the same cherished rights I seem to have because my chosen partner happens to be a very beautiful woman instead of a man.

And to my friends, to those who have wormed their way into my heart as loved and cherished, yet unwilling to allow Dave and Doug, or Lisa and Laurie, or Mary and Evelyn, the same freedoms and respect and signature relationship we get to enjoy, simply because God chose to give me a woman instead of a man as a partner. Well, my words don't do justice to the anger I feel towards you at this one moment in time.

You may never see this. You may never care. You may, in some sort of personal righteousness, dismiss me as a friend. But it's your loss more than mine.

Because, my friends, at this moment in time, I bear the pain of a truly loving couple who deserve far better than this. I wish my friend Dave Godspeed and rapid recovery. And I wish David and Doug many years of happiness together.

And to them, I apologize that other friends of mine -- loved, cherished and deeply appreciated friends -- do not have the love in their own hearts to appreciate what Doug and David have found in themselves.

My anger provokes me to strike out, to express the fury...but instead I find myself being mostly sad.

Because two people who have found a love like what I hold for my wife, ought to be embraced. I am a lucky one. As are Doug, Dave, Laurie, Mary, Evelyn, Lisa and very one else blessed with love in their lives.

Marriage, by definition, is the bonding of two loving souls. And damn anyone -- anyone -- who presumes to dictate which souls may be so blessed.

And so I believe.

And the humor:

I noticed that some of Harlan's titles have become a bit dated given his life and the state of the world since they were written. I offer the below updates to some of his classic books, just to make them more timely.


Yeah, not hilarious. It's Monday.

I'm sure yoooz guys can come up with some far better variations.

Samuel John Klein <samuel.klein@gmail.com>
Portland, City of Books, Oregon - Monday, April 15 2013 4:45:57

Earlier tonight I was able to score a very nice copy of "Sleepless Nights in the Procrustean Bed" at Powell's Books, which I am lucky to live in the same city as, and in my obligatory scan of the Harlan Ellison section, which I do hoping to find a hardbound copy of "Approaching Oblivion" at the same time as I have enough spondulix to buy same (they're hard to come by, I guess),I found a book that gave me the cosmic giggles.

There was a copy of a 1972 printing of "Over The Edge" there. I thumbed through it (They wanted almost $40 for it. Who knew these books made such good investments?) and found, in the middle, one of those slick card advertisements for cigarettes I used to find constantly as a young paperback gourmand in the 70s.

It was an ad for Kent cigarettes, to be precise. At least it wasn't Newports, which are even more declasse. It was purveyed from an Ann Arbor, MI store called Wooden Spoon Books, and I thought of one of my favorite bits of essay, "Driving in the Spikes", wherein revenge is exacted for an ad placed thusly in paperback editions of Ellison works, in as much as this was not allowed by contract.

I was surprised to find it autographed, by which observation I mean nothing more than … how very ironic to find such a book autographed.

For what it's worth, I hated those slick little ads, too. Because I hated cigarettes, didn't have a taste for alcohol, and was too damn young at the time to use either legally anyway.



HOU, TX - Sunday, April 14 2013 21:14:54

HARLAN - little birds tell me you have a "novelette" in the forthcoming premiere issue of the magazine PRIMEVAL. Any details? Inquiring wallets want to know.

Morris Treyhorn
Franklin, TN - Sunday, April 14 2013 20:36:7

zoo talk

I think DTS nailed it. And also, people are now bigmouths in public attempting to emulate radio talk show hosts, I believe. And many children are bigmouths nowadays, all the time. That guy was just a self righteous bigmouth, blabbering.

"I work, so I justify my right to go see animals in cages!" We all need some food there, mister. You just work for yours.

"Animals making love"? That's a nice way of saying it!

Michael Rapoport
- Sunday, April 14 2013 20:17:23

Entertainment Weekly on post-apocalyptic movies, with "A Boy and His Dog" mentioned prominently as an influential example of the genre:


Michael S.
Mannahatta, NY - Sunday, April 14 2013 19:26:38

Harlan, I'd like to think that on your floorward flight, you had time to mouth -- accompanied by befitting gestures -- "Nor do not saw the air too much with your hand thus"! No doubt it was a sight to behold, and one that WILL cheer you ever ... once the pain subsides, at least. Meanwhile, it may pay to recall:

"And worse I may be yet; the worst is not
So long as we can say, 'This is the worst.'"

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Sunday, April 14 2013 18:31:45

John’s anecdote
Words do count.

When I first read it, I didn’t get why the elderly gentleman was offended and why the woman was apologetic. I read it again and noticed that the gentleman was black. Oh.

If a white elderly gentleman WAS offended by that remark he would be considered a humorless dickhead because after all, it was just a silly joke, right?

If a black elderly gentleman was NOT offended by that joke, he would be considered less than a man or some sort of uncle tom, considering the context of recent history.

Words do count, and we define ourselves by our reaction to them. This is a clear example of racial tension as it exists in 21st century America.


oz - Sunday, April 14 2013 17:14:22

John's Anecdote
JOHN: Interesting story. Having lived around a woman who grew up VERY "white bread", a woman who used to call her kid monkey-girl and then made the truly innocent mistake of saying that when admiring a black woman's child (you can imagine the reaction), I know can understand how the lady in your anecdote said what she said without thinking of it as an insult.

And, quite honestly, given the fact that we ARE easing into the 21st century, and the fact that a LOT of information is now available (via the internet, TV, library and otherwise) to all classes and creeds, in _that_ particular situation I would've felt most sorry for the woman who was misunderstood. It was OBVIOUS -- to anyone with half a brain -- that she was speaking up humorously for the animals (and if it wasn't immediately obvious to the old guy, then it should've been when she apologized).

Having spent MY life as more of an outsider than most people -- black, white, brown or tan -- and having been abused (verbally and physically) and pigeonholed by just about every race and both genders -- pigeonholed, harrassed and sometimes attacked, for my skin color, social status and otherwise -- I don't think we humans have any more excuses to be as knee-jerk with each other all the time over things said in a humorous moment. Especially if it's a misunderstanding and some sort of apologia is offered.

And especially when the old man in question was bitching because some animals -- locked up for life, oft-times in cages too small for them -- weren't prancing around for _his_ entertainment. And because he automatically assumed that the woman was attacking him because he was black (there are plenty of white-trash people who grow up with the some of the same social stigmas and prejudices), not because he was a typical fucking human who believes, in our supposedly enlightened age, that animals should continue to be treated like chattel. To hell with that and his attitude. If I had been there, I would have said as much.

But that's just me.
The ray of sunshine on the dark and stormy horizon. :)

Cheers from oz,

Michael Miller <orgaladh@charter.net>
- Sunday, April 14 2013 10:7:2

John Brunner
I haven't read too many comments on this author in the Pavillion, but here's a link to a relevant essay on Stand On Zanzibar and 2010.


Enjoy (or not),


John E. Williams
Arlington, VA - Sunday, April 14 2013 7:10:59

An Anecdote
This has no particular bearing on this forum or its recent areas of discussion, but is merely offered as yet another reminder that words matter.

Yesterday afternoon, while exiting the National Zoo's panda exhibit (wherein the famous pandas had been nowhere to be seen) I overheard an elderly black gentleman in the crowd remark "Where are all the damn animals? All they do is sleep, make love, and shit." The rest of us laughed. Then a woman's voice responded "So? That's all YOU do." I turned, hoping to god the owner of that crack was the man's wife or daughter or someone who knew him, but it was in fact a Liberal-ish looking white woman with a pleasant smile and a jolly demeanor and apparently a stranger to the man, who was vastly unamused.

"Hell no," he muttered. "I WORK." The woman's smile froze, as the horrific implication of her joke suddenly dawned on her, and she began sputtering apologies left and right. Yes, she meant it as a joke. Yes,she was just goofing on the usual male cliches. But the elderly man didn't miss for one second the deeper, more awful inferences, and the hurt and anger on his face was not something I will soon forget. Words matter.

Maria Z.
Hollywood, California - Sunday, April 14 2013 2:59:0

Jonathan Winters
Sometimes you get lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time... Mort Sahl's 80th Birthday Party was just such a thing. Thanks to an invitation from Marc Price and another '80s actor that I can't remember (because my brain wasn't built for name retention), I got to sit in the audience for an incredible show on June 28, 2007 with comedians galore (http://www.mortsahlofficial.com/honors.html). It was my one and only chance to see Jonathan Winters live, and an opportunity that I'll always be grateful for.

- Saturday, April 13 2013 18:57:36


No, it was "Hamlet":

"Speak the speech, I pray you..."

Susan attests I completed the address to the players in mid-air, and even completed it on my back. Memory of this amazing feat is imprisoned behind the bars of pain that contained me at that moment.

Further, deponent sayeth naught.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Beth Mac
- Saturday, April 13 2013 16:26:5

"I’ll fight till from my bones my flesh be hacked.
Give me my armor."

Michael S.
Mannahatta, NY - Saturday, April 13 2013 16:1:49

"This push
Will cheer me ever, or disseat me now."

Anyhow, mend well & swiftly.

Paul A
Front Royal, Virginia - Saturday, April 13 2013 14:46:9

The Simpsons Snafu
Harlan, were you, in particular, referencing Macbeth before the accident?

Glad to hear you're all right; I only ended up catching the aftermath--references from others--so didn't know it had bollixed you up.


- Saturday, April 13 2013 13:59:43


The wonders of Advil.

A week after the chair gave way in the Writers' Lair at 20th Century-Fox, and I went skyborne (whilst, s'help me, intoning Shakespeare), I am well enough, haplessly, to attend Huck Barkin's memorial service tomorrow. Several well-wishers, who believe much of the codswallop mythed about me, have asked how much I'll be seeking in damages as restitution for the "Pain and suffering" of having my latisimus dorsi spasmed-out for a week. I have had to smile benignly and point out that not only would it be greedy and uncommonly gratuitous to do any greasy suing of a studio when the event happened in Writer Country, the irony--to my infamy--would not be lost on my Posterity.

No, I'm fine. I ache, but I'm ambulent. After a lifetime of falling off trestles, terraces, boxcars and buildings, I am 60% Silly Putty and bounce well.

But your well wishes are received fully in the spirit with which they were transmitted.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Frank Church
- Saturday, April 13 2013 13:9:24

Harlan isn't dying. Sometimes his jokes die, but humour is a mysterious beast.



Steve Barber <thumbnailtraveler@verizon.net>
- Saturday, April 13 2013 10:39:32

HARLAN -- Very sorry you're still suffering from the tumble. Were you able to raid Susan's painkillers without her notici...um..oops.

(My own back is in spasms today, Susan, so I'm thinking sympathetic thoughts).

Taking control is one of those phrases we often toss around when things feel woefully "out" of control.

I'm interviewing for a new job at work because I'm tired of wondering when and if the old one will ever get better. (The answer, I've decided, is "no".)

Cris and I have been losing weight. Big time, but under medical supervision. I blog about it here (yes, a second blog, effectively doubling my crimes against humanity):


Ben Winfield
- Saturday, April 13 2013 5:53:1


Harlan isn't dying. He had an unexpected (and unwelcome) date with a hard linoleum floor, but he isn't dying...yet.

I'd say it'd take at least another decade to completely knock the wind out of Harlan's sails, and even that's debatable. I'm sure we'll have a more earnest discussion about this in 2023. After all, we've got to be "realistic" (I say out loud with my fingers making quotation marks in the air).

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Saturday, April 13 2013 5:48:0

Phil - congratulations on the presentation! Will you be in the area for a while? I'm recovering from surgery, but would be available to knock back a pint or two if you don't mind drinking with someone who looks like a horror show with a plastic tube coming out of their neck!

Either way, best wishes!

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Saturday, April 13 2013 0:55:28

Harlan Mentioned With Fondness & Respect
This evening I attended a reading to benefit the Carl Brandon Society. They award the Octavia E. Butler scholarship to writers of color attending such workshops as Clarion and Clarion West (not certain about the other workshops). Vonda McIntyre read from her introduction to BLOODCHILDREN, an anthology of stories written by people who knew Ms. Butler, or who had received the scholarship. She spoke of Harlan with fondness and respect, as did two of the other presenters. In particular, all mentioned his influence on Ms. Butler's life, and how grateful they were that he "uncovered her shining spirit and encouraged her creative genius".


Phil Nichols
Temporarily in Riverside!, CA! - Friday, April 12 2013 22:40:11

Harlan discussed by learned scholars...

Just thought I would mention that today, at the Eaton Science Fiction Conference, I presented a paper on the screenwriting style of a certain Harlan Ellison, in a compare & contrast with the screenwriting style of Ray Bradbury. It seemed to be well received.

When I get back to the UK, I will attempt to beef up the paper for publication.

- Phil


Chuck Messer
- Friday, April 12 2013 22:20:31

I looked back and saw Harlan was laid up from the spill he took. Harlan, I hope you're feeling better now. I certainly hope your back wasn't hurt.

Shutting up for a few days now.


Paul A
Front Royal, Virginia - Friday, April 12 2013 18:16:3


I didn't want to just call completely unannounced, but if at all possible, would you be free Monday afternoon for a talk regarding a possible interview to promote 7 AGAINST CHAOS?



Chuck Messer
- Friday, April 12 2013 17:35:3

Alright, let's talk about Mr. Winter's LIFE instead. Even when he was retired, he still entertained. He'd go to the local gas station and perform for the customers there. Imagine standing there, pumping gas, minding your own business when from out of nowhere you're being accosted by Luther Suggins.

No pun intended, but that would have been a gas.


Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Friday, April 12 2013 14:57:14

Jonathan Winters
I think he was one of the most original comic geniuses ever. I got to meet him briefly a few times.
I used to work for "Entertainment Tonight" and once we were waiting to get into a studio to set up for an interview with Winters and Gary Owens. We had to wait around for a half hour or so till we could get in.
So Mr. Winters came out and did ten minutes of material, just for us. I mean, just three of us crew guys. He wanted to keep us entertained.
That was the kind of guy he was.
I'll miss him.

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Friday, April 12 2013 14:8:8

Do we have to do the death thing
over and over again?


oz - Friday, April 12 2013 14:7:28

Petition for historical marker honoring Isaac Asimov
HARLAN (and ALL OTHERS in the PAVILION): In the grand tradition -- trying to be upheld by myself and few others -- trying to keep the topic in these parts OFF of death and dying, I thought you and everyone else in these parts might like to know of this admirable effort (and perhaps want to add their names):


All best from Oz,

Gary Clark <goclark@att.net>
Davis, CA - Friday, April 12 2013 12:33:16

Jonathan Winters
God, another favorite gone. Afraid to look in mirror anymore and
see how old I really am.
Here's a link to very funny film about his art,
Certifiably Jonathan -
It's available on Netflix streaming and dvd.

- Friday, April 12 2013 12:7:11

Jonathan Winters, R.I.P.

Yeah, another really sad loss. This hilarious guy was a dynamite talent, time-honored. I'm glad he had a suberbly full life

Eric Muss-Barnes <eric@ericmuss-barnes.com>
Los Angeles, California - Friday, April 12 2013 11:22:52

What else would you have done?

I've read the interview where you have said you're dying. (http://www.thedailypage.com/isthmus/article.php?article=30610) That pisses me off, because the planet needs a Harlan Ellison for a long time to come and because even though we live within 5 miles of each other, I've never had the honor to meet you and thank you in person for all you have given to the world. As an author myself (I hesitate to label myself one when addressing you - it's kind of like a high school Class President attempting to "identify" with the President of the United States) one of the great privileges of my life was meeting Ray Bradbury... and one of the great regrets is NOT meeting you. (I could have, at the circa 1989 Superman Convention back in our mutual hometown of Cleveland, but unfortunately I didn't know who you were back then.)
Forgive me if you've answered this before, and I just never saw the answer, but I can't help wondering - you have lead a wondrous and enviable life, and if you feel you are nearing the dusk of your days, what is your regret? What would the much-admired Harlan Ellison wish he had done that you didn't get around to?


P.S. Rick, thank you for creating this site. I've made a living for many years as a web designer and if I ever see you at a dinner party, I promise to never, ever try to strike up a conversation about how to improve things. The napkin stays put.

Shannon Nutt <shannonnutt@comcast.net>
Pittsburgh, PA - Friday, April 12 2013 10:40:21

RIP Jonathan Winters (and give me a Good Humor Bar!)
Most of the memories you'll see today will be of his TV work, but the man was one of the BEST stand-up comedians I've ever seen. RIP, Jonathan.

Brian Phillips
McDonough, GA - Friday, April 12 2013 10:13:39

Jonathan Winters, R.I.P.
A great, original voice in comedy is gone.

- Brian Phillips

oz - Friday, April 12 2013 4:57:46

DTS -- Accept No substitutes
HARLAN: It wasn't me asking that question about Herb Kastle, but the information is still a groovy, and informative, thing. Not sure who "DS" is -- I always post with D"T"S (accept no substitutes!) and try to always sign off with "Dorman" when writing a note addressed to you -- or Susan -- since we've shared face time AND manga time, and since you're a friend.

Glad to hear that you're up and about after the tumble on the set of the Simpsons. (I've got a knee injury that's been getting worse of late; and Irving, my four-legged buddy who is MY equivalent of Ahbhu -- Irving is actually smarter than a LOT of the humans I meet, and most definitely sweeter than ALL of them -- has been feeling the same since HIS old leg injury has started to act up; as Bill Clinton would've said, we feel your pain).

As Always, best wishes, from Oz, to you and the Electric one, deep in the heart of Ellison Wonderland,

The Shadow
- Thursday, April 11 2013 22:32:27

Thanks, Mr. Ellison -- and a review of WEB
Thanks for the reply, Mr. Ellison
And in case anyone missed it, just saw this review of WEB OF THE CITY:


- Thursday, April 11 2013 17:59:14

The pirates added to my script on STAR TREK was the "too-many-cooks-in-the-broth" work of a very nice young man named Steven Carabatsos, who was briefly on the writing staff at the show. He later apologized to me for mucking about on teleplay he said he admired as it was. His work on my story was on the misguideded direction of Roddenberry, of course. That was a long time ago.
Herb Kastle was a great guy. I liked his work a lot. We met in New York and continued the friendship out here. I loaned him my best version of the Britannica, and when he suddenly died, which floored me, so unexpected was it, the female he was living with refused to return it, and sold it. That was a long time ago; but I still miss Herb, as I do Huck and Isaac and Bill Dignin and Don Westlake and so many others.
The tumble I took at THE SIMPSONS has had me in bed a week, but I am determined to go to Huck's ceremoney come Sunday. Tim and Andrea Richmond are scheduled to visit sometime in the next week, otherwise all goes as it goes.

Yr. pal, Harlan

- Thursday, April 11 2013 16:4:48

Herbert Kastle
@Steve: have you read any other Herbert Kastle books yet? In addition to his praise for "Ellie," Harlan wrote a great review of "Cross-Country." And he always stood by "Koptic Court" as a great 1950's novel. "The Reassembled Man" is amazing, and is the only Kastle book I know of that has something resembling a following today - I'm curious how much of that following is due to the Frazetta cover art.

And of course, the character named Lars in "The Movie Maker" is based on HE, and I think it's an affectionate homage (or perhaps parody - but man, Kastle sure gave Lars some great lines and a very powerful emotional climax).

Apparently Kastle wrote a great deal of screenplays and teleplays in the sixties, but aside from an episode of "Bonanza" none of this was produced.

He was a great admirer of women, particularly actresses and models, and that comes across affectionately and often romantically no matter how erotic his work gets.

The Shadow
- Thursday, April 11 2013 14:50:0

Just Curious, regarding "The City on the Edge of Forever" and...
I was rereading THE CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER, the White Wolf publication of script and essay/memoir by HARLAN ELLISON, and I found myself growing curious about the element introduced in one Mr. Ellison's rewrites (done on behalf of Roddenberry and his supporters, not because Ellison wanted to do so: it's the one in which the Enterprise Crew become pirates.

Since Roddenberry & Co. didn't use that element in their televised corruption of Ellison's script, has anyone ever pointed out that they DID seem to "borrow" -- I would say steal, but that's me -- the idea from Ellison's rewrite for a later episode entitled "Mirror, Mirror", which was produced in the following, second year, of that show?

Just curious.

Frank Church
- Thursday, April 11 2013 14:48:43

Let's hope the cult of the gun finds the same sunset as the age of Kali.

Chris Campbell <ilchriscampbell@gmail.com>
Maianbar, NSW - Wednesday, April 10 2013 17:5:16

I happen to live in a national park, in a house at the bottom a small cliff, with a garage at the end of an impossible drive-way. Last week I was returning home from work in driving rainstorm and the weir that I cross was flooded over. I drove to the south end of the park and worked my way back home to find my entire floor of my garage flooded with a small river running through the middle. Somehow, in the middle of this chaos, there was a box from the Lost Temple of Mars occupying the one improbable dry patch. Quite the wonderful surprise!

I am so pleased with both books. Thank you for covering the shipping, but at $60+ please let me cover it the next time!

Tom Morgan,
Thanks for always making this easy!


Tony Rabig
Parsons, KS - Wednesday, April 10 2013 16:32:40

Anyone who's busy stocking a Kindle the way it should be stocked will be happy to see that this month will see the ebook release of:

a lot of Ray Bradbury's work -- No Martian Chronicles yet, but The October Country, The Illustrated Man, Something Wicked..., and more

nearly all of Theodore Sturgeon's work -- that extra-lovely 13-volume set of his short fiction will be released on the 9th, 16th, and the 23rd and the novels on the 30th

a whole bunch of Irwin Shaw -- Short Stories: Five Decades was released last month along with several novels, and more novels are coming on the 16th including Acceptable Losses and Voices of a Summer Day

And June will see the ebook release of a large portion of John D. MacDonald's non-Travis McGee backlist.

This may be why God invented the second mortgage...

And bests to all.


Steve Perry <Perry1966@comcast.net>
Beaverton, OR - Wednesday, April 10 2013 16:2:47

Ah, Herbert Kastle ... I did a flashback review of *The Reassembled Man* a few years ago. Ostensibly science fiction, it was another erotic novel, and as a sixteen-year-old when first I read it, the cat's pajamas. Or the ... ah ... cat without pajamas, as it were ...



Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Wednesday, April 10 2013 14:20:22

Ringworld and Childhood's End
Cringe if you will, but SyFy is planning mini-series of RINGWORLD and CHILDHOOD'S END:


Hey, at least someone is doing it... even if it is SyFy.

I was happy to read in the same article that they renewed BEING HUMAN -- that's the only show I watch on SyFy any more.

- Wednesday, April 10 2013 10:42:4


Brian Phillips
McDonough, GA - Wednesday, April 10 2013 10:33:5

Ellison v. Brian Phillips' Socks 163 U.S. 537
Sorry to bring you more bad news, Harlan, but here is the full text of the brief from my socks:

Petitioners are citizens of the United States and residents of the State of Georgia, of mixed descent, in the proportion of seven eighths cotton and one eighth Rayon thread. Petitioners are owned by, and worn about the pedal extremities (see U.S. v. F. Waller) of Brian Phillips.

While listening to LP recommended by Mr. Harlan Ellison, "Stringsville" by Harry Lookofsky, Mr. Phillips reached a certain volatile state as to have his socks "knocked off" by the high quality of the music. Even though the version of "'Round Midnight" and the song "Champagne Blues" are quite fine, the petitioners were left separately but equally crumpled in a corner, in such a state that could only be rectified by continued washings.

Harlan Ellison is being asked, by law of the land, for one, or more, of, the, following:

- A new pair of socks

- A smile after the reading of this brief

- Promise of an online signature for the "Excessive Comma Usage" petition

- Acceptance of gratitude from the temporarily-barefooted...

Brian Phillips

Gary Clark <goclark@att.net>
Davis, CA - Wednesday, April 10 2013 10:14:54

My friend visited Arcosanti in Arizona years ago, and brought me a gift of a brass bell from there. Its chiming of late reminds me of Soleri, and his vision. So many slipping away.

- Tuesday, April 9 2013 19:58:8


He has been an inspiration to me many times over, a lifelong icon. Even at 93 his going is a deadening blow. His like comes our way too infrequently. Stars my come, stars may go, but we get a Paolo Soleri once. Just once. This is sad news indeed. May Arcosanti flourish!


Andrew Rogers <drewrog@gmail.com>
Phoenix, Arizona - Tuesday, April 9 2013 14:26:54

I hate to be the angel of death but...

The Arcosanti Foundation has just announced the death of Paolo Soleri. He was 93.

His experimental community, Arcosanti, continues to be a going concern just north of Phoenix Arizona.

oz - Tuesday, April 9 2013 13:51:17

Harlan's Third Act Continues Unabated
HARLAN: Congratulations on all of the SIN-SAY-TIONAL reviews which have appeared for PULLING A TRAIN and GETTING IN THE WIND, and the paperback republication of WEB OF THE CITY (the latest being the "Book Reporter" review, for "City", posted on this forum). It must be a bit strange to find yourself coming full circle, so to speak, since your first acclaim came with the paperback publication of GENTLEMAN JUNKIE (via Dorothy Parker's review), and now further attention is being lavished on paperback reprints (or, in the case of the Kicks Books items, kinda-sorta paperback repackagings).

And I expect to see HARLAN ELLISON'S 7 AGAINST CHAOS floating high on the "NYTimes" graphic novel bestseller list in a handful of months.

Given alla that, coupled with your "appearances" on "Scooby-Doo" and "The Simpsons", it's easy to see that The Third Act continues unabated.

And all best wishes from Oz, to you and Susan,

ATC <adamcastro999@yahoo.com>
- Tuesday, April 9 2013 10:58:47

I should know my own name, dammit
No; THIS email address.

ATC <adamcasto999@yahoo.com>
- Tuesday, April 9 2013 10:57:52

HARLAN (or Susan, whoever can do this)
When you have a free moment, please send at my email above the proper e-mail address of the appropriate publicist from DC, who may want to see my rave review of SEVEN AGAINST CHAOS at this point prior to publication.

The rest of yez folks: Paul Chadwick and Ken Steacy perform wonders on the page. And so does whatshisname.

Frank Church
- Tuesday, April 9 2013 8:23:38

VOR, I'm putting you on blast schoolyard bully.


Alternet has in interesting article about why so many Americans are ignorant of basic facts, let along logic:


T. Writer <pay@thewriter.com>
- Tuesday, April 9 2013 4:45:4

The Slow Death of the American Writer
Well written!


- Monday, April 8 2013 15:22:30

This is a question for Harlan.

Thanks to the entry in your Hornbook about your friendship with Herbert D. Kastle, I sought out "Ellie," which at the time you thought was possibly his best work, and also possibly the greatest of the "contemporary sex novels." Does that still stand? Has anything of the ilk come close since that you've read?

For the record, I've read "Ellie" twice now and I think it paints a mesmerizingly nightmarish affair, with some of the passages being among the most erotic, intense, grotesque, and beautifully-written of the period. I can't imagine a "sex novel" done better. This should've been a spectacular success & should be hailed as a classic now, but I doubt anybody has read the thing in decades.

By the way, from what I could gather, quite a fascinating biography could be written about Kastle. Are you still in contact with the mutual friends/acquaintances you two shared?

- Monday, April 8 2013 14:0:56

Can Charlton Heston be far behind?
Can Charlton Heston, and Caesar, be far behind?
Just for Frank - 'cause we hate it when our local simian gets upset.


- Monday, April 8 2013 12:56:24

Just received galley pages of SEVEN AGAINST CHAOS. Yee-hah!

Frank Church
- Monday, April 8 2013 10:56:31

Do we live in the Soviet Union? I am actually sick from watching Morning Joe on their actual licking of Thatcher's corpse. "she saved Great Britain." Leaders do not save, they use power for their own interests.

Shall we look towards Sweden, Norway, even more socialist. Are they failing? You can eat off the streets.

Thatcher was evil. Fuck her and fuck the media.


Treyhorn, I take it you are kidding. I am super angry today.

The Shadow
- Monday, April 8 2013 4:29:17

Addendum to last post
Crap! Make that "There is _your_ life..."
Note to self: never try to duplicate a quote after taking pain medication.

The Shadow
- Monday, April 8 2013 4:27:20

Scooby Doo -- and Harlan, too
Saw the episode in question, myself, online, and yeah -- what a wild trip, from pablum to pertinent -- for a cartoon that was once little more than bread and circuses. And, yes, Mr. Ellison did a terrific job, as did the writer.

Speaking of which, if you haven't read anything by him, James Salter comes highly recommended. While I await his new novel, I'm reading his book of recollections, which I missed when it was firs published. Here's a taste from the first few pages:
"He went on and on. He knew intimate details, some a bit mixed up, like a man whose pockets are filled with scraps of paper."


And, on the next page: "There is you life as you know it and also as others know it, perhaps incorrectly, but to which some importance must be attached. It is difficult to realize that you are observed from a number of points and the sum of them has validity." -- (both quotes are from BURNING THE DAYS, by James Salter, Copyright 1988/1997).

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Monday, April 8 2013 4:4:46

Harlan Doo
I watched the episode of Scooby-Doo with Harlan. Our beloved Unca was wonderful as always.

Was this season actually one 26-chapter story? Impressive.


Mark Barsotti <markbeach60@yahoo.com>
San Diego, CA - Sunday, April 7 2013 19:29:25

Web of the City review.


Morris Treyhorn
Franklin, TN - Sunday, April 7 2013 17:45:55

Mr. Church
Dearest sir,

Are there other places on the internet where my wife, my son and I will find your insightful diatribes?

Do you have a blog or twitter handle?

Frank Church
- Sunday, April 7 2013 10:27:52

One of the few times I have ever seen a fair panel on a sunday show. On ABC they had a decent panel on faith in politics. They even allowed an atheist, fancy that.

Not surprising to me, the liberal Christian makes the most sense. lol:


The panel should have been an hour long, but there you go.


Ebert was a great guy, but sometimes his reviews were, ah, interesting. He would up Last House On The Left but hated Blue Velvet.

We are all human, in art and elsewhere.

St. Pete, FL - Sunday, April 7 2013 10:12:7

I meant "near the gutter" not the "spine."

St. Pete, FL - Sunday, April 7 2013 8:56:4

Speaking of DV (To Barney et al.)
I have a first edition (signed). But, when Harlan saw it, he noticed the green endpapers had some fading near the spine. Perhaps due to the acidity? Anyway, he suggested changing it out. If I were to have the front/back endpapers replaced with similiar acid-free green paper, would that affect the value? Not that I intend to sell it, but just wondering. Same with the dj, which has a small, clean tear- should I get that professionally repaired as well (value affected?)

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Sunday, April 7 2013 8:45:31

More on Our Hero, Patton Oswalt...,
I hope you folks were watching JUSTIFIED this season.

The esteemed Oswalt gave jaw-dropping great performances in several episodes.


Barney Dannelke <dannelke@gmail.com>
Allentown, Pennsylvania - Saturday, April 6 2013 17:7:11

Dept. of Oh, Why Not?: Rotsler photo
So, in the process of moving a stack of books from point A to point B (this is my life) I found myself looking at the "photo of the editor" on the interior flap of the dust jacket for the Doubleday edition of AGAIN, DANGEROUS VISIONS. This is credited to your pal William Rotsler and was taken sometime between 1968 and 1971. The backdrop is 42 copies of the hardcover 1st edition of DANGEROUS VISIONS. In frame. There may have been others just out of frame. Given that I've never seen more than 2 copies in the same room at the same time and given that unsigned those go for about $750.00 each these days I have to ask. Were those your remainder copies? Comps? Was that when Rotsler was staying at the house?

It never seemed all that remarkable shot before, but now that it represents about $31,000 dollars in Ellisonalia biblio-porn I thought I'd ask.

ps - nice shirt.

Steve Barber <thumbnailtraveler@verizon.net>
- Saturday, April 6 2013 11:13:53

Happy Weekend

Once again work &^%$ has come between me and this site. Changes are in the wind.

They have to be.

HARLAN, SUSAN - Haven't had a chance to call and, sincerely, haven't wanted to bother you at such a time, but our deepest condolences on the loss of Roger Ebert. We know what a dear friend he was to you and we've been thinking about you both since the news broke.

For those of you who so kindly responded to my Equal Marriage post on Facebook, thank you. Our friend Dave continues to languish in the hospital with little change. We're going to offer up a couple of photographs for sale to help Dave and Doug defray the now considerable hospital expenses. It's a drop in the bucket, but anything we can do to help.

(You can still read my original post here:
https://www.facebook.com/barbergallery/posts/10151367759437205 )


PAY THE WRITER (and painter, and singer, and etc)

Speaking of essays, here's my own little diatribe about the subject, with a link to Unca Harlan's Youtube video.


Have a good weekend folks. It's the true reality of our lives, not that other stuff involving income.

St. Pete, FL - Saturday, April 6 2013 5:21:15

Just watched the episode, commercial free:

EU - Saturday, April 6 2013 2:9:38

A.V. Club/The Onion review of Scooby-Doo!: Mystery Incorporated - “Through the Curtain”/“Come Undone”
I can't wait to see and hear it.

Short review of Web of the City -- http://retrenders.com/2013/04/05/web-of-the-city-by-harlan-ellison/

Read at own risk: Some background about Cutter's World (the unproduced script), mixed with dirty laundry: E is for Harlan Ellison, Who Called Me a Nazi (Beverly Grey)

I guess Harlan's legendary temper is more important than an explanation about why exactly she had to do what she did?
I always checked out Roger's reviews or at least the star ratings before I went to see an American film. Apart from his books he leaves behind his amazing website which now has a memorial section: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/
Have a fine weekend everyone.

Jim Argendeli
- Friday, April 5 2013 15:25:48

Hi Harlan,

Cindy and I (and Evangelia) just watched your Scooby Doo Mystery, Inc. episode. Just how ar is Crystal Cove from Miskatonic University? What classes is Scooby going to take?

Hope you and Susan are well.


JOE WEHRLE, JR. <wehrle1@verizon.net>
Punxsutawney, PA - Friday, April 5 2013 15:0:35

So much sadness and loss of very good people reported here of late. I guess a lot of us who visit this site have reached the age where we will regrettably lose a parent, a sibling, a beloved companion or a treasured associate. But I think these losses make us feel more vulnerable as we get older, too, occasionally looking over a shoulder to ascertain that the ground isn't giving way or the sky falling. I only had one girlfriend my entire life, and I had her for 44 years. That will likely be it for me in the romance arena, although I'm keeping up appearances just in case.

Semi-fame: I closed down my portrait site a while back, but somehow I have a bunch of portraits to do now, anyway. One guy from the UK who wanted autographs for the Arkham House books I illustrated found me through a place that allows you to view defunct sites. He may also want author portraits for those books. I won't complain, I can use the money after the winter gas payments, and it's good to be noticed.

- Friday, April 5 2013 13:35:36

I am utterly saddedned by Roger Ebert's passing. Gone is another era. There will never be another Siskel & Ebert. As a duo they were one of a kind; as individuals they were one of a kind.

I knew about Roger's condition but I kept hoping this day would be a long way off yet.

Travis Yoder <travis.yoder@cbre.com>
Los Angeles, California - Friday, April 5 2013 12:22:47

My fifty-fourth post here

Given his passing, I must recommend--to any here who've not already enjoyed it--Roger Ebert’s THE GREAT MOVIES, his splendid re-reviews of the finest examples of the cinematic art, randomly chosen. Here he not only illuminates us on why the ‘greats’ are so great, he does so in his breezily enthusiastic style, like one of your most thoughtful and likable friends over for dinner. Moreover, he shows us how to watch movies, which is not necessarily to note every artistic nuance or to suss out every motive of the filmmaker, but to relate the events of the movie and the tone with which they’re presented to our own lives. For example, when he re-reviews Federico Fellini’s “La Dolce Vita”, he relays what he thought of it upon first viewing as a young man, then how it struck him many years later as a seasoned adult, and finally his feelings about it upon a third viewing from the vantage point of age. Each time, his reaction is different--valuing some elements over others, recognizing some emotional urgencies as more relevant to him than others--yet each time he loves the film and acknowledges its mastery and magnificence. And with “E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial”, he fashions his re-review as a letter to his grandchildren, assuring them that their visceral, emotional, and moral responses to the film are the same as we all felt when we first saw it upon release, and thereby he uses cinema to help bond disparate generations. Other times, he offers the most simple salience, as in describing “Singin’ in the Rain”--a film with borrowed music, a tenuous narrative throughline, and scattered themes--as being the greatest of musicals because it is simply “the happiest film ever made”. How clear. How straightforward. How inescapable--once someone with the right gift for words states it plainly. YOU WILL LOVE THIS BOOK! (And there are two sequels!)


- Friday, April 5 2013 11:2:56

HARLAN: The United States Postal Service appears to have failed us, for all I have seen this week is junk mail. Wanted to let you know.

60+ Ellison works online as RTF, TXT and HTM files here:

A more modest 28 Ellison works as PDF files at:

Los Angeles, - Friday, April 5 2013 10:59:34

Our Hero, Patton Oswalt,
will be appearing ALMOST EVERY THURSDAY in Los Angeles between 5/2 and 7/11 at THE FAKE GALLERY, 4319 Melrose Ave. (at Heliotrope).

All details here:

Frank Church
- Friday, April 5 2013 9:52:34

We should remember them at their best: Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel at the National Press Club talking about violence in films and other things like the best and worst of films today:


Ebert's critique of Pulp Fiction is so wow. Siskel says that box scores for films should not be printed, because the best films are at the bottom of the list and the worst at the top. Amen.

Vox Clamantis in Deserto
- Friday, April 5 2013 9:35:0

Obama Economy

People Not In Labor Force Soar By 663,000 To 90 Million, Labor Force Participation Rate At 1979 Levels


Mark Barsotti <markbeach60@yahoo.com>
San Diego, CA - Friday, April 5 2013 9:24:9

Sorry for...
...the double post, but had to give props to Harlan for completing his voiceover for the Simpsons. And, more importantly, surviving the ancient, rickety old swivel chair (paging the Pythons!).

My Best to All,


Mark Barsotti <markbeach60@yahoo.com>
San Diego, CA - Friday, April 5 2013 9:19:50

Thanks Adam...
...for the Onion link. They struck exactly the right tone. RIP, Roger. You will be missed.

And RIP to Carmine Infantino. Another giant leaves the scene.

Adam-Troy Castro
- Friday, April 5 2013 5:18:26

The ONION on Ebert
The ONION, which despite being a bastion of bad taste often knows precisely what to say at bad times (witness their coverage of 9/11 and the Newtown shootings), knew precisely the best thing to say about the death of Roger Ebert. This is, mind you, still a parody article. But watch how in only one paragraph they transform grief into joy.


Mark W. Tiedemann <mwtiedemann@earthlink.net>
St. Louis, MO - Friday, April 5 2013 5:12:9

Somewhere in in my house I have a copy of the Smithsonian from 1977 with a full page ad for the forthcoming OMNI magazine---only it was going to be NOVA magazine, not OMNI. I subscribed. In advance. To NOVA.

I kept that subscription until it became too weird to take seriously, with all its UFO nonsense and other fringe nonsense. For a time it was a very good magazine.

- Friday, April 5 2013 4:36:53

For anyone can use a laugh -- and who couldn't these days?

A Guy Walks Into a Bar...


Richard Halasz
- Friday, April 5 2013 3:46:32

There are those who bring us wonder.
"There are no guarantees. But there is also nothing to fear. We come from oblivion when we are born. We return to oblivion when we die. The astonishing thing is this period of in-between."
~ Roger Ebert (1942 - 2013)

Beautiful Northridge, CA - Friday, April 5 2013 1:8:11

More on OMNI....
Sorry, I know this is my 2nd post in a 24-hour-period, but I'll use my I'll-exile-myself-for-a-few-days card as punishment.

As an addendum to my earlier post, below is a YouTube link to that original OMNI commercial I saw back in 1978. It has that trippy music I remember, including shots of two striking H.R. Giger paintings I would later see again in his NECRONOMICON. (Unfortunately, that opening painting by some other artist now makes me think of Ridley Scott's crapfest called PROMETHEUS, but ah well....)


Tim Derrick <t44s77@msn.com>
Imperial, CA - Friday, April 5 2013 0:43:34

I am so sorry Roger Ebert passed away. I'm sorry for all of us who loved him.

the Shadow
- Thursday, April 4 2013 23:54:11

Condolences regarding Roger Ebert
Didn't read -- with clear eyes -- all of the comments on the board.
Condolences to Harlan -- and anyone else who knew him -- regarding Roger Ebert.

the Shadow
- Thursday, April 4 2013 23:51:7

Over heard conversations...
Le, I'm 99 percent sure that last quote was from a movie, or a trailer from a movie -- I just saw it, in fact. Damned if I can recall the title a the moment.

Beautiful Northridge, CA - Thursday, April 4 2013 22:37:32

Great article on OMNI with a Harlan Ellison mention

1978--How clearly I remember it again. I was living in the sh*t Texas town of Bryan-College Station, and then later that same year moved to the even sh*ttier town of Temple (inbred sons of b*tches). I remember going to the newsstands regularly to check out the new issues of OMNI. I bought that November issue with the striking H.R. Giger illustration on the cover.



Thanks, Mr. Ellison, for what sharing what went on today.



Overheard in a bar recently...

"Does Big Sur really have a fashion show???"

"That guy on the ten-dollar bill--I think he's sooooooooo HOT!"

"Having a beard is the new not-having-a-beard"

"Led Zeppelin ripped that song off from Muddy Waters, man."

And my favorite...

Woman to man: "I'm not sure there's a connection. Let's just start off with a blowjob and go from there,"

Diane Bartels
- Thursday, April 4 2013 22:2:59

I am so sorry for Mr. Ebert's loss. Condolences to you on the loss of your friend. I am also so sorry you are in pain. God bless you, and Mr. Ebert. Wish I could help some way

Chuck Messer
- Thursday, April 4 2013 21:51:0

Roger Ebert, etc.

Roger Ebert: Well, shit. Cancer the Thief comes stealing in again.

Harlan: Congratulations on the Simpsons gig, and condolences on Mr. Ebert's passing. Even when besieged by morons responding to his essays, he was ever the happy warrior.


- Thursday, April 4 2013 20:56:3


Susan and I went down to 20th Century-Fox Studios noon-ish today (whereat I worked, off and on, for roughly 12 years) to record my lines for the upcoming appearance on THE SIMPSONS--Harlan Elison appearing as Harlan Ellison, a scene with Milhouse and the Comic Book Guy--and apparently did a sizeably satisying job. They troted me around in the style of a Prince From A Far Land; I gave interviews; did the required pr photo shoots; reentwined antennae with Matt Groening after 20 years; met Al Jean and all the writers; had a long bout of prandial racontourage at the 20th Commissary; then went to the Wriers' Dungeon to reminisce with the six current senior scribes: ah, the days of big money at Fox; what was Philik K. Dick really like? How did I meet Susan, tell us simply everything;
was it true there was a secret tunnel from the old Execuive Building, running underground, all the way beneath the lot to Mariyn Monroe's cabana so Darryl Zanuck could slip off, unbeknownst, for a dalliance at his whim? did I know that Patton Oswalt was the one who got Matt Groening to fulfill his 20-year-old promise to have me appear as a guest cameo on the show? And on and on. Great interlude.

Then one of the the ancient, rickety old swivel chair they use to furnish the Writers' Enclave, in which I sat extolling, tipped me over with a crash, hurtling me assoverteakettle, onto the linoleum. Maximum fucking pain, everyone in panic,

It was A nifty voyage, a Posterity-evoking interlude, a swell buncha FoxFolks, but I got back here with two anguishments: 1)I'll be in excruciating pain for a week at least...and learned that my heartbreakingly beloved chum Roger Ebert had gone away, despite all his heroics. It has been more than a day to remember, all.

And now, back to my bed o'pain. With anguished acuities and joy,

Yr. Pal, Harlan

TEXAS - Thursday, April 4 2013 20:54:46

I'm so sorry Harlan,
I know you love Mr. Ebert.
What a beautiful man. I wonder what Gene Siskel said when he saw
him coming.


Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.om>
Minneapolis, MN - Thursday, April 4 2013 17:13:54

A radio personality yesterday referred to Roger Ebert with words I needed to hear: "National Treasure." Indeed.


Doc <drdespicable@gmail.com>
Los Angeles, CA - Thursday, April 4 2013 17:4:32

Harlan: My condolences on Roger Ebert's passing. What a splendid man!

Susan: My apologies re: the delay on MINDFIELDS. Apparently, I'm about to have cataract surgery, so I've been somewhat distracted. Thank you for your seemingly-inexhaustible patience.

My love to you both!

Barney Dannelke <dannelke@gmail.com>
ALLENTOWN, Pennsylvania - Thursday, April 4 2013 16:50:28


Mike Cane <mikecane02@yahoo.com>
NY, NY - Thursday, April 4 2013 16:7:14

French want to steal Harlan's work
Harlan, I don't know if you're aware of the legalized theft of books happening in France. But some research from a colleague uncovered that one piece of *your* work in on the list to be legally confiscated. Specifically, the short story "One Life, Furnished in Early Poverty" (still my favorite latter-day Twilight Zone episode!).

Since I can't post a link to anything, here's the post title to call up via Google for further information: "Harlan Ellison, Ursula K. Le Guin Among Award-Winning Writers On French “Copyright Theft” List."

John E. Williams
Arlington, VA - Thursday, April 4 2013 16:0:23

Harlan, I know Roger Ebert loved you dearly. Sorry for your loss.

Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Thursday, April 4 2013 15:56:19

Condolences on the passing of Roger Ebert
A brave, brave man. A great writer (a Pulitzer Prize, too). I didn't know him personally, but I watched his show from way back when it was on PBS stations. He's left a great body of work. I just raised a glass to him. Wish him well on his journey beyond.

Steve Perry <perry1966@comcast.net>
Beaverton, OR - Thursday, April 4 2013 15:55:29



Travis Yoder <travis.yoder@cbre.com>
Los Angeles, California - Thursday, April 4 2013 15:11:18

My fifty-third post here

Needed to check in and commiserate over this very sad news. I think 70 is too young.

The pity is that most folks only think of ROGER EBERT as one of the “Thumb’s Up/Down” guys and don’t know why he got the Pulitzer Prize: his splendid writing! He was no great film theorist or scholar even, and his taste tended as much toward populist as elitist. But he wrote about film in a way that no one else did. His style was deceptively conversational, straightforward, plain even. But that’s how he engaged the reader so intelligently. He didn’t alienate anyone by trying to impress them overmuch with his superior cinematic knowledge. And he always understood that film--and all art--is UTILITARIAN! It is not mere diversion. Its purpose is to lead us into new perspectives and help us process our lives. He wrote about how the movie he’d seen made him feel and reflect on his own experiences, thereby inviting his readers to do the same.

He brought criticism down to Earth, where we all live. I will miss him.

Rest in peace, Roger,

- Thursday, April 4 2013 14:31:37

the day continues to suck
Carmine infantino, I hear.

- Thursday, April 4 2013 14:31:3

the day continues to suck
Carmine infantino, I hear.

Ben Winfield
- Thursday, April 4 2013 13:54:33

Oddly enough, it's not Roger Ebert's positive reviews that I'll remember the most, but rather his scathing take on KICK-ASS. Ebert perfectly articulated everything that was loathsome and hateful about the movie, bringing down the wrath of the same kind of crowd that horrified Harlan in THE THICK RED MOMENT, albeit an online version. He was dismissed as a prudish old fogey. If that's true, I might as well grab a train for the nearest Amish village too.

The hell with "rest in peace". Roger would never allow himself to be "at peace". He's alive out there somewhere. And I'm going to find him.

New Jersey - Thursday, April 4 2013 13:45:28

A Gentleman and a Scholar
Terribly sorry to hear this - Mr. Ebert was one of a kind.....
May his suffering be at an end.

Lovely tribute here:

Crap...such a loss....

Michael Rapoport
- Thursday, April 4 2013 13:27:0

Rest in peace, Roger. That he was a magnificent film critic goes without saying, but especially toward the end of his life he also emerged as a wonderful writer and thinker on just about any subject you could name, from politics to travel to his own health travails. Harlan, my condolences to you on the loss of your friend.

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Thursday, April 4 2013 12:51:35

Could this day get any fucking worse?

We lose Roger Ebert, who you all know, and we also lose the great Archie Comics writer George Gladir. George was a clever, impish hard-working writer who did his work with clean hands and honest heart...and who did me a number of kindnesses over the years. I will miss both these men more than I can express.

Shannon Nutt <shannonnutt@comcast.net>
Pittsburgh, PA - Thursday, April 4 2013 12:50:2

Farewell, Roger
One of the two men that inspired me to become a writer has passed. Harlan, you're the other one - stick around for a while, will ya?

My heart goes out to the Ebert family. I never met Roger, but I had the chance to exchange some emails with him over the years. He will be missed.

Adam-Troy Castro
- Thursday, April 4 2013 12:49:17

Roger Ebert
Roger and I had a bit of online interaction, some time after online became his social lifeline; among other things he let me know he appreciated my vehement defenses of him after he became snowed under with a tidal wave of moronic hate mail because of something he'd written I found him a terrific writer on the subject of film, and later on politics, and found him an inspiration before his life circumstances made him also "inspirational" against his will. I am deeply upset by this, but I cannot say I have the same claim to personal upset that Harlan has. Condolences to all who knew him.

Alex <alex.dering@gmail.com>
Brooklyn, NY - Thursday, April 4 2013 12:43:3

Sad news
Sorry everyone. The New York Times is reporting that Roger Ebert has died at 70.

There are no words.

Alejandro A. Riera
Chicago, Il - Thursday, April 4 2013 12:42:27

R..I.P. Roger
Damn, damn, damn, damn:

Roger is gone:


Brian Siano
- Thursday, April 4 2013 12:10:18

If you love Isaac Asimov's work and live near Philadelphia...
... the local paper _Philadelphia Weekly_ and photographer Kyle Cassidy are organizing an initiative for an historical plaque in honor of Dr. Asimov. He spent three years in West Philly, 1942 to 1945, writing many of the stories that made up _I, Robot_.

The first step is demonstrating popular support, so there will be a flash mob at Barkan Park, 50th and Spruce, at 4:30 this Saturday.

So if you're local, and love Asimov's work, c'mon down. Info's at http://www.geekadelphia.com/2013/04/04/join-us-for-a-geek-flash-mob-photo-this-saturday-to-support-an-issac-asimov-historical-marker/

Frank Church
- Thursday, April 4 2013 9:26:5

While we laugh at Ann Coulter and Dr. Laura we get duped by the likes of Al Sharpton and Rachel Maddow. The Obama liberals are the ones who always play lefties for profit and are used to damn the radicals who tend to state the actual truth--looking into the breech and seeing what drifts from the dank.

Laugh at the idiots all you want, but the smart people are cutting our throats.

- Wednesday, April 3 2013 23:13:24

note to Passerby
Sorry...these blonde-haired, venal-minded, self-righteous and heartless/rightwing wenches -- Ann Coulter, Megyn Kelly, Gretchen Carlson, etc. -- are not only sounding alike, they now have names which are so similar -- Laura Schlesinger, Laura Ingraham -- it's even tougher to tell 'em apart. Women o' the corn! Ahhhhhh!

- Wednesday, April 3 2013 19:47:48

typo fix
... staRted callING herself ...

- Wednesday, April 3 2013 19:36:56

Has Laura Ingraham stated called herself "Dr"? Even if she has an "honorary" degree from somewhere, Ms. Schlessinger might have a problem with that.

(Didn't watch the clip in question -- I'm just wondering why you are calling her that.)

- Wednesday, April 3 2013 12:16:12

Fundamental Frank
Frank, either you're a secret fundamentalist or your understanding of the clip you watched -- between O'Reill and "Dr." Laura is hindered by a fundamental flaw in your hearing. There's only another nonsense-filled argument on the tape I saw. Worse, it's all about one Rightwing Idiot -- "Dr." Laura -- not agreeing with another, louder-mouthed, Rightwing Idiot, because he thinks she misquoted him. No sanity to be found there.

Bob <Bob.Masson@gmail.com>
- Wednesday, April 3 2013 12:3:38

to say hi
Mr. Ellison,

I read "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream" years ago, shortly after published. All I could say is "Wow," and hyperventilate one quick breath; beautiful, thank you. I'm in a college class on disabilities and referred my mates to a short story about computer imposed disability and dependence. It's been this long and still remember (through the fog), and hope a whole new bunch picks up on you, now. Cheers, Mr. Masson

EU - Wednesday, April 3 2013 11:17:49

Harlan in Los Angeles Magazine reading list

Frank Church
- Wednesday, April 3 2013 8:10:30

I'm just sick about Ebert. Such a great guy and the bad luck dark cloud keeps following him. Cancer is such an evil thing. Where the fuck is the cure?


America is getting much more sane on guns. Instinctive progressiveness is internal to the American psyche.

Even O'Reilly is sounding sane:


Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Wednesday, April 3 2013 8:2:57

Roger Ebert
More sad news: Roger Ebert's cancer has recurred and he's getting radiation treatments -- and also taking a leave from writing for a while:


Jeff R.
Phila., Pa. - Wednesday, April 3 2013 6:39:42

Food for Thought, from John Simon's Blog:
"While all other minorities have their champions and victories, the only American minority that is either despised or ignored is the intellectual."

Or, as most of my co-workers would say, "What da f--- you talkin' about?"

Andrew J. Wilson <ajwpublishing@gmail.com>
Edinburgh, City of Edinburgh - Wednesday, April 3 2013 4:36:30

Iain (M.) Banks
Bad news: eminent Scottish author and science-fiction writer Iain (M.) Banks has late-stage cancer and is withdrawing from public life:


Iain's thoughts can be found here:


There is absolutely no upside to this for anyone -- he is a giant of Scottish letters and a titan of SF.

On a personal note, I've known him for many years and interviewed him several times. The last piece I wrote relating to him was a review of his most recent SF novel:


I will not be writing his obituary. I couldn't bear to do it.

Damn it, damn it all to hell.

Frank Stone
Stockton, CA - Wednesday, April 3 2013 2:26:22

A quick reminder for any interested parties
To reiterate the information Harlan obtained from Scooby-Doo producer Mitch Watson (for which many thanks): This Friday, April 5th, will see the return of Harlan's animated alter ego to the Scooby-Doo milieu, during the final two episodes of SCOOBY-DOO: MYSTERY INCORPORATED. 5:00 and 5:30 p.m. ET on Cartoon Network!

Steve Barber <thumbnailtraveler@verizon.net>
- Tuesday, April 2 2013 15:48:38


So, I'm like days late and several dollars short, but I too got a very cool package in the mail. For some reason the cover of the paperback SLEEPLESS NIGHTS IN A PROCRUSTEAN BED really appeals to me.

And the insides of the thing are terrific as well. Don't know why I never had this in the collection.

And thank you, Harlan, for the wonderful inscription. Means a lot to both of us.

Cris got the clean bill of health from her second eye surgeon. He's very pleased, and everything looks peachy keen for my little lady.

Thank you to everyone who has been concerned, both privately and publicly.

For anyone who has not visited the Forum lately, there's been a very nice change of mood and content. Tim Raven started a terrific thread for poetry and other thoughtful prose, and the rest of the ongoing debates have become much more rational and reasoned.

Might be time for you who fled to come back, and you who lurk to sign up!

My travel-related posters appear to be a hit. I've gotten a lot of wonderful and supportive feedback and may consider making it an official "line" of products instead of simply a promotional tool. Below is a link to two sets of them, and any (constructive) feedback would be appreciated.



shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Tuesday, April 2 2013 15:20:56

SHADOW: While the article is written for the masses and lacks science (I don't even think it brushes shoulders with science), it is interesting. I don't agree with the doctor's hopefully humorous claim that it's "bad news" for the men in the room, it's not the first time I've heard an argument of this type.

What strikes me is how this relates to my previous job in an early intervention center (worked with kids from birth to 3 yrs. old). Once a month we had a developmental pediatrician come in to see kids and speak with staff. During one staff meeting, he talked for 45 minutes about men being the "weaker sex" genetically. Apparently the Y chromosome is much more susceptible to mutations or damage that can lead to syndromes.

I had a big problem with this. It sounded kind of sexist, and not in a good way. Turns out it's not. He went on at length about the science behind this genetic fact. He didn't go so far as to say that men would eventually become "extinct", but he did wonder how long it would take before the Y chromosome is no longer viable genetic material.


- Tuesday, April 2 2013 15:5:1

Oops, already resolved...

eu - Tuesday, April 2 2013 15:4:11

Sven said on Tuesday: "Harlan, if you would be so kind to inscribe the book to me that would be great."

- Tuesday, April 2 2013 15:2:59


Susan's request: I am to tell you, "Thanks for reminding me; I have the brain of a rabbit."

I have no commet. -he

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Tuesday, April 2 2013 15:2:25

I meant to post this here yesterday:

April Fool's Day is for the weak-minded unwilling to make a year-round commitment to the lifestyle.

Tom Morgan
Silverado, CA - Tuesday, April 2 2013 13:2:13

Mini Purge
On 3-26 Sven posted that he would like Harlan to inscribe the book to him. Perhaps more importantly on 3-27 you posted that his order was already on its way. That is why I referred to you as a "trusting soul", because I knew you did not have the payment yet, but Sven had told you that he had wired it to me. So you might want to count your copies, you may have already sent one to Sven.

If not he does want it inscribed to him.

All the best to you and the hubby.

- Tuesday, April 2 2013 12:12:51


Dear Tom & Sven:

Tom: Thank you, the check arrived today.

Sven: Do you want the book personalized to you? Let me know either at the board or via Tom.

Thank you.


the Shadow
- Tuesday, April 2 2013 11:55:52

Fascinating development
Had a discussion with a good friend, last week, about this absolutely FAScinating development. Anyone else here read about it? Any thoughts on what will eventually replace the (apparently) replaceable gender?


Steve Barr
Overland Park, Kansas - Tuesday, April 2 2013 6:49:46

Just a word of thanks to Susan and Harlan for placing such a beautiful copy of Repent Harlequin Said the Tick-Tok Man into my care. Just FANTASTIC and GORGEOUS!!!
Thank you also Unca Harlan for the cryptic inscription. :-}
"To Steve. You're on the clock Kid."


Wyatt Doyle <NewTextureMail@gmail.com>
Los Angeles, CA - Monday, April 1 2013 16:16:27

Reply to “Office of the Obvious”:

First things first: Although it’s our book, this was Dangerous Minds’ contest, and I’m grateful for their support in helping us promote WEASELS RIPPED MY FLESH! I can tell you from hard experience that for a small independent press, that kind of generosity is hard to come by. I thought DM’s Marc Campbell hatched a fun idea for the competition, and I got a lot of laughs out of the entries (though HE’s “Ants Assailed My Anus!” remains my personal favorite - the man is a professional, after all).

So while I have no direct information regarding how winners were chosen, it seems evident to me the winners were the top “upvoted” entries (the box for each comment includes up and down arrows, enabling readers/other commenters to vote “up” or vote “down” each comment in the thread). As the term suggests, “upvoting” moves the comment up in the list; “downvoting” moves in down. The winning entries are also the entries that garnered the most “upvotes” from the DM readership, so those entries would naturally be at the top. That the winning entries were all posted on the same day appears to be a reasonable coincidence; the first day of the contest saw the most entries posted.

To say the contest winners were the first three entries is simply not accurate.

(And yes, entrants *in competition* (versus folks posting as a goof) were required to register for the DM newsletter in order to qualify; that’s stated clearly in their contest rules.)

But I do appreciate your enthusiasm, and I would like to thank all the Webderlanders who DID participate. So...if you entered the DM contest but DIDN’T win a book, get in touch with me at the email address at the head of this post. You tell me your handle in the DM comments and which title(s) you entered in the contest and I’ll give you a coupon code for Amazon that’ll shave 20% off WEASELS’ cover price from through the month of April.

...And with spring upon us, for God’s sake, let us all remember to mind our anuses at the picnic grounds!

Mark Goldberg <markabaddon@gmail.com>
Eagan, MN - Monday, April 1 2013 14:10:35

Article on Web of the City over at Gamma Squad:


Also, Avril is my new favorite poster


Frank Church
- Monday, April 1 2013 12:29:53

Matt Taibbi is no chicken little. His latest story in Rolling Stone about the 3-strike laws, started in California, will chill your blood:


Bill Clinton comes off as pure evil. Shame on the liberals for not giving money to those fine blokes from Stanford. They are doing noble work. I actually hope my peeps here will send them money.

Life in prison for stealing socks? Fucking crazy.

- Monday, April 1 2013 9:33:56

Ravenistic reply
Tim, eeew.

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Monday, April 1 2013 1:16:34

Avril – the news of your farce whips my neck into a targeted notice. May I sit next to you during the debut?

Tim Raven

Avril <far@ceur.com>
- Sunday, March 31 2013 22:29:55

Ellison And Abrams working Together!!

Apparently Harlan Ellison has signed a deal to work with J.J. Abrams on Star Wars IV, in which Abrams will join the Star Wars and Star Trek universes together! Ellison will both script the movie AND do some acting in minor, but important supporting role, as LeChaim Solo, grandfather of Han, and godfather to Kirk's illegitimate son, Dirk, for whom LeChaim will perform the ceremony of Brit Malah (not to be confused with the Kohlinar ritual). The tentative title of the film is either "Star Wars: Revenge of the Jew from Painesville", or "Star Trek: Enough Already!"

Office of the Obvious <transparency@goodoldUSA.com>
- Sunday, March 31 2013 5:12:55


You think they could have been any more obvious? The Dangerous Minds folks claimed they were going to "judge" the best Weasels Ripped My Flesh title entries, but I'm a subscriber to their daily newsletter, I'd been watching and reading all the entries since the contest started, and all they really did was pick the three from the very top of the list! I mean, are they going to have us believe that three of the very first four entries, that had been there at the top of the list since the day they started the contest, were honestly "judged" the best? Really?! Hey guys, what was wrong with the one you passed over; not eligible because he wasn't a "subscriber"? Yea, I got a lot of confidence in the effort the staff exerted in THAT contest! Too bad, because there were some seriously funny and entertaining titles buried deeper in the list, easily superior to the three "winners", that the Dangerous Minds people obviously didn't care to explore, including a couple from Webderland denizens I believe. This isn't sour grapes, I didn't offer an entry of my own, but why build up the public interest in a promotional "contest" if all you're going to do is take the first three from the top? What a joke!

John <django68@hotmail.com>
Dallas, Texas - Sunday, March 31 2013 0:40:36

Hi Mr. Ellison,

Can you tell me if you have any more of your great Audiobooks coming out soon?

And can you tell me if your Bloch inspired short story sequel that you also read "The Prowler in the City, At the Edge of the World" A disturbing story that was so mind boggling read that even as great as your readings are.I swear there had to be some editing that helped transform your voice.

I'm not speaking of the obvious echo effects. I just find it hard to believe that someone could be that good!

Thanks and Take Care

- Saturday, March 30 2013 23:31:39

The Selvedge Yard / Steve McQueen

Found this at The Selvedge Yard two nights ago; I think it makes a pretty decent accompaniment to Harlan's undeniably great essay "Centerpunching," collected in SLEEPLESS NIGHTS IN THE PROCRUSTEAN BED:


... however, it was McQueen and his '57 Jaguar XK-SS that'd initially roped me in:


- Saturday, March 30 2013 21:35:19

Can't see the forest
Hey, Levy, I think you missed the forest for the trees. I wasn't arguing about the morality of one "team" or one politician over another. I was pointing out something about fear -- the biggest button on the American public's suit of clothes -- and the media outfit currently manipulating it with Frank's new favorite show.

I shall absent myself for a fortnight due to the extra post.

James Levy <susjpl@hofstra.edu>
Syosset, New York - Saturday, March 30 2013 20:6:56


You are quite right about the fraudulence of all these right-wingers suddenly being oh-so-concerned about civil rights and budget deficits (yes, I too remember Cheney saying "deficits don't matter" and not a peep from the Right), but that doesn't mean these aren't real issues. What frightens me is the "hooray for our team" horse manure of Democrats who were all upset about rendition, indefinite detention, and government hit squads when Shrub was mobilizing these abominations, but are silent as the grave when "their guy" uses them with impunity. Ditto his illegal and destabilizing intervention in Libya.

Call me nuts, but I'm a one-standard-fits-all kind of guy. Dogshit served up by a Democrat is still dogshit, not filet mignon.

- Saturday, March 30 2013 17:44:36

Chicken Little
Hey, Frank, you don't actually think those people sit down and say, let's televise an unscripted, unprompted, debate about -- pick your subject -- do you? Yeah, the subject of drones is something which needs to be discussed, debated and reworked in legal terms, but the technology and capability was around in the Cheney&Bush administration. You should remember that 1) this show -- and that's what it is -- wasn't put on during the Bush administration -- an administration which brazenly flaunted its ability to do whatever it wanted -- "we create our own reality" was, I believe, the phrase most often quoted -- and that 2) fear is the driving force behind the Bush administration's power, as it is behind Glenn Beck's and Fox News' style of "journalism", and 97 percent of all religions. They live for Chicken Littles like you.

Frank Church
- Saturday, March 30 2013 14:49:23

This blew my mind--Glenn Beck has a news program on his huge but crazy new network, The Blaze. This is his panel of right wing experts discussing Obama's drone policy. Watch me agree with every fucking word they say:


This means Obama supporters are to the right of Glenn Beck. Gulp.

When the wacky right and Noam Chomsky are on the same page something has to be wrong. Obamabots take heed, your prince has no clothes.

Germany - Saturday, March 30 2013 13:44:38

News roundup
Crimespree Magazine on Web of the City

A blog review

Joan Steacy seems to be working on something partially Harlan-related

Harlan did not win the Weasels Ripped My Flesh competition. These titles won: “I Stole an Eskimo’s Wife” - Tim; “Marked Man: I Was The Only Male In A Nympho Sex Cult” - Scott Magee; “Satanic Sex Orgies At The Vatican!” - Ramshackle Days

BookRiot Riot Round-Up: The Best Books We Read in March

Trailers from Hell: Josh Olson on Douglas Hickox' "Sitting Target"

An odd mention of Harlan in the Washington Post (see line 3)

Illegal link to I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream

Jordan Owen <jordanowen@me.com>
Atlanta, GA - Saturday, March 30 2013 10:53:56

I haven't read 7 Against Chaos yet, but I want to see it adapted into a musical and I want to do the music. Just planting my flag in the idea before someone else jumps on it.

Alamogordo, NM - Saturday, March 30 2013 10:44:16

"The Star" (TZ version)
The story this episode was based on had long been a favorite of mine, but I found the adaptation disappointing. There was an unnecessary (my opinion only, your mileage may vary) scene added that cost the ending much of its power. It seemed that the doomed aliens knew the end was nigh and they accepted it without rancor because they had known peace and beauty.

Compare that to the last lines of the story, uttered by a man whose faith had been tried in a way he'd never imagined:

"There can be no reasonable doubt: the ancient mystery is solved at last. Yet, oh God, there were so many stars you could have used. What was the need to give these people to the fire, that the symbol of their passing might shine above Bethlehem?"

Too bleak for a Christmas episode? Probably. But I still prefer the image of that Jesuit scientist struggling to accept the way in which his God's will had been done.

Ben Winfield
- Saturday, March 30 2013 9:55:36

In other colourful entertainment news, John Hurt (Samswope in THE DISCARDED) has been announced as a guest star in the 50th anniversary episode of DOCTOR WHO:


Previous Doctor/companion duo David Tennant and Billie Piper have also been slotted in for an appearance. Now, let's wait for official confirmation of Tom Baker's return, and then we can get REALLY excited...

chrome finish
- Friday, March 29 2013 23:12:4

Ellison vocal acrobatics

Seems to me Harlan's speed and rubbery-lipness is a perfect match for THE SIMPSONS.

If he is animated as himself, hopefully he will be a southpaw!

John E. Williams
Falls Church, VA - Friday, March 29 2013 19:49:55


Wonderful, thank you. Sorry for confusing the source as being Carlin. Please extend my apologies to my cousin Robin.


Thanks for doing the heavy lifting for me. I think my results were skewed because I was searching for the wrong comedian.


Yer both treasures. Thanks for sending me to those links. I feel dumb not realizing it was a Clarke story, but I know now.

This really is a great place, this Pavilion joint.

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Friday, March 29 2013 16:31:7

Gross Joke
Kinda reminds me of "The Aristocrats" joke.


- Friday, March 29 2013 16:30:52


Yeah, that's the proper punchline. And thanks to Jim W. for refurbishing the memory. Yeah, that is one of Robin's faves of the joke I've exchanged with him over the decades.


Jim W <yearofconsent@yahoo.com>
Los Angeles, CA - Friday, March 29 2013 14:40:54

From a Google search results page:


"And the kids goes, 'Not so funny when it's your mom, is it?' I found this one on Harlan Ellison's Webderland forum. Apparently this is Robin Williams' favorite joke ..."

- Friday, March 29 2013 14:2:34


My answer to your conundrum will be worse than the perplexity itself, I fear I can remember the set-up, but not the punchline. One of life's little ironic horrors.

The gag starts with a mother and father having sex in their bedroom, hearing a sound, loooking up in dismy to see their pre-teen little boy staring at them in wonderment and confusion. They urge him out of the bedroom telling him they'll explain anon, and later, when they go to find him, they discover him fucking the grandmother, and the kid turns around and says, "See how YOU like it!" Now, as I was typing it, the punchline--I THINK--came back to me. It's a gross old joke, and I may have summoned up a misrememberance, but I THINK this
is somewhere in the vicinity.

Shamefacedly, Yr. Pal, Harlan

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Thursday, March 28 2013 22:46:15

JOHN: You can also listen to a podcast of "The Star" on THE DRABBLECAST. It's very well done, and provides a touch more depth than the episode.


Andrew J. Wilson <ajwpublishing@gmail.com>
Edinburgh, City of Edinburgh - Thursday, March 28 2013 18:56:15

For John E. Williams
The episode you're remembering is "The Star", adapted from Arthur C. Clarke's short story:


The whole thing's up on YouTube:


John E. Williams
Arlington, VA - Thursday, March 28 2013 18:6:29

For Your Consideration
I haven't been a pain in the ass around here (lately), so I am going to see if I can bug Harlan with a question and then everyone else with another question.


Some years ago on this here Pavilion you shared with us what I believe you said was George Carlin's favorite joke, or was your favorite joke that George Carlin told you. No matter. It's the one with the kid who sees his parents going at it and seeks sick revenge by turning the tables on his dad. It was hilarious, and I want to share it with a buddy of mine, but I know I will tell it wrong and blow the setup. At your convenience, can you pretty please share with us that joke one more time? Sorry to be a bother. I searched the site, to no avail. (And I sure as shit hope my search parameters were not recorded and sent off to some child welfare authority.) Please ignore me without penalty if this is too big a deal to ask.


Looking over the Best and Worst Twilight Zone episodes posted in a link below, I had a flashback of an episode that I believe was part of the 80s TZ incarnation, but might very well have been on some other anthology show of the period. The plot had to do with a nun (or was it a priest?) who is part of an interstellar expedition to a far-flung planet whose sun had gone nova thousands of years earlier. Upon arrival, it is discovered that the dying star was placed in the heavens exactly where the Star of Bethlehem would have been seen from Earth on the day Christ was born. It's a cheesy premise, I know, but I remember being intrigued by the theological questions -- why would a loving God sacrifice an inhabited planet just to signify the birth of his only son? This premise appealed greatly to the recently fallen-away Catholic I was at the time. Anyone remember what show this was? I'd love to track it down and see it again, to see if it was any good. (I honestly don't remember.)

I thank you.

Brad Haupt <hauptbp@yahoo.com>
WI - Thursday, March 28 2013 17:26:54

Man That's Rough
I absolutely loved Paul Williams' work on the Theodore Sturgeon Collected Stories volumes. I have the entire series in hardcover. The comments and anecdotes he appended to each book for each story really make those books come alive for me.

Rest easy man.

Gary Clark <goclark@att.net>
Davis, CA - Thursday, March 28 2013 14:16:55

Paul Williams has died
Whoops, last post should say Williams and not Wilson. Sorry.
Need a nap.

Gary Clark <goclark@att.net>
Davis, CA - Thursday, March 28 2013 14:14:31

Paul Wilson has died.
Paul Wilson died yesturday, age 64. Here's a link to short Locus Magazine article - http://www.locusmag.com/News/2013/03/paul-williams-1948-2013/
Folks of my generation, who were not too out of it to actually read, will remember him for his Crawdaddy music articles, and,
of course his writings about Philip K. Dick.
Head stones keep popping up wherever I turn these days. Sigh.

St. Pete, FL - Thursday, March 28 2013 13:29:4

Susan, same for me, package arrived today. Thanks.

Tom Morgan
Silverado, CA - Thursday, March 28 2013 11:52:22

Mini Purge

Susan, you trusting soul,
I stopped at the Post Office yesterday to send Sven's payment to you. I then checked my own P.O. Box and found a key to a locker which contained a package from you! Repent arrived safe and sound thanks to your expert (as usual) wrapping and packing.

Not to speak for the lady of the house but I can tell you because I have been through it: Susan is covering postage to anywhere in the world, but if you are having a book sent to CA then you do need to add 9% tax. That is all.

A good day to all here.

Alan Stephen <j.stephen4@sky.com>
Aberdeen, Scotland,UK - Thursday, March 28 2013 4:17:33

Harlan's Simpson appearance
Will there be a Harlan Ellison Simpsons Figure?
I'd love one, mention it to Matt Groenig.

Mary <hoffmann.mary7@gmail.com>
- Wednesday, March 27 2013 19:38:30

It's Gonna Be a Good Night...
I had a bit of a rough day, trying to do that mad tap dance of finishing what needs to get finished. The drive home was the usual big fat hairy deal (yawn), I drag my tired self into the house when what should greet my eyes? There it was on the dresser...a package from the House of Ellison, and inside, carefully wrapped in heavenly smelling blue tissue paper, was "Sleepless Nights in the Procrustean Bed".

I also took note of the postcard inside advertising some interesting scents...nice work of art that :).

Many thanks to Susan for the package, and many thanks to Harlan Ellison for writing some damn good stuff.

I am so looking forward to that Simpsons episode...

Do <drdespicable@gmail.com>
Los Angeles, CA - Wednesday, March 27 2013 17:47:54

SUSAN: Yes, yes, and thank you, Darling Lady. I was wondering about postage, sales tax and stufflikethatthere...

Frank Church
- Wednesday, March 27 2013 16:44:23

Groening is a big Zappa fan. Grin.

We are all so proud, Harlan.

Diane Bartels
- Wednesday, March 27 2013 16:9:57

The Simpsons has never been one of my cups of tea. But for a Harlan appearance, I will watch.

- Wednesday, March 27 2013 15:45:17


See if you can one-up Stan Lee's episode, where Comic Book Guy couldn't get him out of his store!

- Wednesday, March 27 2013 15:34:36


Script came today. A scene with Milhouse and the Comic Book Guy. I go in to the studio to record on April 4th, nd then they shlepp me to the commissary for lunch with all the writers. After twenty-something years since Matt Groening said to me, I gotta get you on 'The Simpsons.'

Ah, Posterity.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

- Wednesday, March 27 2013 15:18:23


Sven: Your order is already on the way.

Doc: The address is: The Kilimanjaro Corporation, Post Office Box 55548, Sherman Oaks, CA 91413.

Thank you all, Susan

mark spieller
- Wednesday, March 27 2013 14:8:27

Name dropped
Howard Kaylan "Eddie" of Flo and Eddie, vocalist of The Turtles, Frank Zappa's Mother of Invention, background singer for Bruce Springsteen, cartoons, and commercials has penned his autobiography "Shell Shocked".

Amongst those he acknowledges, right next to Mary Tyler Moore is a Mr. Harlan Ellison.

the Shadow
oz - Tuesday, March 26 2013 22:26:11

For those in search of a smile-inducing film
Those in search of smile-inducing -- maybe even laugh-out-loud, depending on how wide your sense of humor stretches (I'll admit it, I laughed a few times) -- may I suggest one word? "Butter"

Featuring Jennifer Garner (she of of JJ Abrams "Alias" fame, among other screen appearances) as venal, conniving and kinda scary Christian Conservative with Political aspirations...Ty Burrell (of "Modern Family" fame)...Olivia Wilde ("House","Cowboys & Aliens") as a star-spangled, pole-dancin', bike riding hooker...Hugh Jackman ("Les Miserables", "X-men") as a used car salesman...and Yara Shahidi ("Salt", "Alex Cross") as an almost-too-cute, irascible young waif (not to mention Alicia Sliverstone, Rob Coddry and Kristin Schaal in terrific supporting roles), along with a plot involving (to paraphrase the "voice-over") underhanded-scheming, sex, and...butter(!), this flick is a lot of fun (heck even the outtakes, shown after the film, during the credits, are funny).

Check it out.

Doc <drdespicable@gmail.com>
Los Angeles, CA - Tuesday, March 26 2013 21:17:1

Dear HARLAN AND/OR SUSAN: I have been out of the game too long and my memory does not love me no more. Please advise best way to pay for and claim that copy of MINDFIELDS you so kindly hold on my behalf.

Muchas Smoochas,

- Tuesday, March 26 2013 17:57:35

Happy birthday...

...Leonard Nimoy, born 82 years ago this day.

Still living long and prospering!

EU - Tuesday, March 26 2013 14:13:45

An analysis of the I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream game by Michelle Baldwin
I didn't even know The Simpsons still existed. Haven't the kids grown up? Let's hope Harlan will be part of the story like in Scooby Doo. I think he will be appalled by Springfield, where he must spend a day or two because his Packard breaks down and the spare parts must be flwon in from China. He sees the bookstore close down and signs all his books which are given away at bargain bin prices on the town square. He finally makes a speech and suddenly picks out Bart to illustrate something about education...

Frank Church
- Tuesday, March 26 2013 10:50:55

Harlan, you a fan of Frank Zappa?

You really should check out Evil Dead 2: it sounds worse than it is. It really is a marvelous horror film, very funny, with great directing from Sam Raimi.

Brian Phillips
McDonough, GA - Tuesday, March 26 2013 8:48:3

A nice mention of Harlan and "Paladin..."
Normally, I am not a fan of "Best and Worst" articles, unless I am buying something, however, this list of "Twilight Zone" episodes leads off with a Harlan quote and mentions "Paladin of the Lost Hour" AND no less than Alan Brennert saw the list and provided feedback.


- Brian Phillips

P.S. Happy Passover to all that celebrate it and congratulations on the Simpsons guest spot, Harlan!

Robert Morales
New York City, New York - Tuesday, March 26 2013 8:39:22

The Atlantic on Cordwainer Smith

Sven-Hendrik Magotsch <magotsch@web.de>
Bremen, Germany - Tuesday, March 26 2013 4:2:21

Book to Germany now solved
Hi Susan, Hi Tom,

thanks for all the help. Just transferred the money to Tom.
Should be fine.

Harlan, if you would be so kind to inscribe the book to me that would be great.

Thanks again,


Tim Derrick <t44s77@msn.com>
Imperial, CA - Tuesday, March 26 2013 0:16:36

I have fun here.
I like to check in and see what everyone is talking about here. It's great to see what Harlan has to say. And I enjoy reading the comments by others. Keep it up! Keep Tim D. happy!

oz - Monday, March 25 2013 22:16:7

HARLAN: Oops, that shoulda been "aber" -- if I'm gonna try to help with the spelling of _your_ Yiddish, or German/yiddish, words, guess I should spell _my_ German words correctly. Nicht wahr?

Tschuss mein freund!

oz - Monday, March 25 2013 20:47:58

Und dir, Herr Ellison
HARLAN: Und dir, Herr Ellison. Ahber, ich glaube es ist, "frohliche pesach". I could be wrong. I've been there once or twice before.

I am looking very much forward to this man bites dog business you've completed again mit da funny show and the make believe dog and alla dat (Schooby vhat-evah). I should be so lucky!

Love and lots of gefilte fish to you and the missus!
Your pal, the Honorary Jew,
D.T. Shindler (yes, _the_ D.T. Shindler)

- Monday, March 25 2013 19:39:53

Hugh Hefner, scrapbooking madman!

Just caught this tweet, a sweet 5-pager, "Gentlemen, Gentlemen, Be of Good Cheer, for They Are Out There, and We Are in Here" by Chris Jones.


Diane Bartels
- Monday, March 25 2013 17:52:50

Happy Passover, Harlan, Susan and everyone.

Diane Bartels
- Monday, March 25 2013 17:52:50

Happy Passover, Harlan, Susan and everyone.

- Monday, March 25 2013 15:31:33


From a stiff-necked Jewish Atheist to all of you good folk, regardless of caste or conviction, a very froylke pesach,
l'shana tovah, Happy Passsover to one and all.
----------------------------------------------------------------I am told by Mitch Watson of SCOOBY-DOO that my final cameo appearance as Mr. E on the show will air on or about 5th of April...5:00 or 5:30 PM (depending on whether they air one or two epiodes). Haven't received SIMPSONS script yet; will advise when it happens.
In the meantime, Happy Passover.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Alex Krislov <Alexkrislov@cs.com>
- Monday, March 25 2013 14:49:43

Harlan, speaking as a guy who comes from a family absolutely loaded with lawyers, my congratulations on being such an important precedent! You fought hard, and it was worth it.

And good Pesach to you and Susan, too.

- Monday, March 25 2013 12:28:14


Susan advises me Sven is okay at the moment. She says she'll advise, should the situation alter.

Thanks again, from all of us, for your efforts, Tom

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Andrew Laubacher
Buffalo, NY - Sunday, March 24 2013 20:59:15

Now for 'Treehouse of Horror'!
Now that we finally have Harlan appearing in an upcoming episode of THE SIMPSONS, we just need Bongo to hire him to provide a script for the next TREEHOUSE OF HORROR Halloween comic (and find a way to get him on THE DAILY SHOW WITH JON STEWART. The problem is that they are on opposite coasts).

- Sunday, March 24 2013 20:43:24

A painting I did two years ago - FBI: IN THE LINE OF DUTY

Based on an old drawing displayed right below the aforementioned.




My interview and an ad I did is now out in the new Painted Brain issue. Hey, it's a start!

I'm already starting work on an article about the increase in gun violence, in this case the role played by the media (where they're doing well, and areas where they may be doing damage).

Tom Morgan
Silverado, CA - Sunday, March 24 2013 16:33:40

Mini Purge


Does Sven need to renew his HERC subscription? Might be worth taking care of with this order even if he has an issue or 2 left. Let me know and I will proceed.


Wyatt Doyle <NewTextureMail@gmail.com>
Los Angeles, CA - Sunday, March 24 2013 15:6:6

WEASELS pub. data for HE
STOP REQUESTED Trade edition, SC. On Press date: 8 April 2010

WEASELS RIPPED MY FLESH! Advance, uncorrected SC. Edition of 50. On Press date: 11 October 2012

WEASELS RIPPED MY FLESH! Trade edition, SC. On Press date: 13 December 2012

- Sunday, March 24 2013 14:42:17



More or less My Bad. Yes, they came in, as you say; but without publication archival info; and I snuggled them away for awaiting. And forgot 'em. Please, no more. Just send me the date they went on press, or the day they came off press, or the day they shipped to you...any one of which will serve my (and Boston University's) archival purposes. Sorry to bone you like this.

Yr. pal, Harlan

- Sunday, March 24 2013 14:34:26


I don't know the SCOOBY-DOO airdate of my reprise, either. But why don't you post a query to them or--if you really want to be annoying--ask Josh Olson to query Mitch Watson. Do an annoying deed every day, and Gawd will love you.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Frank Stone
Stockton, CA - Sunday, March 24 2013 13:22:50

Animated Harlan
The news of Harlan's upcoming appearance on THE SIMPSONS reminded me that he mentioned here a few months ago that he had recorded a return appearance for SCOOBY-DOO: MYSTERY INC. The last 11 episodes of that series are scheduled to air over the next 2 weeks, so would anyone happen to know which episode we should be looking for?

Thanks -- have a good one!

- Frank

Janet Gamache
Victoria, BC - Sunday, March 24 2013 11:28:17

Gates/Parking Lots
beloved of the muse
wedded to the truth
renewal thro’


Dear Mr Ellison,

I have heard that you will be appearing on another TV show which is fun and something I enjoy EXCEPT when you go to that parking lot and that evil monster finds you and grabs you and shakes the begeezus out of you. SO the next time kindly do not go to that parking lot and then that evil monster will not find you and grab you and shake the begeezus out of you. Thank you for your attention.

Yours truly
Henrietta Begley

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Saturday, March 23 2013 22:17:39

Harlan, re: Simpsons
I met some production people from Simpson's at a wrap party a few years back, and they were the real deal.

How 'bout giving us a a backstage insider account after you record it?

Thanks, Chief!


Wyatt Doyle <NewTextureMail@gmail.com>
Los Angeles, CA - Saturday, March 23 2013 19:2:25

Hiya Harlan
Hmmm... You should have received multiple copies by now, actually, with full (and then some) pub. data, as I know is your preference.

Bob Deis sent you one from his place in early January, then I winged two more your way from here on 18 Jan. - one was the limited uncorrected advance, the other the release version. Also included my previous book (and data), STOP REQUESTED, in which you make something of an uncredited cameo.

Happy to replace all with a new shipment this week, unless I hear otherwise from you. But if your mailman has been acting rather more...*rugged* lately, well, mystery solved.

As far as the DM contest, it'll be my pleasure to submit your entry by proxy; sounds like a tale best read with a donut pillow handy.

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Saturday, March 23 2013 14:43:19

None of the Above

Phew! I just finished reading NONE OF THE ABOVE, Harlan's screenplay adaptation of Norman Spinrad's BUG JACK BARRON. What a rollercoaster ride.

I already knew the novel, but Harlan has put in numerous changes, twists and turns so it both feels like BUG JACK BARRON and yet reads as fresh and different. I was even fooled into liking Benedict Howards for a good long portion of the script. I love it!

Thanks, Mr E, for letting us read this. I can't wait to read CUTTER'S WORLD.

- Phil

Frank Church
- Saturday, March 23 2013 9:52:33

Obama was in Israel. He said he thinks Palestinians should get a state--fine. He also says Israel's friendship is unsinkable. What if they do not give Palestinians a state? So confused.

On Iran all options are on the table. Mustard gas? Nukes? Throwing babies from windows??

All options can't be on the table, unless the table is a morgue slab.

See, imperial states can skew language, Iran only has one option: be our bitch.

If they have any option but surrender they are toast.

If I'm Iranian I don't care for that option. No wonder we think Chavez was worse than the Saudi royal family.


Tomas Young, Iraq war vet, is going to end his life, because of the pain he is suffering. The VA will not do shit, the media does not care. God help this kid:


Ken 'Owes <kenkennyrh@aol.com>
Sunderland, UK - Saturday, March 23 2013 8:53:59


Harlan - FYI, if you're unaware. When the current Batman Chess Collection comes to its natural conclusion Eaglemoss have decided to extend their subscriptions with . . .ta da !! . . .the Justice League Chess Set.

You can find some minor details here . . .http://eaglemoss.com/dc-chess/eng/index.asp

Bobby Fischer never had days like these, yer china 'Owes

Alamogordo, NM - Saturday, March 23 2013 6:40:9

Or he could be writing:
Or the blackboard could be covered with:
"Pay the writer, man!"

Chuck Messer <chuck_messer@hotmail.com>
Lakewood, Colorado - Friday, March 22 2013 22:16:21

I will not tell Principal Skinner to "Get Stuffed".

I will not tell Principal Skinner to "Get Stuffed".

I will not tell Principal Skinner to "Get Stuffed".

I will not tell Principal Skinner to "Get Stuffed".

I will not tell Principal Skinner to "Get Stuffed".

Paul Hull <vaughnrichards@yahoo.com>
ATX, - Friday, March 22 2013 21:26:19

Simpsons- Well, Hell Yes Please!

Yeah, I'd love a Scooby-style story, but I really would be happy with a one-liner.

Bart acting the scamp, the troublemaker, the DBS, and when he gets cornered, he says, "Aw man, an adult said I could."...

Cut to Bart writing on the chalkboard (a'la the episode beginning) and HE looking in through the window yelling, "Hey punk, whaddaya doing?!" and Bart answering "Telling truth to power, man.", and HE nodding satisfactorily. "You have my blessing. Don't ever quit, kid."

The question is: which quote of Ellisons' is he writing?

Robert Morales
New York City, New York - Friday, March 22 2013 18:30:43

The A's
In 1974, Walter Abish published a wonderful novel called ALPHABETICAL AFRICA (New Directions); it opens like so:

"Ages ago, Alex, Allen and Alba arrived at Antibes, and Alva allowing all, allowing anyone, against Alex's admonition, against Allen's angry assertion: another African amusement ... anyhow, as all argued, an awesome African army assembled and arduously advanced against an African anthill, assiduously annihilating ant after ant, and afterward, Alex astonishingly accuses Albert as also accepting Africa's antipodal ant annexation. ..."

It goes on like that for a couple of pages, before adding words beginning with B in the next chapter, words beginning with C in the third chapter, and so on. Incredibly, it all adds up to a coherent narrative.


Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Friday, March 22 2013 17:52:54

Number Working Fine
How very strange. I just called my home phone on my cell phone and everything was fine.

I am, of course, thrilled about your Simpsons appearance.

You are, as ever, the Man. Well, not THE Man, because that's my old boss Stan, but you are He What Sets the Bar Incredibly High.

Love to you and Susan,


PS. Mailed the Previews catalog earlier this week. I would tell you when I mailed it, but am presently doped up after completing stage two of a root canal.

- Friday, March 22 2013 17:37:35

By mind-blowing happenstance, Howard Stern wrote a sequel to his FARTMAN opus, ANTS ASSAILED URANUS!

There is some talk of making this a series of children's books.

- Friday, March 22 2013 17:29:39

make that "verbiage"

St. Pete, FL - Friday, March 22 2013 17:28:32

Ellison v. Robertson (make that 136 citations as of 3/21/13)
Citation Summary
Total number of times this case has been cited: 136
Cited by federal appellate cases: 30
Cited by state cases: 0
Cited by district court cases: 106
Cited by bankruptcy court cases: 0
Decision date of most recent cite: March 21, 2013

Harlan, if you want the full report, I can print it for you, which includes the name & citation of each case that cites your case, plus, in some instances, the verbage of where your case appears in the other case.

Brad Haupt <hauptbp@yahoo.com>
Milwaukee, WI - Friday, March 22 2013 17:3:26

Because This Happened To Me Once
Angry Army Ants Assaulted Arnie Anderson's Asshole.

Steve B
- Friday, March 22 2013 16:44:0

Contravening rules for a sec to offer "Tales of The Anus of J. Alfred Prufrock's Baby" as a possible title.

One-upping Ellison for the first time, ever.

Steve Barber <Barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Friday, March 22 2013 16:41:31


Seriously cool news about THE SIMPSONS! It's already the buzz over at Facebook!

Me? I'm holding out for Harlsn and Sheldon Cooper "Mano y Mano". (But Hell yes I'll be tuned to THE SIMPSONS!)

Power to getting the Man to a new generation!

- Friday, March 22 2013 15:38:9


Not to unhinge you, but I tried to call you, at your usual phone number of decades, to gladden you with the news of my upcoming SIMPSONS appearance, and six times the operator assured me your number had been disconnected. Is there something either or bothof us should know?

Perplexedly, Yr. Pal, Harlan

- Friday, March 22 2013 15:20:42


May I submit as a title for entry into the WEASELS book freebie giveaway, the following title for an article?


Waiting for my copy to show (plz include pub date when it was printed), yr. pal, Harlan

W, Owen Powell
Bloomington, IN - Friday, March 22 2013 12:47:28

Well, glory be.
I've been on a Simpsons fast for close to a full decade now, but it looks like I might just have to break it for this one.

Wyatt Doyle <NewTextureMail@gmail.com>
Los Angeles, CA - Friday, March 22 2013 11:18:36

Psst! Hey, pal: Wanna win a WEASELS? Harlan's in it...
Hello Webderlanders! I'm very pleased to report that our WEASELS RIPPED MY FLESH! anthology of "all-star" men's adventure magazine fiction (featuring - ahem! - our esteemed host) is not only now available, they're GIVING it away!

Well, the Dangerous Minds blog is, anyway. They've got three copies on the block, to be awarded to the wordsmiths who cook up the wildest "Weasels Ripped My Flesh"-style headlines to tickle DM's collective fancy.

All it takes is one tough, sweaty, two-fisted headline to take home a book. It ain't like fighting off a swarm of snapping turtles. Or holding the Hill alone, armed only with a bayonet. Or scaling deadly Mt. Keppler in the company of a killer for hire!


Winners will be announced Tuesday, so hump it over there NOW, you mugs!

To learn more about the book (or to order a copy), please visit www.WeaselsRipped.com

Thank you for your support. As a small indie press, we appreciate every bit of it. And thank you, Harlan, for your thrilling contribution to the collection, "Death Climb"!

- Friday, March 22 2013 10:4:6

I had that thought about Harlan and Comic-Book Guy myself.

Ben Winfield
- Friday, March 22 2013 9:21:24

I can't help but wonder about the context of Harlan's appearance in THE SIMPSONS. Obviously no one involved with the production can indulge details, but are we looking at a "hello, goodbye" sort of cameo, or something a little more juicy?

I do hope the writers take into account just how EXACTLY Harlan would react to these characters in real life. J.K. Rowling might be amiable enough to have a pleasant chit-chat with Lisa Simpson, but let's face it, Harlan would flat-out EVISCERATE the Comic Book Guy if he tried to corner him with his usual fanboy snark. (The thought of what Harlan would do to Homer if he called him a "sci-fi writer" shouldn't be broadcast in ANY medium.)

Now, all that needs to be done next is for someone to book Harlan in for a spot in THE BIG BANG THEORY, and the universe would finally be at peace.

Shane Shellenbarger
Phoenix, AZ - Friday, March 22 2013 9:21:17

My congratulations on your upcoming appearance on the 25th Anniversary of THE SIMPSONS. My feeling is that they should focus the entire episode on you, but then I've felt that way about all of your appearances on television.

Yr Pal,

Michael Rapoport
- Friday, March 22 2013 8:14:3


I cannot WAIT to see what a Simpsonized Harlan looks like. Congratulations!

oz - Friday, March 22 2013 4:24:49

Note to Harlan regarding his thoughts on posterity
HARLAN: Still wish I could've gotten the yobbos at PW to have run a good, solid story about your fight against AOL, but I'm happy to have been able to cobble up that not-so-long-ago magazine piece for "Pages" (and variations on the same for a few newspapers as well). I'm not surprised that it is now case law, especially with everything I learned way back when with interviews and such.

That said, anyone who DOESN'T believe your short stories -- especially the whole of DEATHBIRD STORIES, The Expanded Edition (twice as good as the original, in my humble opinion) -- and essays, and teleplays aren't cemented in the American Literary Gestalt is either crazy or sadly lacking in reading material.

Glad to see more and more well-deserved approbation coming your way these days.

All good wishes to you and Susan from Southeastern Oz,

Beautiful Northridge, CA - Friday, March 22 2013 3:36:25

To my favorite Dasein....

"The tradition that hereby gains dominance makes what it 'trans-
mits' so little accessible that at first and for the most part it covers
it over instead. What has been handed down it hands over to ob-
viousness; it bars access to those original 'wellsprings' out of which
the traditional categories and concepts were in part genuinely
drawn. The tradition even makes us wholly incapable of even understanding
that such a return is necessary. The tradition uproots the the historicity
of Dasein to such a degree that it only takes an interest in the
manifold forms of possible types, directions, and standpoints of phil-
losophizing in the most remote and strangest cultures, and with this
interest tries to veil its own lack of foundation. Consequently, in
spite of all historical interest and zeal for a philologically 'viable'
interpretation, Dasein no longer understands the most elementary
conditions which alone make a positive return to the past possible--
in the sense of its productive appropriation."

In other words: CONGRATULATIONS to Mr. Ellison on his upcoming gig on The Simpsons!!!

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Friday, March 22 2013 2:16:48

The Animated Ellison


SHE: You remember. Harlan Ellison. Wrote all those great stories. One of them was made into a film with a young Don Johnson. The guy who TERMINATOR ripped off. Edited some great anthologies. Won more awards than you can shake an ansible at.

Established case law that is widely used to prosecute illegal file sharers.

C'mon, the guy who wrote the best Star Trek episode of all time, and a far better version of I, ROBOT than the one Will Smith played in.

Spoke his mind on a YouTube clip.

HE (ears suddenly prick up): What was his name again?

SHE: Har-lan. Ell-i-son.

HE: No, still don't remember him.

SHE: Oh god, he was in SCOOBY-DOO for crissakes!

HE (suddenly interested): He was?!

SHE: And The Simpsons!

HE (slowly dawning): Oh Harlan Ellison, the Simpsons guy. Him, I remember!


The Simpsons is TRUE immortality. Congratulations, Unca Harlan. I do hope they put you in a scene with Comic-Book Guy.

- Phil

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Thursday, March 21 2013 22:19:11

I hope there are plans or will be plans to publish Mr Harlan's recent post in some future publication. Spread the word, it needs reprinting. Fantastic.

And congrats on THE SIMPSONS! I hope there is an Ellison reference on the chalkboard: I HAVE NO MOUTH AND I MUST SCREAM, perhaps? Suggestions, anyone?



John E. Williams <jwilliams76@verizon.net>
Arlington, VA - Thursday, March 21 2013 20:7:32

Dear Harlan,

I am weeping profusely over your Pay the Writer post at the same time I am smiling broadly upon learning about your Simpsons news. Fuck you for doing this to me. (Again)

Andrew J. Wilson <ajwpublishing@gmail.com>
Edinburgh, City of Edinburgh - Thursday, March 21 2013 18:39:40

United Kingdom
Dear Mr. Ellison (the foregoing period is included in deference to American conventions...),

Many, many congratulations on your forthcoming animated (no doubt in all senses of the word) appearance on "The Simpsons". This is a much-deserved accolade. Fete the writer, anyone?

But can we have another story, please? (OK, "7 Against Chaos" is coming round the bend, and I am agog, but we need more, I say...)

A very good and very old friend of mine, who is a leading expert in IT PR, ALWAYS makes the people he works with and teaches watch the "Pay the Writer" clip. And like me, he's a fan of your work.

Some of us do pay the writer, but we want to pay him more.

As we say round my way: lang may yer lum reek.

the Shadow
- Thursday, March 21 2013 18:14:20

I forgot Gore-freakin-Vidal! I think he was on the "The Simpsons", too -- maybe even twice, like Pynchon.

If they give you any input Mr. Ellison, tell 'em' to draw a "Pay the Writer!" t-shirt on you. :) And if they let you ad-lib, as they should, I hope you'll trip the light fantastic and really cut loose -- even if it's just to toss out a few semi-sophomoric, Simpson-style, barbs, like, "Gene can kiss my Roddenberries", or whatever.

- Thursday, March 21 2013 17:44:13


Well, it's about bloody time!!!

Is there already an air date for that?

I have several POLITICALLY INCORRECT (Though I think REAL TIME would work just as well!)dream-segment with Harlan, but here's one of 'em:

Sarah Palin, Rand Paul, Michelle Bachmann

You'd find out, Harlan, how much you'd really LOVE Bill Maher!


Anybody ever see the animated feature WAKING LIFE by Richard Linklater? Long over-due, I'm checking it out this weekend.

the Shadow
- Thursday, March 21 2013 17:36:58

A sublime moment in the limelight
There have been a truckload of actors and singers guest-starring on "The Simpsons", but not many writers. One could count Steven Hawking, Steve Martin and Albert Brooks, because they wrote books that were worthy of attention, but they had other "day jobs" first, and if you stick just to the writers who've been on that show, I have to admit to NOT knowing the definitive list, it IS pretty short:

Stephen King, John Updike, Thomas Pynchon (twice!), Amy Tan, J.K. Rowling, Tom Clancy, Michael Chabon, Jonathan Franzen, James Patterson, Alan Moore, Mitch Albom, David Mamet and Neil Gaiman.

I believe I read somewhere that Aaron Sorkin ("The West Wing", "The Newsroom", "The Social Network") is also slated for an appearance.

There it is: the sublime pinnacle in the limelight not always reached by all writers -- a guest spot on "The Simpsons".

Mr. Ellison, you, sir, have a officially made it to the big time.

- Thursday, March 21 2013 17:7:32

It's on! For the 25th anniversary of THE SIMPSONS, the
script will include Harlan Ellison performing Harlan Ellison!!!!!!!!

Calloo Callay! -he

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.om>
Minneapolis, MN - Thursday, March 21 2013 16:17:27

RIP Rick Huatala

One of my favorite writers passed away today.

St. Pete, FL - Thursday, March 21 2013 16:13:51

Harlan, as an attorney I have access through the Florida Bar to Fastcase. I performed a Shepardization, if you will. Your case, Ellison v. Robertson, has been cited in 134 other cases. Posterity indeed!

- Thursday, March 21 2013 16:0:54


Now that my YouTube "Pay the Writer" jeremiad has reached some staggering attendance northwards of 700,000 hits, I am given to pause a minim to contemplate what it is we do that firmly plants the pole for Posterity; what it is that we do containing a grope for iconic stature. One might write--as some few have done--"Harlan Ellison may be the most famous 'unknown' writer in our time." There is, naturally, and wistfully, a frisson of How The Hell Much More Do I Have To Do After a Lifetime Behind This Millstone? I am condign to shrug off that tremor.

I am well and truly known by enough "everybody" that I do not bewail my lot. My bust may not be beside Balzac's, but then perhaps Ed McBain's may never be beside Poe's. One comes to grips with that demon of Posterity that burns dangerously blue-white in the center of the arid desert of madness lying mid the soul-plain of every TRUE WRITER. Note the caps. TRUE writer.

I have done what I have done. Nearing age 79--zounds!--I am reminded of all the people who have questioned the sanity, if not the efficacy, of my contretemps. "Why did you turn down such-and-such a job for so many millions when you were broke?" or "Why did you sue City Hall when you had to go out and solicit strangers for the financing to litigate?"

I used to say: You have to fight 'em all, big and little, because you never know ten years later which were the important ones. No one has such foresight. So, rowdy street tough within me, I fought 'em all.

Now, ten and more years later, I find which were the important ones, the ones that turn out to be those posts stuck nine feet into bedrock that have become iconic, that have made a difference, that "changed history" even that transient minim.

One of them was my lawsuit against AOL, in protection of creative rights, a long hard lawsuit that caused me such derisive blowback. It has since become Casebook Law (the brief itself is preserved and memorialized at the heading of this internet Pavilion courtesy of one of the lead attorneys in the case, Charlie Petit)cited by dozens of Higher Courts across the nation. Here is one example:

My then-attorney, Christine Valada, who was on the lawsuit from the git-go sent the following e-mail today:
Here's a link to the PDF of the 9th Circuit ruling I got today.


Here's the one from last week.


The Bit Torrent ruling is almost 60 pages and the Universal music one was longer, so I really couldn't print them out at work. When they are finally printed in a Westlaw volume, they will be shorter due to double columns and tiny print. I haven't been in a law library in quite a while, so I haven't had an opportunity to try and Shepardize the case to see where else it has been cited.


I perforce submit all the preceding as succor to those several friends with whom I've spoken in the last few days, who have, in part, lamented that they "hadn't done anything significant" in their careers. I am getting reviews (note the PUBLISHERS WEEKLY 18 March this year) that speak of the "muscularity, the clarity, the promise" of the voice that was developing as I was haltingly, laboriously learning my trade from the start as an autodidact. These reviews are the kinds of encomia I would have associated with a young Vonnegut, a young Roth, a young Harvey Swados, when I was just a yearning teenager. I read them now with their 20-20 hindsights of what wonders were to come from this tyro, and I confess to be humbled, flummoxed, and a bit irate--where were you when I was kiting dinners at the Chinese carry-out on Broadway in the Fifties.

All of that is succotash. Chris Valada, Charlie Petit, the hundreds of Webderlanders who sent a buck, fifty bucks, whatever--repaid, motherfugguhs, repaid in full, every cent--so that artists of all endeavors, from writers to photographers could have one more weapon to fight the omnivore that is the greedy, ignorant theftishness of the internet--every one of you, have Fought the Holy War. And we've won our battles, we've sunk our poles for Posterity and spread seventy cubic yards of Portland Cement over that bedrock. They may not be the Great Pryamid of Gizah, but they have made their presences known. The war continues to rage as stupid people (including, recently, The Supreme Court) attempt to spay the Copyright protections, but thousands of creators owe a bit of ease in their struggles to us. Because we fought'm all.

Today, I got a call from Marty. There is a chance I might play myself, after all these years, on THE SIMPSONS.

Fight'm all; you never know which heroic effort, silly or calumnious to observers, may be the one that outlasts your life.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

jack myers <myersjackallen@gmail.com>
roseville, california - Thursday, March 21 2013 15:28:4

a short story
all i know is when I got shattered like a glass goblin it hurt like hell! j

Germany - Thursday, March 21 2013 12:27:26

Johann Thorsson on Harlan 101: Encountering Ellison
Sven-Hendrik: Susan had to make sure because your posting said "german copy".

Ben Winfield
- Thursday, March 21 2013 9:34:13

Michael Monterastelli of Chud.com offers an insightful review of A BOY AND HIS DOG, as adapted by L.Q. Jones:


Sven-Hendrik Magotsch <magotsch@web.de>
Bremen, Germany - Thursday, March 21 2013 8:23:39

To Susan
Hi Susan,

yes, i would very much like a copy. I read all the books from your husband in english.
Would be great if it works out and if i could pay via Tom.


P.S.: If you need a re-new payment on the next issue of Rabbit Hole, let me know (forgot my membership number unfortunately)

Frank Church
- Thursday, March 21 2013 8:7:29

Harry did more than reem that's why he is dead.

Adam-Troy Castro <adamcastro999@yahoo.com>
- Thursday, March 21 2013 7:51:47

LIFE HUTCH analogy
I won't subject the Pavillion to the entire essay, but I've just used "Life Hutch" as an analogy in an essay about bullying. Here's the relevant portion.

"{Harlan Ellison wrote a story called "Life Hutch,"}...about a soldier on the brink of death trapped in a tiny rescue station with a robot that was supposed to be a servant but has slipped its programming and is now driven by compulsion to smash and destroy any moving object in its line of sight. The hero has to figure out a way to survive when even the slightest twitch on his part can bring down a brutal beating. That robot’s compulsion is the bully’s compulsion. He sees it, he cannot understand it, he cannot process it, he must destroy it. It is horrifically offensive to him even if he must only perceive it. It “always existed;” but it’s too much to expect him to have to look at it. It’s why so much bullying is not just a dominance thing, but a fear thing. X is different. X is an offense to my eye. Therefore X must be destroyed."

- Wednesday, March 20 2013 19:25:3

ATC's note about Harry R.
Regarding your note to the nation's news outlets, ATC, you might want to rethink that. From what I can see, the "news" outlets in the media -- TV, the internet, hard-copy, whereever -- have long been "in the groove" of making silly, sophomoric and/or snarky remarks and observations for the entertainment of the masses, all the while labeling such dreck as "news". It's something that has been goin' on for at least a couple of decades now, ushered in by Fox "News" and "USA Today" and their emulators.

- Wednesday, March 20 2013 16:48:55

Just read that British horror author James Herbert has passed away at the age of 69.

Robert White <robert_white1366@att.net>
Mobile, Alabama - Wednesday, March 20 2013 15:1:17

United States
My dream Politically Incorrect lineup would have been Harlan, Christopher Hitchens, George Carlin and Sarah Palin. Maybe it's the Pre-Christian era Roman in me?

- Wednesday, March 20 2013 13:33:27


We do have a copy of SLEEPLESS NIGHTS. It is in English (Borgo Press), not German. Do you still want the book?

All best--Sue

Adam-Troy Castro
- Wednesday, March 20 2013 12:45:20

To the nation's online news providers, including Yahoo: yes, it is true that Harry Reems just died, and that DEEP THROAT was a popular film. However, you are not achieving the tone you envision when you describe his most famous work as "seminal."

W. Owen Powell
Bloomington - Wednesday, March 20 2013 8:49:44

Harlan on PI
Yes, I remember the one with Star Parker. I'm not sure if it's one of the shows I've still got taped, I have at least one with HE and one of Biafra's plus at least three of of Harlan hanging out with Tom Snyder.

I seem to recall that I also have Edgeworks volume #3 on the shelf, with the lengthy footnote across several pages describing that little dustup. Which is spot on, as we generally come to expect from the Humble Author.

Sven-Hendrik Magotsch <magotsch@web.de>
Bremen, Germany - Wednesday, March 20 2013 7:45:10

Sleepless nights.....german copy ?
Hi Susan,

if there is still a copy left and if Tom would again agree to a Paypal payment transfer, i would love to buy a copy of:


All the best from cold Germany,


P.S.: If you need a re-new payment for Rabbit Hole as well, let me know.

Kevin Avery
Brooklyn, New York - Tuesday, March 19 2013 16:59:28

Publishers Weekly URLs
I'm not sure if these have already been posted here, but, in case they haven't, here are links to the recent PW reviews:



- Tuesday, March 19 2013 12:13:16


Just a thought. If any of you there, or of your acquaqintance, has the current issue of PUBLISHERS WEEKLY containing the two grandiloquent reviews of GENTLEMAN JUNKIE and THE DEADLY STREETS...if you (or they) aren't preserving them, I would love to have any cast-off issues for the Boston University Archives and my own files.

The stir the boxed reviews has caused is a bit breathtaking.

Thanks in advance, anything you can do.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

chicago, - Tuesday, March 19 2013 11:37:24

I don't know, Mr. Ellison;
but is "yoink" the word?

Frank Church
- Tuesday, March 19 2013 10:38:43

Harlan, I may look into that. I'd suspect ABC would charge me ten thousand bucks to have it, being the media's extreme views regarding copyrights and such. I will look into it.

I know you erased her name from your memory bank--I am quite sure you must have had several showers after the show--but it was Star Parker, who, sadly, is still brewing up evil, being that she is a big draw on the right wing and also ran for congress in Cali.

Sad to see a black woman outevil whitey.

I think Maher has tempered his stance towards communism, but he did say something last friday that got much play on the right, when he complained about taxes being too high in LA.

To be fair to my commie brothers, they did do a lot of heroic activism during the civil rights movement, doing a lot of early organizing. This was something, since the government was crushing them like bugs.

I'm red with envy.


The UN did a tribute to Chavez. He wasn't a dictator:


Beautiful Northridge, CA - Tuesday, March 19 2013 10:37:55

Forthcoming Ellison reissues

I can't wait for the Subterranean Press editions of THE DEADLY STREETS and GENTLEMAN JUNKIE to come out. I pre-ordered the regular trade editions as well as the (non-vegan) limited editions of the titles back in December. Below is the link that includes the excerpts of the brief reviews of the forthcoming reissues:


Don't be left out; order them while you can....



Not that anyone cares, but I am sick in bed today, drinking lots of green tea. Also got to watch the brand-spanking-new Criterion Collection DVD of Terrence Malick's BADLANDS (and now I have Malick three greatest films on Criterion). I love Malick's cameo in that film, and that scene showing a low angle shot of Martin Sheen sitting in a tree, munching on an apple and giggling to himself while looking at the photos in a copy of National Geographic.

Some newer films I want to see this year are the following:

Room 237

Something in the Air

Upstream Color

Before Midnight

Top of the Lake

While sick in bed, I have been enjoying listening to an eclectic mix of J.S. Bach, Mahler, Shostakovich, and of course Explosions in the Sky....

"Remember Me as A Time of Day" by Explosions in the Sky:



Overheard in a bar recently:

Woman to Man: "I'm not sure there's a connection; let's just start with a blowjob and go from there."

W. Owen Powell
Bloomington, IN - Tuesday, March 19 2013 8:34:23

Bob Larson
Frank - I was a closet "fan" of Larson too, before he got too caught up in all that phony exorcism crap and got booted to the 2 am slot, then off the air entirely.

Here's where you can find his interviews with Boyd Rice, and those may just compensate you somewhat. First time I heard one of these it was around 4 am over the radio, and it was one of the most entertainingly off-the-wall things possible to wake up to in the wee hours.


John E. Williams <jwilliams76@verizon.net>
Falls Church, VA - Tuesday, March 19 2013 6:1:19

Yeah, well, while looking for possible PI clips on the Tube de Vous, I found THIS little gem: Harlan's "Look It Up!" segment of an old Sci-Fi Channel airing of a Trek episode. The clip should start right at Harlan's moment.


Adam-Troy Castro
- Tuesday, March 19 2013 5:17:28

Because somebody had to, I watched the first episode of BATES MOTEL on A & E.

I never wanted to watch a show that could almost be called NORMAN BATES, 17-YEAR-OLD CHICK MAGNET. But as I have, I note that I wouldn't consider this an unpromising first episode, for a series where we didn't already know the main character would someday be THE Norman Bates. But we do know.

One positive thing about the actor who plays young Norman: good Lord, they cloned Anthony Perkins. The resemblance is THAT strong, and he is giving the same performance.But the show is pretty much...unnecessary.


Haven't received my ARC of SEVEN AGAINST CHAOS. May need to follow up soon.

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Tuesday, March 19 2013 2:17:32

Question for Harlan


I'm putting together a(nother) conference paper about your screenwriting, and wondered if you might be able to answer a question for me:

You once said (here in the Pavilion) that Ernest Lehman taught you half of what you know about screenwriting. So who taught you the other half?

My paper will be comparing the screenwriting styles of Ellison and Ray Bradbury, and will be presented at the Eaton conference in Riverside next month.

Thanks for reading,



jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Monday, March 18 2013 22:16:19

U.N.C.L.E. question for Unca
Did you ever drive the U.N.C.L.E. car? (AMT Pirahanna on Corvair chassis with custom fiberglass bottom and special spy thing-ies)

I wish I could.


- Monday, March 18 2013 19:26:3


Y'know, Frank, Susan and I have VHS copies of virtually every POLITICALLY INCOORRECT that I did with Maher, including the super-duper one with Fyvish Fievel where I literally launched myself off my seat and went across the coffee table at a right-wing snitch bitch spokeswoman...it shows me as the camera caught me in full flight...one of my favorite things. Don't know why you guys with all your know-it-all can't cozzen Comedy Central and ABC-tv into yonking such "historical archival" material for you. Age and subversion always outmaneuver youth and braggadocio (excuse spelling if incorrect.)

My god, the tsunami of wonder and praise and approbabtion that has flowed today from that boxed review of GENTLEMAN JUNKIE and THE DEADLY STREETS in Publishers Weekly! What a pleasant and unexpected delight. That Bill Schaffer at Subterrranean Press really know how to put a package together, and PW has taken some extraordinarily gracious notice.

Yr. pal, Harlan

Justin <justinsluyter@gmail.com>
Evanston, IL - Monday, March 18 2013 19:16:49

Harlan gets a quick mention at Ain't It Cool News today in an article regarding the new Man from UNCLE project:

"Harlan Ellison wrote two 3rd-season episodes, “The Sort of Do-It-Yourself Dreadful Affair” and “The Pieces of Fate Affair.”"

Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Monday, March 18 2013 17:25:18

Man From U.N.C.L.E. movie
News about a possible MAN FROM U.N.C.L.E. movie starring Tom Cruise:


Frank Church
- Monday, March 18 2013 17:17:11

I still say to this day that I got Harlan on PI. That was the period I was sending in letters to Maher asking to have on this or that guest. I asked for Harlan, Bob Larson, Jello Biafra. Guess what, they all got on.

I regret Bob Larson, but that was when I was getting off on listening to fundamentalist talk radio and his show was the wackiest. His debate with Jello is classic. To bad I cannot find it anywhere on the web.

I remember when Harlan was on with Henry Rollins and Rollins looked really pissed. That seemed odd since Rollins is such a reader.

Kinda wondered if he and Harry Anderson became buds?


A bonus for you all today: Jack Chick Tract parodies:


jack allen myers <myersjackallen@gmail.com>
roseville, California - Monday, March 18 2013 14:54:24

United States
i don't think my heart can take one of Mr. Ellisons comics at my age. .j.

- Monday, March 18 2013 14:47:31


Boy! Did YOU hit the mark! STRINGSVILLE is one of my ten favorite albums of jazz of all time. Harry Lookofsky was unbelievable. His version of Monk's "'Round Midnight" on this side will make your heart dash into the flames. It's on Atlantic, and I keep it right near where I work at the typewriter in among a special fifty-or-so all-time evergreens. It is a SPEC-TAC-U-LAR album. Get it and be amazed! How swell that you crossed this path with me. I must have played Lookofsky's ouevre a hundred times. Now YOU will be inveigled! I envy that first listen.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Germany - Monday, March 18 2013 13:33:30

Pornokitsch reviews Web of the City

To Robert White: Harlan was on Politically Incorrect more than once, but there is no compilation. We all find and collect what we can. I would presume that some of his early TV appearances are lost now. Have you checked out the documentary film Dreams with Sharp Teeth?

Mike Miller <orgaladh@charter.net>
- Monday, March 18 2013 13:25:46

Stephen King on Lovecraft, Writing, etc from UMass Lowell

Good reflection on the current state of writing and publishing by Stephen King about halfway down the page.

Mike Dobkins
HB, CA - Monday, March 18 2013 11:45:10

Jeffty Is Five
For ease of communication, I'm adding the contact info for the web site with the "Jeffty Is Five" PDF file that Alex Krislov found. It is:

Monsignor Scanlan High School
915 Hutchinson River Parkway, Bronx, NY 10465
Phone: (718) 430-0100
Fax: (718) 892-8845

The site also has a form for online message at this link:

Mike "Can't Resist Sticking His Nose Into Everyone's Business" Dobkins

- Monday, March 18 2013 10:40:45

Mike and Douglas confirmed. Thank you.

All best--Susan

Hollywood, California - Monday, March 18 2013 9:35:50

Went to get my oil changed the other day, and noticed that Golden Apple had shrunk its storefront from two to one: http://twitpic.com/ccg0eh

Brian: I just spent the morning researching such a duo. From what I can make out, the father was a second-chair oboe in the L.A. Philharmonic in the 1930s. The son was an MGM musician who also played the oboe and performed in a variety of soundtracks including "The Prisoner of Zenda," "An American in Paris" and "I'll Cry Tomorrow." Or maybe the son was both an MGM-er and the orchestra guy. It can be difficult to sort things like that out ninety years down the road, you know?

On the personal front, there's not much going on. Tweeted some photos from an Oscars party online, and got a free model airplane from one of the sponsors (http://twitpic.com/c8zeld). Yay.

Brian Phillips
McDonough, GA - Monday, March 18 2013 8:18:54

Musical question for Harlan.
I am currently putting together a radio program that features the music of musicians and their children. In one case, Michael Brown, who sang with the Left Banke and wrote a lot of their material, is the son of Harry Lookofsky. Lookofsky recorded an album called "Stringville".

I haven't heard this, but I have heard good things about it. Harlan, are you a fan of this album? I see a copy of it on eBay (I'd rather have the vinyl).

- Brian Phillips

Alex Krislov <Alexkrislov@cs.com>
- Monday, March 18 2013 8:8:34

"Jeffty" on web
Harlan, I was working on a review for one of your newer books, and did a websearch on "Jeffty Is Five." To my surprise, I ran across a PDF file of the entire story, sans anything even resembling a copyright statement, on the site for what appears to be a Catholic high school. Thought I ought to let you know, just in case this is unauthorised. It's at


Best to you and Susan,


Robert White <robert_white1366@att.net>
Mobile, Alabama - Monday, March 18 2013 4:47:40

United States
I was wondering if there's a complete, or close to complete, compilation of Harlan interviews, TV appearances, etc, available online? I ask because I've always enjoyed them and also because I can't seem to find his appearance on Politically Incorrect anywhere.

I particularly enjoyed the 1976 Tom Snyder Star Trek special. For a moment there I thought Harlan and James Doohan were going to have a dust up!

Mike Lane <mflane@odu.edu>
Norfolk , VA - Monday, March 18 2013 4:26:52

Book request

If the copy of Medea is still available I'll take it. Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner but I've been away from the Internet for a couple of days. Thanks.

Thanks to Greg and also to Tom Morgan for the email heads-up!

- Sunday, March 17 2013 19:44:23

I meant online!

- Sunday, March 17 2013 19:43:17

Thank you, Harlan. You didn't let me down at all: even on line I found relatively little about the author, or even the film.


BTW, I've a friend (she has a pathological need to emasculate men, but that's a story for another day! who teaches English Lit in the colleges. She has been reading and getting enthralled by Asimov's Foundation series. I've begun encouraging her to dig into your work as she looks for stories for her classes, though with specific emphasis on social development themes.

Chris Campbell <ilchriscampbell@gmail.com>
Maianbar, NSW - Sunday, March 17 2013 18:55:51

Thanks to both you and Tom for making this easy. Tom has once again shown what a truly thoughtful gentleman he is.

And as long as I am doling out thanks,

Harlan, I don't think that I ever said Thank You for the kind response and card regarding the magazine. It was much appreciated.


- Sunday, March 17 2013 14:30:14


Sorry to let you down, but I don't know Pavlov's work.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

- Sunday, March 17 2013 0:14:32

P.S. ~

I meant the author Sergei Pavlov

- Sunday, March 17 2013 0:11:56


One time we talked a little about Tarkovsky's SOLARIS and the novel by Stanis³aw Lem.

I came in on the middle of another Russian SF,Lunnaya Raduga (1983). This film is based on a novel, the first of a series from what I read (second novel title as translated, Soft Mirrors).

Do you know the film and/or have you read Pavlov's work. If so, I'd like very much to get your take on it. I'm interested in more info, as I DID rather like what I saw of the film, bearing in mind it was only the second half.

Douglas Harrison
Kamloops, BC - Saturday, March 16 2013 23:4:37

Dear Susan:
I would like to reserve one copy each of SLEEPLESS and MIND FIELDS, s'il vous plaît.


the Shadow
- Saturday, March 16 2013 15:0:26

Royalty cheques
Mr. Levy, not for nuthin', but...couldn't you have made a gorgeous, color, copy of said cheque, framed it and still cashed in the $220 dollar payday, thereby making a profit of at least 200 bucks (assuming a gorgeous color copy would run you twenty bucks)?

- Saturday, March 16 2013 11:18:26

Chris -- confirmed.

Tom, my thanks.

All best--Susan

James Levy <susjpl@hofstra.edu>
Syosset, New York - Saturday, March 16 2013 7:43:56

Good article about writing for a living

I though that our host and many hereabout would enjoy the following piece by an author who "made the best seller's list" (his book peaked at #6):


Despite being a complete minor leaguer, I can attest to the oddity of the royalty system. My first book sold half as many copies as my second, yet I've received two decent checks over the years for the first one and haven't seen a dime for the second. My guess is that it's because the first publisher (Palgrave Macmillan) counts costs against you in a different way than my other publisher does.

Confession of an academic author: my first check from Palgrave was this fancy British thing with a rainbow watermark. I've never cashed it. My dream was always to frame it, a $220 dollar symbol of my actually, really, no-shit, being a scholar. Such are the insecurities we carry through our lives.

The Shadow
- Saturday, March 16 2013 0:59:47

Ineresting new Reads, current and coming soon
While waiting for the new Ellison books, in case others are interested, thought I'd share some new and interesting reads -- current and forthcoming.

THE ACCURSED by Joyce Carol Oates -- Stephen King wrote a pretty good review of it in the NYTimes:


And -- are ya listenin' Mr. Ellison -- TATIANA by Martin Cruz Smith, out in November -- a bit of a wait, but anything by Martin Cruz Smith is worth it!

Chris Campbell <ilchriscampbell@gmail.com>
Maianbar, NSW - Friday, March 15 2013 22:59:27

As Tom has kindly offered to once again be the go-between I would love to adopt HARLAN ELLISON'S WATCHING. I don't think that I am up yet, but I'll also include my RabbitHole renewal (still a steal at $15?). And there seems to be a copy or two of SLEEPLESS available. Could I reserve one, personalized appreciated, but not required.
I'll contact Tom to work out the total.


Mary <hoffmann.mary7@gmail.com>
- Friday, March 15 2013 22:6:57

Before I hit the sack, I wanted to share...I often post photos on a site called Viewbug, and had entered a photo called "Sugar Lovers Delight" in a Best Use of Photo contest. I was up against some pretty stiff competition, but to my surprise, the judges awarded me a badge and made that photo one of their favorites.

Talk about making my day :)...

The photo's located here http://www.viewbug.com/photo/1864983

- Friday, March 15 2013 20:39:18


Re: your latest post. You are correct. So says Susan.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

- Friday, March 15 2013 17:50:28


I'll look for the Dr. Despicable action figure! Bet it's a priceless collectible by now!

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Friday, March 15 2013 16:50:32

HARLAN: On behalf of all of the children I worked with in early intervention who had NF1 or NF2 (never worked with a child who had Schwannomatosis), and their families, thank you.


Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Friday, March 15 2013 13:41:44

Doodle Viewing

The doodles Harlan referred to are here:


Waiting for Harlan's doodle to appear. If you'll pardon the expression.

- Friday, March 15 2013 13:27:53


In the mail today came a request from the Gillian Anderson website to do a doodle for DOODLE 4 NF. Each May, as part of the Neurofibratosis (NF) Awareness Montht he NF Network Organization auctions celebrity doodles to benefit families affected by the malaise. I was glad to do it. Just a note.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Tom Morgan
Silverado, CA - Friday, March 15 2013 12:24:16


Sorry for the second post but I (and perhaps others) need a quick clarification. The CA tax is just on books being sent to CA, correct? So I add it to my Repent but not to Chris's Watching?


- Friday, March 15 2013 9:39:44

Steve Barber--Confirmed.

Chris Campbell -- Watching is yours. Tom said he'll do the paypal thingy. No extra cost for overseas. Postage is my treat.

Doc -- Welcome Back and Confirmed.

Mike -- Do you want to take advantage of Greg's kindness?

All best--Susan

Brian Siano
- Friday, March 15 2013 9:33:1

Photos of Brooklyn kid gangs of 1959
Might be good to keep these images in mind while reading _Web of the City_ or _Memos from Purgatory_.

Tom Morgan <tjmorgan58 at cox dot net>
Silverado, CA - Friday, March 15 2013 8:15:35

Mini Purge
Still here and still willing to help.

Any overseas shipping charge on mini-purge items?

And since I haven't posted my PayPal blurb in a while I will do so now, maybe it will help with the mini-purge (regular readers go on to the next post, you have heard it before):

If it is not easy for you to send American dollars and if you or someone you trust has access to a PayPal account I can help you order items (or subscriptions) from Harlan. Let me know what you want to buy and the email associated with the PayPal account and wait for me to send you a request. I don't charge anything, the only extra you pay is what PayPal charges me, which is about 4%. I have done it for people all over the world and Susan and several of her customers can vouch that it works.

A good Ides of March to all here.

Mike Lane <mflane@odu.edu>
- Friday, March 15 2013 6:6:51

Book request

Thanks anyway. Sorry, I missed the posts other folks made for the books I requested. To Charlie, Greg and Mary ...Enjoy!

Chris Campbell <Ilchriscampbell@gmail.com>
Maianbar, NSW - Thursday, March 14 2013 21:44:54

HI Susan,

If HARLAN ELLISON'S WATCHING is still available, and if Tom Morgan is still willing to help we foreigners, I would like to reserve it.

Thanks ,

Mary <hoffmann.mary7@gmail.com>
- Thursday, March 14 2013 21:23:10

The Check is in The Mail
Will be counting down days until "Sleepless" arrives...oh joy :)...

Goodnight folks...

Greg Hurd
Alpena, MI - Thursday, March 14 2013 15:41:42

Mini Purge
Since I'm getting two of the "Sleepless" books I'd like to slide the Medea copy over to Mike if he wants it.

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Thursday, March 14 2013 15:25:34


You got a full page in the book which is what the publisher does for most of its titles. No other promotion in the catalog that I could see on my most recent flip-through. As soon as I'm done with it, I'll send it your way.

- Thursday, March 14 2013 14:33:36


Gremlins cut off the subject of that recent post. It should read:

a sample from HE's "You're Short"

I'll excuse m'self now ...

- Thursday, March 14 2013 14:17:30

PopeWorks, a sample from HE's

This seems appropriate at this time. From Harlan's Deep Shag first ON THE ROAD volume. The timing for this laff riot is spot on:


- Thursday, March 14 2013 14:9:40



It's been some considerable time since I checked actual stats, but at its liveliest, HERC had 1700 members. I'd estimate with the passage of time it's dropped closer to 1200, but you'd have to ask Susan for specifics; she and Sharon are the ones who lick the envelopes. She puts RABBIT HOLE together solo, and what a champ she is. Thanks for asking.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

- Thursday, March 14 2013 13:43:40

And "Good" seems to be missing an "o". And the kishkas are off - go with the kreplach.

Doc <drdespicable@gmail.com>
Los Angeles, CA - Thursday, March 14 2013 13:40:48

Unca Harlan, lor', 'ow I've missed ye! I'd have called, but I never know when you're busy; or NOT busy; and I've been waiting til I had stuff to talk about besides tsuris, sturm & drang, and like that. Be assured, my affection for you is deep, undiminished and entirely of a manly, Holmes & Watson-y nature.

Susan: If there is a MIND FIELDS available, would you please set it aside for me?

Rob: Glad you are entertained by Dr Despicable. It's been my internet-stage moniker for awhile now; I have/had podcasts and everything (apart from merchandise and profit; was even nominated for some podcasting award, the name of which eludes me... they hand 'em out at DragonCon). Let me know if you're interested, I'll e-zap you some urls.

Ah. God to be here, Try the kishkas. Now if only I could start writing again...

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.om>
Minneapolis, MN - Thursday, March 14 2013 12:40:21

word choice

You expect others to be careful about their word choices, Franky? Golden Rule, baby.

Bigotry is a strong subject.

My church sometimes tries to tiptoe around Leviticus, and sometimes it does not. So does yours, brother. You're talking about doctrine. Slippery slope that one. Your Bible contains an Old Testament, no?

In the future, I encourage you to be more precise in your criticism.

Steve Barber <thumbnailtraveler@verizon.net>
- Thursday, March 14 2013 11:46:0


SUSAN - One wish for a SLEEPLESS NIGHT in that Procrustean thingy. Check out tomorrow.

ALL - A few new ThumbnailTraveler posters, including the Harlan Ellison "YOU MUST NEVER BE AFRAID TO GO THERE".

Yes, I've taken it out of context (oh, like that NEVER happens to Unca Harlan!), but still a solid quote and match to the picture which makes an excellent point.


- Thursday, March 14 2013 10:44:54

Charlie/St.Pete - Confirmed.
Mary - Confirmed.
Greg - Confirmed.

Sorry, Mike, we no longer have any of the Ltd. Repent...or Medea.

All best--Susan

Frank Church
- Thursday, March 14 2013 10:23:33

Could I ask how many actual members of HERC there are? Curious is all.


Our media should stop pussy footing around about the Catholic church, using politically correct language. Their teachings against women priests and gays are bigoted. You should never water those truths down. The slippery slope leads to the Weimer republic.

Popey likes the poor but also Argentinian neo-nazis:


National Catholic Reporter, a fine magazine.

Mike Lane <mflane@odu.edu>
Norfolk, va - Thursday, March 14 2013 5:59:8


I would really really like a copy of Medea and one of the Repent Harlequin books. Could you reserve copies for me pleeeease? Thanks to both of you and my condolences to Harlan on the loss of yet another stash of books. I know I'm in part responsible but I can't help myself.

Greg Hurd
Alpena, MI - Thursday, March 14 2013 4:59:57

More mini
Any chance for 2 "Sleepless Nights"? Will send personalization info. Gift giving time.

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Wednesday, March 13 2013 22:15:0


Thank you for the positive review. If you would like more of the same, we’ve started a poetry thread here:

Scroll above, click on “Webderland Forums”, then “General”, then “Spill Yer Guts”.

If you please, leave a comment.


Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Wednesday, March 13 2013 21:24:24

Here are the words I never thought I would be writing.

Today in Tony Isabella's Bloggy Thing...

My review of the Black Lightning movie:


Mary <hoffmann.mary7@gmail.com>
- Wednesday, March 13 2013 19:30:36

A Request
Any chance "Sleepless Nights in the Procrustean Bed" is still available?

I'd love one :).

Thank you...

Charlie <St. Pete>
FL, - Wednesday, March 13 2013 17:59:3

Susan, I'll take the 3rd Medea. Did you include shipping in your prices? HE's signature is fine w/o personalization. thx.

- Wednesday, March 13 2013 17:44:16

GREG HURD: MEDEA confirmed. Thank you.


Greg Hurd
Alpena, MI, - Wednesday, March 13 2013 16:4:55

Mini Purge
Another Medea available? Signed please.

- Wednesday, March 13 2013 13:52:17

Shagin confirmed. Thank you. Susan

- Wednesday, March 13 2013 13:49:48


Nice to have you back in the paddock.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Wednesday, March 13 2013 13:49:28

SUSAN: I would like a copy of MEDEA please. I'll have the check in the mail in the next day or two. Personalized would be lovely, thank you.


After 5 weeks on more antibiotics than a McDonald's soy-cow, I took my last dose last night (4 rounds of IV antibiotics, up to 4 oral antibiotics at the same time). Here's hoping things have run their course.


- Wednesday, March 13 2013 11:26:59

Steve and Tom confirmed.

Lori Koonce--no need to renew yet. Your last issue is 54.

Steve Barr--You've got one more issue before you need renew.

Thank you. Susan

Tom Morgan
Silverado, CA - Wednesday, March 13 2013 11:1:37

Mini purge
I will go for the other Repent.


Steve Barr <sbarr1@kc.surewest.net>
Overland Park, Kansas - Wednesday, March 13 2013 10:27:50

May I have one of the "REPENT, HARLEQUIN!" SAID THE TICKTOCKMAN. Underwood Books. Hardcovers please?
( I also think that I need to renew my RabitHole Membership.)
Thanks ! .... sorry for the double post, but I didn't want to miss out. I am banished for a few days

- Wednesday, March 13 2013 10:4:16


Found a few Ellison mint titles:thought you might be interested:

SLEEPLESS NIGHTS IN THE PROCRUSTEAN BED. 1984, Borgo Press. Trade Paperback, First Printing. $30.00. 18 copies.

MEDEA: HARLAN'S WORLD. Bantam Books, 1985. Trade Paperback. First Printing. $30.00. 3 copies available.

THE GLASS TEAT. Ace Paperback. First Edition. $50.00.

HARLAN ELLISON'S WATCHING. Hardcover. Limited,Boxed,Numbered #351. $130.00

MIND FIELDS. Morpheus Trade Paperback. $25.00. 3 copies.

"REPENT, HARLEQUIN!" SAID THE TICKTOCKMAN. Underwood Books. Hardcover,Boxed,Numbered #5 & #6. $60.00 each. 2 copies.

Reserve on this website. CA sales tax 9%. Send your check payable to: THE KILIMANJARO CORPORATION, P.O. Box 55548, Sherman Oaks, CA 91413. You can request personalization.

First come, first served.

Thank you--Susan

- Wednesday, March 13 2013 9:32:49


"Dr. Despicable"...I LIKE that!


"Out Of Print"

I never DID like THAT!

Steve Barr
Overland Park, Kansas - Wednesday, March 13 2013 6:38:43

Unca Harlan,
Thrilled at the prospect of Ellison 'out of print, rare extras' being out there and in your care.
Susan, please advise us if any of them need a caretaker!! My birthday is at the end of the month and I tend to indulge myself with items that I treasure.


James Levy <susjpl@hofstra.edu>
Syosset, New York - Wednesday, March 13 2013 5:10:21

Harlan, my wife calls it "paring down"

If she's in that mood, she's in that mood. Just stand back and hope she doesn't excise anything vital while she's got the knife out.

And remember: there is no good retort when she says, "We could use the money." When do "we" not?

Good Luck,

James Levy

Lori Koonce
San Francisco, CA - Tuesday, March 12 2013 18:47:11

Hey Susan
Can you please let me know if I need to renew my HERC membership?

And would it be possible to do for multiple years if I do? And the final question, can I pay by postal money order?



Charles Edward Pogue
- Tuesday, March 12 2013 17:14:43

Back from London
Harlan, Julieanne and I are back from London. Just thought I'd check in and say Howdy, old son!

Charles Edward Pogue <cepogue@roadrunner.com>
- Tuesday, March 12 2013 17:14:10

Back from London
Harlan, Julieanne and I are back from London. Just thought I'd check in and say Howdy, old son!

- Tuesday, March 12 2013 15:10:54

Or soothe, even!

Doc <drdespicable@gmail.com>
Los Angeles, CA - Tuesday, March 12 2013 15:9:56

Yikes, Harlan! What can I do to sooth you? Corn rye from Nate & Al's? Matzoh ball soup or hot pastrami from Langer's? I am yours to command! And I deliver! Cheap!

- Tuesday, March 12 2013 13:19:27


Susan went ferreting through units and shelving containing (here's why it's scary) nothing but Harlan Ellison books, out of print, rare extras, et al.

This cannot mean well for my peace of mind.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Diane Bartels <dianebartels99 @comcast.net>
Merrionette Park, IL - Monday, March 11 2013 13:4:50

Just a general hi to everyone, especially the General Harlan and his lady. Also, Steven, the forums seem to have forgotten me and my password. I shall keep trying. DB

oz - Monday, March 11 2013 12:32:32

SUSAN: Thanks for getting back to me -- especially with all that's going on in your life and Harlan's.

I did, indeed, receive that last HERC, number 52, so all is well with the post office doings. And my address is still the same.
(I'll have Mr. Barber, who kindly offered to whisper in your ear next time he calls, pass it on again, to confirm).

And, yes, my last issue of 60 would mean you got the cheque and cashed. Groovy.

All best wishes to you and Harlan, as always.

- Monday, March 11 2013 12:16:29



D.M. Sherwood - Port Talbot, England. Does anyone have a new address? Thanks.

DORMAN: We must have received your renewal because I have your last issue as #60. Did you receive issue #52 with the free SEX GANG postcards? Let me know. If not, I'll send another RH#52 with a new/correct address. You are current but, I think, the post office may have messed up. So...

1) Did you get Rabbit Hole #52?
2) I need your new (?) address.

With all kindness--Susan

Clipping Service
- Monday, March 11 2013 11:56:49

Pay The Writer!
One of the best (paid) writers in America, the great Charles Pierce, on The Atlantic Affair.....


A must read, for many reasons.....

Chuck Messer
- Monday, March 11 2013 11:53:18

The Return of Dr. Despicable

Nice to see the return of a familiar voice to these parts. Welcome back!


St. Pete, FL - Monday, March 11 2013 8:57:4

Doc, good to see you posting again.

Doc <drdespicable@gmail.com>
Los Angeles, CA - Monday, March 11 2013 8:44:30

I've been away too long. I've missed you - well, most of you. Harlan, we should chat, sometime. Or nosh. Or something.

Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
Saugerties, New York 12477 - Monday, March 11 2013 6:49:22

No more.
Here is a laugh because I am just that kind of fool but no more. I debated if it was fair to take and Editor to civil court in my town to sue for the rights back of my writing work because it would put her out. No more. I am getting the paperwork in order and when that is done I will get a court date and get this done. It is personal. It was against the law and by God it is my work. I will honor it and myself. I want the rights to my writing back!

- Sunday, March 10 2013 17:58:44


I knew I had a secret, inevitable destiny on this thorny trail. Now I can succor sublime knowing it was saving your life.

Good on both of us, mate.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Yr. Pal, Harlan

lonegungirl <jnyama2@gmail.com>
Los Angeles, CA - Sunday, March 10 2013 17:32:7

Just a pop-in to mention that, for those in the LA area and who share my Ronald Colman adoration, the Art Deco Society is presenting a screening of Lost Horizon at the Egyptian, March 16.

Someone asked on Twitter this week for 5 favorite short stories--something of a struggle to come up with non-HE ones!

Sincere hopes for good things...

Dan Restione <Drestione@973kiro.com>
Seattle, Washington - Sunday, March 10 2013 13:15:25

Above and Beyond
You really didn't have to you know, I was already a great admirer and loyal reader. I had already reaped many excellent, strange harvests from the seeds sown in your stories (some of which I cursed you for) and your reccomendarions have led me to some excellent authors. I've used your words to slap down some of the assholes I've run into and stimulate some of the real humans I've met as well.
So you really didn't have to help save my friggin life.
But two weeks ago when I started having bizarre pressure in my chest, you and your introduction to "Slippage" convinced me to call 911. Sure enough, I was paying the cardiac fiddler for the song of excess that I'd been playing for 50 years. They treated me and I'm back home now learning to deal with a slightly pissed off and damaged heart.
So...while you didn't have to, thanks for the heads up that led to a second chance.
Course...if I do something really awful in the time I have left, then it's your fault.


Frank Church
- Sunday, March 10 2013 11:34:21

Noam Chomsky once again proves why he is such a force of truth and majesty: He was interviewed, asked about the media, he made the analogy of a cup full of boiling water--you drop the cup of water, steam rises up, the cup falls down; explain the scientific process of what just happened? He made the point that the media just mentions the cup falling, the steam rising up, but they do not explain the scientific process of the steam rising and the falling cup falling. Normal analysis is now radical and crazy. I feel good being one of the crazies.

Mark Barsotti <markbeach60@yahoo.com>
San Diego, CA - Sunday, March 10 2013 11:30:21

Below is a blog post about Harlan's aborted adaptation of "Nackles" by Donald Westlake from the old new Twilight Zone:



Michael Rapoport
- Sunday, March 10 2013 10:9:43

I know there are a number of fans of William Friedkin and "Sorcerer" here, so, some news: The Brooklyn Academy of Music is planning a Friedkin retrospective in May, with "Sorcerer" as the opening-night film, followed by a Q & A with the director:


John E. Williams
- Sunday, March 10 2013 8:31:31

Twohy wrote the 90s FUGITIVE, which is still one of the niftier thrillers I have seen. What a great Saturday to have.

- Sunday, March 10 2013 6:5:11


Steve Swanson
Maple Grove, MN - Sunday, March 10 2013 6:3:0

Misc Stuff
Mr. Ellison gets a posting on "This Day In Science ..."


This is a site I learned about from you folks so Thank You.

Also "Zen Pencils" has become a fav so Thank You.

AND a big Thank You to whoever mantioned the sequel to "A Dog on Barkham Street", "The Bully of Barkham Street" where the same story from "Dog" is told but from the view of a bully who works out the problems he has. It was a wonderful story.

Now fading back into the muck ...

EU - Sunday, March 10 2013 1:55:19

Scientology Mythbusting with Jon Atack: And With Help From Harlan Ellison!

Bibliodicotheque on Web of the City - www.southcountymusic.com/podcast/harlan-ellison-web-of-the-city/

Publishers Weekly - http://www.publishersweekly.com/978-1-78116-420-4

Rough Beasts review at The Fright Site - http://www.fright.com/edge/RoughBeasts.htm

The Outer Limits: box set review in The Guardian, highlighting Harlan's episodes

Have a good Sunday everyone!

- Sunday, March 10 2013 1:11:36

Remembering Gene Siskel

Not to change the subject, but I found this astonishingly hilarious outtake of Gene & Roger in their hayday botching their take for a promotion on their next "AT THE MOVIES".

Please watch it all the way through: the two guys - as they kinda get off the subject - prove to be the sharpest stand-up act in Chicago.

They really were remarkable together:


jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Saturday, March 9 2013 21:54:55

I was an assistant editor on CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK and also the director's cut DVD. So I remember David Twohy quite well. It was an intense but very fond memory for me. And I am very bummed that I didn't get the chance to be a part of the team on the new movie. Alas. Perhaps I'll get another chance when he makes your DEMON WITH A GLASS HAND. Put in a good word for me if you speak with him soon. Jimmy says 'hi'' and is still waiting for that cinerama screening he promised of IT'S A MAD, MAD WORLD.


Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
Saugerties, New York 12477 - Saturday, March 9 2013 19:38:12

RID DICK Amazing good news. Thanks for the heads up.Great you are having good days. All of them and more in the future. Our fine friend deserves each and every one and then some. marjorie

- Saturday, March 9 2013 18:10:22


Oh this has been a week for celebrities coming by. One of my favorite directors, David Twohy (PITCH BLACK, THE ARRIVAL, WATER WORLD, etc.) brought lunch for a million people, and we sat for five hours just cutting up touches. He, of course, asked after all of you, and I told him that apart from the ant infestation, all was well. He just finished the third film in the trilogy, RIDDICK, with Vin Diesel, and you should watch for it in September from Universal. It sounded great in the retelling.

I think I need some sleep. Yr. Pal, Harlan

oz - Saturday, March 9 2013 13:42:12

Hi, Susan,

In case this got lost in the shuffle when I sent it quite early in the morning (your time), I'm resending. And I remembered to include my membership number with the question this time.

Just wondering if you recently received a letter with a bank cheque for my HERC renewal: HERC #1168.

All best wishes for nothing but Blue Skies to you and Harlan,

Janet Gamache
Victoria, BC - Saturday, March 9 2013 12:42:51

Lovely quotation
in need of
If you
do not
report in
none of us
where we are.


shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Saturday, March 9 2013 12:7:33

MARY: Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed the stories.

Now, back to Hawaii and a contest to build the first aero-flyer.



Mary <hoffmann.mary1@gmail.com>
- Saturday, March 9 2013 9:28:52

For Harlan and Shagin
Harlan: I'd better see the dancing hamsters surrounding the announcement of the release of "A Boy and his Dog" on Blu-Ray. Not only that, but I think some fireworks are in order, maybe other celebratory things...wait, too much? I just can't wait to see the interview. I agree with another sentiment posted here...I would have loved to have been the proverbial fly on the wall when you and the director talked for 5 hours.

Shagin: The day that our beloved host came back to the Art Deco Dining Pavilion was the day your book arrived. Didn't care that the holidays had come and gone, I'd heard so much about this book, I dug right in.

You have joined Harlan as one of my favorite writers. I am personally setting aside a place for all your tomes, right next to the man himself. I laughed myself silly at the tribute to the three French Hens, and "To Speak of Metal Men and Birds of War" had me in tears. You not only tugged at the heartstrings, you made me think of the horrors of war and so much more. "T'is the Season" was brilliant! Now I read that you're working on a young adult Steampunk novel set in the Hawaiian Islands. I am now the young kid eagerly asking "So when's it coming out, huh, huh?"

Keep up the good work. I really enjoy your writing.

Cheers folks...and don't forget to set your clocks forward tomorrow.

Adam-Troy Castro
- Saturday, March 9 2013 8:9:13

I saw BLACK LIGHTNING. It's a russian superhero movie, and the college student protagonist is, in a phrase, Piotr Parker.

Wide-screen? See 13 ASSASSINS.

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Saturday, March 9 2013 3:56:8

Good morning, my friends. If all goes well, this evening's movie will be...BLACK LIGHTNING. Not my Black Lightning, mind you, but some Russian action film about a car. There's another Black Lightning movie, but I don't expect I'll ever see it. It was a silent movie about a horse. I envision a team-up of my character, the car, and the horse...




Coming soon to a theater inside my head.

- Friday, March 8 2013 21:14:30


Within minutes of my urgent post, Finder Doug Lane had called to
remind me its the lead-in to chapter 7 of SLEEPLESS NIGHTS IN THE PROCRUSTEAN BED. Then the rst of you found its reprise in the new edition of PAINGOD.

My humble thanks to all of you. You un-pickled my pickle.

Yr. pal, Harlan

Ben Winfield
- Friday, March 8 2013 18:42:43

Harlan Goes Blu

To hell with "Avatar". THIS is the reason I blew a hefty chunk of my hard-earned cash for a LED flat-screen tv. I want a "Ben-Hur" level of quality restoration for this bad mutha.

Tom Hensley <tom@diamondville.com>
Sherman Oaks, CA - Friday, March 8 2013 15:56:38

Irwin Shaw
Okay, if I'd been faster on my feet, I'd have noticed that someone else already dealt with this. Sorry.

Tom Hensley <tom@diamondville.com>
Sherman Oaks, CA - Friday, March 8 2013 15:55:35

Irwin Shaw
A quick search shows you used it in the new introduction to "Paingod and Other Delusions." Might not be the one you seek, but there it is.

Tony Rabig
Parsons, KS - Friday, March 8 2013 15:51:22

Shaw quote
You used the quote near the end of the new introduction to PAINGOD & OTHER DELUSIONS, "Your Basic Crown of Thorns."


Daniel B
- Friday, March 8 2013 15:47:17

Irwin Shaw
The postscript to Marty Clark's introduction to Sleepless Nights in the Procrustean Bed:

The explanations a writer gives himself for having written any particular book are often not the real reasons why that book has been written. Honesty is not the issue. Understanding is. A man does not write one novel at a time or one play at a time or even one quatrain at a time. He is engaged in the long process of putting his whole life on paper. He is on a journey and he is reporting in: "This is where I think I am and this is what this place looks like today."

—Irwin Shaw, 1964

Tony Rabig
Parsons, KS - Friday, March 8 2013 15:33:30

Shaw quote
Harlan, I don't have a copy of the collection, but I think this was in Shaw's intro to the collection GOD WAS HERE BUT HE LEFT EARLY.

If you have a copy handy, you might check there. If I can't find the reference online somewhere, I'll have access to a printed copy to double-check my memory on Monday morning.



- Friday, March 8 2013 15:26:51

Here I am in a bit moret han just a pickle. There is a paragraph-long quotation from the novelist Irwin Shaw, which begins something like "The reasons a writer gives for having written a certain piece of writing are uually not the resaons it was written at all. A writer does not write one novel at a time, nor one play, nor even one quatrain. ... He is on a long voyage and he is reporting in: this is where I am today, and this is what this place looks like today."

That is woefully incomplete, and a lot wrong, but it has been on my wall above my typewriter for years, and I need it for an introduction I'm laboring over. But the paper on which the Shaw is memorialized has shredded and just fallen away over the many decades, and now I cannot make out the words I need. I am stumped, flustered, embargo'd and outta steam. I need it complete.

Now I have used this piece as aphorism at one or another place in one or another of my works, but after 100 books, I cannot remember where it appears. To all effects, it is lost to me, and I flounder.

I am desperately in need of the good offices of one or more of you who might recognize it, and either get it to me or, less bothersome, direct me to it...in my works or elsewhere.

This is fairly important to me at the moment, so if anyone has a spare moment...thank you in advance.

Woefully blathered, Harlan

Dirk Wickenden <dirkwickenden@yahoo.com>
Maidstone, Kent - Friday, March 8 2013 6:41:35

My Book on Kindle
Hi Harlan et al

Hope you are all doing well.

I don't know if it's the done thing mentioning on here but I have recently made available on Amazon Kindle my short story collection 'Inside Outside My Head'. It's a mixture of SF, metaphysical, satire and more. I wanted to go the real book route (I don't have a Kindle myself, I'm defintely a real book man - just ask my wife about the books filling the house and even more currently in storage!) but in the end decided to go for it.

Anyway, I hope some of you will like to have a look at my work (I've had non fiction published in printed film music magazines since 1993 but never my fiction). I won't post the link here, in case it is against etiquette but just search for the title above. In my dedication, I include Harlan - here is the dedication in context:-

This book is for my wife Katharine Jane Wickenden nee Woodford and our son (when he’s old enough to read!), Adam Silvio Wickenden.

~ In Memoriam ~

Derek Charles Henry Wickenden (1933 – 2006)
Daphne Georgina Wickenden nee Tallent (1936 – 2003)

To those writers past and present, whose influence might (or might not!) be felt in my own writing – Harlan Ellison, Ray Bradbury, Michael Crichton, Jorges Luis Borges and Ambrose Bierce.

To the Space Family Robinson… the Six Million Dollar Man… the Daleks… Robbie the Robot… Captain Kirk, Mr Spock and Dr McCoy… Galen, Virdon and Burke… the Banana Splits… the Double Deckers… Luke, Obi-Wan, Han and Leia, Threepio and Artoo… Blake, Avon and Vila… Logan 5 and Jessica 6... Spider-Man… Superman… the Incredible Hulk and many more too numerous to mention… my personal Golden Age of the 1970s…

Thanks for listening,


oz - Friday, March 8 2013 3:4:10

Question for Susan Ellison
Hi, Susan,

Just wondering if you recently received a letter with a bank cheque for my HERC renewal.

All best wishes for nothing but Blue Skies to you and Harlan,

- Thursday, March 7 2013 16:30:55


Great news about the Blu-ray edition. I'd really like to have a T-shirt emblazoned with the bottom half of the poster:


A Cafe Press gig?

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Thursday, March 7 2013 14:13:13

A Blu-Ray And His Dog

Oh boy oh boy, A BOY AND HIS DOG on Blu-Ray, with Harlan and L.Q. talking. Excellent news. I assume that, on this occasion, the people preparing the disc decided they would "pay the writer" and have therefore secured a must-have extra for their disc.

I hope they do the right thing with the movie itself, and give it a good new transfer from a high-quality print or negative.

- Thursday, March 7 2013 12:57:37

On the subject of anarchistic laughter, Laurel & Hardy films are re-burgeoning on t.v.

Last weekend, caught a pre-hays, THEIR FIRST MISTAKE, wherein the two adopt a baby. At one point, Oliver orders Stan to feed the baby; Stan starts opening his shirt, to Ollie's startled double take, suggesting he's about to breast feed! Of course, we find he'd had a bottle under there. This was after their duet of manque-husband & wife, where Stan is about to leave, and Ollie berates him for leaving him alone with the infant (earlier, Ollie's wife, 'Mae Busch', left him in outrage) - "after all they meant to each other"! These guys had a good number of suggestive gay relationships, and this was a really funny example.

Kenneth Stevens <stevens.kenneth@gmail.com>
Knoxville, Tennessee - Thursday, March 7 2013 12:47:13

The anarchy of laughter

I've never seen any of the Hangover movies but found myself laughing hard at the trailer's end, possibly because of the knowledge that someone else found it so deeply offensive. We laugh at what we are compelled to laugh at.

Adam-Troy Castro
- Thursday, March 7 2013 12:27:54

A Trailer That Just Plain Pisses Me Off
I actually *liked* the first HANGOVER movie. I did. I didn't see it in in the theatre, but when I caught it on cable I considered it low comedy to be sure, but I found the mystery at its center well conceived and many of the jokes genuinely funny.

A key element I heard about HANGOVER II struck me as so offensive -- and not deliberately offensive; we-never-realized-it-was-offensive offensive; unexamined-part-of-the-happy-ending offensive -- that I stayed away, even when it hit cable.

Here's the trailer for the third installment.

I was actually willing to consider this with an open mind. And I gotta tell ya: it's rare that a TRAILER includes a joke that enrages me so much there's no chance of me seeing the movie. Here, it's the big set-piece the trailer ends with. Somebody thought it was funny. I'll be irritated by it for hours.


Jacob Javits
- Thursday, March 7 2013 6:26:57

If Brains Were Dynamtie Department: Frank Church
The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000.

That is about 20 per cent of global population.

They have received the following Nobel Prizes-


1988 – Najib Mahfooz


1978 – Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat

1990 – Elias James Corey

1994 – Yaser Arafat:

1999 – Ahmed Zewai






1960 – Peter Brian Medawar

1998 – Ferid Mourad


One for every173 milion, roughly.

The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000; that is FOURTEEN MILLION or about 0.2 per cent of the world’s population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes.


1910 – Paul Heyse

1927 – Henri Bergson

1958 – Boris Pasternak

1966 – Shmuel Yosef Agnon

1966 – Nelly Sachs

1976 – Saul Bellow

1978 – Isaac Bashevis Singer

1981 – Elias Canetti

1987 – Joseph Brodsky

1991 – Nadine Gordimer

World Peace

1911 – Alfred Fried

1911 – Tobias Mi chae l Carel Asser

1968 – Rene Cassin

1973 – Henry Kissinger

1978 – Menachem Begin

1986 – Elie Wiesel

1994 – Shimon Peres

1994 – Yitzhak Rabin


1905 – Adolph Von Baeyer

1906 – Henri Moissan

1907 – Albert Abraham Michelson

1908 – Gabriel Lippmann

1910 – Otto Wallach

1915 – Richard Willstaetter

1918 – Fritz Haber

1921 – Albert Einstein

1922 – Niels Bohr

1925 – James Franck

1925 – Gustav Hertz

1943 – Gustav Stern

1943 – George Charles de Hevesy

1944 – Isidor Issac Rabi

1952 – Felix Bloch

1954 – Max Born

1958 – Igor Tamm

1959 – Emilio Segre

1960 – Donald A. Glaser

1961 – Robert Hofstadter

1961 – Melvin Calvin

1962 – Lev Davidovich Landau

1962 – Max Ferdinand Perutz

1965 – Richard Phillips Feynman

1965 – Julian Schwinger

1969 – Murray Gell-Mann

1971 – Dennis Gabor

1972 – William Howard Stein

1973 – Brian David Josephson

1975 – Benjamin Mottleson

1976 – Burton Richter

1977 – Ilya Prigogine

1978 – Arno Allan Penzias

1978 – Peter L Kapitza

1979 – Stephen Weinberg

1979 – Sheldon Glashow

1979 – Herbert Charles Brown

1980 – Paul Berg

1980 – Walter Gilbert

1981 – Roald Hoffmann

1982 – Aaron Klug

1985 – Albert A. Hauptman

1985 – Jerome Karle

1986 – Dudley R. Herschbach

1988 – Robert Huber

1988 – Leon Lederman

1988 – Melvin Schwartz

1988 – Jack Steinberger

1989 – Sidney Altman

1990 – Jerome Friedman

1992 – Rudolph Marcus

1995 – Martin Perl

2000 – Alan J. Heeger


1970 – Paul Anthony Samuelson

1971 – Simon Kuznets

1972 – Kenneth Joseph Arrow

1975 – Leonid Kantorovich

1976 – Milton Friedman

1978 – Herbert A. Simon

1980 – Lawrence Robert Klein

1985 – Franco Modigliani

1987 – Robert M. Solow

1990 – Harry Markowitz

1990 – Merton Miller

1992 – Gary Becker

1993 – Robert Fogel


1908 – Elie Metchnikoff

1908 – Paul Erlich

1914 – Robert Barany

1922 – Otto Meyerhof

1930 – Karl Landsteiner

1931 – Otto Warburg

1936 – Otto Loewi

1944 – Joseph Erlanger

1944 – Herbert Spencer Gasser

1945 – Ernst Boris Chain

1946 – Hermann Joseph Muller

1950 – Tadeus Reichstein

1952 – Selman Abraham Waksman

1953 – Hans Krebs

1953 – Fritz Albert Lipmann

1958 – Joshua Lederberg

1959 – Arthur Kornberg

1964 – Konrad Bloch

1965 – Francois Jacob

1965 – Andre Lwoff

1967 – George Wald

1968 – Marshall W. Nirenberg

1969 – Salvador Luria

1970 – Julius Axelrod

1970 – Sir Bernard Katz

1972 – Gerald Maurice Edelman

1975 – Howard Martin Temin

1976 – Baruch S. Blumberg

1977 – Roselyn Sussman Yalow

1978 – Daniel Nathans

1980 – Baruj Benacerraf

1984 – Cesar Milstein

1985 – Mi chae l Stuart Brown

1985 – Joseph L. Goldstein

1986 – Stanley Cohen & Rita Levi-Montalcini

1988 – Gertrude Elion

1989 – Harold Varmus

1991 – Erwin Neher

1991 – Bert Sakmann

1993 – Richard J. Roberts

1993 – Phillip Sharp

1994 – Alfred Gilman

1995 – Edward B. Lewis

1996 – Lu RoseIacovino


One for every 11 thousand, roughly.

So maybe we can cut them Jews some slack, eh, what do you think, Frank?

Yeah, it’s tough that the Palestinians have to ride separate buses from all them Jews what don’t like getting blowed up by, well, (brace yourself rank) mostly Palestinians?

Beautiful Northridge, CA - Thursday, March 7 2013 0:48:4

Such exciting news about that Ellison-Jones interview! Can't wait to see it. Was there pizza? Heh Heh.

I am reposting the links to the Harlan Ellison special from Masters of Fantasy (which I actually found more interesting and informative than DREAMS WITH SHARP TEETH). Therein, Mr. Ellison proudly displays his "half-Hugo" for the film adaptation of A BOY AND HIS DOG. It is just the stand, minus the beautiful rocket sculpture on top.

You get to see the lovely Susan, and the two are show cuddling while Mr. Ellison reads from MIND FIELDS. She has bangs that are neatly combed over her forehead and appear like a thin delicate curtain.

Part 1


Part 2




Listening now to Explosions in the Sky on headphones while sipping a glass of red zinfandel that I brought back from my recent road trip up north. The animated official music video of "Last Known Surroundings" is breathtaking, showing obvious influences of Roger Dean. I got a lump in my throat when I saw the snowflakes drifting down on that beautiful landscape reminiscent of Japanese woodblock prints, especially those of the California landscape by artist Tom Killion. That recurring aching slide guitar wailing in the upper registers reminds me of Ellison's "wind crying endlessly through the universe." I like what someone wrote, how "It reminds me of the life and death of things. Of creation and destruction and of beauty while it lasts—but how quickly it fades away only to be replaced by something even more beautiful. The cycle of life is so wonderful! "

"Last Known Surroundings" animated official music video:


Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Wednesday, March 6 2013 18:13:40

Can't wait to see that Ellison-Jones extravaganza! Please keep us posted as to the release date! Oh to have been a fly on the wall...

chic., - Wednesday, March 6 2013 17:50:47

We're all lucky to be here
Songwriter: ALVIN LEE

"There's someone somewhere who can't go on
Their life is crying, it's all gone wrong
What can I say now to help you through
Except to say that I've been there too? "

"I'd love to change the world"
Wouldn't we all.

- Wednesday, March 6 2013 17:48:20


In preparation for the big milti-media Blu-Ray release of the remastered A BOY AND HIS DOG later this year, I did a five hour filmed interview/conversation with L.Q. Jones, the director. It's been forty years, and this is is actually the first time LQ and I have sat in front of a camera and talked about the genesis of the story, the rigors of making this film, and the icon it has become. It was a smashing session, and I presume it will be a "cookie" added to the new release. Quite a day!

Yr. pal, Harlan

Alamogordo, NM - Wednesday, March 6 2013 16:10:13

Like everyone else here, I was glad to see your post, Unc. All the best to you and Susan, always.

My bet, by the way, is that Charon wouldn't stand a chance. You'd end up with a bagful of pennies, a new boat and a three-headed dog before he knew what hit him.

Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
saugerties, - Wednesday, March 6 2013 12:40:18

What is not lost...
I could not bear to lose you Harlan such a consent touch stone and hope for reason in my life for 50 years so stay with us and stay well and as joyful as is possible. marjorie

York, PA - Wednesday, March 6 2013 9:45:34

Tim Raven - your poem knocked me out... liked the image (and truth) of the heart as a carrier of memories, souls we've loved. Lovely.

Harlan Ellison - live long enough, and you're guaranteed a broken, battered heart. It's the curse of those who have loved well and who have lived long. Sorry for all of us who start to count more of our beloved on the other side - it only gets harder.

Frank Church
- Wednesday, March 6 2013 8:45:26

It's amazing everybody is dumping on Dennis Rodman. Sure he's a weirdo, but so is Kim; that might be the way to chill out North Korea. The lord does work in mysterious ways, people!

Watch the media dump on uncle Hugo. God bless him. I don't know if the US gave him the cancer, but it is possible. They wanted him dead years ago. Look out.

In other news: Wonderful Israel has upped their class factor by having segregated busses, one for Palestinians, one for others. Israeli idiocy never amazes me.


Harlan, saneville is great, better donuts.

Kenneth Stevens <stevens.kenneth@gmail.com>
Knoxville, Tennessee - Tuesday, March 5 2013 22:29:9

Even The Atlantic!

On his blog, Peabody Award-winning journalist Nate Thayer tells the eye-opening story of how an editor at the Atlantic’s website asked him to write a piece on Dennis Rodman’s recent North Korea visit. When Thayer was crass enough to mention the matter of payment, she made it clear that her employer, the Atlantic Media Company, publisher not only of The Atlantic but also National Journal, The Hotline, The Almanac of American Politics, and a number of other periodicals and books, expected that veteran reporter to work for free.

I mention it here only because one of the commenters at Thayer’s blog includes a link to Harlan Ellison’s “pay the writer” YouTube video, which, I am happy to note, seems to be having a salutary effect on many freelancers.


Paul Hull <vaughnrichards@yahoo.com>
ATX, - Tuesday, March 5 2013 21:9:36

Good news on the Ellison home front. Stay well, stay strong, my liege.

On a more humorous note, I just received spam-mail for my "most reliable horoscopes".
My aura, she is all a-tingle....

The Shadow
- Tuesday, March 5 2013 18:49:7

The Return of Harlan Ellison, and, if I were a Publishing God
Supercalifragilistic to learn that you are up and around, putting one foot in front of the other, Mr. Ellison. Looking forward to the many books you'd put in the publishing pipeline headed our way this year -- reprints of WEB OF THE CITY, NIGHTSHADES & DAMNATIONS, GENTLEMAN JUNKIE and THE DEADLY STREETS; CUTTER'S WORLD; and, last but not least, 7 AGAINST CHAOS (featuring the marvelous illustrations of Paul Chadwick). That's half-a-dozen books in as many months! Ellison Excelsior!

Don't know if the 60-year edition of THE ESSENTIAL ELLISON was approved, but if not, a couple of Best of volumes (fiction and nonfiction) from Subterranean would be pretty terrific, too. If I were a Publishing God, the first volume would look like so:

1. "'Repent, Harlequin!' Said the Tick-Tock Man"
2. "Daniel White For the Greater Good"
3. "I Have No Mouth & I Must Scream"
4. "Shattered Like a Glass Goblin"
5. "The Beast That Shouted Love at the Heart of the World"
6. "Pretty Maggie Moneyeyes"
7. "The Resurgence of Miss Ankle-Strap Wedgie"
8. "A Boy and His Dog"
9. "Basilisk"
10."On the Downhill Side"
11."The Whimper of Whipped Dogs"
13."The Deathbird"
14."Adrift Just Off the Islets of Langerhans..."
17."Jeffty is Five"
18."All The Lies That Are My Life"
20."Laugh Track"
21."Soft Monkey"
22."Paladin of the Lost Hour"
23."The Function of Dream Sleep"
24."From A to Z In The Sarsaparilla Alphabet"
26."The Man Who Rowed Christopher Columbus Ashore"
27."Mefisto in Onyx"
28."Chatting With Anubis"
29."Incognita, Inc."
30."How Intersting: A Tiny Man"

Steambird Springs, Lost State Of Franklin - Tuesday, March 5 2013 17:26:12

In which I ask Harlan for a favor
Mear Unca Harlan,

A Distinguished Documentary Film Make Friend has finished a five year project on the fight to save the California Condor from exrinction.

He idesires Noted Film Reviewer Persons to screen the film.

Be you interested in a DVD (or Blu-Ray) of said film via HERC)?

Thanks for your time.

Amparion AKA Kim Owen Smith

Saul Trabal <ghost_kingdom@yahoo.com>
New Jersey - Tuesday, March 5 2013 17:9:56

My apologies for my insensitivity
Mr. Ellison,

Forgive me for my insensitivity-I should have scrolled down further. I am deeply, deeply sorry for your loss. My mom is 84 years old and her health is declining. I'm sitting here, pained deeply by her fading health. I lost my dad 9 days before the 9/11 attacks on New York City. I have a photo of him standing with my aunts, and off in the distance, right behind him, are the Twin Towers.

You once said getting old is not for wussies. Truer words have never been spoken.

Jim Thomas
Birmingham, AL, - Tuesday, March 5 2013 13:25:36

I'm an infrequent poster, but if you would, please say a prayer/offer a good thought for my mother. She had a serious complication following hip surgery and is currently in an unresponsive state. The doctors are continuing to run tests, but the prognosis is not good.

Mary <hoffmann.mary7@gmail.com>
- Tuesday, March 5 2013 13:19:49

Welcome Back!
Good to see you're still with us...the world still needs you, Harlan...stick around, there's still more fun to be had.

Here if you need us.

Peace, folks...

Justin <justinsluyter@gmail.com>
Evanston, IL - Tuesday, March 5 2013 13:5:51


It is so good to hear that you're feeling ever so slightly better. We love you. It hurts to see you hurt.

Saul Trabal <ghost_kingdom@yahoo.com>
New Jersey - Tuesday, March 5 2013 13:0:5

Unca Harlan's sound advice: "I don't take a piss without getting paid for it!!" Here's yet another example why:


- Tuesday, March 5 2013 12:24:34


It was a swampy voyage back across the Styx from a few days ago when I lost it and went one on one with Charon, pitchforks and paddles at ready. But your sweet and caring encomia of gentle condolence went a long way to assisting me in holding onto the thread. Huck's passing, our nearness, the longevity of his BEING HERE collapsed me, I fear. But all of you, notably Mark Tiedemann's exquisite letter, were more solace than I would have thought tenable. I cannot thank you enough.

I'l be better soon. I'm working at it. Susan thanks you, as well.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Frank Church
- Tuesday, March 5 2013 10:56:17

John Williams, you softie you, that was sweet. It's so good to have Parents that are wonderous and with us. Good going.

John, curious, you like music. You should go to the forums, we are having a major debate about music, especially my love affair with Prince and Mark Tiedemann's hate of said artist, as well as Elvis. How can you not love Elvis.

Don't worry, I am working on his impeachment from the country. You know I am half kidding Mark.


Jan, I heard Germany has great broadband. Is it true the EU us trying to stop the progress?

Be thankful you do not have the deathly slow internet we are forced to have here, while the big telecoms make us pay out the nose.

John E. Williams
- Monday, March 4 2013 15:38:8

Love Me Tender
Something a bit happy and poignant (at least for me): my 80+ year-old parents visited us this past weekend, and while they were here my wife and I talked them into recording their duet of "Love Me Tender", which won them accolades at the recent talent show held at the retirement center where they reside. I made a little video out of it for posterity. It's really very lovely.


EU - Monday, March 4 2013 12:14:35

On the positive side...
Mass for Mixed Voices: The Selected Short Fiction of Charles Beaumont (with H.E. intro) - out in two weeks

Nightshade and Damnations by Gerald Kersh (edited by Harlan) is coming back on April 9th to be exact
Tony Rabig on Kersh in the US - http://tonyrabig.blogspot.de/2013/02/gerald-kersh-reprints-coming-this-fall.html
Review by Stephen NULL Studach - http://www.chizine.com/nightshade_and_damnations_review.htm

H.E. has co-spoken another audio book: The Lying Year by Andrei Gelasimov

A photo of Harlan (with Dave Sim) back when he was played by Joe Penny

Ten Grand, the first title to come out from Joe’s Comics, will be published by Image Comics and officially debut May 1st.

Adam-Troy Castro
- Monday, March 4 2013 12:8:22

Whiner Of the Day

With every sentence, every damn sentence, I hate this pretentious little snot more. It's not just the byronic heights of self-pity, the open admission that he sees himself as fated for something better but betrayed by the combination of an evil system and his own shaky talent; it's not just his whininess that if he can't be Faulkner; it's not even the stone self-serving agenda behind his "apology." (He won't even own his opinions!) It's not even that he wants to BE the great writer of our time more than he wants to WRITE the great novel of our time. It's the density of the thing; the way he gets worse, more entitled, more pretentious, more self-important and more whiny, with every word. Some folks have already expressed disbelief that this is not brilliant satire, but it is apparently real.


St. Pete, Fl - Monday, March 4 2013 9:44:45

Looks like Nightshade and Damnations was re-released with the HE intro. http://tinyurl.com/d99d8xj

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Monday, March 4 2013 4:51:25

Seduction of the Innocent
My review of the new MAC novel appears here:



- Sunday, March 3 2013 23:6:16

Make sure to keep an extra coat and pair of gloves and other safety provisions in your car during winter. Stay in twos if possible, venturing away from an automobile emergency, and be on the outlook for signs of hidden rivers and creeks beneath snowpack. You do not want to fall into one unexpectedly. Try not to panic or rush.

the Shadow
- Sunday, March 3 2013 15:55:18

A Good Read from Hard Case Crime
Should anyone want to take their mind(s) off the subject at hand, for a time, SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT by Max Allan Collins is a Good Read from Hard Case Crime publishers, the folks who'll be bringing you the republication of WEB OF THE CITY by Harlan Ellison, in April. "Seduction" is based on the nefarious case brought against the comic book industry -- claiming comics turned kids into criminals and delinquents, and such -- and it also features a snappy color cover by Glen Orbik and some interior, before each chapter, B&W art by Terry Beatty.

Kenny Noor
- Sunday, March 3 2013 8:40:3

Harlan, my condolences on your loss.

David Silver, my deepest sympathies. I earnestly hope your relatives are helpful and supportive of you as sometimes they act and say the dumbest things. An email this morning reminded me of how relatives act after a death. I was send photographs of my dad's condo, now empty, freshly painted and with new carpets. When my Dad died, my sister-in-law could not have moved any faster in her rush to have everything my father owned tossed in the dump. I just don't understand some of things people do and say. It can be so hurtful. I truly hope things go better for you.

- Sunday, March 3 2013 1:6:37

David...Jeez! Welcome home! I’m glad you got through that mess!


This may not be the best timing, given the events of the past week. But I have another old pencil drawing here from my archives that I feel, by chance, in evoking iconic imagery, conjures the gun tragedies we’ve watched sweep the country. Two years ago, I did a painting using this drawing as its basis.

At your convenience, please check it out.


Chuck Messer
- Saturday, March 2 2013 18:54:41

I'm glad David is okay. It sounds like the situation was a bit hairy.


shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Saturday, March 2 2013 13:59:45

MARK: You beat me to the punch. Definitely a huge sigh of relief!


Frank Church
- Saturday, March 2 2013 11:30:2

Good Lord, that's really good news on the David Loftus front. We don't get along much but I do want the guy to be safe.

Hoping he has a good story to tell. I was once lost in the woods as a lad. Not fun.

Mark Goldberg <markabaddon@gmail.com>
Eagan, Minnesota - Saturday, March 2 2013 11:23:54

Just got this update from David's wife:

Carole here: Just got a call. They have been found. I do not know many details. They evidently got stuck in the snow and hiked through the woods all night to Breitenbush.

Will update as soon as i know anything else.

Don't know about you guys, but I just let out a HUGE sigh of relief


Jes Bickham
- Saturday, March 2 2013 9:30:58

Harlan and David: I am so sorry for your losses.
Doug: thank you for your beautiful post. My dad will have been gone two years in April, and I think I'm still at the stage you're reporting from. It gets easier, I guess -or at least, less hard - but sometimes the gut-punch still comes. Dad was from German stock, and lost his father on the eastern front when he was just a few months old, but he was lucky enough to get a wonderful step-father - and I was lucky enough to get 38 years with my old man. Trying to make sense of it all, that's something good to cling to.
I'm 40 on Tuesday. Man! Feeling pretty good about it though, I think, and I've just met a wonderful new gal, so life gives even as it unforgiveably takes away. That, too, is something to cling to.
All the best

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Saturday, March 2 2013 9:23:15

News of David Loftus
Posted by David Loftus's wife, Carole, a little over an hour ago on Facebook:

"This is David's wife Carole. He and his brother Toby set out for Sun River at 5 PM on Friday and never arrived. If anyone hears from either of them or learns of a crash between Portland and the Bend area, please call me immediately: 503-224-0098.

I talked to Toby's wife. The car is a silver SAAB station wagon, OR license 063-CSE. She said the route Toby has taken in the past is OR 22 east of Salem to OR 20 to Bend."

I know we have a couple of Oregon regulars. If you hear anything, please pass the word along.

And keep David in your thoughts.


Paul Hull <vaughnrichards@yahoo.com>
ATX, - Saturday, March 2 2013 9:13:54

My deepest commiseration for all the losses suffered by those we care about here. Every day is work with our shoulders to the grindstone, and some days it feels like everyone we're working with is on coffee break.

This is one hell of a caring community here in the Pavvy. Stay strong. Live to make fun of the reaper.

Mark Barsotti <markbeach60@yahoo.com>
San Diego, - Friday, March 1 2013 19:30:59

A bit of good news...
First, Harlan and David Silver,

Condolences on your losses. Other diners have offered lengthy and more eloquent thoughts on death and grief than anything further I might offer. So a bit of good news: Peter David continues to recover from his stroke.


My Best,


Alamogordo, NM - Friday, March 1 2013 17:4:40

Harlan -- Keeping you and everyone who loved your friend in my thoughts. They leave too soon, always...younger than us or older.

- Friday, March 1 2013 12:11:42

Here it is: Nobody Gets Out Of Childhood Alive, an excerpt from Harlan’s forward, to which I made a brief reference some weeks ago, for ‘Blast Off! Rockets, Robots, Ray Guns and Rarities from the Golden Age of Space Toys.’

The whole damn thing is beautifully written, as it stirs the imagery of our daydreams and nightmares; but this is the main section I walked away with, mulling over (literally, about a mile) a perspective I hadn’t considered before: consequent behavior and justifications of those of us who “kill” the child within them - those of us who are dead long before their physical passing.

“Nobody gets out of childhood alive”.

“We carry childhood within us till the last moment of our lives. If we are bad people, we forget being a child too soon, and we wind up bitter or criminal or mundane or spending all our time making a buck and keeping the front lawn free of rye-grass…

And where there was once the hero who rode into the sunset…now there is…only the lonely dark wind and the sound of the child within us stumbling toward the empty abyss.

This was the last sound Timothy McVeigh heard as his body drank the poison. Delusional to the end, he mistook himself for a soldier; the sort of soldier who killed children at My Lai and Babi Yar and Warsaw and Wounded Knee and Carthage . MEN WHO ALREADY SLAUGHTERED THE CHILD WITHIN THEM”

Yeah. I’m inclined to apply this axiom in a broader way because it seems to me any capability we have at all to feel compassion and empathy and respect for life is keeping the child we once were alive within us. And killing that child is all too easy! Too many die in the course of childhood itself, when, encouraged by their setting, learn quickly the pleasure of torturing and killing. I doubt I could stop the head count on those who walk into adulthood with ice in their veins. A mass population DOA!

We’re capable of “killing” the child within us at any point in life, as bitterness over the world might sink in too deeply and blacken our hearts. Hence, the premise is a great reminder about the future path we choose; a reminder about what helps us keep LIVING.

I think that whole forward was one of your best, Harlan! I was really happy to stumble across it. It gave me something to embrace. Thank you.

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Friday, March 1 2013 6:19:38

Harlan and David

Hearts of Oak

Scholars have told me
that the heart is a muscle
experience tells me
the heart is a vessel
both craft and container
an embracer of soul

So gather your guests
both family and friends
and hold them deep
and safe
your loving

Tim Raven

Paul A
Front Royal, Virginia - Friday, March 1 2013 4:40:13


I know I don't pop up verbally in here much, but I'm terribly sorry about Huck, man. My thoughts are with you and Susan.


shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Friday, March 1 2013 3:4:50

Chris In St. Louis:

Your comments about your dad being an atheist reminded me of a conversation with a friend shortly after my mother's death going on six years ago. My friend, very much a caring Catholic (yes, they do exist, folks), tried to console me.

Friend: Well, now your mom is in a better place.

Me: Boy would she be pissed. She was an atheist.

Friend: *blink* Maybe she changed her mind.

Me: You never met my mom.


Dave Martens
- Thursday, February 28 2013 21:54:12

common ground

Harlan, you're the man who showed us ideas for addressing the darkness and inner space -- placing sleepless, gut-wrenching experiences onto the backs of our hands. As we've all aged, family and friends are indeed gone ... and we are here with you. Our common ground remains unbroken.

Chuck Messer
- Thursday, February 28 2013 21:9:8

Seeing what has happened, all I can say to Harlan and David is that you're not alone in feeling what you feel. A number of us know your pain. I certainly do. I want you to know you're not alone out there. It's all I can do.


TEXAS - Thursday, February 28 2013 20:38:38

Dear Harlan,

I will tell you what I believe. I know a lady here in Mason, her name is Gerda Kothmann. Her father was the last kid to be kidnapped by indians in Mason County.... that's how old she is. She is lovely and sincere. A number of years ago we had an F-4 tornado here near Loyal Valley in Mason County-- it sucked the pavement off the road and imbedded mesquite leaves in oak trees-- which is a trick I can't even get my mind around. Anyway... that tornado got Gerda's husband. She told me that after he died she was bereft. She had been with him for so long-- and they had been inseparable. She said she was so inconsolable that one night her husband came back. She said she wasn't asleep-- she knew that she was wide awake-- hadn't been asleep yet. She said he stood by the end of her bed and smiled at her and she felt instantly at peace. She told me that she felt like God let him come back so she would know that he was all right and that she would see him again. She said for years she didn't tell anybody what had happened because she was afraid they would think she was slipping. She said after a few years passed she confided in her best friend. She said Tootsie said the same thing had happen when her husband had died. Tootsie said Everett came back and stood at the foot of her bed. Gerda told me that neither of them worried after that about where their husbands were-- they knew they were fine and they would see them again when they got to the other side.
And that' s what I believe-- I think we get our people back and I hope we even get our pets back. So I believe you will see your father-- and your mother and your sister and her husband and all the deep, funny, wonderful people you love...and if I'm right and if God listens to Lutherans you'll see Abhu again as well.

In my heart I believe this is true.


Beautiful Northridge, CA - Thursday, February 28 2013 20:5:43

Chris in St. Louis

Thank you.

St. Louis, - Thursday, February 28 2013 19:59:48

When my father died, I knew that he was gone and all he was had gone. Everyone who told me he was in a better place, didn't know him very well. He would have laughed at that, atheist that he was. After he was gone I could still hear his voice in my head, yelling for my Mom. Her name is Joanne and he'd contract it. "J'anne" he'd yell when he wanted something. He taught my six year old son to play chess and how to take pictures. "Taking pictures stops time and shows you new ways to look at the world." He told my son.
One day, three years after my dad died, I was picking up my son from a chess tournament. At the end of the tournament he shook his opponents hand and started looking around the room for me. When he turned I saw my Dad's blue eyes find me and it stopped me cold. I knew that all of my Dad wasn't gone. Part of him was right there in front of me. His voice was still here, in the pictures he took as well as in my head. He had left parts of himself behind. I found some comfort in that. Not a lot, but it's all we got.
He died at 60. What a fucking ripoff. My son is twenty-one and still plays chess. My daughter plays the cello. He would have loved that. I know he would have.

I'm so sorry you have lost such a dear friend. You said many times what a lovely man he was and to lose that friend is a tragedy. You and Susan and the others who loved him, take care of each other. When I was a kid and asked my dad why he didn't believe in God, he said that he didn't need God to know why he was here or to give his life purpose. When I asked why we were here then, he said, "to help each other, of course."

Bob Ingersoll <bingersoll@mindspring.com>
South Euclid, Ohio - Thursday, February 28 2013 18:49:9


My deepest condolences.

Mark Goldberg <markabaddon@gmail.com>
Eagan, - Thursday, February 28 2013 18:8:55

Harlan & David,

My deepest condolences to you both. Please know that you are not alone

You are in my thoughts and prayers,


Jordan Owen
Atlanta, GA - Thursday, February 28 2013 14:11:3

Like the rest, I extend my deepest sympathies. The great irony is that when other people I care about lose loved ones, I recommend they read Angry Candy. But for the author himself, I am without suggestion. Best wishes to you and Susan,

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Thursday, February 28 2013 13:25:10

My condolences to Harlan and all the others who have lost loved ones recently.

One of the drawbacks of living as large a life as Harlan has and, on a much smaller scale, I have, is that we meet and love so many extraordinary people. It hurts so terribly when they pass.

The only thing that eases that pain even slightly is recognizing how blessed, how lucky, how honored we were to have known them.

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.om>
Minneapolis, MN - Thursday, February 28 2013 12:32:18


Here we are, Harlan Ellison. We abound. Grieving with you, my friend.


Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Thursday, February 28 2013 11:59:58

Haskell Barkin

Harlan, my sincere condolences on the loss of your friend and sometime collaborator, Huck Barkin. Over on Facebook, Alan Brennert just posted this:

"So sorry to hear this. Huck Barkin was a nice man and a good writer, we at the Zone enjoyed working with him."

For the uninitiated, Haskell Barkin wrote four episodes of the 1980s TWILIGHT ZONE (working alongside Harlan and Alan), which makes him one of the key writers from that revival of the show.

- Phil

Steve Perry <Perry1966@comcast.net>
Beaverton, OR - Thursday, February 28 2013 11:3:20

The old saw is that life would not be so sweet and precious did we not know it was going to end. I don't believe that. There are way too many things to experience to get bored. I, for one, would love to live to see the end of the story. To watch it unfold. If there was intentional intelligence behind our creation, it is unspeakably cruel and terribly inept. Mark Twain had it.

If I were in charge, it wouldn't be this way.

Condolences echo hollowly, but I offer mine.


Andrew Laubacher
Buffalo, NY - Thursday, February 28 2013 10:15:0

Harlan. David Silver. Our thoughts are with you.

Brian Phillips
McDonough, GA - Thursday, February 28 2013 9:0:42

Sympathies and prayers to Harlan and David.
I have no witty sayings, eloquent speech or great quote to share with you, just my heartfelt sorrow and empathy for both of your losses.

- Brian Phillips

James Levy <susjpl@hofstra.edu>
Syosset, New York - Thursday, February 28 2013 8:19:25

Where to go is where you are


No need for an exit. You are exactly where you should be, in the marvelous home you have constructed with the wonderful wife you share your life with. You look life square in the mug as well as anyone. You know what the exit is, and fuck-all to that. Remember, like you said in the film, you're a mean little dog and you won't go down. Revel in that.

Your hearty platoon of close friends is being whittled away. Makes you mad, and heartsick, but you haven't got any quit in you, or you wouldn't have gotten this far. You've put too much of yourself in your work for those of us who have read it not to know you. You've lived your life like the sarge every private secretly hopes to follow. There are still a load of people around who would gladly take point for you. Don't fail to see them in your grief.

I know all this because I'm watching my 90 year old dad die inch by inch, and if I can persevere, it's due to him, and it's due to your words and example.

With deepest admiration,


John E. Williams
- Thursday, February 28 2013 6:17:32


I wish I could convey properly how very sorry I am that you lost your friend. I wish I had the wisdom and the smarts to say something that would help. I daresay the collective voices of your friends here and elsewhere must make some small difference.

I have this much: you and I have spoken, and done some business, and have even met once, but it is increasingly unlikely that we will ever shoot a game of pool, or trade comic books, or take a run out to Pink's. But I know where you are, and where to find you, which is where you have always been since around the time I turned 18, and that is in The Work. I realize how dopey and even obvious that probably reads, but you're as alive to me through The Work as you are when you're the voice on the phone, and perhaps even more so. I have sought your counsel again and again over the years -- Harlan railing against the Common Man, Harlan talking about the 3 Most Important Things, Harlan beating me on the head for preferring the easy over the hard, or the mediocre over the excellent. SOMEHOW,I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN KANSAS, TOTO is one of my great life lessons -- it has helped equip me to deal with idiotic clients and taught me that it's okay to protect my work. I cannot fathom my career without having read it. I cannot fathom the better parts of my character without your influence and friendship (figuratively, on the page). I don't know that we would even like each other much in 'real' life. (You've yelled at me on the Pavilion 4 times, but who's counting?) But all that stuff about people living on in your heart is true, and it's real, because I do not know who I would be without your work. (And not just you, for heaven's sake; I put you up there with Lennon and Twain and Joe Strummer, good company if you ask me.)

I have this 20 year old nephew, Sean. You'd like him. He's incredibly smart, unbelievably kind and good, bumbles when it comes to computers, reads more books than I ever have. He wants to be a writer. He has DJ'd a classical music show on college radio. I had him watch DREAMS WITH SHARP TEETH; he declared you "(his) kind of people". He recently started a blog called "booksonbooksonbooks: Writing About Reading, Reading About Writing", and his latest entry features a video of an interview with Isaac Asimov, and reads in full, as follows:

"I read the original Foundation Trilogy as a teenager and while I’m not really an enthusiastic science fiction reader, this big gray book snared my interest because it is a work about people first and science second. Asimov was able to make the connection between people and technology without dehumanizing either, an impressive feat. He was extremely prolific and his countless writings are a gift to eager readers everywhere. I hope you like this interview, I believe it gives a look at a good-natured, thoughtful individual, the kind of person this world can never have enough of."

So there's one answer. That's where Isaac is -- he's busily teaching, reaching into this young man's mind, into his heart, speaking clearly and intelligently through the incredible gobs of nonsense and noise that passes for modern discourse. It's not enough to ease your pain, because Isaac was your friend in fact, and not just a teacher or a great writer. But he's still here, doing his job. As are you.

I'm not going to scroll up and read everything I just typed, because much of it probably sounds deeply stupid, but it is all deeply felt, and I hope it gives you at least a crumb of comfort. Bless you, and bless Susan.

Jim Argendeli
- Thursday, February 28 2013 5:33:29

Hi Harlan,

Cindy and I are sorry to hear about your friend. Make sure to spend time with Susan as well as friends and loved ones. Take care.

Steve Barber
- Thursday, February 28 2013 5:25:59

Aw, fudge.

Harlan, David. I am so very sorry to get your news. Words are inadequate, but must be offered.

So very sorry, and, like Sandra, here if you need to talk.


Michael Rapoport
- Thursday, February 28 2013 4:50:1

Doug: "...the fact it never stops hurting means they mattered." Precisely.

Harlan, my deepest condolences to you on the loss of your friend. And David, deepest condolences to you on your mother's passing.

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Thursday, February 28 2013 0:41:7

DAVID SILVER: I am sorry for your loss as well, but know that your mother's pain has ended. I am here if you want to talk, vent, or scream. My email is above, and, if you like, I can give you my phone number. I've been there.


shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Thursday, February 28 2013 0:38:58

HARLAN: There are so many things that can be said, but in the end all the words are so many grains of sand on a beach, easily blown away and forgotten.

Friends and family slip away, and all you can do is wonder where everyone has gone and why they've left you alone. Still, FinderDoug has the right of it. Huck mattered.


Steambird Springs, Lost State Of Franklin - Thursday, February 28 2013 0:35:45

Jan Howard Finder, AKA “The Wombat” (1939-2013)

He enjoyed your stories, and I believe you met him once or twice.

One of a kind, and a friend of long standing. RIP.

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Thursday, February 28 2013 0:34:23


Finder Doug
- Wednesday, February 27 2013 21:33:51


Earlier this evening, I was lamenting the loss of my father. It's no longer the flowing, open trench of rage and sorrow and darkness it was in September. It's more a series of waves and tides. Some days, I grin when I remember something of him I'd misplaced, some goofiness, some absurdity, some moment where I learned from him (or was schooled by him.) And some days, such as when I was working on patching bits and pieces in the guest bedroom a couple weeks back - bullshit he could have done in his sleep, with a hook on his left hand, but for which I'd kill for thirty seconds of advice I can no longer have, one more question he can never answer - I'm overcome. After several setbacks, I finally threw down a broom in disgust and wept like a child, and Peggy held me and comforted me, because she's been there herself. I chose wisely.

Anyway. Today, Standing on the porch and thinking wistfully of Dad as I looked at the lattice I installed around the base of the house to keep the fucking possums from nesting in the walls - not all of the skills he tried to impart to me died on the hardpan - I thought to myself how lucky I was. I had my old man's counsel for 44 years. I thought of my father again, and finally did math in my head that I'd never done before: he was only 32 when his father succumbed to colon cancer in '77, and event that allegedly made him a bastard for several months. And then I thought of you, my friend, who was far too young at 15 to have to let go of your own dad.

I have no answers, Harlan. I didn't understand when I got the call in '92 that my friend Joe was found hanged from a tree in Colonie, NY; nor in 2006, when Bernie and Tina's daughter was killed, just shy of her 19th birthday; nor last September, when I had to find my sister on the morning of her wedding to tell her we had to get to the hospital ASAP because in 12 hours' time, my father had gone from smiling and joking to a coma he never came back from. I won't understand any better after the next 10, 20, 50 - if I last that long. There's no telling. There's no knowing.

But the fact it never stops hurting means they mattered. And that love and joy and laughter and friendship all matter, even when the flesh is gone and only memories remain. For if none of this mattered, if we were solely cold and ambivalent and detached and without emotion, we would be Jim Jones; we would be Pol Pot; we would be Vasili Blokhin and Heinrich Himmler - soulless, inhuman, corrupted, capable of writing off death as easily as one writes off a business expense.

I'm sorry for your loss. my friend. And I know there's little I can do as a balm, except to remind you of that which you have so often reminded me, and the many friends I have made through association with you and interest in your work, and the thousands upon thousands of readers that I do not, have not and will not ever know:

You are not alone.

Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Wednesday, February 27 2013 21:20:58

Very sorry for this new loss and for all of the recent losses of your friends.

But please know that we all are very, very happy that you're still with us and we all care about you very much.

Paul Michael Barkan
Rocky Point, NY - Wednesday, February 27 2013 20:58:1


Harlan, I'm so sorry to hear about your friend, Huck Barkin, and David, about your mom. Wishing you both some peace.

Mary <hoffmann.mary7@gmail.com>
- Wednesday, February 27 2013 20:26:11

I wish I had answers for you, Harlan, but I don't think anyone does...and any words of sympathy I'm afraid wouldn't help, but for what it's worth...I just don't get it either. The good ones pass on, and what's left are those of us who long to see them just one more time. I think we've all lost someone who's been a friend, father, mother, sister, etc, and the hole's never quite filled after they've gone. We all give speeches at their memorials, cry until there's no tears left, then we move on. But if there are fitting memorials or tributes we can offer, then I'd like to be as good a person as the friend I've lost. I'd like to leave my own footprint on this earth and make it a good one. Speeches are great, but what we do here and now is what's important.

If there is any memorial I can leave here tonight to Haskell Barkin, it's to leave as good an impression as he did. He won't be forgotten, Harlan, just as long as the printed word exists. I send you my deepest sympathies, and know we're here.

Peace folks, and good night...

- Wednesday, February 27 2013 19:57:5

There is no reason for this, but we remain. Unlike the band on the Titanic, we cannot merely play on.

- Wednesday, February 27 2013 19:41:1


I Just got the call. Ohfuckit, where the hell have all my friends gone, why are they going away, Huck should be alive he was younger than I. I knew him and we were pals and I loved him for 51 years. Where is the exit? Where is the answer? Where have they all gone, Isaac and Avram and Billy Dignin and my mother and father, my sister and Jerold, Phil and Bette and all the thousands of others left in the dust trail, and there is no answer, no peace, no goddam place to go, and the world trudges on hatefully, shooting and starving and hurting. Oh just shit it


- Wednesday, February 27 2013 18:19:24


Though on the precipice of senescence, to the best of my recollection--which is well within bounds--I never wrote such a story. Nothing even similar to it. Sorry, I can't be of any help; never committed the act.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

- Wednesday, February 27 2013 18:19:22


Though on the precipice of senescence, to the best of my recollection--which is well within bounds--I never wrote such a story. Nothing even similar to it. Sorry, I can't be of any help; never committed the act.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

- Wednesday, February 27 2013 17:4:29

David Silver ~

We don't know each other, but my genuine condolences. I've a close friend who is striving to help her invalid mother survive. It's definitely a taxing time for anyone!

I finally got around to reading Art Spiegelman's MAUS - A
Survivor's Tale ~ My Father Bleeds History.

Couldn't put it down for more than a minute. Then re-read it. Then revisited different sections to "relive" those moments.
Spiegelman cleverly and slyly slips in a frament of information toward the middle of the book which emerges in the book's conclusion and delivers incredible impact. I sat there feeling it all through the narrator's murine eyes, mulling over the ways I could relate to it. I was transfixed.

One beautiful book! This was one of the best buys I ever made.

Diane Bartels <dianebartels99 @comcast.net>
Merrionette Park, IL - Wednesday, February 27 2013 15:31:38

Harlan and Susan, my condolences.

David, I am very sorry for the loss of your mom.


Tom Anderson <toand8715@yahoo.com>
San Francisco, CA - Wednesday, February 27 2013 14:57:29

Need help finding a Harlan Ellison story (storytitle and/or book)

I have been desperately searching for a Harlan Ellison story to re-read. I thought it was in Deathbird Stories, but upon re-reading that book I couldn't find the story I was looking for.

Here is the synopsis. A man, traveling on a train, gambles with a world class skier. The skier antes up his afterlife and seconds later the train crashes. The man awakes on the top of a mountain range to discover he is in his personal hell: an expert skier's dream come true on the most difficult skiing terrain possible. Eventually, who should appear to save the man, but The Devil himself.

Can anyone help me here with the story title or the volume(s) in which it was printed? Much obliged!

- Wednesday, February 27 2013 12:11:19


There is more grief in me today than yesterday; my thoughts and love to your mother go with you.


David Silver <silver@well.com>
San Francisco, CA - Wednesday, February 27 2013 11:39:55

David Silver checks in with a brief note of sadness...

Hello everybody,

It's a longer story than this, 2012 was a rough year for my mom, and I spent most of my extra time watching over her (hence my scarce time spent here), but things got really bad last November 9th when she took a fall (cracked her head and broke an arm), and I was called upon to work with her day in and day out in the hopes she might rehabilitate...

After a three month ordeal that saw initial promising "ups" and then an avalanche of crushing "downs", my mom passed away peacefully the morning of Sunday, February 17th, in our family home with me, my wife, and my sister in attendance. She was 88 years old, and a fighter to the end. As she requested, there's going to be a simple memorial service tomorrow evening (one of the last things she told me was "...please, no weepy stuff...make them laugh and remember who I really was..."), no formal funeral, and the next day our little family will escort her privately to the cemetery for entombment next to my father. If anybody here is so inclined, PLEASE don't send flowers or cards or anything else. Instead, please consider a donation in my mom's name (Marjorie F. Silver) to Pathways Hospice of South San Francisco in California. Although I took care of my mom through the entire three months, hospice was there to help me in the final week, they made her passage as pain-free and peaceful as possible, and every single person I encountered in their service convinced me that there are indeed angels walking among us. That's all for now, I just wanted to quickly pass along this update because so many of you contacted me with concern in the past months, and I'm now going to check out of here again, probably through March, while we deal with estate issues, etc. To all who offered condolences and help during this time, my sincere thanks. I'll be back in a few weeks after things settle down...

Harlan, miss you, and I hope all is well with you and Susan...

Best wishes,

David Silver

Frank Church
- Wednesday, February 27 2013 10:17:8

Lots of death. Sorry for your loss Harlan.

The great Van Cliburn has passed on as well.

Steve ( and Cris)
- Tuesday, February 26 2013 19:52:53

I'm out of town at the moment, but very sad to read about Haskell Barkin. We hope him well. And you guys, too.

largo, fl. - Tuesday, February 26 2013 17:55:54

Meant to say "right on !" to Dave Clarke,but sadness prevails

So sad to hear Mr.Barkin is in serious fight for his life;read a lot of his words and felt the humor his words carry for over twenty years myself now;so very sad.

- Tuesday, February 26 2013 17:14:54

Susan ~ "Do you wish the comic books personalized?"

Is there a way I could possibly live without it?

Thanks as always. Watch the mail.

Iain Aitken <reddragon70@aol.com>
Dumfries, Scotland - Tuesday, February 26 2013 16:41:28

Huck Baskin

I dont have words, not enough to say how sorry I am to hear that.

Anything I say would be.... well bullshit.

I hope you're ok. Its all I can say.


Chuck Messer
- Tuesday, February 26 2013 15:46:4

My condolences to you, Harlan. Mr. Barkin had quite a writing resume. I assume you worked together on the Twilight Zone.


John E. Williams
- Tuesday, February 26 2013 14:9:28

Harlan, very sorry to hear.

Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Tuesday, February 26 2013 13:31:17

Very sorry to hear about your friend. Please let us know if there's anything we can do.

- Tuesday, February 26 2013 12:57:53


Received a phone call this morning from Carol. Haskell Barkin is in hospital; he is dying.


- Tuesday, February 26 2013 11:0:49

Rob: Thank you. Please make check payable to: THE KILIMANJARO CORPORATION, P.O. Box 55548, Sherman Oaks, CA 91413.

Do you wish the comic books personalized?

With all kindness--Susan

- Tuesday, February 26 2013 10:45:30

Susan ~

Yes, thank you. I'm interested in that deal. I'll mail in for it.

Seattle, - Tuesday, February 26 2013 8:47:33

10 Minute documentary on Patton Oswalt

Dave Clarke
- Tuesday, February 26 2013 8:41:51

You are silent and cold beneath the stone
and I am crying, as usual,
the tears spilling onto the front of my jacket

I look to the sky and the trees and the clouds
and I whisper between my sobs,
you just can't be,
you just can't be

But you are. And your stone
reminds me that you are truly
and irrevocably

I think what a fool I am to believe
that somehow I can still have you,
that I can still hold you,
and kiss you,
that I will once again feel your heart beat
against mine

I dry my eyes,
say goodbye to you and
make my way through the long grass,
and the mist,
and when I reach my car
I am crying

The wind is constant now, and I look to the trees
as leaves are plucked from the limbs
by the cold hands of the approaching winter

I watch a single leaf,
spinning down,

I catch the leaf,
and stand there,
staring at it,
twisting it by its stem.
I am

Then the voice,
soft, familar,
carried by the wind,
like the leaf

Don't cry,
I'm still yours

St. Pete, FL - Tuesday, February 26 2013 8:9:25

Sorry, I didn't know about that search limitation. Unless someone else chimes in, try emailing Rick W.

Iain Aitken <reddragon70@aol.com>
Dumfries, Scotland - Tuesday, February 26 2013 5:31:3

Cloud Atlas, again...
Sorry for the second post, I know the rules, and I shall banish myself and punish my sinful fingers for having the audacity to put a second post on the pavilion in one day.

I have the novel of Cloud Atlas, its sitting on my book shelf patiently waiting for me to finish Railsea by China Mieville and Zombies At Tiffany's by Sam Stone. I am really looking forward to reading it now, to compare the treatment the movie gives the text.

One thing about the movie that I loved is that all the actors have multiple roles. Some of them almost unrecognisable, for example Hugo Weaving playing a female nurse... Or Hugh Grant as a cannibalistic future barbarian. Also there seemed to be a few small items that appeared throughout the stories. An opal waistcoat (vest to you damn yankees) button which becomes a necklace worn by the far future character played by Tom Hanks.

For me, this movie has been the highlight of the year. And I have still to see Robot And Frank, which I think may eclipse Cloud Atlas, if not for visuals, then for the beautiful story.

Time will tell.

All the best, and off to punish myself....


Mark W. Tiedemann <mwtiedemann@earthlink.net>
St. Louis, MO - Tuesday, February 26 2013 5:21:16

I haven't seen the movie, Cloud Atlas, but I recently read the novel. I did a little piece about it here:


I am now very curious to see what the film does with it.

oz - Tuesday, February 26 2013 3:42:0

Note To Iain about "Cloud Atlas"
Now that you've seen the film, Iain, you should pick up a copy of the book, CLOUD ATLAS. I recently finished it and was so impressed that I went out bought copies of the rest of David Mitchell's small but (so far) impressive oeuvre. Finishing GHOSTWRITTEN as I type this, and will be on to NUMBER 9 DREAM after that -- followed by BLACK SWAN GREEN and THE THOUSAND AUTUMNS OF JACOB DE ZOET. And it's more than likely I will _reread_ CLOUD ATLAS before moving onto his third novel (I liked the book, and thus far, his writing, that much). The overall theme of the book is basically a mingling of quantum mechanics/Schrodinger's Cat (we effect the world around us even by merely watching), a bit of zen buddhist/spiritual stuff (every one is connected, and energy is recycled, etc,) as well as good ol' fashioned Kurt Vonnuegutism (his main message? Be kind!). Nothing deep or complex, but definitely worth championing, especially when in the context of a tale well-told.

As for the film: gonna be seeing it myself, this coming weekend, for the first time, 'cause it's landing in Oz even later than it did in Scotland. The trailers alone made me interested in seeing the film; but, now, having read the novel, I want to see it for comparison (knowing, of course, that the film will _have_ to be different, in a lot of ways, from the novel). From what I've read, and the bits I've seen in trailers, it looks like the directors and screenwriter might have over-explained the theme of the book, focusing on the "reincarnation" aspect. And since the worst thing most of the average viewers in America had to say about the flick was that it was "too hard to understand" because of all the stories, or that it went from comedy to tragedy or from "old-timey" to "sci-fi", then one can understand why the Wachowski's and their screenwriter might have tried to hard to explain things. And why it didn't do well in America -- but didn't, apparently, "bomb" in most other countries (in fact, I read, somewhere, that the film -- which was _independently_ produced, a heck of a feat considering it was such a big productino! -- is making a LOT more money overseas than in the U.S. It's made about 25 million in U.S. dollars in China, but since everyone ignores that country, that part of the "take" isn't reported in the U.S. when they mention the earnings for the film -- and it is apparently STILL doing well in China, with more revenue to come from the UK, Japan and Australia, too).

Anyway, you won't hear THIS particular, part-time, Webderlander deriding you over enjoying that flick. In fact, now you've stoked my desire even more to go see it this coming weekend.

Cheers from Oz!

Iain Aitken <reddragon70@aol.com>
Dumfries, Scotland - Tuesday, February 26 2013 2:49:48

Cloud Atlas
Yesterday I finally got to see Cloud Atlas in the cinema. Several months after the US release, which I find a tad frustrating, but its here at long last.

What can I say? I thought it was utterly enchanting. Visually stunning, complex, subtle and just divine.

Many here may argue with that, Unca Harlan no doubt being amongst them, noticing plot holes I missed or suchlike. But I loved it. I hardly even noticed that it was 3 hours long, something that The Hobbit didnt manage, in fact I was squirming with numb bum syndrome at the end of that. Cloud Atlas? Not a squirm in sight.

One thing I did notice however was the locations used to double for I can only assume was San Francisco... Those scenes were filmed in Glasgow in Scotland. My companion at the viewing confirmed that she heard the film was partly shot here, as well as in Edinburgh. I saw buildings that I know from my youth in the Anderston area, magically becoming America, with the addition of Detroit built cars. Utterly surreal.

Anyway, you may now all flame me for my lack of taste in films. :)

All the best


Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Tuesday, February 26 2013 0:33:0

Link to Harlan's posts


Thanks for the link to the forum search. This NEARLY does what I want, but it only seems to give me results up to 2010, which leaves about two years' worth of Pavilion unsearchable. Am I missing something?

I gather from a post on the forum that Rick withdrew the "view all Harlan's posts by clicking here" facility when it nearly collapsed the visible universe into a singularity or somesuch.

Janet Gamache
Victoria, BC - Monday, February 25 2013 19:1:20

Can you tell me,
you who know
from false
shadow from
they refer
to the distant stars
they are all
of me?


“...I ride that fine line between
rhyme and reason”
– Mr Ray Materick, Midnight Matinee

Tom Morgan
Silverado, CA - Monday, February 25 2013 18:55:19

Just in case

If Rob does not nab that set I will go for it.

Think of all those important things you need to save for...

Hey, Jeopardy is about to start. A $1600 level must be in the Double section.

A good day to all here.

Brad Haupt <hauptbp@yahoo.com>
Milwaukee, WI - Monday, February 25 2013 18:29:43

Ooh! Ooh! I know!
What is "masticate"?

I'll take those $1600 in unmarked tens and twenties please Alex!

John E. Williams
Falls Church, VA - Monday, February 25 2013 16:55:50

This... is... JEOPARDY!
Hey Harlan!

The wife and me just watched "Jeopardy" because one of the categories was "Hugo Award Winners', and I thought "hmmmm"...

Sure enough, the $1600 clue was "I Have No Mouth and I Must ____".

7:30 EST WJLA-TV, Washington, DC. Look for it on KABC tonight.

- Monday, February 25 2013 14:26:34

I have one set of Avengers/Hulk (mint). Cost: $40.00 (set) plus $5.00 shipping.

Interested? If not, just let me know.

With all kindness--Susan

Kenny Noor
- Monday, February 25 2013 14:12:24

Yes, Danica, actors are DUMB!

“Drivers … and Danica!!! … start your engines.”
With that unique command, actor James Franco ordered the 43 cars to fire up for the Daytona 500.

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Monday, February 25 2013 11:32:19

I was recently asking about that DEMON WITH A GLASS HAND script, and your David Twohy blog link answered it perfectly. I hope it gets made one day. Thank you sir.


Diane Bartels <dianebartels99 @comcast.net>
Merrionette Park, IL - Monday, February 25 2013 9:56:36

Frank is leaving U.S.
Bye Frank. Have an awesome time. I'm very fond of feta cheese and black olives just in case you are bringing presents back. Byebye

Frank Church
- Monday, February 25 2013 9:10:39

I'd rather live in Greece or Spain way before North Dakota where they have slaves working on the pipeline. People who live in North Dakota live there because of karmic punishment.


The reason I watch the Oscars is to avoid William Shatner. Now I am really angry.

At least have Spock on as well. Beam me up.


Life Of Pi is really beautifully made, but we should thank the visual artists, not Ang Lee, who is a great director.

Spielberg got anal raped.

Loved most of the wins.

The Master. Overlooked film of the year.

St. Pete, FL - Monday, February 25 2013 6:8:6

Try this,


Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Monday, February 25 2013 2:25:33

List of Harlan's posts

Could someone help me, please? At some point in the recent* past, Rick Wyatt posted a link that called up a collection of all of Harlan's posts to the Pavilion. Where is that link?

And while I'm about it, does anyone know any good ( = easy/reliable) way of finding all posts from any given user of the Pavilion? I've tried using the all-seeing, all-knowing Google, but it seems it doesn't sell all or know all.

Thanking you.

- Phil

*It seems like a few months ago, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was further back than that.

Michael Zuzel <cartographer@islets.net>
Boy-See, Eye-Dee - Sunday, February 24 2013 22:45:10

Harlan, got your message. Your warm voice and good wishes thrill this heart more than you could know.

Take care,


- Sunday, February 24 2013 22:8:59

Occasionally, I'm amazed by the divergent critical reaction to a film. Life Of Pi (haven't seen it) was extolled by Roger Ebert and utterly panned by the LA Weekly (Voice Media Group) whose writers are quite good. Then Ang Lee wins best director.

This happens all the time, of course, and always has. Still, there are times when I don't know who to believe. I've seen films Roger praised that I didnt' like at all; conversely, I've seen films the Weekly vastly underrated.

None of this, however, quashes my occasional surprise.

Glad for ARGO...and I haven't even seen it!

(Boy, this posting was a waste of 2 minutes!)

Mary <hoffmann.mary7@gmail.com>
- Sunday, February 24 2013 15:49:40

Greetings, Earthlings...
Shagin: I know it's a couple of months late, but I purchased "The Twelve Ways of Christmas" from Hydra House just now. (Man, it feels good to have a regular job!) I've been advised by the site that it'll take about 3 business days to ship out...I can hardly wait! And as for all that medical hooey you're going through...may it cease and desist and leave you in peace. I think you've been through enough.

Now on to other musings...

I've been trying to avoid television lately, as the amount of IQ dropping content on that glowing tube has left me a bit sick...public television is about the only thing I'll watch without reaching for the remote. (The only other thing that has prevented me from flipping channels is the recent Eagles documentary on Showtime...well worth the watch.) The Kardashians still inhabit the airwaves with all the stubborness of mussels clinging to the piers at the beach. It has also made me aware that other reality shows are determined to show women in the most unflattering light possible. The "Housewives" series has reduced the fair sex to whining about what this person said to that person, a shopping trip turns into a bitch fest, and it's come to the point if someone sneezes on a pair of very expensive designer shoes, that turns into an entire episode.

Wow...that's all we've got, ladies?

We can do so much better.

Television has indeed turned into a veritable wasteland of stupidity. And here's the Ellison quote that sums it up perfectly for me:

"In times past, the worst you could get from insomnia was dark circles under your eyes; these days, the penalty is brain rot."
Harlan Ellison "The Glass Teat".

Please...young ladies of America, turn off the reality drivel and try some public television for a change. If not that, then how about NCIS, where Abby is a far superior role model than some two bit overdressed twit from Beverly Hills? Change the channel in your heads girls...you won't regret it.

Even better, READ! There's a great author by the name of Harlan Ellison I'd LOVE to introduce you to...no really, you'd love him...

There be my thoughts for the day...Cheers, Art Deco dwellers...

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Sunday, February 24 2013 11:27:44

BARBER: Just saw the poster. There is much goodliness to it.


Five minutes ago I opened an email informing me that a friend had sent me an Amazon.com gift card. I thought it was spam...until Doug confirmed that my crit group contacted him about gift ideas to help lift my spirits.


So, some people would say "yeah, it's a gift card, big deal."

I neither asked for, nor expected, one damn thing from anyone as the result of my recent medical crap dance (ongoing, with another call into the doctor half an hour ago). This is a wonderful gift.

Sometimes, people surprise you...


Steve Barber <thumbnailtraveler@verizon.net>
- Sunday, February 24 2013 10:17:22

Foood, glorious fooood!

New blog entry on the art of not-so-fine dining. The best way to find the spirit of a place is through the neighborhood diner....


FRANK -- Yes, Ecuador has a 4.1% unemployment rate. Several states have lower rates. Several European states as well. And Asian.

China boasts a 4.1% unemployment rate, but this may or may not include rural communities, where technically "everyone" is employed by the government -- a state of being we would consider to be "on welfare".

What you're missing is the "Quality of Life" angle, which is a completely different set of standards. Everyone having a job isn't really meaningful if they're paid a poverty-level wage.

Is the quality of life in Ecuador preferable to Haiti? Heck yes.

Canada, not so much...

Glad several of you liked the mocked-up Harlan quote for a Thumbnail Traveler poster. I've got a different quote I'm intending to use for the "official" line, though this one works well enough it may end up there too.


EU - Sunday, February 24 2013 4:18:5

Edward Morris about a book called Chick Bassist by Ross E. Lockhart: “Chick Bassist was, for me, the most fun read of its type since Harlan Ellison’s Spider Kiss." (www.haresrocklots.com/a-new-blurb-for-a-tuesday-morning/)

David Twohy on Harlan - http://davidtwohy.wordpress.com/2013/02/23/harlan-the-great/

Have a good Sunday everybody.

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Sunday, February 24 2013 3:8:38

Stoker - Shadow Show

Oops, meant to post this link that shows all the Stoker nominees:


Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Sunday, February 24 2013 3:6:9

Bram Stoker Awards Shortlist - Shadow Show

Yay! The anthology SHADOW SHOW (stories in tribute to Ray Bradbury) has been shortlisted for a Bram Stoker Award. The book contains a Harlan story and essay.

the Shadow
- Sunday, February 24 2013 2:53:22

Seems like some newbies -- readers who are just getting familiar with Mr. Ellison's oeuvre -- have stopped by of late, and since his more serious, darker, works usually get the nod from those recommending stories to read, thought I'd mention some of Ellison's funnier stories. I purposely didn't include stories which are mostly funny, but contain a bit of serious ("'Repent, Harlequin'...", or "The Man Who Rowed Christopher Columbus Ashore" or "From A to Z in the Chocolate Alphabet" and "From A to Z in the Sarsaparilla Alphabet", "The Frog Prince, Or Sex Queen of the Martian Pleasure Domes", f'rinstance), sticking with flat-out funny.

"Mom" (which can be found in THE ESSENTIAL ELLISON, and STRANGE WINE), "Laugh Track" (ANGRY CANDY), "Prince Myshkin, and Hold the Relish" (ANGRY CANDY & THE ESSENTIAL ELLISON), "Working With the Little People" (STRANGE WINE), "Goodbye to All That" (HARLAN ELLISON'S DREAM CORRIDOR VOL. 2), "I'm Looking for Kadak" (APPROACHING OBLIVION), "How's the Night Life on Cissalda?" (SHATTERDAY) and "Express Delivery" (MINDFIELDS), "Ecoawareness" (APPROACHING OBLIVION), and "Santa Claus Vs. S.P.I.D.E.R." (THE BEAST THAT SHOUTED LOVE AT THE HEART OF THE WORLD)

Check 'em out sometime, especially when you're in need of a laugh!

David Ray <shaneeray@comcast.net>
Bellevue, WA - Sunday, February 24 2013 0:24:1

Harlan & Beaumont
Charlie, thank you for the link to the Beaumont memorial. A very interesting program!

Centipede Press has just published three Beaumont titles - The Intruder, Run From The Hunter (written with John Tomerlin) and Mass For Mixed Voices which is an expanded edition of Selected Stories containing Harlan's introduction to "The Howling Man".


Kenneth Stevens <stevens.kenneth@gmail.com>
Knoxville, Tennessee - Saturday, February 23 2013 20:22:51


"I'd kill for an 4.1 rate of unemployment.

"And that guy is a socialist! Leftism works, you wonderful people! Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

"Shit, I still live here. Damn."

Then go Greyhound to North Dakota, where the unemployment rate is a mere 3.2%, a figure substantially better than Ecuador's.

Steve Barber <barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Saturday, February 23 2013 14:53:12

I decided to do it anyway...just for us kids



Hope you enjoy.

Frank Church
- Saturday, February 23 2013 13:27:17

Ecuador has an unemployment rate of 4.1 percent! That is fucking nuts. Poverty is going way down. Raphael Correa gets a huge reelection and our media sides with the opposition. Something is fucking nuts about our world.

I'd kill for an 4.1 rate of unemployment.

And that guy is a socialist! Leftism works, you wonderful people! Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Shit, I still live here. Damn.

Tim McMahan
Omaha, NE - Saturday, February 23 2013 9:47:56

Harlan mentioned by Seth Godin - on working for free...

Godin is an author/thought guru/entrepreneur who talks about post-industrial revolution, how ideas spread, marketing, quitting, leadership and change in his super-popular blog. He references Harlan's "pay the writer" video rant in the above-linked entry.

St. Pete, FL - Saturday, February 23 2013 3:17:56

Harlan & Beaumont
I was checking youtube for some Charles Beaumont and stumbled upon 1.5 hours of Harlan, Matheson, et al. discussing everything Beaumont on the 20th anniversary of Beaumont's death. Harlan even reads one of CB's terrific short stories. BTW there are no identifiers in the description that it's Harlan et al. Probably why Jan missed this one. And now, for your entertainment...


- Saturday, February 23 2013 2:47:7

? Raven
I have no idea what you are talking about T. Raven. My last couple of posts weren't advice-related, and were made to other commentators in the Pavilion. A case, perhaps, of a little too much Vino and not enough Veritas? :) In any case, glad you're having a good time, and remember to take the bus!

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Friday, February 22 2013 22:41:51


Feeling good and loose tonight!
Happy Friday, Everyone!

p.s. VOR - perhaps you can pull back a little bit on giving unsolicited advice? I hate it when strangers suggest that they know best what I should do, think, etc. Put a little bit of that focused laser beam on yourself...it sucks that everyone you know was VERY aware that you have bad breath...and you wonder why no one ever mentioned it before?

I'm mentioning it.

Tim Raven

Robert Morales
New York City, New York - Friday, February 22 2013 19:44:1

I'm beginning to think FinderDoug has gotten hold of that beta Pavilion app all the kids are pining for, so readily did he answer Harlan's query as my clumsy fingers reached for the Ellison speed-dial to give the man the very same answer ... leaving me in know-it-all interruptus. So I'll redirect my impulse and pass along this tip:

If you're a Michael Connelly fan or a Robert Crais fan or someone who'd more sanely value Lee Child's word or Joyce Carol Oates' opinion over mine ... let me recommend the John Cardinal novels by Canadian crime writer Giles Blunt. Set in Blunt's solidly created Ontario town of Algonquin Bay, this is a wonderfully nuanced series of police procedurals that've yet to disappoint me. In order, the books are FORTY WORDS FOR SORROW, THE DELICATE STORM, BLACK FLY SEASON, BY THE TIME YOU READ THIS, CRIME MACHINE and UNTIL THE NIGHT. The last two aren't available in U.S. editions, but they were worth tracking down.

- Friday, February 22 2013 19:1:9


"With Bloch And Bormann In Brazil" - Installment 7 of THE HARLAN ELLISON HORNBOOK.

Who luvs ya, baby?

- Friday, February 22 2013 18:35:47

Good stats, Jan, but...do patent applications reflect innovation, or a desire to make money?

Maybe both.
Either way, an application doesn't necessarily mean a working innovation will follow.

- Friday, February 22 2013 18:20:18


The piece I wrote on my Rio de Janeiro stint with Robert Bloch. The story of the Nazi across the street. Where did it appear in its long form? I need a copy.

Was it a part of the introduction to THE BEAST THAT SHOUTED LOVE AT THE HEART OF THE WORLD, titled "The Waves in Rio," or did I do it as a separate essay at greater length for one of my essay books--AN EDGE IN MY VOICE or THE GLASS TEAT or maybe even WATCHING? Thanks in advance for ay assistance.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Can anyone help me with this brain-fart?

- Friday, February 22 2013 16:43:32

Harlan ~

Thank you - I will!

A brief heads up too, I decided to write you following up our converstion here a few months back (the "ya don't understands people!" one). Considered talking on the phone, but having thought it out, correspondence is better.

It's definitely about "my" problem, not yours. Just want to succintly tell you a little bit about it - in GOOD spirits.

Thanks again.

Cologne - Friday, February 22 2013 15:18:2

I think the U.S. is pretty innovative:

Rank Country No. of Patent Applications (2010)
1 Japan 502,054
2 United States 400,769
3 China 203,481
4 South Korea 172,342
5 Germany 135,748

If some of you are unhappy with how America is doing, I can tell you that Germans are unhappy with how Germany is doing in a lot of ways. I think this is true in every country where people are able to form their own opinions.

- Friday, February 22 2013 14:37:42


Those issues of THE HULK and THE AVENGERS are available from my wife. Ask her the prices.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

the Shadow
- Friday, February 22 2013 12:21:36

Short Story Collections on the NYTimes Bestseller List
It's great to see short story collections hitting the NYTimes Bestseller list with some regularity again -- particularly when the writer, like George Saunders, who wrote TENTH OF DECEMBER, is someone who has -- like Harlan Ellison, Ray Bradbury and Jorge Luis Borges, among others -- earned a reputation largely by writing short stories.

VAMPIRES IN THE LEMON GROVE by Karen Russell just showed up on that list, too; and while she gained more publicity from the one novel she wrote thus far, SWAMPLANDIA!, her first book -- ST LUCY'S HOME FOR WOLVES -- and entire output, thus far, has her residing pretty firmly in the mostly short stories camp of writers.

Viva le Short Ficciones!

Steve Barber <thumbnailtraveler@verizon.net>
- Friday, February 22 2013 12:10:23

Updates and Upstarts

Let me thank everyone again -- particularly Rosemary for your very sweet note -- regarding Cris' recovery. She's doing well enough to overdo it, which is typical for my chicksinger. She had a wonderful and, if you'll excuse the expression, "eye-opening" discussion with "R Pal" regarding some options and suggestions. It's very safe to say that she'll not be letting the same doctors who did her first procedure -- the results of which are excellent, we admit -- touch her other eye.

(For anyone catching up, it was a minor but traumatic incident in which they operated on her ye without administering a sedative.)

KENNY NOOR - Thank you for the kind compliment. I have been delving through the Ellison books in my library looking for a proper Travel quote. (It's astounding how much the man has to say about writing.)

At first I was tempted to use the obvious one: "Never be afraid to go there", which is loaded with portent and possibilities. But common sense prevails and I will be asking permission to use what will probably be far more appropriate to my needs.

(This is the first quote from a living person, and I am an ardent supporter of "get permission before using".)

Oh, and lastly, have just returned from Amazon.com where I reserved this little thing called "7 Against Chaos".

Kenny Noor
- Friday, February 22 2013 9:57:22

Some very kind words from writer Bernard Schaffer on working with Harlan Ellison can be found here http://schooloftheages.webs.com/apps/blog/show/23557870-indie-author-interview-bernard-schaffer-and-a-moving-harlan-ellison-story

Jan Schroeder <janmschroeder@aol.com>
Clermont, FL - Friday, February 22 2013 6:26:24

Thank you Harlan
Dear Harlan,

Today's the 20th anniversary of the first airing of the Babylon 5 pilot, "The Gathering". I just want to take a moment to say Thank You for all you did as creative consultant and voice talent and as an actor on the show. Your work enhanced and enriched the B5 universe. Thanks very much.

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Thursday, February 21 2013 21:53:25

I was going to say something really snarky
But I restrained myself.....

- Thursday, February 21 2013 21:28:39

Germany vs the USA, as regards innovations and such
I suspect the answer to your question, Frank Church, lies in the still-obvious fact that American businesses and politicians look at everything via the short-term, greedy view (as in, "How quickly can I make a Profit?" and "What's in it for me"?).

That hasn't truly changed.
With a bit of luck, and a little less ignorance and more education -- self, or otherwise -- amongst the constituency, that may start to change.

That place in the link you provided DOES remind me of the cities described in CAVES OF STEEL by Asimov -- albeit with a lot less "stank" and a lot more panache and appeal.

David Loftus <dloft59 (at) earthlink.net>
Portland, OR - Thursday, February 21 2013 16:58:0

Loftus is back
I have no idea whether anyone's pointed this out before, but I recently ran across an Ellison reference in the second Inspector Rebus novel by Ian Rankin, _Hide and Seek_. Early in the story, the protagonist is examining the site where a young man has apparently died of a drug overdose, although there are occult markings at the location, as well:

"Next to the sleeping bag was a bin-liner half filled with clothes, and next to this a small pile of dog-eared paperbacks: Harlan Ellison, Clive Barker, Ramsey Campbell."

Top billing, Harlan!

Another happy surprise. This year's Nebula nominations came out the other day, and I was astonished to find two young friends of mine are on the list for best novel of the year. These are not writers who had a national reputation as published authors when I first got to know them, but sometime Portland residents (one still here, one moved on to Chicago) that I worked with as a performer.

I recall doing short play readings and auditions alongside Tina Connolly six or seven years ago, and around the same time, Mary Robinette Kowal and I did voice acting with Willamette Radio Workshop in live dramatizations of "The Hobbit" and "Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde."

Now they're both up for the Nebula! That's pretty way cool. By coincidence, I had prevailed on one of my book clubs to read and discuss Mary's first novel, _Shades of Milk and Honey_, which we'll be meeting to talk about in a couple hours, this very evening.

I know I haven't been around here much in the past few years, but I hope to be around more in the future. Facebook is getting too noisy and demanding; and I want to do more writing of my own this year, which I hope will be sparked a bit by hanging out with you folks.

- Thursday, February 21 2013 16:25:6

Hulk book, with the focus on Jarella: 'The Brute that Shouted Love At the Heart of the Atom

One of my favorite comics ever. A 2-parter, beginning in Avengers #88 and continuing in Hulk #140 drawn by Herb Trimpe.

Had it in my collection only to be lost in the 1980's when I was moving - godammit!

The saga, btw, exemplifies what I miss so sorely in the movie (and tv) translations of the Hulk character. The books were SO superior to said incarnations, as they delved more into the conflicts between pain, desire, and limitless power.

One day I'll get these two books back!


I also treasure your Daredevil (#208 - 'The Deadliest Night of my Life"). This one I still have in my collection!

Incidentally, it was your issue here that introduced me to the Winchester House in San Jose. Never even heard of it until I got the book! Stumbled across this information on the web years ago learning of the story's basis.


From the usual wish list: I wish there had been - in its heyday - an Ellison plotted Fantastic Four! Especially since Ben Grimm was Jewish!

This is another one that failed in all film incarnations - worse than anything else by FAR!

Robert White <robert_white1366@att.net>
Eight Mile, Alabama - Thursday, February 21 2013 15:0:38

United States
I apologize if my choice of wording was confusing, Mr. Ellison. I'm aware that your Batman stories were plotted and written by you and you alone. I only have your Avengers, Hulk and Batman stories as of now and will be tracking down the others you mentioned forthwith.

Mike Cobley <cobley_mike@hotmail.com>
Irvine, Scotland, UK - Thursday, February 21 2013 14:51:58

quote sourced!
Harlan, many thanks for providing the Carlyle quote in all its fullness. That's what I need for the wall at my desk, most definitely!

- Thursday, February 21 2013 14:14:18


Savants akin to Scott V. Norris, Doug Lane and Barney Dannelke
are likelier than I (odd as it may seem, having done the work only fifty-sixty years ago) to have definitive answers on the "P.F. Costello" pseudonym as used (if ever) by one Ellison, Harlan. The operating author was assigned, namewise, by the editor in every case, and "P.F. Costello" was usually reserved for, and used by, the then-editor, Paul W. Fairman, a splendid chap. But it might've happened; I just don't have the biblio exactitude handy.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

- Thursday, February 21 2013 14:3:24


You have been partially misinformed. No one but I ever wrote a jot of plot or a word of story of the two Batman stories bearing my name. Yes, Roy Thomas had some great fun writing the dialogue for my Hulk/Avengers crossover, but everything in the comics world with my name on it is mine, including the first of the two-part DAREDEVIL continuity. Arthur Byron Cover was seeking to break into the medium, we have been good friends since he was my student at Clarion decades ago, so I slipped him into the credits. I plotted both issues, but Arthur wrote the latter entry. Book one...all mine. Batman books: definitely and unequivocally mine; same for my recent SPIRIT gig. Every panel down to the shadows on Commissioner Dolan's office door...mine.

Coincidentally, there seems to be a peculiar upsurge in interest in my Hulk book, with the focus on Jarella. Got an inquiry for an interview on same from a dude in Canada working for some magazine, got it just yesterday. Are there inimical forces subtly at work in the undersphere?

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Rosemary Connors <rosie3bee@yahoo.com>
Ardmore, PA - Thursday, February 21 2013 14:1:50

Steve Barber, I hope Cris is doing better. For some reason, her eye surgery story has stuck in my head - her situation to me hits some disturbing places in my psyche. Please know there are extra good wishes for peace and healing being beamed to her from Philadelphia, birthplace of Liberty and W. C. Fields (not necessarily in order of importance).

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Thursday, February 21 2013 13:6:50

More for John Pickett

John Pickett,

perhaps we're overwhelming you with our recommendations, but if it's more Harlan that you're looking for, I'd like to recommend you browse the informative and appealing ISLETS OF LANGERHANS website maintained by Michael Zuzel. Here's a direct link to the books page:


As for other authors, I would also add Neil Gaiman to those already listed. (And if you want suggestions of authors who are no longer with us, check out Theodore Sturgeon, especially anything from the 1950s onwards. Then throw in a little Jorge Luis Borges for good measure.)

Scott Lawrence <s.lawrence888@verizon.net>
- Thursday, February 21 2013 11:54:41

Hit and Run, and P.F. Costello
Jason, thank you for the confirmation of Harlan's authorship of "Hit and Run". I'll send a note to Steven Barber to see if this info can be added to the biblio database and story list.

Do you (or anyone) know if anything by Harlan was ever published in Fantastic Science Fiction under the house 'nym "P. F. Costello"?

Frank "brainy" Church
- Thursday, February 21 2013 11:53:57

Diane, daffodil:



Great discussion about the Oscars, movies with Harlan's buddy Leonard Maltin;



I'm sorry, but this is why Germany is kicking our asses. An indoor resort:


Why can't we do this here? It would get people to stay here in winter so they would avoid giving their money to Hawaii or some cruise ship that will make them smell like poop.

We can learn from Europe--their transport, their food, their cafe culture, their amazing high speed internet, we are getting our asses handed to us.


Slavoj Zikek says Gangham Style is the most evil song ever made. He is right. I fear South Korea will dance themselves into wearing armbands and burning books.

Stop the music is what I say.

Shannon Nutt <shannonnutt@comcast.net>
Pittsburgh, PA - Thursday, February 21 2013 11:34:54

Book Suggestions
This if for Mr. Pickett...I too, recommend THE ESSENTIAL ELLISON if you want a nice collection of Harlan's work. If you're also looking for non-fiction, HARLAN ELLISON'S WATCHING remains one of my favorite collections...especially if you're a film fan.

Robert White <robert_white1366@att.net>
Eight Mile, Alabama - Thursday, February 21 2013 10:42:7

United States
Mr. Ellison, as a great admirer of your writing talents I had a few questions/comments about your all too infrequent work in comics.

I'm a huge fan of your Incredible Hulk issues. Since that character has always been my personal favorite of the Marvel pantheon, those issues hold a special significance for me. I've always been a fan of Jarella and the concept of the subatomic world that you created in those issues.

I was curious how you came about to write for those issues of the Hulk and Avengers (I do realize that Roy Thomas wrote the dialog for the Marvel stuff) as well as your classic Detective Comics issue with Gene Colon? Was there ever any intent on your part to work with Marvel and DC to a greater extent?

And one final comics related question. Did you personally select the artists for your Dream Corridor series for Dark Horse?

Mark W. Tiedemann <mwtiedemann@earthlink.net>
St. Louis, MO - Thursday, February 21 2013 10:19:59

For some authors, I have a standard response when asked which work is good. "It's all good, some's better." Harlan is one of those. It's all good, some's better. Just read until you find what work fits which part of that claim.

Tom Morgan
Silverado, CA - Thursday, February 21 2013 9:17:38


John Pickett:

Harlan often gets requests for recommendations, either for works of his own or others. It seems to me that he gets tired of it but tries to be gracious. Back in August of 2011 he took the time to post here a good sized list of books and films he felt worth recommending. I realize you asked for "current authors" and this list includes classics like Moby Dick, but it also includes recent releases. It is also not limited to fiction.

So go to the Comments Archive (link at the bottom of this page), ask Mr. Peabody set the Wayback machine to August 24th, 2011, and dig in.

A good day to all here.

Adam-Troy Castro
- Thursday, February 21 2013 9:13:5

In Response
The current heir to Asimov in particular is Robert J. Sawyer.

Beyond that: China Mieville, Robert Reed, John Varley; I am currently agitating for Jennifer Pelland's MACHINE to get a Hugo nomination; and there are a few Bradbury claimants, including one Robert Jackson Bennett.

James Levy <susjpl@hofstra.edu>
Syosset, New York - Thursday, February 21 2013 8:43:1

To John Pickett

I think that if you like Harlan, you will also enjoy the work of J.G. Ballard, Thomas M. Disch, and the early work of John Crowley (The Deep, Engine Summer, Little, Big). Robert Bloch, James Tiptree, and Alfred Bester's works are also congruent with those of Mr. Ellison. I you need a shortcut, check out the series The Best of the Nebulas, especially those that deal with the 1970s, to pick up on authors of Harlan's callibre (there aren't many).

If anyone here thinks I'm all wet, please give this man some better advice.

Ken Dunham <konandaman@yahoo.com>
Myrtle Beach, SC - Thursday, February 21 2013 8:20:25

I wanted to say that I always loved harlan's books, I've read almost all of them, since i found them in the library at my college, i read them through 2001 in 9/11, and God bless, I pray for your family harlan, and i wanted to tell you that you are getting a great following on facebook, u should move this forum over to facebook, God bless have a good day mater : ))))))
God bless,

Lori Koonce <purplelynn35@gmail.com>
San Francisco, CA - Wednesday, February 20 2013 16:32:47

Hey Frank
You are aware that there is no viable way to know if a person will be violent before they commit violence.

Suggestions like yours are asinine at best.

- Wednesday, February 20 2013 15:17:3


There are so many accessible sources for recommendations of which of my 100 books to start with, I am loath to jump in and say ANGRY CANDY or WEB OF THE CITY or one of the titles recently published by my Edgeworks Abbey at harlanbooks.com. But if you want an overview, I suggest you nose around Amazon and suchlike for THE ESSENTIAL ELLISON, which is a fifty-year retrospective. Actually, I'm sure others here will direct you to their personal favorites. It is embarrassing for me to do likewise.

Good luck, and thank you for the kudos. Hang around here; you'll find likewise-minded kiddos who enjoy my books, and my audios, as well.

Yr. pal, Harlan

- Wednesday, February 20 2013 14:16:23

WTF Frank?
"Please don't take this in the wrong way, but I absolutely hate it when women won't let me read their pantyliner covers."

That out-of-left field comment was for you, Frank. Do you see how a non-sequitur, dropped in the middle of nowhere, is not only confusing, but it also becomes meaningless in the context of wholly separate conversations?

Weird, huh?

john Pickett <johnp51157@live.com>
Gainesville, FL - Wednesday, February 20 2013 14:11:31

Library help needed
First off I want to let Harlan know that I am grateful for his many works both for TV & Print!
Now for my conundrum and request from our esteemed host.
I recently spent a few days as a patient at the local VA hospital
and while their meager library fills only one section of fiction
I was happy to see a copy of Slippage there!
So I reread it again but was at a loss for more material.
To boil it down now that Asimov Bradbury and Clarke are no longer
with us I need to expand my reading list to include current authors in addition to Harlan's many works
I need recommendations

Frank Church
- Wednesday, February 20 2013 12:39:6

One idea was that every child should get a brain scan to see if they have violent tendencies. I am not a doctor, but that is one idea.

Jason Davis
Burbank, California - Wednesday, February 20 2013 11:25:15


"Hit and Run" is indeed Harlan's. It also appears--in slightly revised form--in his newest collection, ROUGH BEASTS, as "Hit-Skip."

Scott Lawrence <s.lawrence888@verizon.net>
- Wednesday, February 20 2013 11:0:0

Hit and Run
Hi Harlan. I recently obtained the June 1957 issue of Trapped Detective Story Magazine for my collection, which contains your stories "A Woman So Evil" (by Harlan Ellison) and "Her Name was Death" (by Ellis Hart). It also contains a story titled "Hit and Run" as by Landon Ellis. The Islet site lists this as a name under which some of your stories appeared, but this title is not on the Webderland story list. Is "Hit and Run" yours, or did the Trapped editor apply this byline to another house writer? Thanks.

Kenny Noor
- Wednesday, February 20 2013 9:55:32

To the excellent photographer who is looking for an Ellison quote to marry with a picture, I offer:
From Sleepless Nights in the Procrustean Bed, page 61, an essay title, "Rolling Dat Ole Debbil Electronic Stone,"
"Nothing is precisely what it seems to be. Anything can be a paradigm of life's important lessons. "

Steve Barber <barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Wednesday, February 20 2013 8:6:6

First off, thank you to everyone who expressed support and concern over Cris' surgery. She is in no pain today and is due to get the bandages off at 9am this morning.

Unfortunately (and Harlan, Susan, I will call to give you more later based on your message yesterday) the surgery itself was pretty traumatic. The tranquilizer they gave to her was virtually worthless, and they continued to work despite her repeated comments that she was in pain and fully aware -- which she had been assured would be heeded immediately in the pre-surgery review.

The 9am meeting will be a rather pointed one I'm afraid. Stay tuned.

On a completely different note: The website io9 has a fascinating and rather chilling article on Fredric Wertham, who in the famous book THE SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT decried the influence of comic books on America's youth. It had a profoundly chilling effect on the industry, vestiges of which are still visible sixty years later.

His records were released in 2010, and it appears the man completely lied about his research...


II've been putting together some travel-related posters using quotes from some famous individuals (need to find one from Harlan) and matching them with my photographs. There are now five of them.


Let me know if you like.

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Wednesday, February 20 2013 2:9:53

Newspapers mailed

I mailed the package yesterday morning. It should arrive on Friday or thereabouts.


- Tuesday, February 19 2013 16:43:20

I've been a contributor to a bi-annual magazine called The Painted Brain now since last July. Next week, the new issue comes out with an article I wrote last August.

This is a peer-driven arts and outreach non-profit designed to inform and empower the community about mental health and mental illness among young people.

I am anxious to participate in the issue after this, as it will be devoted to the topic of violence that has swept the country. This will include an examination of how the media portrays the issues in their reports and the nature of mental illness in particular. (For instance, it is inadequate, to say the least, to simply report that the Sandy Hook assailant "had Asperger's, a condition leaving the subject unable to empathize with other people"; imagine how many millions of lay listeners now imagine people with Asperger's as dangerous!) Among other things, I will contribute a short story to that issue. I have a good one lined up!

Anyway, the following is from my blog on the Painted Brain website, imparting my first experience last Fall with the organization's arts therapy workshop event (attended by +300).

(It feels a bit like working for the staff of Mad Magazine!)


What Went Through The Fly’s Mind As He Hit The Windshield?

By Rob Van Gessel

October 15, 2012

Last week I talked about The Painted Brain Mental Health Arts Workshop, a vast event composed of therapeutic sessions applying the arts to achieve emotional symptom relief. That afternoon I had participated in the drama workshop and the exercise left me with many thoughts.

The session consisted of three stages: the warm-up – wherein we would prance, skip, and gamble to the instructor’s cue, to prepare ourselves physically and metaphorically for the main activity; the performance exercise, in which we acted out emotions in a simple story, again cued by the instructor; and finally the process of closure, which allowed us to verbally reflect what had taken place during our enactments.

The first stage was pretty awkward, for most of us I imagine. On cue, we did anything from a lumber to a crawl. I can be as thespian as anyone, but it’s not easy diving into this cold when your emotions had been sedate the whole day. Feeling at first like I had surrendered my dignity, I would later, without realizing it, become more malleable in the course of play-acting. I guess that’s why they call it the “warm-up”.

Then the role-playing began. I was still uptight, not knowing what to anticipate; not knowing if I had it in me to deliver a performance that wouldn’t embarrass me. I felt like the fly about to hit the windshield.

Again, however, the dramaturgy was written in phases. Our first exercise was entirely verbal, where we sat as a group responding to “what if?” questions; the second, each of us enacting an emotion based on a photo; the third, and most impactfully, a performance done in separate groups based on a simple story premise.

It is the last I want to talk about. My group wove together a scenario in which the withdrawn teen, Sandra, had closed herself a way behind a locked door; her family was alarmed and begged her to come out and talk about what was troubling her. Up to this point, throughout all the exercises, I could not help but notice every emotion we had enacted was warm and happy; the sense that all our woes were removed without conflict.

Given that catharsis is the object of drama therapy, I felt an element of emotional honesty was required; to free ourselves of an anxiety we need to directly acknowledge the crisis behind it. We can’t fix a leaky roof, I thought, without looking at where the holes are.

Abruptly piercing the uninflected tone of saccharine and tolerance, without any warning, I came up with Uncle Bob. As the family tried to sweet-talk Sandra into coming out, Uncle Bob abruptly hollered, “Sandra! WHAT the HELL are ya doin’? GET yer spoiled ass out here RIGHT now, ya promiscuous slut! Yer holdin’ up dinner, and it’s gittin’ yer Uncle Bob all ired up! WHAT the hell ya been up to ANYWAY? We’re goin’ to the free clinic right after dinner!”

OK. Not so clever so much as unanticipated, the irony, nevertheless, seemed effective and everyone laughed. That was the intended effect. We find catharsis through a joke because it holds the essence of truth; absurdity gives us the courage to look our emotional issues directly in the face. In our story, I felt it was important to remember that many coping with emotional pain had abusive, self-centered relatives who were uncommunicative if not outright hostile about the problem. Conflict is what drives us to find solutions; association with the notion of disorder. Ironic resonance exposes the source of pain, and when the curtain drops we’re all able to talk about it. This is what we did in the last phase of the session, and therein lay the true therapy, as I saw it. Without playing out emotional honesty, I don’t see how I can find renewal.

Many of us have or had an ‘Uncle Bob’ somewhere in our lives. What is the last thing that goes through a fly’s mind as he hits the windshield? His ass. That was Uncle Bob you just saw.

Frank Church
- Tuesday, February 19 2013 15:46:51

I am on my prayer rug about Cris. I hope she sells every cd she can. So there.

Andrew Laubacher
Buffalo, NY - Tuesday, February 19 2013 12:57:17

Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, Part 2 (DVD/Blu-ray)
Just popped on to note that the line attributed to Unca' Harlan in Frank Miller's graphic novel was ommitted from the animated adaptation. Also, the character of late-night host David Endocrine is voiced by Conan O'Brien rather than David Letterman.

The movie should please most fans of the comic, 'though Bruce's internal monologues are either excised or incorporated into dialogue (which means that some of the best lines in the book are gone).

- Tuesday, February 19 2013 12:36:53


THANKS, BUT NO THANKS. I'VE ABOUT REACHED MY PLIMSOLL LINE WITH EAGLEMOSS PRODUCT. I've collectd allthe Marvel and DC miniatures from the start, with the binders, et al; and by now Marvel is up in the high 200s, memorializing characters so moot and obscure, only a fool such as I would retain the obsession. The DC series (thankfully) has concluded somewhere around 100-150 and I'm sighing relief. But I also went for the Batman chess set, which I now think has been a foolish endeavour...it actually would be madhatterland to try and play a game of chess using such disparately outproportional figures. Even got the board. Yes, it's all beautiful, and decorative, but in the world of tshotchkes whereat I exist, no room for display, and no hope of ever using it in actual combat. Sadness, frustration, and guilt.

So. Dr. Who figurs are a no-start for me.

Thanks for asking; you asked the right guy, at the wrong time.

Yr. pal, Harlan

- Tuesday, February 19 2013 12:36:53


THANKS, BUT NO THANKS. I'VE ABOUT REACHED MY PLIMSOLL LINE WITH EAGLEMOSS PRODUCT. I've collectd allthe Marvel and DC miniatures from the start, with the binders, et al; and by now Marvel is up in the high 200s, memorializing characters so moot and obscure, only a fool such as I would retain the obsession. The DC series (thankfully) has concluded somewhere around 100-150 and I'm sighing relief. But I also went for the Batman chess set, which I now think has been a foolish endeavour...it actually would be madhatterland to try and play a game of chess using such disparately outproportional figures. Even got the board. Yes, it's all beautiful, and decorative, but in the world of tshotchkes whereat I exist, no room for display, and no hope of ever using it in actual combat. Sadness, frustration, and guilt.

So. Dr. Who figurs are a no-start for me.

Thanks for asking; you asked the right guy, at the wrong time.

Yr. pal, Harlan

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.com>
Naples, FL - Tuesday, February 19 2013 11:30:41


My very best to the songbird.


Alan Stephen <j.stephen4@sky.com>
Aberdeen, Scotland,UK - Tuesday, February 19 2013 7:14:44

Doctor Who Figurines
Eaglemoss have advertising for their new Doctor Who collection
see it at dw-figurines.com.
Not on general release yet and no information when they will be though they are on sale in some test areas in England.

Is it something your interested in Harlan?

Keep well.


oz - Monday, February 18 2013 23:27:7

A quotation from Madame Bovary, and a note to Alex Jay...
ALEX JAY: Mmmmmmmmaybe your son should transition to, say, the illustrated version of "'Repent Harlequin!'...", or TROUBLEMAKERS, first, before moving onto MINDFIELDS. :)

I was recently reminded of a terrific, and frame-worthy quote from MADAME BOVARY by Gustave Flaubert: "One should be wary of touching one's idols, for the gilt comes off on one's fingers."

Cheers from Oz,

Alex Jay Berman <alexjay@gmail.com>
Philadelphia, PA - Monday, February 18 2013 22:26:40

Some Notes of Cheer
Odd confluence I felt I should share: My wife and I share very few interests. And she's not a very good spy; she doesn't tend to look for any wishlists I may have, or get ideas for gifts from looking through my music, movies, or books.

So it amazed me when her Valentine's Day gift to me was a package containing ROUGH BEASTS and NONE OF THE ABOVE. I didn't think I had ever told her that BUG JACK BARRON was one of my favorite books of all time, and how she would have even FOUND HarlanBooks' offerings is beyond me. (Honestly, I had thought she had asked Jay Smith for advice.)

Turns out that she got the idea from looking at my framed and signed High-Verbals poster, randomly picked Harlan's name over that of Neil and PAD, and somehow not only lucked into buying books of Harlan's I somehow don't have, but bought the one which contains the screenplay I've wanted to read since I first heard of its existence years ago. Boggles the mind, it does.

Want another cheery note? My 18-month-old son's absolute favorite book, which his grandparents are REQUIRED to read for him several times ad nauseam over the course of each and every visit, under pain of pout, is RAP A TAP TAP, the wonderful children's book about Bojangles by Leo and Diane Dillon.
(I figure it shouldn't be too hard to transition from that to, say, MIND FIELDS.)

HARLAN: If it makes you feel better, Adderall is what got Carlos Ruiz, stalwart backstop for my beloved yet woebegone Phils, suspended for the first 25 games of the coming season. (All the major sports leagues ban it as a stimulant unless it is used with an approved prescription for ADHD--yet most of the football players who admit to using it probably haven't; they're just saying that's what their suspensions are for, since the current NFL drug/privacy policy means that the league is not allowed to come out and say, "Adderall, hell! We don't care WHAT they say; the drug they were actually banned for was steroids!")

STEVE BARBER: The best of health to your lovely chanteuse.

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
bremerton, Washington - Monday, February 18 2013 22:6:41

CRIS: Cataract surgery is a comparative breeze. I had one removed a few months ago, and it made quite a bit of difference. Use the drops as instructed, listen to your doctor's instructions, and be safe.


- Monday, February 18 2013 20:25:4

Hey Cris!

... just gave you an "h" for health -- oops, 'cause ya know, without our health...

~ Dave (sidelined and knowin' you'll be fine).

Dave Martens
- Monday, February 18 2013 20:8:59

Chris' procedure

Sending good thoughts your way, Chris. Don't sneeze for a while!

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Opening an Ellisonian Time Capsule box tomorrow after nearly ten years. I believe WATCHING is in there. Yippee!

John E. Williams
- Monday, February 18 2013 19:46:6

Good thoughts for Cris Barber.

Don Hilliard <dbhilliard@peak.org>
Bayshore, OR - Monday, February 18 2013 19:2:0

Le - While I believe HE has expressed the same or similar opinions over the years in various venues, I suspect the essay in question is "An Edge in My Voice" #12 (the last published in _Future Life_ and the first in the L.A. _Weekly_.) While most of it deals with the ugliness of modern horror films (particularly _The Omen_, and the revolting responses of the immediate audience), there are a couple of memorable sidebars that match about 90% of the remembered piece.

Diane Bartels <dianebartels99 @comcast.net>
Merrionette Park, IL - Monday, February 18 2013 18:58:50

Cris Barber
Steve, I will keep your lovely lady in my thoughts and my prayers tonight and tomorrow.

Steve Barber <barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Monday, February 18 2013 17:53:7

Thoughts, por Favor

Cris is going in for (relatively) minor surgery tomorrow morning to repair a cataract in her left eye. If you all just give a little nod in her direction, would be sincerely appreciated. It's very basic surgery, but as is often the case, anything can happen.

Side note: Her eyes are one of her most magical and beautiful features. The doctor has been advised that I will be inspecting her work VERY closely. ;-)

the Shadow
- Monday, February 18 2013 17:32:49

Echoes From the Past -- Revealed at Last!
There are definitely some "Echoes From the Past" -- specifically, in Mr. Ellison's essay (and introduction to STRANGE WINE, as well as afterword to the most excellent, THE GLASS TEAT OMNIBUS), "Revealed at Last! What Killed the Dinosaurs! And You Don't Look So Terrific Yourself -- in a recent article about the effects of too much TV on children.

This one is from the Associated Foreign Press link:

And this is from the "Forbes" online link:

Frank Church
- Monday, February 18 2013 14:35:21

Now, this is why I am so fond of this Ellison kid. I have a vast fondness for the quote, especially one that bites down, chews off the bone and spits.

Sometimes all you need is a quote.

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous."


"We’re creators by permission, by grace as it were. No one creates alone, of and by himself. An artist is an instrument that registers something already existent, something which belongs to the whole world, and which, if he is an artist, he is compelled to give back to the world."

Henry Miller.

"As long as politics is the shadow cast on society by big business, the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance."

John Dewey.

"It is not necessary for the public to know whether I am joking or whether I am serious, just as it is not necessary for me to know it myself."

Salvador Dali.

"Reason cannot desire for man any condition other than that in which not only every individual enjoys the most absolute, unbounded freedom to develop himself out of himself, in true individuality, but in which physical nature, as well, need receive no other shaping by human hands than that which is given to her voluntarily by each individual, according to the measure of his wants and his inclinations, restricted only by the limits of his energy and his rights."

Wilhelm Humboldt.

" So if I asked you about art, you'd probably give me the skinny on every art book ever written. Michelangelo, you know a lot about him. Life's work, political aspirations, him and the Pope, sexual orientation, the whole works, right? But I'll bet you can't tell me what it smells like in the Sistine Chapel. You've never actually stood there and looked up at that beautiful ceiling. Seen that. If I ask you about women, you'd probably give me a syllabus about your personal favorites. You may have even been laid a few times. But you can't tell me what it feels like to wake up next to a woman and feel truly happy. You're a tough kid. And I'd ask you about war, you'd probably throw Shakespeare at me, right: 'Once more into the breach, dear friends.' But you've never been near one. You've never held your best friend's head in your lap, and watch him gasp his last breath looking to you for help. I'd ask you about love, you'd probably quote me a sonnet. But you've never looked at a woman and been totally vulnerable. Known someone that could level you with her eyes, feeling like God put an angel on Earth just for you"

Good Will Hunting script. By a certain Academy Award Winner.

"Some day, even the experts will figure out, that crime is not caused by rap music...or even my music, but by a power structure of self-absorbed property owners so brain dead and stupid they won't even see that if you're too goddamn greedy to pay taxes for schools and services, they're not going to be any good any more! And that uneducated time bombs are a very poor investment as a future work force. And if you go on teaching people that life is cheap, and leave them to rot in ghettos and jails, they may one day feel justified in coming back to rob and kill you. Duh!"

"We on the left keep dividing ourselves into little splinter groups. "Anyone who isn't a vegetarian is automatically evil!" "Anyone who isn't an environmentalist wants to pollute the world!" "If you're not gay, then you must be homophobic!" "Look at me wrong? You're a racist!" "Wear lipstick? You can't be a feminist!" Divide, Divide, Divide, Divide, Divide! And while the left is all up their own asses with their little pet causes, the right comes in and takes control over that which is rightly everyone's."

Jello Biafra.

- Monday, February 18 2013 13:13:41


The quotation is from Bertolt Brecht; it cocncludes, "Hopefuly, I take my place among the sellers."

I am a quote freak. I have book after book, and all the leading bookhelf edges on three sides of my wriing space are filled with hundreds of plaques and typed incunabula, all the way back to Cicero, and as current as James Blaylock. I am inspired by the most sapient.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

the Shadow
- Sunday, February 17 2013 18:3:19

The Question
That last post reminded me of this video -- and there's a Harlan connection, 'cause (waitforit) he once raved about Wilson's acting, either in his initial review of "Back to the Future", in HARLAN'S WATCHING, or in the follow-up review (a column wherein he re-evaluated, a bit, 'cause he took the first "Future" in context with the two sequels, the second being the best, of course).

And now...The Question:

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Sunday, February 17 2013 15:28:42

Question(s) for Harlan Ellison
The Carlyle quote causes me to ask you, when was the last time you added such a quote to your office, and what was it? Do you copy it down in the moment you encounter it or do you return to it later?

Also, who was it who said, "Each day I journey to the marketplace where lies are bought. Hopefully, I take my place among the sellers"? I am quoting you quoting on an appearance on THE TOMORROW SHOW with Tom Snyder, but I have heard you quote it again subsequently (DREAMS WITH SHARP TEETH?).

Has anyone ever put up quotes from BUGFUCK in their home or office? There use to be a little application for Macintosh called "Talking Moose" where a litle animated moose would appear up in the corner of your computer screen after moments of inactivity and spout off some saying or another. I wish someone would make a little animated Harlan quoting BUGFUCK. Wouldn't that be fun?


- Sunday, February 17 2013 13:54:12


Apart from the salient material in the other section with the poll, everything else (Unclipped, in situ) is dross; so
I need only the front page of the first section, and if it's convenient, the indicia page. Don't need extraneous matter for the archive, just what's necessary to estabslish provenance. That goes for all of ya in future circumstance such as this.

Thanks, pard. Yr. Pal, Harlan

oz - Sunday, February 17 2013 12:12:31

Feel Good Flick
Anyone (ya listenin' Frank?) lookin' for a Feel Good Flick, should check out "The Sapphires", based on a true story about some lovely Aboriginal Australian singers who made a name for themselves. Good stuff! :)


Cheers from Oz,

Indy, - Sunday, February 17 2013 10:55:56

Carlyle quote
I never knew HE had a plaque of this but after I first read it in his work (I want to say "Strange Wine" I had my own plaque made of it.

Frank Church
- Sunday, February 17 2013 10:24:39

Dorman, you have to enter the forums to go further--a place I know you never have entered--to discuss religion, since Harlan doesn't much care for it discussed here.

I will give you two very good clues to my own succor: Dorothy Day, MLK.

As for animals, I have a gerbil-mmm babeee.

Beautiful Northridge, CA - Sunday, February 17 2013 9:55:8

What Harlan Ellison essay is this?

"Years ago, I read an essay by Harlan Ellison where he bemoaned how people acted in movie theaters. He talked about how, in his youth, going to the movies was like going to an opera or to a play; where people dressed up and it was a big thing. He blamed television for the trend of people acting like they were in their living rooms when they were in movie theaters."




Just got home a little while ago. Unwinding now by sipping a lovely hot cup of Rooibos tea and listening on headphones to the wonderful music of that great Austin-based band, Explosions in the Sky....


Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Sunday, February 17 2013 4:22:13

Harlan: Plain Dealer

Either I was mistaken or the Plain Dealer website was misleading, but today's arts section has all 100 celebrities and photos.

I'll be sending you two copies of that section. Do you also need the front page section of the paper?


Oz - Saturday, February 16 2013 15:14:21

Note to Frank
FRANK: First, just wanted to say that it doesn't matter how many truly good (or great) films you see which take on the subject of the Holocaust, I'm not sure one ever gets the complete, visceral impact of that event until after visiting what is left of one of the camps, in Germany (I visited Dachau twice -- the first time by choice, the second time after someone twisted my arm to accompany her and her parents). Not sure what is left at that site, but when I went parts of the "living quarters" had been reconstructed, and one could walk into what used to be the "showers". And, finally, there were the ovens -- the woman with whom I was with, both times, had to bend down near the bricks and sniff, but because I seem to have an extraordinarily strong sense of smell (one of the reasons I get along with dogs so well -- I'm half canine), I was nearly overcome with the sickly/sweet smell of burnt felsh that seemed to still be in the brickwork. It hit me like a wave as soon as I entered the oven "area". I'm not sure if the ovens are still there -- I saw the place, both times, in the mid-to-late 1980s -- but just seeing the camp and seeing some of the still-existing buildings from that camp, will have a greater impact than any film, trust me (the gate, with it's "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign is chilling enough).

Second, looking to religion for something other than man seems...I don't know...futile, I suppose. After all, _men_ -- literally men, since most women wouldn't have imposed some of the laws and/or made up some of the stories -- devise those religions to which you turn to for solace (and too often, those religions couch lies and manipulations within the fables the spin).

You could do better.
To borrow, or paraphrase, a bit from one of the more popular religious tracts, "Consider the trees and the rivers and flowers (lilies or otherwise), the oceans, the animals, and even the gorgeous, wide, big blue sky. There's plenty there that has _nothing_ to do with "man" (or humankind, if one needs the PC version). Take a look at the videos of that meteorite that exploded over the Urals -- not a whiff of "man" about it. Powerful, indifferent to our petty struggles, and most _definitely _awesome_!

Or, if you need something a bit easier to find, look to your pet at home -- if you don't have one, get one, ya dummy. Every time I interact with my unbelievably bright, eccentric, funny and always _happy_ Am-staff/boxer, I'm reminded of how cruel and loving, and self-important we humans can be. Cruel and loving, because of the way his breed is too often abused by the greater number of idiots amongst our kind; loving, because there are a few humans who _don't_ think or believe animals are here strictly for the entertainment and benefit of humankind. Self-important, because science is only just beginning to understand how complex are the brains of _dogs_, something dog lovers have known all along. With that in mind, imagine, sometime, how much we've underestimated the minds of creatures like dolphins, whales and gorillas and orangutans, merely because they don't behave and react the same way humans do.

Forget _man_-made religion for succor, Frank. Turn to the natural world around you. There's plenty there which has nothing to do with _man_-kind.

Cheers from Oz,

Diane Bartelsss <dianebartels99 @comcast.net>
Merrionette Park, IL - Saturday, February 16 2013 13:53:27

United States
Harlan, thank you,been trying to work on my writing. Again, still; and that quote was just what I needed to see. Thanks again.

Frank, what is that movie about? Sorry to be stupid, but I haven't heard of it.

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Saturday, February 16 2013 13:50:46

A very merry Happiest of Birthdays to Mr Joe Wehrle, Jr!

Another February birthday is my namesake, Jimmy Durante, on Feb 10th.

Let us eat cake.


- Saturday, February 16 2013 13:49:28


The full quotation is one of my all-time spurs to achievement, and has been on a plaque very near above my typewriter for fifty years. It is from Thomas Carlyle (circa 1795 - 1881):

"PRODUCE! PRODUCE! Were it but the pitifullest infinitesimal fraction of a Product, produce it, in God's name! 'Tis the utmost thou hast in thee: out with it, then. Up! Up! Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy whole might. Work while it is called Today; FOR THE NIGHT COMETH, WHEREIN NO MAN CAN WORK."

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Frank Church
- Saturday, February 16 2013 11:23:25

The other day I saw Night and Fog. Good, God, try to sleep after that.

I had a hard time looking in the mirror. This is why I am religious--to find something other than man.

You all have to see it--forced to see it.

I wonder if that film was seen in America when it came out? You know, our moral laws about film. Moral laws? Bah.

Brian Siano
- Saturday, February 16 2013 11:23:9

A website that may be of interest to Harlan
I posted this on my Facebook, and Sara Slaymaker suggested that Harlan would enjoy it. It's a website devoted to an all-but-extinct artisanal skill... the ability to paint backgrounds, skies and scenery for films.

The paintings are lovely even when they don't look "real," the artists get their due, and the guy who assembles these pages clearly loves his project because this must take a LOT of work.


JOE WEHRLE, JR. <wehrle1@verizon.net>
Punxsutawney, PA - Saturday, February 16 2013 9:43:29

Birthdays: My daughter shares a birthday with Jules Verne, Feb. 8th, born just 140 years later than Jules. Yesterday was the birthdate of Sax Rohmer, THE BAT FLIES LOW, TALES OF SECRET EGYPT, BROOD OF THE WITCH QUEEN, etc. Today is mine, and I will be celebrating it with my cat, who has no clue as to what year it is, much less whose birthday. But my daughter will be coming around later. And I made whole wheat, honey-sweetened cake, with peanut butter fudge icing!

The Night Manager <roadpoet@rock.com>
Duncan, British Columbia - Saturday, February 16 2013 9:37:51

"Pay the writer, dammit!"
A heads up for you writerly types. WHITE CAT magazine does not honor its contracts and does not pay its writers. My story "Imprint" appeared in the October issue and, after numerous follow-ups regarding my promised payment, I took the step of contacting the other writers whose stories appeared in the issue. None have been paid. The publisher's name is Rick Moore. I sent him a final notice and a link to the YouTube clip of Harlan's rant "Pay the writer." Thank you, Harlan, for inspiring some of us to grow the balls to stand up to these assholes.

Jim <jrwsaranac@gmail.com>
Montclair, NJ - Saturday, February 16 2013 9:27:30

Podcast about TCotEoF
These guys do a podcasts about individual Star Trek episodes. And before you lose you lunch at the mere thought of listening to several minutes of Trekkies pontificating -- give these guys a chance. They have just covered our host's foray into Trek, and I unashamedly admit to finding their commentary delightful and thought-provoking. http://http://www.missionlogpodcast.com

Linda P. Golan <lpgolan@hotmail.com>
Livonia, MI - Saturday, February 16 2013 8:38:7

Just wanted to say, enjoy reading all the comments for a long time now.
Nice to see other like minded people.

Be well!

Fred Keller <fkeller@scicable.net>
Sandstone, MN - Saturday, February 16 2013 8:0:13

Hunting Down An Old Quote
That is a favorite of mine. It's from Thomas Carlyle's 'Sartor Resartus' and runs thusly:

"Produce! Produce! Were it but the pitifullest infinitesimal fraction of a Product, produce it, in God's name! 'Tis the utmost thou hast in thee: out with it, then. Up, up! Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy whole might. Work while it is called Today; for the Night cometh, wherein no man can work."

Barney Dannelke <dannelke@gmail.com>
Allentown, Pennsylvania - Saturday, February 16 2013 7:4:46

Which, itself is a paraphrase (or a crib) from the King James John 9:4... "I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work."

But hey, steal from the best (after Billy Shakespeare) I say, and leave your knife.

Mike Cobley <cobley_mike@hotmail.com>
Irvine, Scotland, UK - Saturday, February 16 2013 6:42:40

hunting down an old quote
To HE et al, I`m trying to track down a quote that Harlan mentioned in one of his essays (the title of which has likewise slipped what remains of my mind), but it was to do with the artist's urge/need to create something, and started thus:

'Produce, produce! Thought it were the (most meagre?) of (something) produce! For a great night cometh in which no man can work....'

- which is the best my fragmentary recollection can come up with. Thoughts and elucidations?

EU - Saturday, February 16 2013 5:17:53

Harlan is #45 in The Plain Dealer's Cleveland celebrity countdown (ongoing until Sunday)
Directly to Harlan:
The surroundings of the city are generously included, so 45 is good.

Marvel has a Harlan comics overview page now which gives access to samples of the digitized ones

Brian Phillips
McDonough, Georgia - Saturday, February 16 2013 4:15:30

"Pay the Writer": Hidden Subtext
Since Harlan's thoughts are so fascinating, I feel that it is best to listen to or read any annotation that is available to me. I have seen the "Pay The Writer" clip any number of times, but I, apparently, was missing something. So, I hit the "cc" button on YouTube which turns on the "Automatic Captions (English) feature, and I was able to see the subtext of what I thought was a fairly straightforward diatribe.

It is most illuminating.

Here are some excerpts (I've added punctuation):

"...yeah woman called reaches his her we'd like to use it on the DVD. Can that be...a razor's absolutely right? That is, baby. She said, "What?", decapitated. He said, "Well, everybody else's doing it for nothing, well, everybody else may be a national but I'm not."

"...you can use my ear mite, my interview."

"I guess your due a freebie from Warner Brothers"

"...and a problem is that there's a document e writers who have no idea that they're supposed to be paid every time they do something."

"Good loaded with a look at me and will be noticed moot."

"You tell me, are they any less the media hora tonight?"

For those of you who thought "At the Mouse Circus" might be worth a second or third reading, I suggest you try this. Woe betide anyone with hearing challenges who has never read any Ellison. Who can coerce them to read his work after seeing this? Only the true intellects among us are, as Harlan puts it, "Noticed Moots"

"Janitors make it tough for the professionals" - Harlan Ellison

How True,
Brian Phillips

Clipping Service
- Friday, February 15 2013 13:42:39

"Pay The Writer"
crosses 700,000 views on You Tube. The SAME day that a "meteor" crashes into the Urals.

Coincidence? Or conspiracy?

We cannot say "yes". But we cannot say....."No".


Tony Rabig
Parsons, KS - Friday, February 15 2013 9:54:24

Gerald Kersh reprints coming this fall
Just a heads-up, gang. According to Amazon USA, Faber Finds should be reissuing Gerald Kersh's Sgt Nelson of the Guard, The Horrible Dummy and Other Stories, and The Best of Gerald Kersh this fall. Amazon UK shows these titles, and also shows The Thousand Deaths of Mr Small and The Song of the Flea (and I'd guess these two will also be available from the US store soon). More good stuff to watch for, as if we weren't all broke enough already...

Bests to all,

Chuck Messer
- Friday, February 15 2013 4:29:20

A Thunder in the Skies

It seems a meteorite exploded over Chelyabinsk in Russia, injuring four hundred people (mostly from flying glass), three seriously. Some fragments landed in a nearby lake. SF writers have been speculating about events like this for decades. At least no one was killed, at least as far as anyone yet knows.



Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Thursday, February 14 2013 22:59:1

Rick Keeney
Per your suggestion, refer to the thread "Spill yer guts" in the forum.

Your Bud,

Diane Bartels <dianebartels99 @comcast.net>
Merrionette Park, IL - Thursday, February 14 2013 22:52:32

Congratulations Steven on your good news. I hugged my cats, they are good huggers.

Steve Barber
- Thursday, February 14 2013 9:55:22

Happy Valentine's Day

Hug someone you love.

Lawrenceville, - Thursday, February 14 2013 5:37:36

Hi Harlan & Susan,

Sorry to hear about your daily pill diet. But happy that you are taking care of yourself. Give Susan a BIG HUG for Valentine's Day and enjoy that heart shaped dessert.

John E. Williams
- Thursday, February 14 2013 4:39:59

I always thought "Harlan Ellison" WAS a euphemism for speed.

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Thursday, February 14 2013 0:50:49

That Was Weird
I'm used to hearing snippets of songs and then my brain going into a series of moebius loops trying to place it. "Oh, it's so-and-so from the such-and-such album". And when you do finally figure it out, then you're instantly transported to a place and time when you experienced it.

But today I experienced that with Harlan Ellison. "The Voice From The Edge", as we have been discussing of late (see posts below), is available from iTunes. Today I selected (vol 4) "The Deathbird and Other Stories" and hit the preview button. I listened to 30 seconds or so of (what was for me) a totally random unnamed Harlan Ellison story. And instantly I'm thinking "Oh shit, I just reread that last year. Oh don't tell me, it's from MINDFIELDS". And then I am instantly remembering reading on this site about when Tim Raven helped Susan at the storage unit and they moved some boxes and unearthed some copies of MINDFIELDS that were previously unavailable and everyone was ordering them as fast as possible. And which then prodded me into digging out the copy of MINDFIELDS that I owned, packed away way back in the corner in MY storage unit in LA, so that I could then drive it back 2000 miles to my home in Chicagoland to be with the rest of my Ellison Library. And then back at home, pulling it out of my book case and then sitting in my comfy leather chair in the corner and rereading "Ellison Wonderland".

Very nice!


Greater McCormick Park, IL - Wednesday, February 13 2013 23:27:30

pile it up, pile it up -- high, on the platter

Yes, thank you, Shadow.

Oops. Last evening's post regarding the followup to SHATTERDAY & OTHER STORIES implied the yet produced (hopefully) Vol. 6. I accidently reversed Volumes 4 and 5. Looking forward to_Volume 4_(that's the one awaiting me now after Vol. 5). Doing these latest entries backwards fer some reason which is I'm keen on the reading of "All The Lies That Are My Life," and have already been floored by "Shatterday" and "Flop Sweat."

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Higher hells, lower heavens, Blowin' -Out-Our-Livers-Department: Wow. Better I shut up now since I'm on my fourth Beck's Sapphire. My drug of choice lately. Will investigate the forums once again on this subject. I had issues similar to Marjorie's attempting participation a few years back.

Still trying to get my Pony Express package ready for HERC.

Best to Harlan, Susan and all Webderlanders.

Tim Derrick <t44s77@msn.com>
Imperial, CA - Wednesday, February 13 2013 20:34:10

More stories
Yes, thank you, The Shadow! I love those stories too! Heck, I like everything Harlan Ellison has written that I have read (even when I have to go look up the big words).

Steve Barber <barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Wednesday, February 13 2013 16:22:47

News of the Day

(Other than Harlan's obvious good drug connections. Ziiippp!)

I have several news items I hope to get up over the weekend and then begin a regular update of the News page. I have good stuff from a couple of sources (Thanks to Jason and others for your rapid response).

Things have been downright nutty for the last several months, but now that we have regained our home and sanity I'm hoping ("Hope is not a business plan") to keep y'all abreast of the good stuff.

Some cool recent news for me personally. Got my first request to use one of my quotes in an endorsement of a product (a photography app for travelers). The web-age equivalent of your first back-of-the-book quote.

Secondly, the book using one of my photos for illustration is headed to the presses and will be released as a Kindle Book later this year.

REMINDER: In case you aren't paying attention. This will be of massive benefit to the oblivious guys who may have forgotten TOMORROW IS VALENTINE'S DAY. Plan Accordingly.

Thank you.

This has been a public service announcement from Unca Harlan's Art Deco Pavilion.

William Sherman
Boxford, Massachusetts - Wednesday, February 13 2013 14:54:12

Hang In There
Dear Mr. Ellison:

As a twenty year subject of the Kingdom of Lithium for treatment of bipolar disorder, allow me to wish you the best. It's not easy.


William Sherman
Boxford, MA

Chuck Messer
- Wednesday, February 13 2013 14:30:10

Pills, pills, pills.

Although I'm lucky to be taking only one mood med, I do take two pills for blood lipids, one for high blood pressure, one for reflux, and a multivitamin to stave off a bad case of pernicious dandruff, mogo in the mogogo and rowfie-dow-dow.

Oh, and Alavert for a long bout of allergies and I huff Qvar for my lungs.

Harlan and me, two pharmaceutical wonders. We baffle science.


- Wednesday, February 13 2013 14:3:31


Dear Fellow Inmates:

Wheeeeeee! Oh where, oh where, in the pastel world of pharmacopia am I today? What'd he say? Well, I suffer with, as you know, ANHEDONIA. Three years now,and counting.

So, just as a fillip for those who keep asking me how's your health, and how ya doin' today, this small advisement: I take
a sumptuous banquet of neurophrmaceutical jollies on a daily basis: to be precise, an ever-changing panoply of nostrums and savage poultices that would shame Joo-Joo-Bee, the witch doctor.

About 12 a day; one or more heart thing a day and this mood-alterer and that moodie, one thing after another. This week they weaned me off something bcalled Effexor (YOUR DEPRESSION WILL EVAPORATE LIKE JOHN BOEHNER'S!!!!) and today started me on half a pill of Adderall. Since the former only made me more depressed, and certainly hasn't helped John (what a sad looking little cow he was at the State of the Union address, clinical depression and all), we are hoping Adderall will turn the tide.

Turns out, after all thse years clean, medical science has put me on no less than speed, though many there be who assert I've been pumping it in my system since the start.

Oh well. Just a Voice from the Styx.

Yr, pal, Speedy Gonzalez

Frank Church
- Wednesday, February 13 2013 13:0:21

Thom Hartmann shows how an actual progressive gives a speech:


Obama wouldn't be caught dead saying any of this.

Ray, when you hear people on tv talk like Thom then you can talk.

EJ Dionne would not say this, not Rachel Maddow, not Al Sharpton. Call me when you do.

Sixty Minutes has been on for decades but Chomsky has never been a guest. He should have been on at least 3 times.

Call me Ray!

Ray Carlson
Chicago, - Wednesday, February 13 2013 12:52:7

Hating the left is media policy since Reagan?


You're joking, correct? To see how bootlickingly left the mainstream media is checkout Newsbusters each day. Then take your meds.


- Wednesday, February 13 2013 9:20:58

7 Against Chaos (I think I got it right this time!):

Paul Chadwick is an excellent artist and I'm anxious to see the book!

Jerry Seward <thinman@journalist.com>
Saginaw, MI - Wednesday, February 13 2013 9:4:38

For any fans of the late Susan Oliver - a Kickstarter campaign: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/806849424/the-green-girl?ref=live

The Shadow
- Wednesday, February 13 2013 1:58:17

The Voice From the Edge -- get some!
Yo, Tim Derrick & Martins, if you two dug Volume 5, check out "The Deathbird & Other Stories: The Voice From the Edge, Volume 4. It, too, is filled (I say, filled, son!) with "incroyable" stories and readings! Including, but not limited to, "The Whimper of Whipped Dogs" (a reading by Ellison which was, I believe, available only in an anthology of crime stories until now), "The Beast That Shouted Love at the Heart of the World", "The Man Who Rowed Christopher Columbus Ashore", and "How Interesting: A Tiny Man".

Some VERY good stuff in volume 4, too, my fellow audio aficionados.

And Jimmy, I too, dig me some "solid" CDs -- replete with very cool artwork on the jewel case covers -- but Volume 4 and 5 are only downloads, and have been so since their release two years ago.

Tim Derrick <t44s77@msn.com>
Imperial, CA - Tuesday, February 12 2013 22:32:4

I agree with Martens. SHATTERDAY & OTHER STORIES is great!

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Tuesday, February 12 2013 22:16:44

Just Checking
Are THE VOICE FROM THE EDGE vol 4&5 available as a download only? I feel this is the case, but if CDs or Audio Cassettes were available from HERC I would most certainly spend my money there.

Happy Mardi Gras


Greater McCormick Park, IL, - Tuesday, February 12 2013 21:38:8

Just purchased the above (subtitled THE VOICE FROM THE EDGE, VOLUME 5).

It is such a sweet vibration of the airwaves. It's available at iTunes and / or Amazon.

Gonna get the followup soon. Thanks, Harlan! It's beauteous.

Don Hilliard <dbhilliard@peak.org>
Bayshore, OR - Tuesday, February 12 2013 19:40:9

Frank - Just because you haven't seen TRUE GRIT doesn't mean the rest of us haven't. (Odd how that turn of phrase entered modern urban language from a relatively old and thorougly white Western. Almost as odd as the '80s Valley Girl phrase "gag me with a spoon" apparently originating in a Heinlein short.)

Steve Barber and Eric F. - If I misunderstood, I apologize.

Mark Goldberg <markabaddon@gmail.com>
Minneapolis, Minnesota - Tuesday, February 12 2013 15:8:58


I could not agree more on recommending "The Extraordinary Adventures of Adele Blanc Sec". My kids & I saw this film at a Convention and we were all blown away by it. You never know how young kids will react to their first subtitled film, but they loved it. It was one of the more unusual films I have ever seen and I would strongly encourage everyone to view it if they have the opportunity


Oz - Tuesday, February 12 2013 13:10:39

Extraordinarily Fun Entertainment!
HARLAN (and Everyone else who frequents the board): I know I touted this flick when it was first available on DVD, but back then it was only available via "Limey" resources on Amazon.coUK. Now you can buy it -- and maybe rent it, via the internet (don't know aobut such things) -- via the stateside Amazon.

"The Extraordinary Adventures of Adele Blanc Sec" (based on a French Graphic novel or two): I just watched it for the third time in two or three years, and it is every bit as fun and enchanting the third time 'round (a kinda sorta no-brainer ala "Big Trouble in Little China"). Yeah, it's got subtitles, but reading subtitles has never been more fun, given the raucous and goofy and adventurous nature of the flick.


Set in both Egypt and then (mainly) Paris, it's got a smart and beautiful heroine (Adele), mummies, doddering and inept government and police types, a pterodactyl, a mystic and...the Louvre!

If anyone _didn't_ check it out when I first recommended it (and why not?!), have a look now. You won't regret it. Lotsa fun, and who doesn't need a little of that in these semi-crazy times?

Cheers from Oz,

Frank Church
- Tuesday, February 12 2013 9:20:30

Steve Perry, I bet you just learned what bust a cap meant today. He, he.


How come we get a tea party response to Obama but not an occupy one?

You know the answer. Hating the left is media policy since Reagan.

Steve Perry <perry1966@comcast.net>
Beaverton, OR - Tuesday, February 12 2013 9:0:16

Bust a Cap
Tony --

Synovitis. Been there, had that, probably not to the surprise of those here who view me as a gun-tottin' redneck. (That's not why it's called "trigger finger," by the by, it's because of the way it sticks-and-releases ...)

Cause is tricky, but a lot of folks who keyboard a lot or play a stringed instrument get it, so probably use has something to do with it.

Conservative treatment ranges from NSAIDs, massage, stretching and ice, to less-conservative steroid injections. If those fail and the the finger starts to lock enough so you have to use the other hand to pop it loose, it's the scalpel.

We tried the first two, they didn't work, so went to the knife.

The surgery is done by an orthopod, is quick, outpatient, usually under a local, so you can watch if you want, and heals pretty fast. In my experience.


Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Tuesday, February 12 2013 5:2:24

Seduction of the Ignorant
A researcher is showing Freddy Wertham's anti-comics work for the essentially dishonest and clinical shoddiness it was. Excuse the stupid headline and read this article:



Steve Barber <barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Monday, February 11 2013 16:2:29

TONY - But is it an itchy one? This is an important consideration.


ERIC - I appreciate the clarification, too. I was under the same impression as Don, and I'm now certain that's not the way you meant to come across. I'm not a writer, per se, and your note didn't address anyone but Harlan, but as a strong advocate of Copyright Law I'd say the game publisher's uppermost pointed extremity needs to be extracted from their proverbial backside. And I'm sure the judge will do so.

New blog entry.

Frank will be thrilled -- I give everyone permission to pilfer the posters in this entry, no strings attached.

Not the text, just the posters.


For the first time in six months we do not have house guests or their pets. We sent our long-term roomie on her merry way in early January, but what I did not mention to Harlan or Susan (or any of you) is that her dog continued in residence for another four weeks. Um, yeah.

I know, I know, I know, I know. I know.

As the Raven once observed: "Nevermore".

EU - Monday, February 11 2013 14:29:48

From the department of "Does Harlan know this": The French graphic novel "Le Retour de Cromwell Stone" (1994) by Andreas (Andreas Martens) opens with a quote by Harlan on the smallness of man in the universe, which is also found on the back cover.
Cover: www.bedetheque.com/Couvertures/Couv_9551.jpg
Back cover: www.bedetheque.com/Versos/Verso_9551.jpg
Also came out in the Netherlands, Germany and Spain.

Frank Church
- Monday, February 11 2013 9:36:14

Poor, poor Popey. We know you are stepping down because of the boys you did not defend, but you did defend the scummy pedo-Priests. He aint sick but he should be.

Kiss our asses Popey.

Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Monday, February 11 2013 8:27:40

The Man In the High Castle
Syfy is going to adapt Philip K. Dick's award-winning "The Man in the High Castle" into a mini-series:


I guess I'm OK with that. Not sure. I'll have a conversation with myself and let you know.
But I suppose it's good that a new generation will get to know that great book.

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Sunday, February 10 2013 23:45:3

Trigger finger
Now that I'm over 60 - if you must know, 61 - my body likes to play cruel pranks on me. I was told yesterday that I suffer from "trigger finger," which, much to my surprise, is a real thing:


It's my right pinkie finger, which I need to look refined when I drink tea out of a little cup.

EF <ericfurman@fastmail.net>
Tampa, FL - Sunday, February 10 2013 22:27:16

Reply to Mr Hilliard
Comments in text

Don Hilliard dbhilliard@peak.org
Bayshore, OR - Sunday, February 10 2013 18:19:28

EF - A few points for your consideration:

1. MCA Hogarth is a woman, not a man. Knowing your basic facts doesn't hurt.

My apologies to Ms Hogarth, but her gender was irrelevant.

2. As of a day or two ago, her novel "Spots the Space Marine" is available again as an e-book on Amazon. Whether this means that Games Workshop has completely dropped their action, or that Amazon unilaterally decided to give the bird to the takedown notice after the facts became known, is an open question...but for now, at least, GW has gotten major lumps (some 800+ posts to their Facebook page after they finally, following days of 'no comment' and 'our policy is not to talk to the media', posted a mealy-mouthed and inaccurate defense) and have backed off.

I'm really glad to hear this.

3. To paraphrase Neil Gaiman from a few years back...Harlan Ellison is not your bitch. By me, informing one of your favorite writers of an incident like this is neither wrong nor stupid. _Demanding_ that said writer respond publicly (on your side, presumably), within a deadline ("I'll give you a few days.") is BOTH.

Sorry, but it was not my intention. What I meant was that I am aware that Mr. Ellison is a very busy person and because of that I knew it may be awhile before he can read all the relevant material and respond (plus it is the weekend). My apologies again for my poor wording.
The only thing I demand is that he write more. :)

Oz - Sunday, February 10 2013 20:0:29

Note to Susan Ellison regarding HERC membership fees
SUSAN: Wanted to type this as separate note, to avoid confusion.
I finally (FINALLY) remembered to pick up a bank cheque when my me and my buddy, Irving, made our daily stroll past the bank, this morning.

Therefore, the cheque is in the mail (really -- no _really_)!

With much reverence, as well love and thanks for your hard work,
I say, cheers, from Oz,
HERC # 1168
P.S. Kiss the not-necessarily-better-half for me (no, no, no! NOT on the lips -- on the ring!) (Don't forget to genuflect as you do so).

Oz - Sunday, February 10 2013 19:52:45

A question and a note to Le in Northridge California
LE: First, the note.
I watched "Lore" over here in "Oz", where it came out on DVD already -- the director, Cate Shortland is Australian -- and I, too, enjoyed the film immensely, and (given my own heritage, a a grandfather who was eventually sent to the Russian front, a mother who dodged bullets after curfew during the Russian occupation after the war), was quite impressed with the way the director, the writers (one of whom was the director) and the actors handled the central concept of the film (children who grew up believing Hitler's Third Reich was normal, only to be disabused of that once the war was lost). And yes, especially given the limitations of the filming conditions (there's a featurette included, as well as interviews, on the DVD), _many_ of the shots are, indeed, quite beautiful. What makes this film _better_ than most of what Herr Malick has produced of late ("Badlands", "Days of Heaven" and "Thin Red Line" are still his best work) is (waitforit) the screenplay. I believe it was Christopher Plummer who came out publicly and said that Malick needs to hire a screenwriter. Couldn't agree more. If Malick would do so -- assuming, of course, that he hires a _good_ screenwriter -- the words would match the cinematography and his films would be worth watching again (I barely made it through "Tree of Life" -- oy!).

Second, the question (preceded by an observation -- sugar instead of vinegar, as my wife once pointed out): Your past posts regarding Harlan's work seem to have marked you as one who is (literally) in awe of Harlan and his writing. And therefore respectful of his wishes.
So, did you mean to type a subject line that would help to continue muddying the waters as regards the title of one of Harlan's forthcoming releases this year (a title, and piece of work, which he is apparently quite proud)?
(I purposely didn't type the title because I think, after the last few days, there's been enough confusion and so forth, but I think you can figure it out by going over the posts).
And, hey, if you think I'm out of line with the question, apologies ahead of time.

cheers from oz!

Beautiful Northridge, CA - Sunday, February 10 2013 18:41:43

Seven Against the City on the Edge of Forever
Wow, someone recently uploaded the Harlan Ellison show from the Masters of Fantasy program. I just finished watching it now. Very interesting and informative. Lots of Harlan Ellison and some notable names connected with him. Lots of great interior shots of Ellison Wonderland (and its 250,000+ books and 400,000 comic books).

One thing that really surprised me was how he revealed such a personal side to him on camera. At one point, we see Susan cuddling with Mr. Ellison on the couch as he reads to her from MIND FIELDS. He says in hushed tones, “I don’t want my wife to have to wander through these rooms…looking for me and looking or me laugh. I don’t want that. So I’m watching myself. Has it changed my life? Yeah. Every moment with Susan is a precious moment to me….”

Part 1:


Part 2:




This morning I treated myself to the first showing of LORE, which I liked a lot. I was hooked right from the beginning, and the film seemed to have everyone in the theater totally immersed in its world. Gorgeous cinematography, with so many evocative and striking shots reminiscent of Jane Campion and Terrence Malick.

I love the score by Max Richter...so moody and mysterious and beautiful. The main theme reminds me a great deal of the tintinnabular notes of the beginning of Arvo Part's piano piece called 'Variationen zur gesundung von Arinuschka.'

What a GREAT last scene! I want to see this movie again!


I am enjoying listening now to the beautiful sounds of "First Breath after Coma" by Explosions in the Sky (I will go see them perform live one day--yes, I will):


Don Hilliard <dbhilliard@peak.org>
Bayshore, OR - Sunday, February 10 2013 18:19:28

EF - A few points for your consideration:

1. MCA Hogarth is a woman, not a man. Knowing your basic facts doesn't hurt.

2. As of a day or two ago, her novel "Spots the Space Marine" is available again as an e-book on Amazon. Whether this means that Games Workshop has completely dropped their action, or that Amazon unilaterally decided to give the bird to the takedown notice after the facts became known, is an open question...but for now, at least, GW has gotten major lumps (some 800+ posts to their Facebook page after they finally, following days of 'no comment' and 'our policy is not to talk to the media', posted a mealy-mouthed and inaccurate defense) and have backed off.

3. To paraphrase Neil Gaiman from a few years back...Harlan Ellison is not your bitch. By me, informing one of your favorite writers of an incident like this is neither wrong nor stupid. _Demanding_ that said writer respond publicly (on your side, presumably), within a deadline ("I'll give you a few days.") is BOTH.

Steve Barber (belatedly): Your last immediately reminded me of the late Harry Harrison's "Not Me, Not Amos Cabot!". Art predicting Life once again.

Not Godwin
- Sunday, February 10 2013 17:59:14

Well, no
Godwin's Law was formulated specifically for message boards, and states that once anyone brings up Hitler, the discussion is over (and the one who did so has lost).

It would be nice if we could invoke it on radio hosts and the like, but that is what the "off" switch is for.

EF <ericfurman@fastmail.net>
Tampa, FL - Sunday, February 10 2013 17:30:23

No offense intended
This writer is being prevented from publishing because of his use of a very common phrase in the title of his work. You could be right Harlan may have mellowed over the years, but I believe EVERY writer should be up in arms over this. I remember when Harlan was a bulldog on issues like this and crossing him was at your peril.
I could be wrong, but I believe Harlan has the contacts to make life very difficult for 'Games Workshop' and easier for Mr. Hogarth.
And none taken.

Jordan Owen <jordanowen@me.com>
Atlanta, Georgia - Sunday, February 10 2013 17:2:41

re: Steinem and Hitler

No need to apologize- you're absolutely right. The expression, if you don't know it, is "Godwin's Law," which states that the longer an argument goes on the more likely it is for one or both sides to compare the opposition to Hitler and Nazi Germany.

Although I'm 100% in favor of abortion rights, Steinem's argument is flawed: Nazism took complete control of reproductive rights, mandating who could and who could not reproduce. The Nazi's were hardly about the unrestrained births encouraged by the "pro-life" agenda.

On a side note, I'm circulating a petition to be interviewed on Reason TV. If you have a moment, please sign:



Mark W. Tiedemann <mwtiedemann@earthlink.net>
St. Louis, MO - Sunday, February 10 2013 12:23:47


Fair is fair, regarding Steinem's remarks. If that's all she said, she was being unduly circumspect. The Prolife movement has been labeling pro choicers Nazis and likening abortion to the Holocaust for decades. In fact, abortion was a capital offense under the Nazis. They also promoted breeding programs, going so far in many instances of selecting partners, trying to create a dominant aryan "race." That's a little more than just being against family planning.

Frank Church
- Sunday, February 10 2013 11:43:34

Gloria Steinem was on MSNBC and she said something that kind of miffed me. She was talking about abortion, saying that Hitler had been against family planning. I'm sorry, but this is the same line of argument the guns nuts use to defend guns. Best both sides quit invoking Hitler so glibly.

- Sunday, February 10 2013 5:6:17

No offense intended
No offense intended Eric, but there are a LOT of writers who have battled copyright issues, and a lot of writers who have spoken out about the importance of standing up for oneself in that regard. So why do you believe Harlan Ellison can, and/or should, help with a copyright issue that doesn't involve him in any way, shape or form?

EF <ericfurman@fastmail.net>
Tampa, FL - Sunday, February 10 2013 2:58:55

Space Marine
I will give you a few days. Please read the links. A writer's rights are being seriously infringed. I thought you would understand. I know you can help.

Don Hilliard <dbhilliard@peak.org>
Bayshore, OR - Saturday, February 9 2013 16:54:37

Harlan - Glad to have tickled your dendrites. You definitely made an impression on Scheimer - the book mentions the project as having gone off-and-on over the course of at least ten years, and even includes a bit of pre-production art from the later iteration.

Nice to know it's going to see the light of day in some form, and I'm looking forward to it.

- Saturday, February 9 2013 15:32:2


Wow! Time and memory lurk in the shadows. I'd forgoten Lou Scheimer and Filmation entirely. Or any connection with HARLAN ELLISON'S 7 AGAINST CHAOS!

Imagine my surprise at your post....even being reminded that I'd discussed the project with Filmation so many years ago. I'd been yearning to do such a project, and we did discuss it, but it went nowhere. I held onto the deream, and when DC was looking for me to do a BIG project, YEARS LATER, I roused it awake, and Julie Schwartz and Dan DiDio went for it bg time. But it's the same germ: ALexandre Dumas swashbuckler, Kurosawa, The Magnificent Seven. But every panel is new,never before interprted, never befrore seen, with 4 (COUNT 'EM) 4 Chadwick covers!!

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Don Hilliard <dbhilliard@peak.org>
Bayshore, OR - Friday, February 8 2013 18:58:6

Harlan - Having recently read Lou Scheimer's autobiography and then Josh's description...is SEVEN AGAINST CHAOS an outgrowth of the SEVEN WARRIORS, SEVEN WORLDS project you worked on with Filmation for animated form?

(Only asking because that REALLY would have been a kick on the small or large screen.)

Steve Barber <Barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Friday, February 8 2013 18:44:40

Josh gets to read "7".

I get a copy of AARP The Magazine. Nyah.

You can't even buy one if you wanted it.

Josh Olson
- Friday, February 8 2013 12:35:42

7 Against Chaos
Not to gloat or anything, but while the rest of you have to hold your breath and pray you're not hit by a bus between now and April, I just finished reading 7 Against Chaos, the new graphic novel from Paul Chadwick, Ken Steacy, and some snot nosed punk comic writer.

It's terrific stuff, folks. A thoroughly enjoyable read. I can't wait for other people to get their hands on it so we actually discuss some of the gonzo ideas contained within. Calling it Seven Samurai in space doesn't do it justice. This is good shit.

Neener neener.

Frank Church
- Friday, February 8 2013 11:41:2

Nixon also created the EPA, supported price controls, went along with certain aspects of social welfare.

He was a thug but Obama is now getting thuggish as time turns with this support of drone murder.

Human rights entails that this means all humans, I'd think. Maybe ethics is a mug's game.


Kenneth, did the know Obama's FBI spied on the Occupy movement, labeling some of them as possible terrorists? Yep, it's true.

You should read the American Conservative. A venture into anti-imperialist right leanings is what you need.

Tom Morgan
Silverado, CA - Friday, February 8 2013 9:28:2


Paul A: Scroll down to Harlan's post yesterday (a couple of hours before yours) for the answer to your question concerning Harlan's DC editor.

A good day to all here.

Adam-Troy Castro
- Friday, February 8 2013 7:0:2

6.9 Against The City
HARLAN: As per our discussion, I have contacted the personage you suggested, re SEVEN AGAINST CHAOS (see, I got it right this time), and she says she will see to my request. Thanks!

James Levy <susjpl@hofstra.edu>
Syosset, New York - Friday, February 8 2013 6:8:0

To Mr. Isabella

What bothered me about Kenneth is that he had no problem whatsoever rubbishing Occupy based on something someone told him about one or two jerks in Pittsburgh or some such place. He seemed to have no problem with disparaging remarks then, but when you wrote something strongly disapproving of Orson Scott Card's religio-political worldview (decidedly right-wing and Mormon) he got in a pseudo-PC huff about being mean to people you don't know.

BTW, and this is opinion and speculation, so you can properly discount it if you wish, but what Harlan thinks of people is not binding on us. He lives his own life and can like whomever he wishes, and look past their foibles and beliefs if he so chooses. That's his business. But to quote Ellison so as to imply that the rest of us should concur is nonsense. If Harlan wrote once that he liked the Black Panthers, I doubt Kenneth would quote that approvingly and say, "you see--you should like the Panther's, too!"

Harlan Ellison has been performing without a net since he was 15 years old. Writing off people based on some litmus test of purity is a privilege only the most wealthy and well-connected can enjoy. I don't suspect he could have survived this long if he slapped away every hand offered in friendship that was connected to a brain that believed differently than he did. He knows Orson Scott Card and Jerry Pournelle in ways we don't and can't. I'd argue that we have every right to lambaste those men for their rotten political ideas. But if he defends them on personal grounds of knowledge and friendship, well, I have to recognize the validity of that without necessarily agreeing that those two men should not be publicly reviled for things they say.

It's a matter of perspective and point of reference.

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Friday, February 8 2013 2:40:22

When it comes to bigots, Card is as vile as they come.

The dictators and serial killers crap is Kenneth's ridiculous exaggeration of my comments. Maybe Kenneth likes Card. Maybe Kenneth agrees with Card's positions. Maybe he's just being your typical online...what's a polite term for jerk?

I don't know what Kenneth's deal is and I don't really care.

He's already taken up two minutes of my time and that's more than he could possibly deserve.

EF <ericfurman@fastmail.net>
Tampa, FL - Friday, February 8 2013 2:10:47

Space marine
Appy polly loggies, of course I meant 1932; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_marine#Appearances_in_fiction

Bob Olsen; "Captain Brink of the Space Marines";1932

EF <ericfurman@fastmail.net>
Tampa, FL - Thursday, February 7 2013 20:47:20

Space marine
Hello Mr Ellison,
I'm aware of you're passion for the protection of copyrighted material and writer's rights. So I was curious if you had heard about the case between M.C.A. Hogarth and a game company by the name of 'Games Workshop'? Seems that 'GW' feels that they own the rights to the term 'Space Marine', even though it was first used in 1934 and only about a billion other times since then. Some of the details of the issue can be found here; http://mcahogarth.org/?p=10593
It's pretty unbelievable...

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Thursday, February 7 2013 17:39:55

That Reminds Me
The mention and explanation of CUTTER'S WORLD reminds me that there is a very old entry on the NEWS page (12/04/00) about a feature film script collaboration between Harlan Ellison® and David Twohy on "Demon With A Glass Hand". Did this ever happen? Could we one day see that script published as a follow up to CUTTER'S WORLD?


Frank Stone
Stockton, CA - Thursday, February 7 2013 16:30:25

Cutter's World
Re Paul A's query: CUTTER'S WORLD is an unproduced tv-movie script of Harlan's (circa 1987) which is part of the "Earth-Kyba War" milieu, making it a companion piece to "Demon with a Glass Hand" and the short stories adapted for the graphic novel NIGHT AND THE ENEMY (Harlan mentioned it in his afterword to that book). I'm very glad that it will be seeing the light of day.

- Thursday, February 7 2013 15:53:32

Harlan - to avoid falling any further from grace, my accidental conflation of your titles was not meant as a joke. It was a bona fide brain fart! A moment of attention deficit while I was tying, having no idea what I'd just typed!

I didn't even see the humor in it, as I was too busy blushing! THEY did!

Sorry abt double-posting. Just clarifying the record.

Paul A
Front Royal, Va - Thursday, February 7 2013 15:52:38

Good Deed
Floated the press release for 7 AGAINST CHAOS to my friend and reviewer Lonnie Nadler (he's done me a solid in the past by raving about my first anthology, TORN REALITIES) over at Bloody Disgusting. If he's interested, I might ask for the name of your editor over at DC, Harlan.

And, to the at-large, can someone fill me in on what is CUTTER'S WORLD? I keep hearing it referenced here, but must've missed something. I'm still waiting for ROUGH BEASTS to be sold singly.


- Thursday, February 7 2013 14:12:3

(Alright, I admit that I have no review column and I fervently deny ever having said that I did.)

- Thursday, February 7 2013 14:11:26

At least it hasn't been called Web of Chaos yet!

Kenneth Stevens <stevens.kenneth@gmail.com>
Knoxville, Tennessee - Thursday, February 7 2013 13:34:35

Tony Isabella

"I mean, it's not new for DC to have bigots and racists and sexists on its payroll, but Card is as vile as they come."

Right up there with dictators and serial killers. Wow. Just wow.

Here is another opinion on Card, posted by Harlan Ellison at this site on 31 July 2008:

“I have known Scott for many years. He has always treated me and my opinions with either a deferential silence, or respect. He has treated me as a gentleman, and I have never found him to be less than the same. We do not agree on quite a few matters. But that has never stopped Scott from doing me a solid when such became necessary. I have a plethora of personal friends whose views on topics for which I would go to the battlements in resistence, are anathema to me. The list of such pals is longer and more startling than any of you can imagine.”

Never met the man, myself.

Steve B
- Thursday, February 7 2013 13:16:17


Like da man said.

Steve Barber <Barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Thursday, February 7 2013 13:15:40


The first thing we were taught in Journalism school was "get the name right".

7 Against Chaos.

Let me repeat that.


Thank you.

- Thursday, February 7 2013 13:15:24

C'MON, FOLKS!!!!!!! You're makin' me crazy here!

The gag has gone viral and is now troublesome.

Whoever among you--hard to remember who--in all jackanappery and innocence, who thought it was amusing to conflate the titles of my two new books, has caused a brain-fart of epic proportions among those who might review and do me some good.

There are two separate books. One has nothing to do with the
other. The reissue of WEB OF THE CITY, my juvenile delinquency novel, my FIRST novel, is being done by Hard Case Crime, and the ARCs are out. It has nothing to do with the DC graphic novel HARLAN ELLISON's 7 AGAINST CHAOS, a 200-page original graphic novel I've been working on for ten years with Paul Chadwick and Ken Steacy.

Jan: go after Bobbie Chase at DC. She is our edior, and surely ought to be able to help you pr-wise. That's SEVEN AGAINST CHAOS.


Yr. Pal, Harlan

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Thursday, February 7 2013 13:13:22

DC Comics
Gee, has anyone informed GLADD, which has given several awards to DC Comics over the years, that DC has hired the venomously anti-gay Orson Scott Card to write some Superman stories? I mean, it's not new for DC to have bigots and racists and sexists on its payroll, but Card is as vile as they come.

Cologne - Thursday, February 7 2013 12:27:16

I have a review column as well and DC has been uncooperative with me too, Harlan.

CHAOS IN THE CITY sounds like it would benefit from being reviewed by me. You will get a special mention as the author, while ATC will only use it to further his own career. I have no career to further.

- Thursday, February 7 2013 12:23:33

I can't help but notice that everyone is now copping my title, SEVEN AGAINST THE CITY!

I thought the dazed n'confused were protected from stuff like this!

Adam-Troy Castro
- Thursday, February 7 2013 10:51:19

Seven Against The City
Hey, Harlan, I have been trying to connect with one of your new works for my review column for some time now, and SEVEN AGAINST THE CITY sounds ideal. But DC is only rarely cooperative in the sending of advance review copies. Can you put it in a word?

Jordan Owen <jordanowen@me.com>
Atlanta, Georgia - Thursday, February 7 2013 8:23:50

Judging a game by its cover...
Just dropping in to share a bizarre video I saw. Dr. Retro reviews the I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream computer game.... packaging!


At least he gave it a good review....

- Wednesday, February 6 2013 19:59:40

Compare and contrast
Great link Chuck Messer.
And now, compare and contrast the actions of the Nixon administration, and THEIR protracted war, with that of
the "Dubya"/Cheney Administration, and their spurious, Falsely Named, nearly equally-as-damaging War On Terror, which was also promulgated on a Bed of Lies.

Considering that so many in the "Dubya"/Cheney administration were "leftovers" from the Nixon regime, no one should have been surprised -- yet, many were.

History repeats itself. Especially in nations ruled by fear and ignorance.

Chuck Messer
- Wednesday, February 6 2013 18:9:3

Harlan Ellison has tried to tell the US just what a monster Nixon was. Now, a secret Walt Rostow memo has been declassified, showing what the Nixon campaign did to win in 1968. It may have been possible to end the war in 1968 or '69, but peace negotiations were sabotaged for the sake of a political campaign. Tens of thousands of American lives, hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese lives lost to win an election.

Here's the link: http://consortiumnews.com/2012/03/03/lbjs-x-file-on-nixons-treason/

Here's to all those who ended up on Nixon's enemies list. At least they tried to warn us. I like to think of the upcoming publication of WEB OF THE CITYY and SEVEN AGAINST CHAOS as lifetime vindication for Harlan, who risked the ire of the Ticktockmen back when it counted and is still here, muthafugga!


Sidelines, - Wednesday, February 6 2013 17:52:42

rob & dorman
I thought Rob was "making a funny", which it kinda was.

- Wednesday, February 6 2013 15:38:47

I AM in fact "doped"-up today - on cold medicine today. Dazed n'confused!

oz - Wednesday, February 6 2013 15:19:12

Cleaning up after Rob
ROB: The title -- in all it's glorious splendor, typed below, by your pal and mine, his ownself, -- is: _7 AGAINST CHAOS_.

Ya dope.


Cheers from oz,
P.S. Don't make me pick up behind you again.

- Wednesday, February 6 2013 14:35:20

...SEVEN AGAINST THE CITY...I want to look for that!


S. Perry:

Good information. Very useful. Thanks.

Kenneth Stevens <stevens.kenneth@gmail.com>
Knoxville, Tennessee - Wednesday, February 6 2013 14:15:42


"I think this would seriously stifle the ambitions of both students and teachers. Is that what school is supposed to do?"

To ask the question is to answer it.

- Wednesday, February 6 2013 13:54:42

Yesterday, two copies of the Advance Reading Copy (ARC) of Hard Case Crime's WEB OF THE CITY arrived, off-press date of 29 January 2013. Pub date 10 April 2013. Book looks just G R E A T ! Well worth the publication, in my shamefaced braggardly opinion.

Today arrived, sans cover or indicia, but complete otherwise, the pre-publication totality of SEVEN AGAINST CHAOS from DC, all 200 pages, ten years' work, Ellison/Chadwick/Steacy sweat and toil and love. It is stunning. Help spread the word, please. It is the dream fulfilled! The stack of pages huge-clipped emanate grandeur. Now if the tides of fate are strong, the capper of my last years wil get some notice, No one who even LOOKS AT IT should be less than astounded. Comics the way you used to love 'em! My breath has been tooken away!

If you're in the neighborhood, stop by to take a peek, Josh.

Yr. EXCITED pal, Harlan

JOE WEHRLE, JR. <wehrle1@verizon.net>
Punxsutawney, PA - Wednesday, February 6 2013 11:31:0

Adam-Troy Castro: By extension, why doesn't the Maryland school board just go ahead and try to seize all the money kids make from a paper route or babysitting, too? Or would they be ashamed to do that? It seems as though as though the students and teachers are to be subject to their authority 24 hours a day. And has any one of these boneheads ever tried to write a novel? It's incredibly hard, time-consuming work, even if the finished novel turns out to be lousy. Who wants to do that much work for free? I think this would seriously stifle the ambitions of both students and teachers. Is that what school is supposed to do?

Frank Church
- Wednesday, February 6 2013 10:17:9

Kudos and kisses to Governor Jerry Brown for not only balancing the budget but doing it by raising taxes and promising to fix the California college system which has been double-dutch-fucked for many decades, when it used to be free.

Proves once again that austerity is a bad word elites learn in evil college. Bad college.


Adam Troy Castro just shows how loopy our amended copyright laws are--laws that give the rich much more rights than smaller artists. When you take away limited monopoly rights it leads to corporate takeover of said law, making it an ugly cousin.

Debate on this subject is restricted to the forums, per Steve Barber law.

Paul A
Front Royal, VA - Wednesday, February 6 2013 10:0:55

ATC and the Maryland School Board
Adam's news on the Maryland School Board kinda got lost in the shuffle there, but I kinda maybe sorta wanna scream my fuckin' head off about that. I'm a teacher and a writer (not in Maryland, thank god), and I know of loads of creative students and this just makes the veins stand out on my brow. Think of the vileness of this action reminds me of a story I recently read (either from David Morrell or CNN; talk about disparity) mentioning the incredibly low average turn-out for school board elections. School boards are massively powerful (depending on the state, of course), and the unfortunate anonymity of them allows any kind of batshit-insane whackjob in.

Now I must go scream into my pillow. Thanks, Adam.

Janet Gamache
Victoria, BC - Tuesday, February 5 2013 19:27:53

Singing Flame
That which has beggared language
given voice/realized
at last:
a dictum defied
by the creator/creation
of a profound immediacy

“...it’s nice getting together with you like this,
if for no other reason
than to keep out the darkness
for just a few minutes longer.”
–Mr Harlan Ellison

and portal
(a conduit


Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.om>
MN, Minneapolis - Tuesday, February 5 2013 17:20:32

February 17

At the Last Bookstore in L.A. will be a sweet event.

Look for yourself:


Steve Barber <Barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Tuesday, February 5 2013 17:8:10

Confused, but Improving

Okay kids, close attention if you please.

I now have the special secret "Little Orphan Annie" access code and decoder ring for the Ellison News Service page.

JASON: Please send me a press releasy sort of thing about the below books.

SCOTT TIPTON: Same with you on your projects.

JAN: Please send me notes as you discover publications, etc..

I've volunteered to update (and keep whole) the news page, so gimme some fodder, y'all.

THIS IS IMPORTANT. Make sure you mark ELLISON NEWS in the subject - it catches my attention and makes it easier for me to spot updates.

Thank you.

I am near a major milestone on my blog page views (though Tony Isabella is still way far out ahead). Nearly five thousand individual page views in the last year, which is seriously cool.


Last night in Vegas. I'm sure there's a martini with my name on it.

Steve Perry <perry1966@comcast.net>
Beaverton, OR - Tuesday, February 5 2013 14:13:13

Speaking here as someone who has crossed over to the dark side, i.e., electronic publications, I can offer my experience, such that it is.

eBooks are what? Around twenty-five percent of sales? Climbed there from five or six percent, over that many years, and a long way from taking out treeware; still, it does add some change to some pockets.

First the cheap side of the story:

I got as many of my out-of-print titles into e-files as best I could, added some new covers, and put them up on various markets, the biggest of which is Amazon.com. Sales are not what you'd call overwhelming -- a few of this title, a few of that one, ranging on a given month between a couple to sixty or eighty copies. Not going to buy the Learjet with that income. But it does add up if you have a backlist, and the royalty rate ranges from 35% to 70% on Amazon.com, depending on which part of the world, and which deal you elect. So if you sell a novel for, say, $4.99, you can collect about $3.50 for each copy sold.

Consider: Say you have ten titles and you offer them for five bucks each. Average ten copies of each title a month, a hundred books total, just to keep the math simple. $350 in your account. If they can keep that going for a year? $4200.

I know a couple midlist writers who make three or four times that much on their backlist.

And here's the deal: It's free money. You don't have do anything but sit back and let them wire it to a bank account number, which you can limit to ebook sales only.

The trick is to get as many titles up as you can, since that seems to create more of a demand.

Now for the rich folk:

If you are a Big Name Writer and dealing with the major publishers, they will do all the ebookery as part of the deal. I ran some numbers when George R.R. Martin's most recent book was laid down. My estimate of his royalties was just that, I don't know his percentage, but just based on averages, and the cover prices? George made about eight hundred grand the first day, minimum. And while he sold sixty thousand more copies of the book in hardback than he did in the epub versions, he made more royalties from those, because they are higher to start. As did the book company. No returns, no shipping, no shelf space.

It's a brave new world, folks.


the Shadow
- Tuesday, February 5 2013 11:53:59

Doing a 180 -- My Mea Culpa
My meaculpa over my apparent senility regarding 180's involvement with CUTTER'S WORLD is hereby extended to Scott Davis. Mr. Davis stepped, months ago, in to point out that ONLY Edgeworks Abbey, making use of his fine editorial services, published the last two books (NONE OF THE ABOVE and ROUGH BEASTS) and I STILL forgot, and, like Pavlov's dog, ran with that bell.

Once more, for good measure: CUTTER'S WORLD (Edgeworks Abbey).

Also, the publication, ELIZABETH'S CANVAS, published via IDW and Jud & Scott's "Blastoff Comics", strictly for non-profit reasons (to benefit a good cause), can be pre-ordered here:


- Tuesday, February 5 2013 10:55:40

I feel duty-bound to assure y'all John E. got that right: WITH AN EDGE IN MY VOICE. In fact, all the FUTURE LIFE columns are reprinted in there. I actually have the original issues packed away, including the aforementioned and Harlan's poignant George Pal euology.



Please paste this address in your browser (Harlan); old drawing loosely inspired by TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE - 'The Searcher' - which I did a long time ago before I had any training. Had server trouble uploading it before.

This one just demonstrates where I came from.

I also have in there two blogs I wrote about THE PAINTED BRAIN (an art therapy workshop event we held months ago) - my intro to the magazine. Please scroll all the way down, as they were my earliest entries. Plus you get a fleeting tour of my diverse art on the way down. (Let's just call it my invitation to Hell)


An article I wrote for THE PAINTED BRAIN - and DID finally get paid for - is about to be printed.

Well, it's a start!


I'd like to know more about the book selling market for authors. Harlan, in the growing barrage of digital publishing - e-books, especially - have you and other reputable writers adjusted to the climate - where bookstores are dimishing - to continue your profits?

What I hate to see as a result of all this is the tsunami of bad amateur writing! It appears to vastly outstretch the presence of good professional work.

Let's see how THAT augments the illiteracy in this country.

Jason Davis
Burbank, California - Tuesday, February 5 2013 10:35:45

For the record, Publishing 180's involvement with ongoing Ellison titles from HarlanBooks.com ended with BRAIN MOVIES 2, SOUND OF A SCYTHE and HARLAN 101.

ROUGH BEASTS and NONE OF THE ABOVE were published by "Edgeworks Abbey in association with Jason Davis." The same will be true of CUTTER'S WORLD.

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Tuesday, February 5 2013 8:43:20

Just for fun

Thank you, driftglass, for the link to the pulp cover maker. Hours of fun for all the family!

Here's another time filler that some may enjoy:


John E. Williams
- Tuesday, February 5 2013 8:42:0

I feel duty-bound to point out that the FUTURE LIFE column referenced below by Rob appears more readily as Installment 3 (9 June 80) of AN EDGE IN MY VOICE. Mom says you're welcome to the chicken soup.

the Shadow
- Tuesday, February 5 2013 1:43:53

Forthcoming Harlan Ellison publications
Once again, scooping Jan -- but no one will notice, because I use a mask, er, scarf -- here is the next Harlan piece to see publication:


Then, of course, we all have to wait -- again!? -- until
April (!) for:
WEB OF THE CITY (Hardcase Crime)

and then, MAY (!!) for the hardback publications of:

and, then, JULY (!!!) for 7 AGAINST CHAOS (DC Comics).

And there's that Edgeworks Abbey/Publishing 180 book, CUTTER'S WORLD, coming out somewhere in the midst of all that, or just after.

Can't this guy write any FASTER!?!

drigftglass <driftghlass99@gmail.com>
Lincolnlandia, IL - Monday, February 4 2013 21:55:34

A fun pulp science fiction cover generator
just for goofs.


My best to one and all.

Chris Campbell <ilchriscampbell@gmail.com>
Maianbar, NSW - Monday, February 4 2013 19:7:24

Hello All,

I should start off by saying that I am not involved in this project in anyway and that if I am breaking any rules please feel free to delete, but I thought some of you might be interested.

There is a Kickstarter project called
"Cities in the Sky : Science Fiction's Forgotten Visionaries"
It looks like an interesting idea for a documentary.

If you want to take a look.


Thanks to our hosts and all of you wonderful Webderlanders.

Now I'll go back to work.


- Monday, February 4 2013 17:6:24

Whenever "Harlan's" Cimmaron Strip pops up in a conversation, I feel duty-bound to encourage everyone to visit Harlan's famous/infamous anecdote printed in the long-defunct FUTURE LIFE magazine from the 1980s. He vividly elaborates on what they did to his segment and the frustration it brought him as a writer as did so many experiences with tv before and after.

Jeff R.
Phila., - Monday, February 4 2013 13:45:35

For the Archives, Perhaps?
The latest issue of SHOCK CIMEMA, #43 to be exact, features a review of Harlan's CIMMARON STRIP segment, "Knife in the Darkness." Unforgivably, reviewer Kim Newman gives away the ending(!)... which I shall NOT do here.

oz - Monday, February 4 2013 11:11:42

Note to Frank Church
FRANK: Having help raise 22 dogs, and kept 8 of those myself, I happen to _know_ everyone -- including Harlan -- is absolutely wrong about the Pit bull breed (and that the _humans_ who own them, and the media that loves reporting only sensational stories, has turned the _dogs_ into villains). But I also remember Harlan saying, a few times -- on this board -- that he wasn't interested in hearing arguments.

When you do silly things like _this_ -- whether it be regarding animals (a pure-hearted effort, I agree), or politics -- it's hard to say you aren't merely looking for attention by stirring things up.

All best, otherwise, from oz,

Adam-Troy Castro
- Monday, February 4 2013 10:14:45

Evil Proposal From Maryland School Board

So, if this policy is voted in: if you're a talented artist currently attending high school and you sell your first painting, the school gets to claim your payment for it. In fact, if you're a high school science teacher and you write a novel in your spare time, it, too, belongs to the school. I cannot even begin to muster enough profanity to express my hatred for this evil proposal.


matthew dickinson <stalepie@outlook.com>
Oakwood, GA - Monday, February 4 2013 10:11:29

Movie recommendations and stuff
It's hard to talk to people now face-to-face -- they seem slower to think and respond, but if you communicate to them through the popular methods like Twitter or email or texting (phone) or Facebook, Youtube PMs, etc., they respond better, they think more intelligently in their response, because they have more practice this way; they're more accustomed to it. Often I notice people stammering like to respond to things in a way they don't when they can type it or link it to me online -- I think. Anyone else notice this?
Maybe I'm wrong and it's just me. I have poor communication skills.
I'm breaking in here like a burglar thru The Ninja Proxy (theninjaproxy.com) I was banned by HE or Rick Wyatt.
But I wanted to say a couple of other things: the movie Ninja Assasin (2009) is very good, by J. Michael Straczynski, which I think I remember Harlan Ellison being friends with thru Babylon 5 because I read an interview with him years ago, between them.
It has good photography though and it's intense. It's pretty violent.*
Anyway, another good movie is Hotel Transylvania. I'm scared to see what it received on Rotten Tomatoes; probably poor ratings. But the animation in it seemed brilliant. I need to finish it. I rented it through PlayStation 3 and I only got 15 hours or so before the timer is up... you get 24 hours to watch it.
That complaint reminded me of how you could, with video stores in the 80s and 90s, you usually could return it a day later (and usually got at least 2 days to begin with), and only had to pay half price or so for that extra day. Or you were charged by the day. But you have to pay full price to rent it again. I had rented Time Bandits -- which I'd seen before -- but off the Playstation Network store,
never mind, can't find the link. Google sucks. Or Sony sucks. Somebody sucks.

Anyway, Ninja Assasin is good, Hotel Transylvania is good. Also wanted to say that handguns are easier for a shrimp like the Sandy Hook shooter to use because they're smaller and easier to aim with -- I've heard he left the assault rifle in the car. You still have to hold it with both hands and stand with your feet apart a bit to be stable (I think?), but it's easier to run with and aim with (less recoil), so it's more effective at murdering or self-protecting.

*I remember also that it was like the first Blu-Ray I remember seeing for only 6 bucks or something at Wal-mart. I think I just bought it on a whim after reading on the back it had a Korean pop star starring in it. And I probably saw Straczynski's name, even though I can't spell it without looking it up. Like Januzc Kaminski... can you believe he did Spring Breakers? :) He does War Horse and then he does Spring Breakers..

Frank Church
- Monday, February 4 2013 10:7:51

Harlan, you may like this article, because it mentions pitbulls, which you have said you do not like:


Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Sunday, February 3 2013 20:3:52

Holy crap
They won.

Steve Barber <Barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Sunday, February 3 2013 18:21:33

In Vegas. With Ravens fans. GO RAVENS! (And next time pay more than half the power bill!)

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Sunday, February 3 2013 17:4:23

wait for it...
leggeded wimmin'.

Tim Raven

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Sunday, February 3 2013 17:0:59

Tim Raven - born in Baltimore City, Maryland

Honestly, I was a Baltimore Colts fan (Robert Irsey, I pissed on your grave) rather than a Ravens fan, but my kin are all having an anurasim over this Superbowl so I'm watching.

Edgar would proud, I toast him!


Heres to swimmin' with bo

Diane Bartels <dianebartels99 @comcast.net>
Merrionette Park, IL - Sunday, February 3 2013 14:37:13

I hate the Super Bowl. I hate Super Bowl Sunday, and everything it entails. I can't think of a larger waste of time, effort, intelligence, and copy space over such triviality. I have always felt this way. This is the one day of the year the cats and I can sleep all the way through and miss nary a thing of import. That's all.

Tom Morgan
Silverado, CA - Sunday, February 3 2013 14:35:0

Just wanted to mention that I am glad to see that this year the biggest spectacle in sports has a literary connection. Here are your hints:

Where did Edgar Allan Poe spend the last years of his life?

What city is home to the AFC team playing in the Super Bowl?(Hint: same city)

What is the name of that team?

What is the mascot of that team? (OK, trick question, there are actually 3 mascots. They are big and black and have wings, and their initials are E,A and P.)

A good day to all here, whether or not you give a wet fart about professional sports.

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Sunday, February 3 2013 13:6:40

For Ken, Mr 'Owes


What brought me here, that is specifically to the Pavilion, was the discovery that "Harlan has been known to visit", as it says somewhere at the top of the page. Very few famous folks have any direct involvement with their official website, so it was a shock to discover that Harlan did pop in from time to time.

I first realised there was a Harlan Ellison in the late 1970s when I saw his name in the credits of "Demon with a Glass Hand" on BBC2 late one night and decided to find out more. I discovered he wrote books, too. I was blown away by THE BEAST THAT SHOUTED LOVE AT THE HEART OF THE WORLD, and decided to track down the rest of his work.

I've done a small amount of writing about Harlan's work over the years, including a couple of conference papers. I came close to meeting HE at an event a couple of years ago (but ended up meeting his stand-in - Steve Barber! - when Harlan wasn't well enough to attend).

What about yourself, fellow Brit Mr 'Owes?

- Phil

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Sunday, February 3 2013 11:57:37

My email has been hacked. *bleh*


Rick <rick@rickwyatt.com>
- Sunday, February 3 2013 10:37:47

I appreciate everyone's patience (a few jackanapes excepted). It is difficult to censure someone for being cantankerous on a site practically dedicated to cantankerousness. I trust, however, that we are done with the present kerfuffle and I won't have to bring out the IRON BOOT OF DOOM. I think it's in the attic. I haven't used it in ages. It may have been eaten by mice.

As for my personal reaction, I am of the strong opinion that character is both tested and revealed by duress. Using provocation as an excuse to behave a certain way does little more than show people who you are in the dark. And when I see other human beings take joy in the misfortune or missteps of others, I am more than a little bit ashamed to be human.

I don't harbor any ill-feelings, but I do wish a few people would be nicer when they're in my house.

I also want to congratulate Steve Barber for surviving another year on this planet, no small feat these days.

JOE WEHRLE, JR. <wehrle1@verizon.net>
Punxsutawney, PA - Sunday, February 3 2013 9:44:41

KEN 'OWES- Are you opening a can of worms here? Actually, my life's pretty much an open book, no particular skeletons, born in Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania (reputed home of the weather-predicting groundhog), and I've hermited here most of my life, discovered comic strips at about the age of five and remain obsessed with them, attended Catholic school for TWELVE years, which inspired me to become a devout atheist, graduated from Indiana State College (now Indiana University of Pennsylvania), honed my illustrative skills and did spot illos for Galaxy and If science fiction magazines under Frederik Pohl until they were sold to another publisher, attended the first Clarion SF workshop the two weeks Fritz Leiber and Harlan Ellison were writers-in-residence, did cover illustrations for Mirage Press and Arkham House books, record covers for Lava MT., wrote and drew a fantasy-adventure weekly for the Menomonee Falls Gazette (Wisconsin) for 38 weeks, drew one comic story for Vampirella and wrote the script for another which Esteban Maroto beautifully illustrated, wrote and drew a Big Little Book just like the thick little tomes they used to publish in the 1940s (Harlan actually paid me cold cash for a copy!), sold a few SF stories, including one to a German anthology and one to an Australian magazine, did a stack of black and white portraits over the years and had a site for them, but I recently closed it down so I can devote my time to more color work and trying to finish some of the dozen or so comic ideas I have roughed out. I have one daughter, Jill, no grandchildren, and may never have any, although daughter and son-in-law are still hoping. I lost my beautiful wife Karen two and a half years ago, still trying to deal with that. When I color my beard, I drop about 20 years from my apparent age, so I do it!

Kevin Avery
Brooklyn, NY - Sunday, February 3 2013 9:13:57

How I Got Here
My first encounter with Harlan Ellison's writing was in early 1970, when I was twelve. That's when I first read "Rock God," in CREEPY #32. A few years later, I began catching his appearances on THE TOMORROW SHOW with the late, great Tom Snyder -- but by then I was a regular reader of Harlan's work.

I've had the pleasure of meeting him a few times over the years -- in Salt Lake City, Los Angeles, and New York -- and I'm very proud of the fact that he was kind enough to include my name among the acknowledgments in the first paperback edition of ANGRY CANDY (this in return for me catching a slight factual error on the opening page of the story "Stuffing").

So, there you go.

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.om>
Minneapolis, MN - Sunday, February 3 2013 8:52:6

all things Ellison

Nice story Mary. Thanks for that.

I read Harlan first in a library in the Jackson County Library in Maquoketa, Iowa in 1972. The story was "One Life, Furnished in Early Poverty." I went a-hunting that day with Harlan in mind, and had to scan a lot of tables of contents in a lot of anthologies before I fell upon (as I remember it) a Damon Knight edited ORBIT book.

That was a frabjous summer afternoon, yes.


Mary <hoffmann.mary1@gmail.com>
- Sunday, February 3 2013 8:12:41

Reply to Ken
How I got here is a love of all things Harlan Ellison. I started reading him when I was about twelve or so. I believe my introduction to him was through "The Hugo Winners" edited by Isaac Asimov. Ah, the day I read "Repent, Harlequin, said the Ticktockman" was a special one. I became acquainted with him through a special event at UCLA, and if memory serves,it was his birthday...finally got to meet him. Still see that day's events in my head...one of the best times of my life.

Thank you, Ken, for changing the course of this conversation back to our esteemed host. Trolls are such tiresome creatures, aren't they?

A belated Happy Birthday to Steve Barber...sounds like you had a wonderful time, and you deserve it :).

EU - Sunday, February 3 2013 7:32:3

Crimezine enters The Web of the City with Harlan Ellison

Josh Olson's favorite film discoveries of 2012

Rich, in case you don't notice, we're not your crowd. You need to find like-minded people who actually care about your opinions and find you funny in a good way.

rich <goldberglovesbarber>
- Sunday, February 3 2013 5:12:8

oh, the horror
I was going to reply to Mark's posting on the Comics Beat Off site, but thought I'd give everyone the vapors by posting here.

I post Collins' statement, which Barney basically asked for, and you guys immediately look for the fainting couch.

Honestly, I don't care one way or the other about Ellison and/or Kramer. Couldn't care less about Ellison apologizing or not. But I know how you guys operate and when Barney put all in, and Collins called his 'bluff', I knew he, or anyone else around here for that matter, wouldn't read it or post it.

So I did you guys a favor. Reaffirmed your world view for you, and gave you something to talk about on a Super Bowl weekend.

You're welcome.

Oh, by the way, Mark, your wife is thankful for the Boston pancake I gave her. I believe she even kept some of the syrup for later use.

Ken 'Owes <kenkennyrh@aol.com>
Sunderland, UK - Sunday, February 3 2013 3:59:0


Ooooh guys/gals. It's tough trying to be a useful member of this community when something kicks off and I haven't the first bleeding clue what the eff you folks are on about. Problem with trying to participate from afar, I suppose.

At times like this it's hard not to imagine that you are surreptitiously spying on the dealings of a secret society through a frosted glass window.

I'm guessing that a lot of you Pavilionites know each other and are far more familiar with the HE related shenanigans than I will ever be.

So-o-o-o-o-o, it got me thinking - and I dunno if this is protocol or cricket or whatever - how easier it might be if I got to know a few of the regular visitors around here.

Nothing fancy . . .just who y'are, why you come here, how you related to our host - that kinda stuff.

Is that cool ?? kosher ?? okeydoke ??

Takin' names, yer Colonial Cuz 'Owes.

the Shadow
- Sunday, February 3 2013 2:45:45

Floppy-eyed syndrome -- & the recent discussion about Ed Kramer
Regarding that syndrome, Shagin, you're in good company: in his recent memoir, JOSEPH ANTON, Salman Rushdie mentioned having HIS eyelids fixed, before he could no longer see.

Regarding the recent discussion centered around Ed Kramer and what looks like serious, but well-founded, charges of child molestation: I shouldn't have to remind everyone that it's a VERY SERIOUS subject. So perhaps instead of adding fuel to the fire, or lighting matches near the already serious conflagration (by saying this person or that person, anonymous and not, is a "troll", etc., etc.), perhaps EVERYONE should simply step back away from it all and let Mr. Ellison take care of the matter (it seems like any issue that has been brought up -- any issue, that is, which would or should be seen to, is most likely between Nancy Collins and Mr. Ellison. And I should add "if" there is an issue, since I wasn't on the phone, or in the middle of any discussion). As for the rest of it all -- anything Mr. Ellison did or did not say regarding Kramer, in past interviews or whatever -- it obviously doesn't matter anymore. It was said nearly a decade ago. Every and any person can be dead wrong about even the closest friend or lover. Dickens was right when, in A TALE OF TWO CITIES, he stated that each human is a profound mystery to every other human on the planet. You and I know that even if Mr. Ellison defended the man -- because he knew him, at the time, as a friend and colleague -- it doesn't mean he's either culpable or even guilty by association for trying to be a stand-up guy with the knowledge he had at hand. But for anyone who was literally involved with the matter -- as Nancy Collins says she and her son were -- the anger and the passion over the matter still burn white hot. And rightly so.

So how about we ALL step back, and not call anyone with a passionate interest in this matter any sort of a name, and let Harlan Ellison deal with it in the way he best sees fit.

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Sunday, February 3 2013 2:11:57

Neil Gaiman reposted about the best advice he'd ever received from an author, Harlan's take on shaving:



Took a nasty tumble on the front steps at a friend's house this evening, a disasterous happenstance of the motion sensitive front porch light turning off at the exact moment I gaused the placement of my right foot incorrectly and tumbled chin over knees down the remaining three steps. Scraped up, banged up, a couple loose teeth (a condition I hope is temporary). I panicked the friends ahead of me and behind me. Not that I felt any too stable after the fact, but there was no thing broken save for my skin and my pride.


During my less damaging time on teh treadmill this morning, I had the pleasure of listening to Harlan read "The Lingering Scent of Woodsmoke". Short, sweet, and beautiful.


Did you know there is such a thing as Floppy Eyelid Syndrome? Neither did I until last month.

It is more common in obese individuals and is associated with sleep apnea, leaking heart valves, and severe eye irritation. And I have those issues as well. I go in Wednesday to have my eyelids tightened (I keep picturing large spring keys on both eyes). I need to have this done before I can have my other cataract removed.

Y'know, I was in better health before I started taking care of myself. Oh, wait...


JOE WEHRLE, JR. <wehrle1@verizon.net>
Punxsutawney, PA - Saturday, February 2 2013 22:22:31

Jimmy- Thanks very much! I know you have a connection with the day, since you worked on the Groundhog movie. By the way, I have a few extra copies of this year's G-Day issue of the Punxs'y Hometown magazine, and if you would like one (free), send me your current address at my email. I'm going to be sending a bunch out anyway, and one might as well go your way if you would like!

Kenneth Stevens <stevens.kenneth@gmail.com>
Knoxville, Tennessee - Saturday, February 2 2013 22:1:47

Tim Lieder

You incorrectly used the term "pedophile."

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Saturday, February 2 2013 21:44:3

Groundhog Day
Before Feb 2nd gets completely away, I wanted to wish you (and all followers of Punxsutawny Phil) a Happy Groundhog's Day. Or in the least, hope you had a good one. But then again, since it is Groundhog's Day, there is a distinct possibility we'll all be doing it all again tomorrow. But I have decided Rich will not be included.


Chuck Messer <chuck_messer@hotmail.com>
Lakewood, Colorado - Saturday, February 2 2013 20:10:24

And Now for Something Completely Different:

Singing Zombies! Have fun, feel free to sing along!


(Hannibal Lecter Voice) Bon appetite. (Hannibal Lecter Voice)


Alamogordo, NM - Saturday, February 2 2013 19:59:26

As the saying goes, "The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on."

And sooner or later, trolls wind up back under their bridges.

Mark Goldberg <markabaddon@gmail.com>
Eagan, Minnesota - Saturday, February 2 2013 19:24:43

First, and most importantly, a belated happy birthday to my friend Steve Barber. It is rare pleasure to form a friendship with someone electronically, then meet and discover that he is more impressive in person.

As to these Ed Kramer accusations, my question is, why do you any of you care whether or not Harlan put up his house, defended someone accused of horrible crimes, or performed a Cleveland Steamer on Rich's ex-wife (which could explain his level of animosity towards Harlan; still waiting for you to show up at my door as you have threatened to do before, little Richie)

Here is what I know: Harlan has gone out of his way for me on a number of occasions both over the Internet and in person. He has, in short, been a complete mensch to me. That is how a judge a person, not on what I hear from second or third hand sources. This does not mean he is infallible, and I have disagreed with Harlan directly on various subjects, but on the whole he does much more good than harm.

Tim Lieder, in his attack posting around Kramer, states that it would not be the first time Harlan has been a disappointment. Sorry to be the one to tell you Mr. Lieder, but all of us are disappointments a pretty fair percentage of our time. I think it better to measure a person by the quality of their successes.

Postings like these almost make me wish for a diatribe from Frank about the wonders of Chomsky's bowel movements


Tim Lieder <omanlieder@yahoo.com>
New York, NY - Saturday, February 2 2013 17:42:13

Dragon Con and Ed Kramer
On a site for Ed Kramer made in 2004, Harlan Ellison is quoted as stating

"It's primordial. Gwinnett County behaves as if it's the 14th century, and it's the Spanish inquisition. They're treating Ed Kramer as if he's the Marquis De Sade for Chrissakes."

-- Harlan Ellison, a renowned novelist and close friend of Ed Kramer


In light of everything that has happened in the 12 years since the initial arrest including several articles that have turned out to be false, Ed Kramer's manipulation of the justice system including copping to bogus health problems to get out of jail, relaxation of even his house arrest and Kramer hiking around Connecticut to film a movie where he was caught with a 14 year old boy in his motel room, would it be prudent for Harlan Ellison to finally dissociate himself from a man that is a habitual pedophile in the same way that he should have dissociated himself in 2000?

Or will he continue to let the bullshit statement he made about Gwinnett (and did he go down to check for himself? most likely not) stand as his major statement in regard to the case? Although ironically enough the Marquis de Sade didn't fuck little boys.

KNowing Harlan, there will be a combination of chest thumping, counter-accusations and complete ignoring of the problem. Maybe an ad hominem or two to go along with it.

It's not the first time he's been a disappointment.

Robert Morales
New York City, New York - Saturday, February 2 2013 15:32:11

Sometimes I read the messages here and pretend they're all written by the same person. Keeps me on my toes.

- Saturday, February 2 2013 14:53:35


I believe some of the recent posts could be better described as Upper Deckers more than Cleveland Steamers.

Steve Perry <Perry1966@comcast.net>
Beaverton, OR - Saturday, February 2 2013 14:14:12

Any Lawyers in the House?
I am given to understand that you can sue for libel somebody who defames your pen name and injures your sales and/or reputation; however, you don't have grounds to sue somebody who insults a netnom, since that is not by definition a real person.

I mean, if somebody calls himself "PoofyBoy" and you say he's a child molester and offer his real name and he isn't such, that's libel. But as long as you don't say who Poofy is, you aren't libeling anybody, 'cause there ain't no such person.

Anybody know the case law on this?



Steve Barber <Barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Saturday, February 2 2013 13:55:26

To those of you who have not had the pleasure, Rich is a former intimate and denizen of Webderland who has some axes to grind.

Despite repeated assurances and promises to Rick Wyatt that he was done, gone, and would never return, we periodically see him express his moral outrage at something or other. He was one of a small group who turned this place upside down and ugly. So far, his is the only promised absence that has been compromised, the others from that embroglio have respectably held fast to their commitments.

Rich is happiest when telling others where they have moral failings. Rather, he is happiest when discovering someone else's flaws and reveling in mashing their noses in it.there are not two sides to the discussion, only what rich chooses as his position, and the "wrong" one. Pardon me, the morally inadequate one.

Knowing who the troll is doesn't distract from the behavior of one. Leave him alone and perhaps he will resume his life without us as a distraction.

Tim Derrick <t44s77@msn.com>
Imperial, CA - Saturday, February 2 2013 11:35:29

No Government Name,

Harlan Ellison can find you if he wants to. So be careful. Happy Groundhog Day, everyone!

rich <really?>
- Saturday, February 2 2013 11:32:28

You guys know who I am. I mean, one of the responses from Barber or Goldberg on that Comics Beat site indicates you guys know who I am.

Other than posting Collins' rebuttal, I was going to leave this alone, but...

It's interesting that after posting Collins' statement on this site, one of you (I guess that person wants to remain anonymous...funny how that works) posted: "rich is a ped himself, just ask his ex-wife"

Never let it be said you guys haven't learned the fine art of deflecting an argument by immediately going personal from the Old Man himself.

Of course, it could be that I'm a pedestrian. Right? Or does that anonymous poster mean pedophile? I don't think so 'cause that would be libelous.

C'mon, Rick. Let's play the libel game. Let's make this nasty. Nothing better than to make a name for myself by suing the guy that posted the insult, this site, and Ellison himself for allowing this kind of behavior to occur.

Seriously. Let's play. I guarantee you I can raise more money than you guys.

Steve Evil <evening_tsar@hotmail.com>
Toronto , Ontario - Saturday, February 2 2013 11:23:1

Spoken like a true troll. . .

No Government Name
- Saturday, February 2 2013 10:53:38

In response to Steve Perry's musing about why someone would post on this board anonymously, I will add one more reason: Harlan Ellison is famous for tracking down people who piss him off and firing off nasty, obscene phone calls to them. Don't believe me? Ask Nancy Collins. She is one of many victims of such long distance attacks from Harlan Ellison. Consequently, if one wishes to express an opinion that might put a hair across Harlan's ass, and one does not wish to be the subject of screamed obscenities, one might just choose to post anonymously. I suppose you could assert that one might choose not to post at all, but what fun would that be?

Mary <hoffmann.mary7@gmail.com>
- Saturday, February 2 2013 9:46:8

Certain Postings and other Things of Interest
I'm not too sure who "Rich" is, but to wake up to that rather nasty response to what I thought was a done deal was a bit much. Whoever you are, Anonymous, Rich, or whatever persona you happen to adopt, please remember you're in someone else's house. Harlan hardly needs me to defend him...on his own two feet and with an vocabulary that outweighs mine by thousands, he will have taken care of you quite nicely. But he's been a great guy to myself and others here on the Pavilion, and he deserves respect (which is why I'm speaking up.) So do the other posters here that pop in from time to time. That's why I'm giving my own two cents, poor as they are.

Now that I have that out of the way...

I discovered an Ellison story that I hadn't read yet. Shocker, I know, I thought I covered all my bases. But "Ernest and the Machine God" from "Deathbird Stories" was fantastic! One of those bits of reading that has such visual imagery that sears into your brain. Leo Dillon painted with brushes, Ellison painted with words. Selena, the goddess of manipulation meets her match in Ernest and gets paid in full...the way she goes through men like it doesn't even matter what the consequences are. The men suffer, she doesn't. She gets her own, however...and it's beautifully told. I really enjoyed that story...need to move on to his newer stuff, but I had to enter that gem in this morning.

Ended my post on a better note...don't like being that angry, but respect is a word little used these days.

William Sherman
Boxford, MA - Saturday, February 2 2013 8:37:5

Dear Mr. Ellison et al.:

Hello to all. Been away for a bit, but I'm back.


William Sherman
Boxford, MA

rich <youguysknowwhatitis.com>
- Saturday, February 2 2013 5:33:12

Hey, hey...been awhile. Everyone still jerking each other off?

A friend clued me into this, and it's nice to see a response to Ellison's press secretary's (is Barber on vacation?) statement on this Kramer thing.

From Nancy Collins:

"To publicly answer a couple of Mr. Dannelke’s questions:
Kramer received two bonds. He was granted one for house arrest in 2001, in which he appears to have put up the title to his own home. The second bond was in 2008 for 80K+ in cash, which is the one that allowed him to travel. He supposedly was handed back the title of his house, which he then supposedly sold (although there is some evidence it was foreclosed on in early 2012). I have no idea where that money came from.
Secondly, I used to be a friend of Harlan’s until he called me up in 2000, screaming obscenities, condemning me for daring to speak out against Kramer’s “lifestyle”, as he so charmingly put it. He did not seem interested in hearing about how Kramer was stalking my stepson and other children in my family. Take that for what you will."

You guys take care now.

Streaky T. Super-cat
- Saturday, February 2 2013 5:28:48

Barney: Before you get trapped in a causality loop, note that a check of my internet browsing history from last week suggests that 'Don' -- on the page you've already tracked down and posted upon -- seems to be the initial Web source for the collateral story I wondered about.

Barney Dannelke <dannelke@gmail.com>
Allentown, Pennsylvania - Friday, February 1 2013 21:57:37

The internet is all one thing.
I had a response to the newly minted anonymous poster "Streaky" all queued up when Harlan posted what he did. Since "Streaky" seemed to be referencing Don Murphy over on ComicsBeat with this charge I cross-posted Harlan's Very Clear Answer to this anonymous charge on the thread where Don and his anonymous source would be sure to see it. For the rest of this, you may reference my response over there.


As always, I have ZERO interest in any anonymous assertions. But if Don wants to cough up a real source or if "Hmmm" or "Streaky" or Nancy Collins wants to contact me directly regarding this kerfuffle - the email is right up there where it always is.

- Barney Dannelke

Steve Barber <barbergalleryverizon.net>
- Friday, February 1 2013 21:16:25

Pebbles and Ponds with Nary a Bondsman in Sight

Thank you for the kind wishes guys. Today was a good day -- even got a call from Michael Jackson to sing me happy birthday, which was the highlight.

Folks, I had the chance to make an observation today, though probably not to the person I ought to directed it. I made a comment on Facebook something like

"It occurs to me this day, that I have the coolest, bestest and most wonderful friends and family one could hope for. Thanks to every one a ya."

And I mean it. But it hit me later in the day that the sole reason every person on this board is here is because of Harlan. Not only coming here, but as reflected in the large number of coffees and dinners and escorting around town(s) and grabbing a quick snack I've done with a bunch of you, a large number of us have formed bonds and friendships outside of these hallowed walls and pursued friendships and relationships as a result of a simple connection made, somehow and in some way, by a connection with Harlan Ellison.

Neal Shusterman wrote
“When you drop a pebble into a pond, ripples spread out, changing all the water in the pool. The ripples hit the shore and rebound, bumping into one another, breaking each other apart. In some small way, the pond is never the same again.”

We're all a little ripple from the Ellisonian pebble.

And I just think that is so damned cool.

Robert Morales
New York City, New York - Friday, February 1 2013 20:32:33

(erases Harlan's name off list of people to hit up for bail money; it was in pencil, anyway...)

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.om>
Minneapolis, MN - Friday, February 1 2013 16:48:17

Harlan, you're more than a friend to more than a multitude.

This much we KNOW is true.


- Friday, February 1 2013 14:5:23


Not that it's anyone's business, but for the record--and all I have to say on the subject of Ed Kramer's legal difficulties--I have NEVER put up my house as collateral for someone's bail. No one. Not ever. For any reason. My assistance to Ed, on the basis of a long acquaintanceship, and in gratitude for many kindnesses shown by him, was to halp him obtain a good lawyer. Otherwise, I have had no contact with Ed Kramer, his defense, or this matter in a substantial number of years. But again, I NEVER put up my house to asist in this matter. Or any other. That ought to quash the "rumor" for all but the very dim and/or obstinate.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Brian Phillips
McDonough, GA - Friday, February 1 2013 10:0:5

Thank you, Joe and...
Happy Birthday, Steve Barber!

- Friday, February 1 2013 9:5:18

I'd like to keep those best birthday wishes heading Mr Barber's way. You are a scholar and a gentleman, sir. Happy Birthday!

John E. Williams
- Friday, February 1 2013 8:22:37

Happy Birthday Stephen Barber
An all-around good guy who is older than me.

Alamogordo, NM - Friday, February 1 2013 5:44:26

"Caves of Steel"
From what I've read, "Caves of Steel" is being made as a movie, not a TV series. And given that it's coming from the same studio that turned out "I, Robot", I'm not terribly optimistic about it.

Streaky the Super-cat
- Friday, February 1 2013 5:19:42

Barney: The Internet weirdness involving the Ed Kramer case + Harlan Ellison seems to center around a rumor that Harlan put up his house as collateral to secure Kramer's bail. This rumor seems to show up pretty much everywhere Kramer and Ellison get mentioned together.

JOE WEHRLE, JR. <wehrle1@verizon.net>
Punxsutawney, PA - Thursday, January 31 2013 18:51:22

Before this month is completely over- January marks the 150th birthday of Richard Felton Outcault, who is pretty much responsible for the comic strip as we know it, although, of course, sequential representation in some form has been around for ages. Outcault also recognized the value of familiar characters in advertising. "That's my dog Tige, he lives in a shoe!" I have a clipped ad from 1912, where the Buster Brown Hosiery Mill will send you a 36-page book of Buster Brown Sunday page reprints for 4 cents (to cover mailing). This book goes for 200 to 500 bucks now!

A prose poem for midwinter:

An ever-shifting pattern of falling snow drifts past the lighted windowpanes beneath the trees. Inside, I stand and stare for much too long, until, in snowfall, I see the forms and faces of the love now lost, the friends removed, and all the tattered hopes in disarray. But beyond the frost, perceived or just imagined, lies a faint, persistent glow of spring to come. And I know that distant season inches on, whether I disdain its promise or trust those verdant days will bring renewal. So, in mind's eye now, restlessly, I choose to take that first and faltering step across the snow toward warmth and hope, and there I seem to catch the barely-whispered scent of summer roses.

the Shadow
- Thursday, January 31 2013 17:38:27

P.S. regarding 7 Against Chaos by Ellison, Chadwick & Steacy
A Post Script Regarding 7 AGAINST CHAOS:

Just in case you boys and girls -- like moi -- intend to order early and often, here's the Amazon link to the book, due out in July, 2013 -- 200 pages worth!


the Shadow
- Thursday, January 31 2013 17:25:28

More New Ellison! And a Public Service Announcement
Lotsa thanks to Alejandro for the heads-up regarding more news of the imminent release of 7 AGAINST CHAOS, as well as the new Ellison interview. Can't wait to get my mitts on it, and CUTTER'S WORLD, of course.

In the meantime, now that the sideshow about pseudonyms has been sidelined -- a lot of alliteration -- here's more proof that those who use masks and such aren't necessarily any worse than the rest o' the crowd.
You public service announcement for the week (I don't know WHY they never told most of us guys who TRY to be good to women, and who have shacked up with more than one in the past few decades, about this a long time ago, but, there it is):


And the "key" lines from this article are:
"Couples in which women did all of the traditional female chores had sex 1.6 times more each month than couples in which men did all of those jobs. The more cooking and cleaning a husband did, the less sex the couple had; women's cooking and cleaning was linked with more sex."

You'll excuse me, now, while I go build a small house or two and see if the women come running.

EU - Thursday, January 31 2013 11:39:52

"Harlan SPEAKS!!!!"
Can it be true?

Justin <justinsluyter@gmail.com>
Evanston, IL - Thursday, January 31 2013 10:58:31

7 Against Chaos
Oh my god, I can't wait!!!!

Alejandro A. Riera
Chicago, Il - Thursday, January 31 2013 10:10:9

Foolish me
Forgot to add the amazing, unbelievable, Ken Stacey on the post below.

This editor regrets the omission.

Alejandro A. Riera
Chicago, Il - Thursday, January 31 2013 10:8:48

Harlan SPEAKS!!!!
We interrupt this discussion about the issue of anonimity to bring you late breaking news: Comic Book Resources has just posted an interview with our good host where he talks about his soon-to-be-published collaboration with Paul Chadwick, "7 Against Chaos":


We now return to our regular broadcast.

- Thursday, January 31 2013 9:28:20

The Theory of Anonymity:

Adding to Steve Perry's good reasons, there is also the multiple personality, whose mental faculties are not responsible for whatever comes our way! I've always found that one convenient myself!

Adding to the bad reasons, there is the advantage of saying whatever stupid-ass things you WANT to fart out here without friends or family or cross-town rivals knowing you're the cyber-village idiot!

steve Perry <perry1966@comcast.net>
Beaverton, OR - Wednesday, January 30 2013 17:1:24


There are reasons why somebody who drops round here might offer posts under a screen-nom.

1) They could be on the run, from the law, or a malignant spouse, or stalker, and would prefer not to give any clues that would allow them to be hunted down.

2) They could be be Somebody Famous who hides his or her identity to avoid fanboy drool or ire for having written or drawn or acted in something that would garner that kind of attention. We have a few folks like that, I expect, and I don't begrudge them that.

3) Um, well, actually, those two pretty much use up the good reasons I see. What tends to follow these devolves into folks who want to say some shit without having to deal with the consequences; or those who think their own names are boring and want a peppier one; or outright trolls with nothing better to do.

The internet being what it is, one cannot ever be sure that a name is real, or if it is, the person using it has that legal right; and that is a possibility even where folks get together face-to-face. However, in those instances, at least if somebody starts spewing bile, you can show them the door, and if they come back, see them and deny them entrance. Here? Change one's handle and rascal an email address, and they can start over with no one the wiser.

I wouldn't make Rick's job harder by requiring that posters use real names and email addresses, but I also think that those without good reason shouldn't post anonymously.


Andrew Laubacher
Buffalo, NY - Wednesday, January 30 2013 14:8:6

For the latest info, publications, and appearances.
I've noticed that the "News" page hasn't been updated since 2007. Nothing on recent books, recordings, or even Unca' Harlan's voice-over work on SCOOBY-DOO. I'm glad that this stuff at least gets covered here in the Pavilion.

Beautiful Northridge, CA - Wednesday, January 30 2013 12:8:3

I went to see Michael Haneke’s AMOUR the other day. Although I have not yet liked any of Haneke’s films, this one starred Emmanuelle Riva, which is good enough for me. I had always loved her in Alain Resnais’s HIROSHIMA MON AMOUR and especially in Jean-Pierre Melville’s LEON MORIN PETRE. Her French voice-overs in those early films are so incredible.

Anyway, Haneke’s AMOUR was okay. I don’t think it would have gotten all the attention had it not been for the legendary Emmanuelle Riva and her co-star. I found it underwhelming, and much too much was made of those pigeon scenes. However, I thought the closing scenes were done well. And there was a poignant scene earlier in the film that really got to me, both because of the music and the context in which it was used…It was Schubert’s Impromptu in G-flat Major, Op. 90, No. 3, one of my favorite piano pieces. That melody floating over those rippling arpeggios is extremely beautiful. My favorite of the modern recordings is the one by Alfred Brendel:


While I was at the theatre, I decided to also see 56 UP, which I liked. I have not seen all of the ‘Up’ series, but it seems in this installment the director’s presence and interviewing style was more intrusive. It seemed like he was trying hard to get them to make statements about class and politics more. It came off as rather forced. Once scene greatly moved me. It was the one where Nicholas returns to England with his American wife. They are standing in a graveyard, and he points to the headstone of his grandmother, who died when he was only 5. Suddenly, he breaks down and bursts into tears. It has been over 50 years since his grandmother’s death, yet he still greatly misses her.

When I got home, I was still in the mood to seeing a movie, so I finally sat down to watch the special edition DVD of MEATBALLS that came in the mail recently. Wow, what a great film! Just as wonderful and sweet as I had remembered. I laughed my ass off. It is still my favorite Bill Murray film (CADDYSHACK being a close second). Love Murray’s “It just doesn’t matter!” motivational speech. Also love the music—“Are You Ready for the Summer,” “The CIT Song,” even that stupid disco song called “Makin’ It” sung by David Naughton (who was the Dr Pepper guy, and who later starred in AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON wherein he got to do a sex scene with Jenny Agutter, lucky bastard). But the two most beautiful songs on the soundtrack are “Good Friend” sung by Mary MacGregor in her beautiful, clear voice; and “Moondust” – one of the most romantic songs I have ever heard – which was used as the theme for those two young camp counselors in love, and which was sung by Terry Black. (The lyrics of both these last two were done by Norman Gimbel, who also penned the lyrics to “Killing Me Softly,” after being inspired by Lori Liebermann’s poem about seeing Don McLean sing the heartbreaking “Empty Chairs” in concert.)

Ah, I was a kid once, and watching this film again on DVD took me back….

Adam-Troy Castro
- Wednesday, January 30 2013 11:47:9

Haven't piped up here for a while, albeit not out of disinterest. Just hello to all, best to all, I'll drop by again when it occurs to me. Hello, Harlan and Susan.

Tom Morgan
Silverado, CA - Wednesday, January 30 2013 8:14:26

Speaking of clarifications, I looked for information about a production of Caves of Steel and found a lot of announcements, but they date from September, 2011. I wonder if it is still being planned, or if they still even have the rights.

Also a belated thank you, Sandra, for sharing that feedback on your book.

Barney Dannelke <dannelke@gmail.com>
Allentown, Pennsylvania - Wednesday, January 30 2013 7:18:43

further clarifications
Tim Raven - the urban dictionary.com will clear that up for you sans graphic if you were seriously asking.

Don - ***To My Knowledge*** (please underscore that in your head) Harlan, when pressed on this sometime around 2003/4 said something mild to the effect of "innocent until proven guilty" which I took to be a grudgingly politic thing to say considering that he (and HUNDREDS of others) had been paid various sized nickels to attend that giant media shindig on two occasions. At the time this was originally blowing up one can at the very least say that Harlan spoke BEFORE Kramer had spent a decade evading anything like due process and a decade before Kramer decided to violate parole to spend time with a 14 year old boy in the woods and unsupervised in a motel room.

I know what a full-throated defense sounds like coming from Harlan and this didn't sound like that to me, even in 2003.

Harlan is VERY capable of defending himself and so I am done speaking for him here in any capacity. Mine is simply a side-line observation and I am weel aware of it. I only spoke up because I despise people wandering in here as "hmmm" and posting their gibberish. And because I felt differentiating between Keith (good guy) and Ed (parole violator at best) was important lest anybody for one second confuse the two.

- Barney Dannelke

John Pickett <johnp51157@live.com>
Gainesville, FL - Wednesday, January 30 2013 2:42:13

So Fox TV is planning a Series based on The Caves of Steel!?
Hmm There is hope for a "Foundation Trilogy" Movie yet!

Don Hilliard <dbhilliard@peak.org>
Bayshore, OR - Tuesday, January 29 2013 21:26:19

Tim - look it up. Or don't if you value your last meal.

(I tell you no lie - or in the traditional sailor's opening, "This ain't no shit" - a year or so ago, the research ship for which I handled major and minor maintenance needed repair or replacement to the food steamer in the galley. Said steamer was made under the brand name of 'Cleveland'. No manual or parts list onboard, so off I went to Google and...well...let's just say the actual company was at least #6 in the results.)

Barney - I assumed (and still do) that Our Host said something nice about Ed Kramer a decade ago at least, and that 'Hmmm' (with three 'm's) couldn't wait to twist his little knife. Otherwise, we agree.

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.comb>
Burbank, CA - Tuesday, January 29 2013 20:47:17

What's Cleveland Steamer?


Jordan Owen
- Tuesday, January 29 2013 19:44:19

Bad Luck Brian goes Ellison...
Just came across an HE relevant Bad Luck Brian:


Barney Dannelke <dannelke@gmail.com>
Allentown, Pennsylvania - Tuesday, January 29 2013 17:45:30

Dept. of 17 years of this irritating bullshit and counting
MOST days the fact that about 35% of the "content" of this board is posted by purely anonymous people wandering in here, leaving their Cleveland steamers and wandering out again for others to clean up or apologize for or wring their hands over or whatever, doesn't raise my blood pressure or my hackles. After 17 years I just have to say that Rick Wyatt and even Harlan must prefer it this way. So, as Harlan's people sometimes say, "let be."

But I thought I'd make one tiny point of clarification regarding the posting by someone referring to themselves as "Hmmm." - with three m's.

The "Kramer" that "Hmmm." refers to is almost certainly ED Kramer and not our regular poster, Keith Kramer and that "Hmmm's" remark was *probably* prompted by articles posted recently on comicsbeat and bleedingcool;



but for the best reportage on this whole travesty one really should read;

IN THE SHADOWS by Scott Henry
(also reprinted in LONGREADS)

and then ponder if AMERICAN JEWISH LIFE would still go out on a limb for this guy the way they chose to in 2004.

All of this setup is to say two things. The first is that all of this refers to ***ED KRAMER*** - who I don't believe has ever set foot in here - and not KEITH KRAMER, who is a regular poster here - and a stand up guy and all around good fellow. Unlike yours truly. The second and last thing is to say that if there is one thing I hate more than the anonymous snipe artists that Rick allows to infest this board like cyber-termites it's LAZY fucking snipe artists.

Sincerely - Barney Dannelke

- Monday, January 28 2013 16:45:21

So Kramer's looking more and more guilty for his molestation, eh? Vile.

the Shadow
- Monday, January 28 2013 16:39:20

Preparing for the End
After much consideration, I have to agree with James Levy's last few lines in his last post. End times are nigh (not decades or centuries away)! The barbarians are, indeed, at the gate! In fact, Mr. Levy, I think you should begin stocking up on water and food items. So go out and buy lots of bottled water and LOTS of Wonka bars!

Lamont Cranston
P.S. The rest o' youse guys should invest in bottled water companies -- I have the Wonka investment covered. :)

JOE WEHRLE, JR. <wehrle1@verizon.net>
Punxsutawney, PA - Monday, January 28 2013 15:40:39

Brian: That name "Branded" recalled to me an article by Charles Dickens, written after he visited America and was horrified by the practice of slavery. He recounted a newspaper advertisement by someone looking to recapture an escaped slave, and they said it would be easy to identify him, as the family had recently "branded" him with their name (USING A HOT IRON!). No wonder he ran away! I hope to hell they never caught him!
I read that a couple of states were trying to remove mention of slavery from their history books, as such facts might reflect poorly on the reputations of our founding fathers. So much for "the truth will set us free".

All best wishes to your brother. I think sometimes, if we get through these things, we tend to watch our health a little better, and live longer because of it. A college friend of mine survived an aortic rupture last year, and you can believe they're keeping track of his heart function!

Confused Guy
Susan, - Monday, January 28 2013 15:13:51

I just learned there is a remake of the 1979 Disney film The Black Hole in the (toilet) pipeline. It made me think back to the original, which came out when I was a kid, and has to be the strangest Disney movie ever made. Just wanted to ask a question: does anybody have a CLUE what the hell the ending was about, when they went through the black hole and they showed all this weird Bosch or Dante's Inferno-like imagery? What the HELL was the point of that? What sort of ending was that in a movie that veered bizarrely between child-pleasing robot shooting and metaphysics?

Curious as to your interpretations, if any of you have any. Thanks.

Jim <jrwsaranac@gmail.com>
Montclair, New Jersey - Monday, January 28 2013 11:13:10

New JJ Abrams project.
I beg forgiveness if this has already been mentioned here, however I am sure our fine host would be keenly interested in this.

News is out that FOX has officially ordered to pilot a futuristic new drama from JJ Abrams and former "Fringe" producer/showrunner J.H. Wyman. As-yet-untitled, the futuristic cop drama is set for a Fall 2013 debut. "an action-packed buddy cop drama wherein all LAPD officers are partnered with highly evolved human-like androids."

EU - Monday, January 28 2013 10:40:53

Web of the City mini-review

A short appreciation of Harlan by a reader

Harlan Ellison: Masters of Fantasy (1998)
Part 1 www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-KueIGzn1g
Part 2 www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KRBer6LXgs

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Monday, January 28 2013 7:57:44

Harlan and Al Capp
Harlan is mentioned - in his usual heroic role - in AL CAPP: A LIFE TO THE CONTRARY by Michael Schumacher and Denis Kitchen. I'm reading a review copy of the book, which I don't think goes on sale until next month. It's a terrific, scary, and sad biography. I'll be amazed if it doesn't get nominated for an Eisner Award.

James Levy <susjpl@hofstra.edu>
Syosset, New York - Monday, January 28 2013 5:53:52

Sound over Sight

Yes, it was Richard Roeper, not Leonard Maltin, who wrote that scathing review I alluded to yesterday. My mistake. I saw Roeper's name, but heard Maltin's voice as I read the piece, and the voice overwhelmed out the name.

I am not likely to succumb to NRA propaganda, but I am scared. Nothing new in that; Harlan wrote an excellent exposition of some of the issues that concern me in his introduction to Approaching Oblivion 35 years ago. Considering that we have likely hit Peak Oil, that the fresh water resources of the planet are stretched to the breaking point, and that some form of climate change is under way that will negatively impact the grain belts of both hemispheres, I reject the notion that my fears are unfounded.

Brian Phillips
McDonough, GA - Monday, January 28 2013 4:48:0

Thank you, Jimmy and Sandra and Genealogy
Thanks much to both of you for the kind words! They are a great comfort to me.

As for genealogy and publishing, being African-American and knowing something about history and the 3/5ths Compromise (One Af-Am= 3/5 of a White person), I say, PUBLISH! Publish like a fiend!

Looking up family trees is a dodgy proposition for us, sometimes. We were property to be traded, given new identities, some that were given because the owner of the plantation had the last name Calhoun, EVERYONE was named Calhoun. One of my late cousins was "Darryl", his folks called him "D.B." and legal documents gave him the middle name "Branded"; the theory being the local school "branded" him a member of a particular family. Oh, and they gave him the name "Dale" because they misheard him.

Finding family information becomes at turns, challenging and heartrending because of things like that.

For someone else that ran into a dead end, read this:


- Brian Phillips

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Sunday, January 27 2013 22:27:2

It's a Family Thing
My best hopes and wishes for your brother's recovery. I feel strongly that he will. I remember seeing the both of you at PINK'S a year ago. Harlan Ellison complemented him on being a "very handsome man". I always enjoy your posts and hope you find comfort here.

The thing about the census is they don't ask you what year you were born, they ask you how old you are. Or more precisely, they ask one person in the household how old everyone is. So there you go!


shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Sunday, January 27 2013 19:27:0

BRIAN: I will fist pump, pray, shout, cheer, do a happy dance, stand on my head, all in support of your brother.

Tell him he's not alone, and if you guys need anything drop them my email address.

Don't give up!


- Sunday, January 27 2013 19:1:21


In the words of that great aphorist, Willy Wonka...I had it backwards. The date on my mother's headstone is 1899; and the snippet of posting here has it as 1898; but as Dorman has put
it...what the fuck does it matter.

Yr. pal, Harlan

oz - Sunday, January 27 2013 17:54:27

Note to Harlan Regarding Online Geneology Info
HARLAN: Took a look info related to my own family, and there were a few discrepancies and loose ends there, as well. Not just for my grandfather, who seems to have alighted in the arms of a completely different family in Baja Oklahoma (with his "father" and his "mother" both listed as from Missouri and Tennessee, respectively); it was the same deal with my _father_, too. Discrepancies in age, in his case, with his death listing him as two years older; but since it was rumored that he lied about his age to be able to join the Seabees, that actually makes sense.

I kind of figure that between the people's natural inclination to sometimes "fudge" the truth, and the probability that some of the census takers either didn't, or couldn't (poor handwriting, etc.) record information correctly once they got back to an office, there are bound to be some mistakes in whatever is found in this online database (especially since it's a "translation" of a "translation").

All best to you and Susan from oz,

Brian Phillips
McDonough, GA - Sunday, January 27 2013 17:47:7

That's DANDY, Harlan, and...
Growing up in Rockland County, my brother and I had a name for the Journal News, "The Rockland Rag", but that is not what I came here to talk about.

I've told Harlan to his face and I'd tell any one of you: THE reason I read Harlan Ellison is because my brother read him first and recommended them to me. I'm just the guy that posts here, but trust me, when the deal goes down and you can hear a rat walking on cotton, it is he not me that has read more than I have. You hear the summation of two voices more times than no when I post.

So, the reason I have not posted lately is because my beloved brother Stephen, my hero in this world had a minor stroke. His speech, not his diction, his speech was affected. He sounds the same, but he...pauses for the right word. This happened December 9th. His birthday was December 4th, so we had a rather muted Christmas, to put it mildly.

I just got off the phone with his wife.

His speech has improved! I am a thankful and happier man tonight. I'll say, "Thank you, Lord" and all the rest of you can either join me or do a fist pump or whatever levitates your respective sea craft. Prayers and kind thoughts will be much appreciated for a complete recovery.

He is the dearest man in the world to me. He has been for many years.

Brian Phillips

- Sunday, January 27 2013 15:48:32


Tim and Diane:

In this case, don't sweat it. The 1940 census won't cause any whirlpools of concern. But something is wrong somewhence:

I'm looking at a photo of me crouched at my mother's tombstone, and the carving reads date of birth 1898. The snippet posted here has it 1899. Someone is significantly off by a year. but in truth it seems now, so vastly removed from consequence, un point le moot.

Either way, I'm not occluded by the posting.

Thank you for your concern. I thank you, my mother thanks you, etc.

Yr, Pal, Harlan

Tim Derrick <t44s77@msn.com>
Imperial, CA - Sunday, January 27 2013 15:39:31

To Jimmy and Le:
Thank you for the information! I haven't been to Dangerous Visions. But never getting to meet Harlan is all right. I pay for his books, and I get great stories. We're even.

- Sunday, January 27 2013 15:15:32

Has anyone here (Harlan too!) ever seen the 1963 film version of William Golding's LORD OF THE FLIES?

A British film made by a certain Peter Brook, who took an unnervingly unorthodox approach to the material by shooting 60 hours of kids (who were not professional actors, though 2 later became such, one being Nicholas Hammond) improvising their scenes and assembling the final 90-minute narrative in the editing room.

The final product is the eerie parable closing unfogettably on Ralph's face. During the first act, I feared the format would fail, feeling that the marooned kids were responding to their situation unconvingly. But - jeezus - this thing spiraled into a wonderfully disturbing nightmare.

I wound up liking it a lot!

I am embarrassed to admit, I didn't even know about this film! I never even read Golding's book!

I've no intention of visiting the 1990 remake, but I will definitely do so with the book and again with the original film.

- Sunday, January 27 2013 14:50:52

End-of-the-world-style Paranoia
Although I don't think James Levy -- in his post, below -- is the only one in the USA acting /reacting that way, it IS incredible, and rather sad, that so many Americans, from sea to shining sea, are so fearful day in and day out.

The NRA and others feed off that fear, and the ignorance which spawns it.


Frank Church
- Sunday, January 27 2013 13:42:17

Yea, I won't see Zero Dark Shitty. If I want to see torture I will ask that Barbara Boxer do a porn film.

At least Django Unchained doesn't blanch when showing the evils of slavery. At least whitey finally gets his.

The Master got screwed.


I have this thing called the Captain Beefheart rule. If you do not like at least two of his albums you are an artless hack.

Zappa as well.

Bob Ingersoll <Bingersoll@mindspring.com>
South Euclid, Ohio - Sunday, January 27 2013 13:37:2

Thanks Susan


The DVD and stipend for postage arrived yesterday. My thanks. And I'm glad I was able to help you in this small matter.


James Levy,

Unless both reviewers used the exact same line in their reviews for MOVIE 43, the line you quotes wasn't from a Leonard Maltin review. It was from Richard Roper's review which he did for Roger Ebert. Here's a link to Roper's review.


I'm not sure Maltin has reviewed this movie. I couldn't find a review of it by him of it at Rotten Tomatoes dot com or anywhere else online.

Joe Madden <joemadden@live.ca>
Toronto, Ontario - Sunday, January 27 2013 13:23:21

The year of the propaganda film...
I saw Zero Dark Thirty yesterday. Besides being a poorly written, blandly directed television movie, it is one of the most blatant pieces of propaganda I've seen in a long time. I understand the need for a certain portion of the populace to remind themselves of how great their country is(The States, like Canada, is full of monkeys to whom "thought" is a foreign word), but this movie is incredible. Jessica Chastain stars as Lady Liberty or as I've dubbed the movie; Charlie Brown's Little Red Haired Girl Saves America. At least Team America: World Police had the decency to be satire. Costa Gravas is laughing his ass off.

I miss Stanley Kubrick.

Speaking of propaganda, Affleck's great lie, "Argo", won the PGA award for best film, virtually guaranteeing it the Best Picture Oscar.

A certain portion of the film industry has moved from the CIA is an evil, faceless conglomerate of ex-Nazis that foments terror in developing nations to the CIA is our friend?

Scary times indeed.

James Levy <susjpl@hofstra.edu>
Syosset, New York - Sunday, January 27 2013 10:31:23

"You're just reading about my pain."

Poor Leonard Maltin, good friend of Our Host who was recently, I believe, ill, has written a wailing indictment of the new film "Movie 43". In part, he writes: "Stay with me, please. I had to sit through it. You're just reading about my pain." The film sounds like a long exercise is banality, cruelty, and the hilariousness of other people's degradation, and humiliation.

Was Harlan right? Are we, like the people in "Knox", being prepared for something? Do the people in charge know that the system is failing, that we're in for a Dark Age, and so we are being pre-programmed for the Mad Max existence to come? I'm not shitting here--I mean it. I think that the Power Elite are buying up their "ranches" in Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming and slashing the social safety net, and looting society (you know, all that exploding income inequality) because the writing is on the wall.

I am a product of Enlightenment civilization and not well suited to the world I see coming. Sure, I can fight for survival pretty intelligently and perhaps effectively, but I don't want to live in a world that is a war of all against all (well, except for the people with their own private security forces, but they will be the Barons of that brave new world). Perhaps at 48, I'll only live to see it begin. Perhaps it won't happen, but that sounds hollow as I write it. Do others here have that same sinking feeling?

Beautiful Northridge, CA - Sunday, January 27 2013 0:55:36

To: Tim Derrick

Sorry you did not get to meet Harlan Ellison at The Change of Hobbit Bookstore when you went.

Yeah, as Jimmy hinted, he was more associated with Dangerous Visions. In fact, that is where I met him for the first time -- completely by chance back in February of 1985. I was got lost on Ventura Blvd one night after 7, so I decided to stop somewhere to ask for directions. I walked by the bookstore, and there he was chatting with the staff there. After getting directions to where I needed to be, I bought a paperback copy of SHATTERDAY (the cover shows Mr. Ellison talking on the phone which has become a cobra snake). He was really kind to me and signed it on the title page for me.

Interestingly, I guess there was some rift between the owners of A Change of Hobbit Bookstore at some point. I remember for a while on the Hour 25 radio show, he would only promote events of Dangerous Visions, but not those of a A Change of Hobbit.



I am enjoying the new album by the great Austin-based instrumental rock band, Explosions in the Sky. There is a fantastic music video of the track called "Postcard from 1952," which I am pretty sure was inspired by THE TREE OF LIFE by Terrence Malick (also an Austinite). I love the amazing cinematography/videography of this music video, not to mention the beautiful music. (There is a great video of the band performing it live, too.)


Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
Saugerties, New York U.S.A. - Saturday, January 26 2013 23:22:35

How come you don't just get that it is wrong?
Sometimes if I don't know the answer I think of the person closest to Harlan and ask what would they say to me if I do this? Will they smile or want to rip my throat out. If it were my husband you would have no throat.How simple is that?

CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Saturday, January 26 2013 19:43:14

Response to Tim Derrick
Did you try Dangerous Visions?

Diane Bartels <dianebartels99 @comcast.net>
Merrionette Park, IL - Saturday, January 26 2013 16:30:37

Barry, what you choose to broadcast about you and your family is exactly that: your choice. I think HE should have been allowed to choose whether or not his info was broadcast in so public a format. That is all I am saying and pretty much all I am going to say about this topic. God bless and be well.

Tim Derrick <t44s77@msn.com>
Imperial, CA - Saturday, January 26 2013 16:0:21

A Change of Hobbit
I was visiting a friend in the early 1980s who lived in L.A. I said, "Let's go to A Change of Hobbit Bookstore, maybe Harlan Ellison is there." He wasn't. I was disappointed.

Barry Noonan <noonanbarry@hotmail.com>
Madison, WI - Saturday, January 26 2013 15:44:53

Census matters
Tim Raven and Diane Bartels -

I understand that privacy concerns loom large in our age. And genealogists are perhaps more sensitive to these than most.

But applying 21st-century sensibilities to a record (a PUBLIC record) from 1940 is surely misguided. The people listed in the 1940 census are mostly deceased, and were living in families which as such no longer exist. The document is now of interest only to historians and genealogists.

In the late 1970s many of those same researchers were clamoring for the release of the 1900 census. It was realized that no rule existed about such a release: some in the government wanted to keep the censuses confidential forever. But eventually a rule was hashed out that after 72 years there could be no harm in making the information public - and this rule has obtained ever since. If government attorneys (not I imagine a group in favor of the indiscriminate release of information) agreed to such a rule, there can be no objection to it today. And though I have had my ear to the ground genealogy-wise since that time, I know of no harm, or even annoyance, that has come to anyone from the release of census schedules.

I emphasize that I have not employed any special privilege here: any mope with sufficient wit to use a computer can look up anyone who lived in the U.S. in 1940, be it Franklin Roosevelt, Harlan Ellison, or their wacky Uncle Chester.

If it be argued that no one asked me to look up Mr. Ellison, I readily concur - implicit in which concurrence is that no one has to care about the matter either.

Clipping Service (may I call you Clipping?) -

You have divined the reasons behind my initial posting with much accuracy. I would only add that, in my experience, showing people their own census listings has brought much joy along with a certain wistful nostalgia, and that seeing the neighbors' names adds to the experience. And, yes, Serita (Rosenthal) Ellison was born 1898 May 18 in Bethnal Green, London, England, of Russian-born parents.

Jerry Seward <thinman@journalist.com>
Saginaw, MI - Saturday, January 26 2013 9:28:42

Just wanted to share a project I've been working with actor Jason Carter on - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xll9QhncMA

Keep in mind that it's an extremely rough promotional piece. If we ever get an opportunity to do a full-fledged ninety minutes, we'll have a better scripted story. This promo was filmed entirely in an old factory in the heart of Detroit and it was just being converted into space for offices.

For me, the fact that I've been able to work with an actor I've been a fan of growing up (even calling him a friend) is its own personal success.


Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Saturday, January 26 2013 6:47:35

Ellison Wonderland and PS Publishing
From UK publisher PS Publishing's latest newsletter:

"...Just time for some last-minute news of some new projects and one reinstated one. The reinstated one first.

I got a phone call from Harlan Ellison a few days ago to say that he’s completed the proofs of Ellison Wonderland and so it’s now officially back in pre-production. Then, just last night (Thursday as I write this), he called again to say that he and Susan (Mrs. E) have identified several uncollected (and, in a couple instances, I believe, even unpublished) stories from that time that they’re sending across. Just how we’ll treat the extra material remains to be decided, but it’s safe to say we’re very excited."

Their website: http://tinyurl.com/bjpdmwh

- Saturday, January 26 2013 3:35:37

I'm beginning to believe most Republican politicians are like cockroaches -- they always find a way to survive pest control.


Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Saturday, January 26 2013 0:41:36

The Laundry Agreement

In the early nineties, freshly married, my ex-wife and I leased an apartment in Reisterstown, Maryland. The rent was cheap.

The laundry room was located in the sub-basement. Carrying your dirty clothes, you would spiral down and down the damp crusty concrete steps until you reached the Room. Five washers and five dryers. Coin operated. The illumination was always sketchy down there, day or night.

I would put a load into the wash and return at the appropriate time to pitch my wash into a dryer, thrusting my quarters into that change drawer thing.

Sometimes I would arrive to switch my wash and I would find my wet things removed from my washer and dumped onto the top of one of the other dryers. Someone decided that they really needed to use my washer, as well as all of the other four washers.

I would look at the pile of my wet things sitting on the top of that dirty dryer and have a moment of anger. I’d pick up one of my socks that fell to the damp moldy fucking floor.

And experience a moment that was memorable.

Did they do something illegal?
Was it a really big deal?
Was it careless and rude?


The laundry agreement was violated.

I gather my dirty laundry and somehow turn it into clean folded clothes. You do the same. Don’t you fucking touch MY laundry you son of a bitch. We both supervise our personal procedures in silence in the dark sub-basement.

Violating this agreement is just another sharp shallow knife thrust to my thigh. Not enough to bleed me out but it hurts and goddammit it will heal slowly. One of many small cuts that we are forced to tolerate in life.

Kenneth Stevens – was I disturbed with what the Journal News did? Yeah, they violated the laundry agreement.

Barry Noonan, I’m sure you were being a fan with a big heart, but I think you violated the laundry agreement too.

I thought about this for the last few days and it turns out that I can put my finger on it after all.
Guess I’m smarter than I thought, motherfuckers.

Tim Raven

p.s. that apartment was the first time I met real Russians….Immigrant Communist Block folks after the wall fell down….they were always borrowing my jumper cables during that bad icy winter in ’94. The Dad across the hall would knock on my door at 6:30 AM. “Do you have kabulls?”.


Kabulls. No charge in, no baddtry…”

And I would say “Oh Yeah, I have kabulls, chief….”

Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Friday, January 25 2013 20:39:6

Harlan mention
Harlan mentioned in this article about Ron Moore's new TV show:


Frank Church
- Friday, January 25 2013 12:53:28

I know the gerrymandering by one end of the business party is a concern, but the ultimate gerrymander of the entire country by corporate America is far worse. Not only do they run the show they want to own our souls.

This is why I support the commons. More space to keep them away.

- Friday, January 25 2013 9:54:28

Speaking of whims and fancies, I hope (though I wonder hope optimistic I should feel) that they do something about gerrymandering. The only reason we still deal with corrupt "strip the people of everything and who cares what the 70% want" right-wingers holding the house is because of redistricting. Democratic votes outnumbered the Repubs in those regions yet they won more seats. Another way to cheat us of our votes.

I hate this electoral college system.

But at least the women finally attained equal opportunities in the military.


Interesting that I originally grew up in Jersey very close to the Trenton battle grounds of George Washington.


Anybody read about NASA's burgeoning technology to capture and haul small asteroids into the moon's orbit for studying, mining, and future spacecraft launch points? They think it can be done by 2025.

- Friday, January 25 2013 0:13:45

The 1940 Census Online
I believe many of our (US) ancestry factoids (real or fabricated) are out there.
Whadaya gonna do?
This has coincidently come up recently (on January 1st) in my life. I like what I see in my paternal grandpa's neighborhood (he claimed to be one of these), regarding the following:

occupation : industry

investigator : hotels
porter : tavern
messenger : dental lab
carpet cutter : carpet warehouse
welder: railroad
postman : U.S. Mail
stenographer : mortgage office
machinist : hardware
engineer : dept. of surveying
chauffeur : private home
stockroom clerk : electrical goods

Not one cubicle worker in there!

Kenneth Stevens <stevens.kenneth@gmail.com>
Knoxville, Tennessee - Thursday, January 24 2013 19:48:57

Diane, Tim

Were you similarly disturbed by what the Journal News in White Plains did?

Clipping Service
- Thursday, January 24 2013 18:59:33

I, for one, would NOT be pissed....but I would wonder about Harlan (ds) Mom, being born in ENGLAND? Say WHAT? And the neighbors? I would expect they would jog memories from our esteemed host, both pleasant (one hopes) and unpleasant (one expects, and sighs in sympathy).

But 45 dollars a month in rent?

In any event, I applaud such due dilligence from any good intentioned fellow Deco-ites, along with anyone who cares to examine the public record that throws ANY light on a most distingished life.

But that is just me. Our host's miles may -- and probably will -- vary.

Diane Bartels <dianebartels99 @comcast.net>
Merrionette Park, IL - Thursday, January 24 2013 18:6:58

I agree with you Tim. I would be mad too.

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Thursday, January 24 2013 17:56:24

I can't quite put my finger on it, but I'd be pissed if someone published that personal info without permission. Public records, yeah, but it still comess off as an intrusion.


Barry Noonan <noonanbarry@hotmail.com>
Madison, Wisconsin - Thursday, January 24 2013 17:31:24

Ellison in 1940 Census
After reading the "Glass Teat" books for the umpteenth time, I wondered (as I am a genealogist and wonder about such things) whether I could find Mr, Ellison in the 1940 census (released last April). Well, I found him - and the information provided is epitomized below.

Painesville, Ohio, ward 3, 89 Harmon Avenue, house rented for $45/mo

Louis L. Ellison, age 44, post-collegiate education, born Pennsylvania, manager r(etail) jewelry, made $2500 in the previous year.
Saerita (sic) Ellison, age 40, 2 years of high school, born England.
Beverly Ellison, aged 13, completed 7th grade, born Ohio.
Harland (sic) Ellison, aged 5, born Ohio, no schooling completed yet.

The family had moved from Cleveland since 1935.

Neighbors: at 83 Harmon Avenue, Agnes Bitzer (43) and Ruth Grant (44), both single and born in Ohio; Agnes was manager of a retail furniture store.
At 97 Harmon Avenue, Charles (33, born Nebraska, a chemical plant sales engineer) and Bessie (33, born Illinois) Blackster, and his nephews Hornsby (13) and Jack (10) Wendt, both born Illinois.

To see the original census page go to familysearch . org, click on "United States," scroll (way) down to "United States Census, 1940" and search for "Harland Ellison."

oz - Thursday, January 24 2013 12:59:35

A reply to Ken O.
Hey KEN O: NOT that I've worked with a lot of publishers -- as has Harlan, f'rinstance -- but the few times I have, and the things I've sussed by listening and keeping my ear to the tracks make me believe that it all boils down to something very simple.

You _can't_ try to guess/forecast/figure out what the majority of publishers, or a particular publisher, wants. That's like to trying to figure out what the popular trend is in music or painting or films or...literature, and then hurrying to emulate it. The BEST thing you can do is write what moves/interests/obsesses you completely, and then try to market it; better yet, try to get an AGENT to market it, 'cause that is their job (in fact, while the story of Harlan discovering Dan Simmons is often thought of as quaint -- because Simmons sold a couple of short stories about the same time as Harlan gave him the peptalk, and got him to enter a magazine contest -- it isn't, because Harlan introduced Simmons to his agent, Richard Curtis. And ANY writer can tell you how important a good, or great, agent is to a successful career).

So, in my (admittedly not _that_ experience opinion): You need to write what moves _you_. _Then_ market it yourself (you can pick up a Writer's Market book via Amazon), and/or start hunting for Agents. Trying to figure out what Publishers (or Producers, or magazine editors, or the public) wants at any given moment -- to maybe get ahead of the pack -- is a mug's game.

Cheers from Oz,

Ken 'Owes <kenkennyrh@aol.com>
Sunderland, UK - Thursday, January 24 2013 12:15:13


Whilst the "Where do you get your ideas" discussion was very enlightening, one question that has always been in the forefront of my mind - and this is one for you pro writers, published or aspiring - is "How the hell do you know what publishers want this week ?"

I've read various book prefaces and articles that cast some light on the plight of the virgin writer and they all seem to focus on the inflexibility and intransigence of publishers and editors - particularly in the face of unconventional or (perish the thought) experimental writing.

So . . .how do ya ???

Fizzical and quizzical, Yer china 'Owes.

Frank Church
- Thursday, January 24 2013 11:3:7

Jello Biafra, talking about when he ran for mayor of San Fran. Lotsa fun:



Also, a great one on guns in school:


Chris Beckett <christopher.m.beckett@hotmail.com>
Hampden, Maine - Thursday, January 24 2013 9:57:1

re: David Mitchell
@the Shadow,

I agree. Mitchell is the real deal. I read his first novel, Ghostwritten, which was a collection of short stories that he tied together magnificently at the end to form a single, surreal narrative. It was a book that - similar to your experience with Cloud Atlas - just grabbed me and would not let go.

Currently I'm reading his latest novel, The Thousand Autumns of Jacob de Zoet, and though it did not hook me immediately, after reading the first few chapters, it too has gotten its claws into me and I'm always anxious to know what happens next. Set in 18th century Japan and revolving around a group of workers for the Dutch East India Company, it is a fascinating book that - again, as you stated - feels so genuine and historically accurate that I become immersed in the scenes. Really great stuff.


Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
Saugerties, New York U.S.A. - Thursday, January 24 2013 1:59:38

Cosmic Flaw
When my daughter called from university to say she had a plan and was happy. She and her room-mate would have one last party and drive her car into a cement embankment. Problem solved. I wished I had raised her with something that night. I gave her me. I drove down at 1:00 a.m.to the place showed up in her room sat on her bed and declared I was there to take her home to a mental ward. Or she could come home and see a shrink of her own free will. You see she is smarter then I am. Lots of I.Q. but I am a street kid and asleep she is dumber then a box of rocks. Thank God. Close one. She lived to find her way out of the woods. My brother did not.

Answering Service
- Wednesday, January 23 2013 21:55:33

Answering Service at your...service
Q: Where Does Talent Come From?
A: The Republic of Latvia, from a little shop -- where they hand- carve talent glands out of old pig carcasses, because only their skind and organs will "take" during transplant -- near the sleepy little township of Ikidunotsky.

It used to come from Schenectady, but the Idea people started clamoring for more space.

Jim Hess
Colorado - Wednesday, January 23 2013 19:38:26

Music - Stevie Ray Vaughan and DoubleTrouble
Intruding for a moment, because it seems appropriate (kinda sorta): I am listening to Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble work their way through early recordings of "Slide Thing", "All Your Love I Miss Loving", "Pride And Joy", "Texas Flood"(which is incredibly raw) and a first take of "Mary Had A Little Lamb while otherwise reading a massive tome by Harold Bloom (I may end up with an artistic/intellectual hangover in the morning - but it'll be worth it), and want to ask those far more intelligent than me: Where does talent come? Does it have origins or is it. . . just there?

the Shadow
- Wednesday, January 23 2013 18:20:9

Good Reads, Pt. 112 -- and a few worthwhile shows
Finished CLOUD ATLAS and I'd say it definitely earned it's Modern Library hardcover republication. Said it before, but it bears repeating: I read about 3 or 4 books at a time, unless one grabs me by the ears and demands my undivided attention: CLOUD ATLAS did just that. It's so good, I've decided to hunt down Mitchell's four other novels. Not many latter-day writers impress me that much -- Mr. Ellison, of course, Martin Cruz Smith, Philip Roth, John Irving, Anne Tyler, Michael Chabon, Neil Gaiman, Kelly Link... a few more handfuls -- but not all that many.

Each of the chapters is literally a different story: the first -- written in a surprisingly realistic, 19th century style -- is an historical drama, told in first person, epistolary-style. The second chapter, also in epistolary form, set in the '30s, is a romance narrated by rakish musician who charms just about everyone, but the romance isn't standard Harlequin material. The third chapter is a mystery set in the '70s, involving nuclear power and seriously dangerous thugs, narrated in third person. The fourth chapter, first person again, set in the early 2000s, is a comical farce, laugh-out-loud-funny, in fact -- except for those creepy/scary parts involving whippings and threats from deranged women. The fifth, "An Orison of Somni-451", set in the far future, is the transcript of the trial of an artificial being. And the sixth chapter, first person, is set after an apocalyptic event.

Then the chapters/stories reverse, starting with "An Orison..," and working back down to what was originally the first chapter/story, set in the 19th century. Each of the separate stories is, of course, connected -- in small or large way -- to the other, so that while each separate story is, indeed, quite astonishing -- and astonishingly well-written -- the novel, as a whole, is even greater.

When considering just the construction of the book -- six different stories! In six different modes of story-telling; or genres and sub-genres! -- that is a heck of feat! But when considering that the author managed the stylistic construction AND told a cracking good story, I confess to being duly impressed.

For those who prefer some sort of genre connection in their "mainstream" fiction, Mitchell -- who is obviously well aware of the SF and fantasy genres -- has a famous old composer write something called "Der Todtenvogel" (The Deathbird), names the protagonist of his third chapter Luisa Rey, a freelance writer and daughter of the world-renown writer, Lester Rey... and so on.
At one point, the old guy narrating the farcical chapter, says:
"The Undead of Aurora House watched me through the wall of glass.
'Soylent Green is made of people!' I mocked their hollow stares. 'Soylent Green is made of people!' The looked puzzled -- I am, alas, the Last of My Tribe."

Hey, it had me smiling.

Plus, there are great throw-aways like having a nuclear plant which might be leaking radiation located in Buenos Yerba, CA (Yorba Linda, anyone?). A couple of characters even comment on the nastiness of the city.

CLOUD ATLAS: if you already read the book, you'll know what I'm talking about. If not, pick up a copy. It's a keeper!

And if you've a hankerin' for some good crime fiction-related shows to watch on the "telly"/DVD, check out "Justified", based on the writings of Elmore Leonard -- even the third season, which was shaky, was better than most crime fiction TV. Or "Hit & Miss", which, sadly, wasn't renewed in England, even though it seemed to be getting its feet (it's about a transsexual hit woman who finds out she has a son, and some family obligations, and it starred Chloe Sevigny). Also, while it doesn't break a whole lot of new ground, "Touchback" -- which apparently went straight to video -- and travels down a path that will be familiar to genre mavens, it does so in a mostly entertaining way. A semi-no-brainer with a lot of heart -- and that's largely due to Kurt Russell.

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.om>
Minneapolis, MN - Wednesday, January 23 2013 10:13:0


Some webderpoet should start a poetry thread over yonder in the Annex.

I'll READ your poetry here, but here isn't the best place for discussion. I'd DISCUSS it there.

And IknowIknowIknow you want Harlan to see it. But I hope everything you post here is also sent to an editor somewhere else. I hope.

Go start a thread, Fred.


- Wednesday, January 23 2013 9:51:18

Harlan, you are, as always, the Batman to my Robin!

Frank Church
- Wednesday, January 23 2013 8:56:37

I'm in a very good mood today. Obama might--MIGHT--be signalling a new liberal turn, while my boy Prince decides to do what I told him years ago and just release shit. He has a new website with a neato new song. Very pop/punk, kinda funky Green Day. A decent head shaker:



Just because there are conspiracy theories doesn't mean that there is not some truth to them.

Corporations conspire to maximize profits. That is so true I don't have to go any further.

Presidents conspire to keep secrets. No need to belch.

Sure, there is weird shit about the Trilateral Commission, but they did put out a document called the 'Crisis of Democracy,' which outlined why democratic movements like the sixties anti-war movement was dangerous and had to be stopped. This is true, people. This explains why the right wing think tanks sprouted up all at the same time.

Why Nixon won. Read Rick Pearlstein.

Most bushes have nothing behind them, but every now and again there are thugs and killers and peepers.

Reality is scarier than fiction.

oz - Wednesday, January 23 2013 3:11:8

Restoring my Faith
Hey, ALL: After all of the lunacy that has been scratching the ether straight above the United States of late, THIS kind of thing, from a mother in TEXAS, ferChrissake, is enough to begin restoring my Faith -- with a capital "F" -- in humankind.


The blog mentioned above, "Why I Raise My Children Without God", which she wrote, can be found here:


clipping Service
- Tuesday, January 22 2013 16:29:20

Michael Moorcock
gives a shout out to our most esteemed host, in the LA Review Of Books.....


shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Tuesday, January 22 2013 14:53:2

Name-drop mention of HE and SPIDER KISS as a comparison for CHICK BASSIST by Ross Lockhart.



Steve Perry <perry1966@comcast.net>
Beaverton, OR - Tuesday, January 22 2013 14:34:29

Conspiracy Theory
People love their conspiracies. Couldn't have been one nut with a rifle, couldn't have been a bunch of religious fanatics hijacking a plane, had to be somebody unseen and all-powerful organization behind the curtain twirling the dials for nefarious purposes beyond the ken of us mere mortals.

Makes the world so much simpler if the trinity of little old Jewish guys in Bern are pulling all the strings, explains all the unexplainable that vexes those who need neat answers to their questions. The illuminati, the Trilateral Commission, the aliens hiding out at Area 51, they are all in it together, you know, and *they* are being run by ... well, best I not say. The walls have ears.

The problem is, there *are* conspiracies, just enough of 'em so that you can point to one, and then extrapolate to the bigger one just up the road. Corporations lie to cover their asses all the time. The government lies likewise. That the Navy hid those released-bacteria experiments in San Francisco in the 1950's the one that kilt Great Uncle Harold who was recovering from his appendectomy? Those can be stretched and abused enough to to become weather-changing chem-trails and fluoride in the water to set up the Zombie Apocalypse. That the state coughed and turned a blind eye to radioactive shit flowing into the Columbia from Hanford, morphs right into a faked moon landing. And now this abomination that the shootings of the children was all part of a plot by the Obama administration to get rid of guns -- they weren't really shot, it's all a clever shuck -- and you know, Obama is just a dupe being controlled by the Rosicrucians and the Dalai Lama and the Pope in cahoots.

If Jesus wept, He certainly had more than enough reason. Prometheus should have passed out brains instead of fire.


- Tuesday, January 22 2013 13:26:19

Old chum:

This current proliferation of wingnuts with apocalyptic and otherwise demented conspiratorial verbal jihads they absolutey MUST suject you to, is a cyclical thing, Rob....take a minim of ease; like the shingles, it will pass like the adult manifestation of the childhood malaise that it creepily resembles. A number of times in my life I've been unceremoniously swarmed by these avia dementia. I play their lunacy for a little bit, then lower them in and convince them it's all part of a Master Takeover Plan by the Scientologists working hand in hand with the Mormons. Tell it well, tres serioso, and you'll whip them into a psychotic lather that would make my old friend Ron roar with leonine laughter.

Advice, today, from on high. Yr. pal, Harlan

- Tuesday, January 22 2013 12:37:38

Gotta expel this somewhere or I'm gonna bounce off the walls:

For whatever reason, conspiracy nuts have been latching on to me over the last month or so. It's become a topical laundry list, but the most recent "call-to-arms" is the "obvious" staging of recent gun sprees, including the children of Sandy Hook, and now today's Texas shooting!

You can bet Obama is a dupe in all this as well!

These are, to be sure, part of the group firmly confident that the 9/11 trade center collapse was a calculated plan worked out and set up by our own.

And a new one came at me today as well: FEMA has set up secret "re-education centers". FEMA! Exactly what FEMA is re-educating us about was never clarified, but it didn't even help when I pointed out FEMA heretofore hadn't enough of a budget to rescue your cat from the tree!

These people are privileged to think whatever whacko shit they want, but WHY they have to follow me around is beyond my 30-watt light bulb!

If the bozos won't leave me alont I guess I'll just nod and say absolutely NOTHING!

Kenneth Stevens <stevens.kenneth@gmail.com>
Knoxville, Tennessee - Tuesday, January 22 2013 11:19:15

Linus Pauling said that the secret to having a good idea is to have a lot of ideas. This is consistent with Stalin's observation that quantity has a quality all its own.

A similar arrangement drives evolution, of course.

Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
Saugerties, New York U.S.A. - Monday, January 21 2013 21:45:12

creative ideas
My ideas come when driving, so I must pull over to the side of the road and write them down. The thought that must not be lost is how I define and idea worth putting the car in park. It is predated by some one emotion that boils up into a phrase or sentence. If I am good enough I get a paragraph on the spot or seven. Then the sweat of beating it with my tapping hammer into a story.Typewriter in fact.

Alejandro Riera
Chicago, Il - Monday, January 21 2013 21:16:52

Downton Abbey has met its match
BBC America will air representative episodes of each one of the 11 Doctors beginning this Sunday at 9/8 Central with First Doctor adventure The Aztecs. Yep, same time as Downton Abbey (fortunately, WTTW in Chicago reruns the series almost half a dozen times during the entire week).

- Monday, January 21 2013 19:50:28

something to behold
Indeedy, The Moon and Jupiter really stood out against the blueness of the sky before nightfall today. Going back outside now. Brrr. I'm regretting not having some eyepieces for my little 4-inch reflector telescope -- loaned 'em out for a Leitz microscope (used as a prop) last summer. Trustworthy pal has 'em. But there must be a "work around" on-the-cheap this week.

Brian D. <bricdoan@gmail.com>
Oberlin, OH - Monday, January 21 2013 19:42:15

Hey Frank Church,
Not to rain on your rant, but Bourdain didn't end his NO RESERVATIONS to "host a food show on teevee." As has been documented in a lot of places (like here: http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov/13/entertainment/la-et-st-anthony-bourdain-blasts-travel-channel-20121113), Travel Channel repurposed footage from the show to make it falsely look like Bourdain was endorsing Cadillac, which had a product placement deal with the network. After asking/warning them not to do it, they did it again. So he walked. I would think an anti-coporatist like you would cheer this (very Ellisonian) move. And he's not just doing the ABC show-- he's doing a new version of NO RESERVATIONS for CNN, producing a show about other cooks for the same network, writing another graphic novel, and editing a book line.

Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Monday, January 21 2013 18:17:1

The Moon and Jupiter
Very clear night here in Southern California -- we have a good view of the moon and Jupiter. Which means our host should have a fine view as well.
Very nifty indeed.

Tom Morgan
Silverado, CA - Monday, January 21 2013 18:11:26

Look, up in the sky, it's a bird, it's a plane...

No, it's the Moon and Jupiter as close as they will be (from our perspective) for a long time. If you have a clear sky go take a look.

- Monday, January 21 2013 17:54:43

Ideas..."the come".

Indeed, the process is quintessential masturbation between left and right brains. La petite mort!

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Monday, January 21 2013 14:55:47

Pay the... artist

The beautiful blog LETTERS OF NOTE has a 1997 letter sent by H.R.Giger to the producers of ALIEN RESURRECTION expressing his dissatisfaction at receiving no credit for the alien creature designs exploited in that movie:


oz - Monday, January 21 2013 13:21:20

Note to Ken 'Owes
Hey, KEN: No need to surmise as regards "The Deathbird": there is, in fact, actual evidence -- and even a cofession, by Harlan -- to support your belated theory. Just pick up a copy of HARLAN 101: ENCOUNTERING ELLISON...

right 'chere:

...which was published in 2011.

Hope that helps.
Cheers from oz,

Ken 'Owes <kenkennyrh@aol.com>
Sunderland, UK - Monday, January 21 2013 12:32:10


Late to the party again as usual but the discussion re ideas got me thinking. I'm far from being a professional writer but I always assumed that the idea never comes fully-formed.

I surmise that a story like "The Deathbird" wound up a very different beast from the original spark which then begs the question . . .is the original idea necessarily the meat of the work or just a catalsytic by-product ??

The Van Vogtian method is interesting but how many times have you awoken from a dream unable to catch it ?? And if you can how accurately can you process the information in semi-conscious condition.

Fascinating subject i must say. Yer Dreamweaver 'Owes

John E. Williams
- Monday, January 21 2013 5:31:23

Ask Ben
A profile of the great Ben McFall, who has worked in the fiction department at the Strand bookstore on Broadway and 12th for 34 years and knows everything, including books. He is a gentleman and a treasure.


Diane Bartels <dianebartels99 @comcast.net>
Merrionette Park, IL - Sunday, January 20 2013 18:16:46

Don't know if Harlan or Susan or anyone would be interested, but Chimp Eden in S. Africa has set up a live camera on their chimp NiNa, who is having a baby chimp any day now. While not a breeding facility, Nina's implant failed, so the sanctuary is going to have a new addition. It is pretty cool to watch her and the baby isn't even here yet. I access it by goggling Nina cam, but I am sure the smart folks around her will have the exact site.

Frank Church
- Sunday, January 20 2013 11:33:54

Here's my take on food: eat well, greens, fruit, whole wheat bread, milk, fish, nuts--the good fat kind, then you can eat the shitty, tasty food in moderation. Done.


Kind of burned that Bourdain gave up going around the world to host a food show on teevee. No Reservations was one good ass show, beyond the loopy Ted Nugent one.


Nick Turse has a new book out about the Vietnam war. Seems the crimes we did there were even worse than we thought. Murder, rapes, prostitution, torture, awful stuff.

War maybe hell, but that one was.

JOE WEHRLE, JR. <wehrle1@verizon.net>
Punxsutawney, PA - Sunday, January 20 2013 9:33:24

Not only did van Vogt write down ideas from his dreams, according to his biography he actually set an alarm to go off several times in the night to help him do so.
My own brain seems more fertile for producing ideas since I've been taking ginkgo biloba (unsolicited endorsement).

Tony Isabella: I'm wondering what the costume of a hero with donut power would look like. Maybe I'll try to devise one between projects, just for fun. I'm picturing a thick, donutty collar which holds his cape, the way that golden rope holds Captain Marvel's.

I got something in the mail through eBay the other day that takes me back to my childhood (and to my mother's). She was born in 1910, her sisters were older, and they had a comic character Old Maid deck which they dug out and gave to me when I was small. Unfortunately, mice got into the box and destroyed it, so I haven't seen these cards since I was about seven. But fondly remembered, and now I can enjoy them again. The characters are, in large part, clever take-offs of popular features of the early 1900s, probably to avoid paying licensing fees, thus we have Baxter Brown instead of Buster, Old Foxy instead of Foxy Grandpa, O'Holligan for Happy Hooligan, etc. There are a few I can't place, don't know if they're based on lesser-known strips or are original with this set. I wish I could track down the identity of the excellent artist responsible, as he was certainly good enough to have drawn one of the best-looking comics of the 1910s (and maybe he did!).

Steve Dooner <sdooner@comcast.net>
South Weymouth, MA - Sunday, January 20 2013 7:32:17

The String Theory of Ideas (A Proem)
"Stop with me this day and night and you shall possess the origin of all poems." --Walt Whitman

Ideas come from stopping. By plucking them ripe from the silence.

They arise "Out of Nowhere" (as played by Charlie Parker). And they come as novum strung from nothing at all.

"Nothing will come of nothing."

They come from everywhere instead.

From Guy de Maupassant battling Leiningen's ants and from Edgar Allan Poe, when he didn't take laudnum especially.

They fall down like thunderbolts from C. C. Beck as he sits upon Olympus with a giant rock of eternity suspended over his head by a string.

Ideas murder Nancy, polish Aladdin's lamp and crack the statues of Rodin, so thet must come from No-thing. Knotted up, broken ties and broken Gordian strings.

Ideas come from noting everything as you go.

Ideas come from B. Traven and my cousin Bernie (he prefers Bernard) but you should talk to this guy.

Ideas come from stopping long enough for the needle to touch the voice of Edith Piaf as she spins 'round a turntable singing, "Non Rien de Rien."

Ideas come from opposition, from your dad's interdiction and your mother's eyes. And from seeing them nevermore.

They are there for you in Shakespeare's "grave truth" that we must utter to kill the silence.

Twisted, sick in terror,

Whisping and whispering, as lover's words in the dark.

They come.

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Sunday, January 20 2013 3:44:1

Ideas/sleep/wake - and more academic study of HE
Tim's comment on getting ideas after waking up reminds of two other writers who exploited the time when asleep meets awake:

Ray Bradbury, who said that he woke to a "morning theatre" of characters that spoke to him, which he then had to rush to the typewriter to record. (Sadly, he also said that the only time in his career that it didn't happen was after his beloved wife Maggie died.)

A.E.Van Vogt, who was so convinced of the creativity of his dreams that he once decided to keep a notepad by his bed. If he should awaken in the night, he would immediately write down his wonderful dream-idea, then go back to sleep. The first time he did actually awaken, he scribbled down the dream-idea, then dozed off again. Morning came, he awoke fully and looked at the wonderfully original idea his sleeping mind had given him. It read: "Boy meets girl."

- Phil

P.S. I shall be heading back to California in April to present an Eaton Conference paper on Harlan's screenwriting (and Bradbury's screenwriting). I'm calling it "Specification vs. Speculation: Bradbury, Ellison and Approaches to SF Screenwriting", and it will deal with how SF worlds can be built in a film or TV script. Haven't written it yet, but am accumulating ideas from the BRAIN MOVIES volumes and other published scripts. (Draft conference schedule here: http://eatonconference.ucr.edu/Friday2.html )

Tim Raven <tijmraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Sunday, January 20 2013 0:58:14


Alex, you asked the question…”How do you get your ideas?”

For a successful writer like Harlan, I would presume that he would suss out that you are asking the wrong question.

Steve Perry and Steve Barber were correct in their responses. I have a RESPONSE TOO!

If you are a creative person, then you get notions, ideas. My idea time is mostly in the shower when I wake up.

The real question that you should have asked Harlan is “How can I take my ideas and turn them into best selling stories?”

I have never sold a story. I’ve been trying to do that for the last five years, and I have one productive piece of advice for you.

This is my writing advice:

You get a notion…write it down within ten minutes. Really…otherwise, it is gone.
Keep a pen and notebook within reach…not so unreasonable or crazy…..
Discipline….sure….fuck a cow….call in sick to work for ten days…..burn a barn….smash up your car, this is all trivia….Writing is the only important thing in your life.

Fool them all. Do your slave job and write, write you motherfucker and burn this shithole down!!!!

Tim Raven

the Shadow
- Saturday, January 19 2013 23:41:42

File Under: Good Reads to Come in 2013
Although some of the titles haven't yet been issued publication dates, they are well worth watching for:

ALL THE DEAD YALE MEN by Craig Nova (a writer's writer, and author of THE GOOD SON, TORNADO ALLEY and THE INFORMER) -- this is a sequel to THE GOOD SON, his most critically acclaimed book.


THE BLEEDING EDGE by Thomas Pynchon ('nuff said).

And...as if it needs mentioning again...

CUTTER'S WORLD by Harlan Ellison (who, like Pynchon, needs no introduction 'round these parts). :)

Rosemary Connors <rosie3bee@yahoo.com>
Ardmore, PA - Saturday, January 19 2013 20:27:0

Mildred Spong from the Isle of Wight
Another answer to the question "where do you get your ideas from?": John Cleese on creativity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGt3-fxOvug&feature=player_embedded

Bob Ingersoll <bingersoll@mindspring.com>
South Euclid, Ohio - Saturday, January 19 2013 16:22:57



You're more than welcome. I'm glad the episode arrived in time that you could watch it before Wednesday's episode airs.



shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Saturday, January 19 2013 15:19:55

I posted this a few minutes ago on my blog, and wanted to share it here. It reminds me of some of the letters from readers I've seen in Unca Harlan's books before. Some of you may remember the kerfluffle back in 2010; the memories of that hit me square in the face. Still a little shaken to think that I'm, uh, I'm doing something write:

I received this email moments ago from someone who received THE TWELVE WAYS OF CHRISTMAS:

My wife bought me a copy of your book and sent it to me in Iraq. I like SF and fantasy, and she thought I would like it.

I really enjoy your writing style, and the stories are great. The partridge story “Home for Christmas” was really good. I’ve been that sad at missing a holiday, not seeing my kids and wife. And the eight maids story “Milk of Human Kindness” was awesome, all the horror without going over the top. The story that really got me, though, was the seven swans “But Calm, White Calm, Was Born Into a Swan” about the soldier who dies in the IED booby-trap. That had me crying, and all I could think about were the friends I lost the month before to an IED in a convoy. You nailed it straight on, the fear, the doubt, wondering what it will be like when I get home because I’m not the same person I was (I can say some really rough things, and have a really wicked sense of humor). I really identified with all of the soldiers.

Have you ever seen combat? You write like you have. Thanks for the great stories.

Master Sergeant Stan Williams

This means a great deal to me, because of the book and certain events in my life. I am deeply, deeply honored.



Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.om>
Minneapolis, MN - Saturday, January 19 2013 15:0:17

Loud and Clear

I hear you, Harlan. I checked my spelling, not my tone. Not so much. I've removed the heels and my ordinarily cheerful optimism has returned.

You're loud and clear too, Alex. fyi I post an email address purposefully. Keeps some of the chatter where it belongs. Feel free to message me.


- Saturday, January 19 2013 14:23:36

Bob: The package just arrived. Thank you! Will return the DVD next week (with the postage money).

With all kindness to you--Susan

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Saturday, January 19 2013 13:17:54

Hollywood Stories
Le's mention of "The Pale Silver Dollar of the Moon Pays Its Way and Makes Change" takes me immediately to the section with Carl Sandburg at the Hollywood party. What are some other Ellison Hollywood stories?

Some off the top of my head are "The Resurgence of Miss Ankle-Strap Wedgie"(greatest hollywood story ever), "The Function of Dream Sleep"(Los Angeles), "Laugh Track", and of course we can't leave out "Prince Myshkin, and Hold the Relish". What have I forgotten?


- Saturday, January 19 2013 13:6:39

I don't like ideas! They're harmful. Virulent.


Speaking of virulence, I now have to add Whole Foods to my "boycott" list, as I learned this week its CEO - another dumb-shit blanket libertarian - not only called Obamacare Fascism and villified government sponsored healthcare of any kind but, even worse, denies his employees any health care plan. Talk about denying both ends of the candle! If employers do not want to provide healthcare plans, and people can't afford their own, who else to turn to but government assistance? These aren't interested in solutions, just their own mega-profits. This explains, too, why Whole Foods products are not all organic as the company claims. Not giving them any more of MY business!

Frank Church
- Saturday, January 19 2013 11:20:16

Howard Dean calls them idears. Probably why he is not President.


Maher is saying we are making too big of a deal about the flu. Not smart.

His usual unscientific view about the flu shot being bad.


My Noamie sounds off on empire:


Steve Barber <barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Saturday, January 19 2013 9:47:47

Wading in from the side...

I'm glad Harlan takes the position he does regarding a question he has heard perhaps ten thousand times. In his response is a sympathy with the questioner, which is sound and understanding.

A similar question would be to an actor: where do you get your motivation? To a poet: your inspiration? To a painter: your vision? A photographer: your eye?

People want to understand the process. Sometimes it's because they, themselves, cannot fathom an imagination that created "REPENT HARLEQUIN".

As a photographer -- semi-professional in that I get paid for my work, but am hardly in the range of self-supporting -- I've been asked a similar question at art shows and exhibitions. Even by friends who are themselves artists.

Perhaps my best friend in this world -- other than my wife -- is a good example. He is a wonderful guy, in spite of being a Republican, with lots of excellent qualities. A vivid imagination isn't one of them.

Recently he and I went up to Joshua Tree for a photo expedition -- me driving and shooting, he running up and down boulders and carrying on a good conversation. He marveled several times at the things he thought I was shooting -- he didn't see the same things I did as we wandered down trails or across a rocky expanse.

The most inexplicable, for him, were the nighttime time exposures. Tripod up, I'd aim the camera into the blackness hoping my memory of the scene was good. He took it on my word that it would work -- but I could practically hear the Missouri coming through.

In a vein similar to "Where do you get your ideas" he asked "How do you see these things"? In other words, what starts the process, what gets the artist engaged? I don't pretend to answer for anyone else, but I wrote a short essay on my website that captures my thinking. (It's okay, I gave myself permission to reprint it here.)


Much of the challenge (and pleasure) of photography is to give a sense of place. While the photographer may have concrete memories of a moment he/she has captured in time, the viewer does not.

What has to occur for the viewer to appreciate a photograph is the triggering of a memory, thought or emotion.

For a picture to be truly successful it must be visceral, capturing the essence of what the photographer saw, and melding it to a feeling the viewer once felt.

I am drawn to take a picture as a result of a fraction-of-a-second emotional reaction. If I see something that attracts my eye it must, in that fraction, catch me and then tell me a story.

For me to later select that picture -- among the potentially hundreds of others I have taken -- as one which I wish to share, it has to have a little something extra, a little something that brings me up short, makes me stop and look.

And look again.


Speaking of Unca HARLAN: I need to call you this upcoming week. Printer is still on the fritz.

SUSAN - Have you checked the On Demand section of your TV provider? They may have the episode of SUPERNATURAL there for watching. Usually no charge.

Clipping Service
- Saturday, January 19 2013 8:18:0

Kubrick on where ideas come from.....
From the great Michael Herr book (and article)

"He’d never talk about his movies while he was making them, and he didn’t like talking about them afterward very much, even to friends, except maybe to mention the grosses. Most of all, he didn’t want to talk about their “meaning,” because he believed so passionately in their meaning that to try to talk about it could only spoil it for him. He might tell you how he did it, but never why. I think that he, an arch-materialist (maybe) and an artist of the material world, made the single most inspired spiritual image in all of film, the Star Child watching with equanimity the timeless empty galaxies of existence-after-existence, waiting patiently once again to be born.

Somebody asked him how he ever thought of the ending of 2001.

“I don’t know,” he said. “How does anybody ever think of anything?”


Steve Perry <Perry1966@comcast.net>
Beaverton, OR - Saturday, January 19 2013 2:7:4

Crazy Ideas
Not meant to add fuel to any fires, just my hit on the subject ...

The first time I went to a science fiction convention, I was already a pro. Sort of. I had sold two stories, neither of which had been published yet.

As I sat in the audience for a panel at that decadent Miami hotel, I began to feel a certain amount of despair listening to the writers on the panel. While it was true that there were some heavyweights in the field up there, they were all so fucking brilliant that I knew if I'd been offered a seat, I couldn't begin to keep up. I mean, every question that audience had? They had answers off the tops of their heads, BAM! No hesitation, clean, quick, and I was stunned. The guys were all geniuses! Literate, memories like steel traps, whick-whick-whick, Zorro, carving zees everywhere!

Despair. I'd be fighting way above my weight, I'd get creamed.

Then I went to a few more panels.

Then a few more conventions.

Then I had the head-slapping, come-to-Jesus moment: It wasn't that they were all eidetic intellectual giants ( though some of them were passing bright), it was simply that they had heard all the questions before.

Over and over and over and over and over.

If you get the answers to the quiz in advance? You can toss 'em off and look very much the sage.

All of which goes to Harlan's point: When you sit up there, you speak to a passing parade. There is a constant, moving line of newbies who ask, because they don't know. (Ignorance is not stupidity, you can cure the former, but not the latter.)

You can't cure the ignorance in the time allotted -- especially when you don't have the answer.

If you can make a living writing fiction, you don't get to bitch about your job. A lot of folks would kill to swap places with you. But after you have heard the same questions a hundred times, you might be tempted to riff on the answers. Like the guys who used to run the Jungle Boat ride at Disneyland. First, they played it straight, then they started to do comedy, and the funny variations were way more fun.

What somebody who asks "Where do you get your crazy ideas?" really wants to know is, What's the secret? Where is the short cut? The one that gets me from where I am to where you are? They want a simple how-to to a question that doesn't have a simple answer. Because the answer for a lot of us is: I don't have a fucking clue. And I don't really want to poke at it too hard and maybe screw it up; enough that it works at all.

Zelazny used to joke about leaving milk out for the brownies. I sometimes tell people there's a cable TV show on Wednesdays at two a.m., Ideas for Fiction Writers. You get a laugh, and at least that's entertaining.

I don't have a fucking clue? That's not much help. (Shazam won't do it.)

I like dogs, I am patient with children, I love talking to my nine fans. If I make a joke when someone asks a question at a panel and the questioner doesn't get it, somebody there will explain it to them. In an audience full of fans, no matter how esoteric a reference you make? Somebody there will get it.

Crazy ideas? I suspect there are many answers to that as people who get them.


Beautiful Northridge, CA - Friday, January 18 2013 23:6:50

B-side Harlan Ellison

My best friend and English professor is including Harlan Ellison again in one of his classes. This time it's "The Day I Died," which I like a lot. (He loves the intro to STRANGE WINE, but wasn't sure how to incorporate it into the class.)

My favorite of "B-side" Ellison, of course, remains "The Pale Silver Dollar of the Moon Pays Its Way and Makes Change."


Hmmm...I always liked that Outer Limits episode called "The Man Who Was Never Born," too.


OFF TOPIC: Right now listening to that terrific moody instrumental rock piece called "Have You Passed Through This Night" by the wonderful Austin-based band, Explosions in the Sky. (The voice-over that opens the song was appropriated from Terrence Malick's film, THE THIN RED LINE; you hear it in that sequence when they overrun the Japanese bivouac.)


Mark Goldberg <markabaddon@gmail.com>
Eagan, Minnesota - Friday, January 18 2013 19:22:55

I have at times, shared some of the less pleasant events in my life on these pages, so I thought I would share some good news. On Tuesday I begin employment at the University of Minnesota in what I am hoping will be a very positive career move for me. As I was reflecting today I realized that I had not left a job of my own accord in over 10 years (my last two jobs were eliminated). It is far better to choose to make a job change than to have one forced upon you.

I ended up getting a second job offer this week, although this one is unpaid. My synagogue has asked me to be their HR Adviser and I accepted. My rabbis there have done so much for me over the past several years, I look at this as a way to repay some of their support to me.

Susan, a question for you: I saw your posting about Supernatural. Karen & I watched the first couple of episodes of season 1 and for whatever reason it did not resonate with me. Would you say that season 1 is representative of the show or are there later seasons you would recommend?

All the best,


Iain Aitken <reddragon70@aol.com>
dumfries, Dumfries, Scotland - Friday, January 18 2013 18:41:1


Where the hell do "Ideas" come from?

Buggered if I know.

I got the idea of space ships being built or an orbital platform above the Clyde Valley. A space elevator anchored in Clydebank's titan crane. Ship building men going into space to build engines of commerce and war. The same thing that has been done in Clydebank since before I was born.

Unca Harlan said "write about what you know". Well on the Clyde we know about shipbuilding. So that is what I did. I wrote about the men who build ships. Their jokes, their jobs, their deaths on occasion. But mostly, the men of the Clyde.

My idea is probably not new, its probably been done a thousand times. And better than I could ever write it. But I write my story, Clyde Built, based on friends, people I have lost, people I have respected and most of all, the place I grew up. A place a loath and a place I miss. The Clyde Valley. Glasgow.

My ideas come to me when I am driving trains. Go figure.


Los Angeles, - Friday, January 18 2013 16:34:31

Some of you may have seen this: A 20 year old woman with an affliction called "Syndrome X." Despite her age, she has the mind, and body, of a toddler.

Reminds me of a certain Harlan Ellison story.


- Friday, January 18 2013 14:37:12


Alex, Rick, everyone else who had an add-in on whether asking me (yet again) "where do you get your ideas?" was rude, it having been being queried here, in our little salon.

No, I am not affronted in the least. Absolutely okay.

But my answer remains the same as it has for more than forty years.

If my friends seem exasperated on my behalf, it is only because (I'm extrapolating) they've read one of the half dozen or more extended replies to the question that I've proffered over the decades. (Up to, and including, "The Soul of Solomon," my "Green hornet" essay from just last year.) They know the ultimate response, which is: "There is no one cover-all answer."

Ideas just apppear. Wraiths. Two or more disembodied concepts, otherwise unlike, suddenly have a liaison: what if?
And the shoots grow out from there. It is one of the wonderful, inexplicable aspects of the capacity for human ratiocination. No explaining it. As unfathomable, truly, as Explain God to me," or "How does gravity work?"

I've tried, in my way, to deal seriously with answering this endlessly-posed stoner, but neither in perseon nor in print has it settled the conundrum. That's because there IS NO ANSWER, and every time a new mendicant appears with paw outstretched, we furrow the same row, to no better or more salient answer.

That someone here should ask--and yes, here is as apropos a site as any--for the millionth time, is just one of the risks of going out in public with one's work. You cannnot truly satisfy anyone, no matter how cogent or non-bullshit the answer. It never changes. Which is why I came up with "the idea service via post in Schenectady." It's a gag, but it's got a good heart, and iintended to show good-natured light where endless dithyramb cannot.

Do not be wearisome with each other. After all these years I take no offense. It's like a well-processed vaudeville routine:
"Where do you get your ideas...?" -- "Well, there's this postal idea service in Schenecteday and every week, for twenty-five bucks, they send me a fresh six-pak of ideas."

No one need get rankled over the apppearance of this civet cat yet again. As long as we write, some one will come late to the seminar, and we go over it again and again. It is part of the price we pay,ust like Josh Olson's "I Will Not Read Your Fucking Script!"

But for those wih gold in their hearts, be sanguine. I am.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Bob Ingersoll <bingersoll@mindspring.com>
South Euclid, Ohio - Friday, January 18 2013 14:5:45



Put the DVD into a hard shell case. Put the case into a padded envelop. Put the padded envelop into an Express Mail overnight envelop and mailed it out to you this afternoon. (I declined the "Signature Required" option, so no one should have to sign for it; it can just be put into your mail box.)

It should arrive sometime tomorrow -- Saturday. Allegedly before noon, but considering it's the Post Office, I make no promises. We frequently don't get our mail until 6:30 p.m. at our house.



Joe B.
New York City, - Friday, January 18 2013 13:53:11

Hour 25 on YouTube
Hour 25 recordings with Harlan popped up on YouTube over the past two days.

This one is with Harlan and Dick Lochte: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKzxKMFri60

There are others from the same user, Th9Dave

- Joe B.

- Friday, January 18 2013 13:52:22

"Alex, you're denigrating Harlan in his own house, and ennobling those lazy-minded oafs who cannot ask a smart question. Please tell me, sir: Where do YOU get your bad ideas?"

I get my bad ideas from thinking, just like I get my good ideas. Regrettably, the former outnumbers the latter considerably.

In our country, the education (sic) system provides most of us with exactly one writing class -- composition, which we take for one semester and then never touch again. Do you remember Comp 101, Keeney? I do. We were taught both ways to write a "correct" essay: the four-paragraph and the five-paragraph method. State the argument, write in favor of it, write against it, (add you opinion, if you get five paragraphs) and conclude. Thus, Creationism requires a pro and a con from everyone. As does the Ku Klux Klan, swimming right after eating, buying an extended warranty and so forth.

How many things in life don't fit into four or five paragraphs, neatly sectioned off, Keeney? But that's what most of us are shown is "writing." A joyless drudgery that reminds me of John D. MacDonald's line about being marched in formation to enjoy a sunset.

Writing becomes a stilted, awkward, formulaic thing. We aren't allowed to fiddle around and explore and experiment. No. Five paragraphs, each consisting of four to six sentences, and Godalmighty help you if you put in a swear word because it "feels" right or slip into passive voice.

Now, let me cover the details. As to denigrating Harlan Ellison. It's right on the list after division by zero. Ellison has every single award someone can win in writing. His skill is simply beyond computation. But you know what, he said it himself in the intro to "An Edge in My Voice" when he mentions that he is often as wrong as the reader, but that he maintains. It isn't denigration to point out something for someone to reconsider.

Ellison took one of his teachers' criticism and turned it into a motivation. He sends that guy a copy of every thing he writes that gets published. That takes a very special sense of self-worth. What if it had gone the other way? What if his teacher's comment scared Ellison off? Am I the only one who has known people of great talent who could be crumpled with ease?

As to the "lazy-minded oafs who cannot ask a smart question." One of my friends has read every single thing Ursula K. LeGuin's written. He loves her to death. And he's so shy and nervous in a crowd of strangers that even though he had no trouble going to a reading she held, he couldn't ask her a question, even when he went up to the book signing. As we walked away, he mentioned that he wished he'd asked her such-and-such. "Why didn't you?" I asked. And he fumpled off. I dragged him back to the signing table, got back in the line, and when we got back up, I said, "I'm sorry, he's already gotten the book signed, but he forgot to ask you a question." And he asked his question, and he got his answer.

Some people -- I used to be one, and it took me years to get over it -- simply freeze up in public speaking situations and drop about 30 IQ points instantly. They don't mean to; they simply can't help it. That doesn't make someone a lazy oaf, anymore than watching someone with a gimpy leg running down the street should invite guffaws of laughter.

Perhaps it isn't my place to raise the issue in "his house." Where should I raise it, the United Nations? Vatican City? We all have blind spots. If Mr. Ellison wants to denigrate fans who can't hit their marks, give a perfect, brilliantly insightful question, and then scuttle off, fine, that's his choice. But I still think it's my choice to try to point out that it isn't very nice.

Or is Mr. Ellison -- and those who agree with him all the time on everything -- the only ones allowed to speak? The entire body of his work tells me that's not how he thinks.

Adam-Troy Castro
- Friday, January 18 2013 13:31:26

Whoa, Dude
Subterranean Press just mailed me ARCS of their new editions of GENTLEMAN JUNKIE and THE DEADLY STEETS. They are not the fancy hardcovers to come, but they are beautifully designed volumes. Alas, neither fits my narrow review guidelines, but I am gld to have them. I envy me, today.

- Friday, January 18 2013 12:47:30

Charlie, thanks for the compliment, and you're RIGHT! I, natur'ly meant FOREWARD...as in Harlan's foreward!

Cimino's HEAVENS GATE is restored to a cut originally eliminated by UA in 1980 resulting in the worst reviews a movie could get! Having read about what Cimino originally wanted and the source material he used, I am now very open-minded about the movie. Never bothered seeing it. I want to check out the restored cut.

Ken 'Owes <kenkennyrh@aol.com>
Sunderland, UK - Friday, January 18 2013 11:41:47


Don't know if you guys in the States have got it yet but I urge you to get off your arses and go see LES MISERABLES when it arrives in your local cinema. Wonderful film - works the emotions if you buy into the idea of a sung movie.

True story . . .I developed a cold on the morning I went to see it and so involved did I get that I was sitting in the cinema, next to my daughter, with tears running down my face combined with a running nose. Luvverly.

What do you do in a situation like that so as not to look stoopid ?? Couldn't go for a hanky to wipe the hooter for fear of the "wussy" looks. Couldn't really let it drip off my chin end for fear of the "phwoar" looks. So, had to nonchanantly dab at the nose and let the tears dry themselves.

This happens later again at the film's finale. Credits roll, the lights go up and I'm still in a mess. Daughter turns round, ignores the state of my mush and proclaims "Sappy crap."

Ohhh . . .it was a long ride home.

Last time that happened to me was when I read the "Ahbhu" segment of Deathbird Stories . . .without the nasal problem.

That weeping willow, yer Bruvver 'Owes

- Friday, January 18 2013 10:39:27

Bob--You are a fine friend.


Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Friday, January 18 2013 6:44:53

I ate a radioactive donut and now I have donut powers.

And radiation poisoning.

So it's not all good.

Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
Saugerties, New York U.S.A. - Friday, January 18 2013 6:25:25

Word perfect sounds like a dream made for the techno-idiot in me.
I somehow logged out and pavilion annex will not let me register to log back in for I use my correct and only e-mail and it says it is already in use.How this came about is beyond me. I am who I am and also God help me a complete idiot when it comes to working the spell check on my new lap-top or word perfect or my brain it would seem. Dare I hope someone out there can get me out of this fine mess I have put myself in. Certified idiot requesting technical help.

Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
Saugerties, New York U.S.A. - Friday, January 18 2013 6:25:25

Word perfect sounds like a dream made for the techno-idiot in me.
I somehow logged out and pavilion annex will not let me register to log back in for I use my correct and only e-mail and it says it is already in use.How this came about is beyond me. I am who I am and also God help me a complete idiot when it comes to working the spell check on my new lap-top or word perfect or my brain it would seem. Dare I hope someone out there can get me out of this fine mess I have put myself in. Certified idiot requesting technical help.

Bob Ingersoll <bingersoll@mindspring.com>
South Euclid, Ohio - Friday, January 18 2013 5:26:52


First to one and all, I apologize in advance that I will probably post a second time today -- again to give Susan updates as to my progress in the favor I'm doing for her.

Second, Susan, I copied Wednesday's episode of SUPERNATURAL from my TiVo to a DVD. I will mail it out to you express mail overnight later today. (It's still rather early yet, even with us being three hours earlier than you on the West Coast.) I'll let you know when it's coming.



- Thursday, January 17 2013 20:57:2

The part in the middle
You're forgiven, Bob, but...what was the part in the MIDDLE?
(The above out-of-left-field comment comes to you courtesy of "A Fish Called Wanda", and the inspired acting of Kevin Kline).


P.S. Hope the DVD recording works out 100 percent!

Bob Ingersoll <bingersoll@mindspring.com>
South Euclid, - Thursday, January 17 2013 20:0:10

More On Supernatural

For some reason, when I tried to transfer the episode from my TiVo to my computer -- so that I could burn it onto a DVD, it wouldn't transfer the last 5 minutes of the show. So I'll transfer it onto a VHS tape. I checked and I do have the entire episode on my TiVo, it just won't transfer completely. From there I should be able to dub the episode onto a DVD.

Actually, come to think of it, I might be able to direct dub it onto a DVD. Either way I hope to overnight it to you tomorrow afternoon.

Oh and sorry one and all about the second post, but I wanted to give Susan an update as soon as I could.


- Thursday, January 17 2013 18:41:27

Dear Bob:

I would like to take you up on your SUPERNATURAL offer.

Many, many thanks--Sue

Clipping Service
- Thursday, January 17 2013 18:29:4

Our Host is a well known Brother Theodore fan.
Rest your retinas on THIS:


Theodore would have made the greatest “Chiller Theatre”-type host in history!

Bob Ingersoll <bingersoll@mindspring.com>
South Euclid, Ohio - Thursday, January 17 2013 17:4:40


My TiVo recorded SUPERNATURAL last night. I should be able to dump it onto either a DVD or a tape for you. (Definitely VHS and, I should be able to can copy it onto a DVD as well. But you would have to wait a day or two for it to arrive in the mail. If no one closer to you, who can deliver it by hand, can supply you the episode, let me know here or by phone and I'll send you a copy ASAP.

Also let me know whether you have a preference in format: DVD or VHS.



the Shadow
- Thursday, January 17 2013 12:56:54

File Under Good Reads
While I'm sure a few on here have already read it, anyone who hasn't perused CLOUD ATLAS by David Mitchell should do so. I'm almost finished -- missed the original publication, but picked up a copy of the Modern Library edition after reading about the film version -- and, while I will make up mind about it's totality after I finish, I must say it is a complex, engaging and well-written novel. I usually read three or four books at once, unless the narrative of a particular novel demands I pay undivided attention until I finish it. This one did just that. If you haven't done so already, check it out.

Ray Carlson
Chicago, IL - Thursday, January 17 2013 11:5:16

New Book on Scientology

Unca Harlan:

Wondering if you intend to read "Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief" by Pulitzer Prize-winning author Lawrence Wright? It sounds utterly fascinating. And bizarre. http://thebea.st/13BDFul

Andrew Laubacher
Buffalo, NY - Thursday, January 17 2013 10:14:44

The CW does have complete episodes of at least some of its shows available at its website. I don't know if SUPERNATURAL is among those or when the latest episode would be available.

- Thursday, January 17 2013 10:3:57


Hello and help!

Did anyone tape SUPERNATURAL last night. My stupid, stupid recorder did not. Help anyone. I can return the tape/DVD the same week.

My stupid, stupid recorder does not know I'm asking. It's the HAL of California.


- Thursday, January 17 2013 10:3:56


Hello and help!

Did anyone tape SUPERNATURAL last night. My stupid, stupid recorder did not. Help anyone. I can return the tape/DVD the same week.

My stupid, stupid recorder does not know I'm asking. It's the HAL of California.


Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
Saugerties, New York U.S.A.s - Thursday, January 17 2013 9:43:55

Bad Joke
If my life was easy, it wouldn't be my life.

- Wednesday, January 16 2013 22:42:31

Ground breaking therapy, same old bad jokes
Okay, I KNOW there is no excuse for introducing this groundbreaking therapy with bad, sophomoric guy joke, but, this may give
new meaning to the old "playground" put-down, "eat shit and die":


Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.com>
Minneapolis, MN - Wednesday, January 16 2013 20:27:38


I see nothing in the heart of your message to raise ire, Steve. The tone may be a tad off-putting, and since I am a master of superciliousness, I have no complaint. I guess what nailed what's-his-name...James Cameron...was his public verbal admission that he'd stolen from Harlan. Correct?

What you said makes perfect sense. But I would encourage you to watch that episode and see how the trope is delivered.

pax, Max

Steve Perry <perry1966@comcast.net>
Beaverton, OR - Wednesday, January 16 2013 17:16:50

At the risk of pissing folks off, the Grandfather Paradox, time-travel, and stories thereabout have all been around for a long time. If the influences by one upon a subsequent one are such that theft is obvious -- Terminator, for instance -- then the writer who was ripped off can sue, demonstrate it, and win. Which is as it should be.

However ...

Any time travel story that involves going back to take out somebody to change the future? That, um, has been around for a while, going back to at least the 1940's, (René Barjavel in his 1943 book "Le Voyageur Imprudent") when the notion was bandied about using that exact term in print. I think it's unrealistic to assume that anybody who plays with the notion is ipso facto ripping off our avuncular host.

There are generations of folks, most especially in Hollywood, but in comics and novel-land, who haven't seen any TV or movies older than they are, much less read stuff by old guys who have been doing it since dirt was invented.

I once had a woman in a class turn in a story that was a pretty good imitation of "Donovan's Brain." She claimed never to have seen the movies or read the Siodmak's book. I believed her -- she was a Ph.D in English, which is why I believed her ...


Steve Hatton <stevehatton@blueyonder.co.uk>
St Helens, UK - Wednesday, January 16 2013 16:34:41


Just a quick ask if you have received or replied to my letter I sent last month. The reason I'm concerned is, as explained I will be temporarily moving next week.

Take care.


Frank Church
- Wednesday, January 16 2013 15:44:59

Hey, kids, guess why the Second Amendment was ratified? To strenghthen slavery:


Obama did good today.

Saul Trabal <ghost_kingdom@yahoo.com>
New Jersey - Tuesday, January 15 2013 19:10:16

Hey folks-rare poster, long-time lurker. Mr. Ellison & fellow posters:

A young man battles creationism in Louisiana. Folks like him give me hope for the future. Stop by the link below:


EU - Tuesday, January 15 2013 15:6:16

Short synopsis for Iron Man: Armored Adventures, episode Iron Man 2099:
"In the future, Tony Stark’s grandson Andros is Iron Man 2099. Except his time-travelling super-armor isn't designed to save the day, but to eliminate Tony Stark, since he believes Tony will be responsible for a catastrophe that will affect the year 2099. Now Tony must take down his own futuristic grandson with the help of Hawkeye and S.H.I.E.L.D. while avoiding the future disaster at the same time!"
A full synopsis is here: http://marvel.wikia.com/Iron_Man:_Armored_Adventures_Season_2_18

It's easy to spot the Soldier or Terminator influence, but apparently it was done with new twists.

Janet Gamache
Victoria, BC - Tuesday, January 15 2013 12:2:10

Lyric lava
it is a
that must tell
the tale of
A stream
so oft
(a thousandfold)
each word
(a self)
and guarantee
to exile


St. Pete, FL - Tuesday, January 15 2013 11:56:48

Rob, very artistic and talented! (BTW, I've even seen "foreword" misspelled in books as "forward.")

- Tuesday, January 15 2013 11:34:11

A few items of my artwork and blog writing:


(Harlan, just take a bloody glance at it. Here we include a massive pencil drawing (from days before I had training - that's the old searcher with his horse), a couple of cartoons I sold, an X-Mas card I did for relatives in Amsterdam, and a digital imaging of a boss I hated)

(On another front, I seem to be developing my knack for writing short stories. I am soon getting several copyrighted)


Harlan, the forward you wrote for the sci-fi toypedia a few years ago (I forgot its title just now. Browsed it at Hi-Di-Ho in Santa Monica) stuck with me. Your passage about how people died long before their passing from the earth, when the child they once were ceased to exist - citing, in this case, Timothy McVeigh - is a profound truth, one, I feel, applies to half the human race. It is the most prevalent death among our species.

A beautiful essay it is. I'd like to frame it.

- Tuesday, January 15 2013 11:17:29

episode 44: "Iron Man 2099"

Story by: Julien Magnat
Written by: Chris "Doc" Wyatt

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.com>
Minneapolis, MN - Tuesday, January 15 2013 10:58:58

For those blue monkeys who do such things, may I suggest a quick review of an episode of "Iron Man: Armored Adventures" titled "Iron Man 2099"? I suspect plagiarism of Harlan's "Soldier", and I repeat: "suspect". This is for someone else's better-informed, legal analysis.

Marjorie, you need attention, hon. Today, I am your man. Double posting here is a sin, though not cardinal and punished with a one day ban; however your bare-ass-wag flaunting of our main commandment here lacks class. May I suggest you stay away for a week-or however long it may take for you to regain your composure? Upon your return, please approach with Messrs. Strunk, White, and Webster in hand: they are good guys, known,and loved well and hard by the writerly.

Alex, you're denigrating Harlan in his own house, and ennobling those lazy-minded oafs who cannot ask a smart question. Please tell me, sir: Where do YOU get your bad ideas?

Also: the Museum Guy is a KNIGHT. No bones about it.

Low bullshit tolerance exceeded,
but peace at least,

Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
Saugerties, - Tuesday, January 15 2013 8:11:44

am I a writer: Where do those pesky ideas come from
The second you put pen to paper and get past the....you are a writer. Add noun and a verb and you are on your way to a plot and then for the money shot add a character and if it is too be worth a damn purpose, point, guts If you quit because of what anyone says ever well foolish. Harlan told me to go be a plumber because I sure as hell wasn't a writer. I was already in print and still am. Write more now then then. There are no bad ideas only gestation periods some shorter some longer. Keep a note pad of them all they will rippen. Be well and write away writer.Marjorie Louise Patterson Oh I know I posted twice in one day and I know I will be docked some God awful amount of time of not posting for it. I have been throw out of better bars then this.Give me my sentence and I will serve and obey.

Brooklyn, - Tuesday, January 15 2013 7:31:15

Where do you get your ideas
I'm well aware of HE's reaction to those who ask him where he gets his ideas from, but I've always thought the response he gives to be a bit bullying, and those who enable it by finding humor in it to be a bit like the kids who stand around after the ambulance leaves with the victim of the beating. "Aw, we were just ragging on him. Jim didn't mean to hit him so hard. We would have stopped picking on him soon anyway. It's his own fault for being such a spaz. If he knew how to defend himself, Jim wouldn't have gotten in so many punches." etc.

The people who ask the question are -- probably very inelegantly and tentatively -- asking for an explanation of the creative process. "Where do you get your ideas?" is probably the awkward, stage-fright version of "You clearly must have a lot of story ideas going through your head. Do you find that these ideas come to you at particular times in the day, like when you're showering or when you're eating dinner? Do they just pop up? And when you have an idea, how do you know it's a GOOD idea for a story? Do you have to dive in and write for a while before realizing it's a stinker, or do you figure that out relatively quickly? Have you learned to spot the stinkers sooner now than you did at the beginning? You see, I ask because I, too, have ideas, and I, too, would like to be a writer, but I lack self-confidence. My whole life has been a series of belittlements, and this dream of writing is one of the few things I've got left to hang on to, so I'm trying to sneak up on it. So if you tell me where you get your ideas, and if it's the same as where I get my ideas, maybe, just maybe, I have a tiny chance of being a writer."

Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
Saugerties, america - Tuesday, January 15 2013 4:55:25

Sunny skys wakes in the morning doesn't know when to rise
January 15 my birthday. I would like to publish again. And to post on pavilion annex. Steve barber may I tell you what I think of conformation codes I can't read?Advice how to log on that does't work and the annex says my name is non-exsistent.Come on. What gives. The publishing I can do maybe. If I can get a decent set of how to. The log in on pavilion annex fucking hopeless.I have tried a thousand ways so far. 20 this morning. All and all so far my birthday sucks. John is dead.Damn.
In thunder roars and clashes I listen for then in the night
Of the howling storms.

I am the daughter of the lion and the cold,cold wind that blows
Through my bones rattles a strange tune.

Kafkahead <jmiguelpedras@hotmail.com>
Lisbon, Portugal - Tuesday, January 15 2013 1:24:18

A mistimed update
Hello everyone

First of all, I'd like to send my condolences to Harlan in these times. Seems like every day, we reach into that rugged pouch for another hard suckle on the bitter-angry candy. Let us hope the company of other loved ones can wash off the flavor.

Secondly, I'd like to justify my absence for a while: after having a struggle with depression that seemed to have over the course of two years (during which I annoyed Harlan via phone - sorry, Unca, never meant to stir you in bad way!), I've been finally getting a good foothold on my writing skills once more. Nothing decent's been produced yet - a lot of scraps here and there, mumbled ideas and half-written storylets that might never get a proper ending. But I'm going forward, and thanks to good e-friends, like Samuel Klein and Sandra Odell, I've been keeping a stiff upper lip.

Read my first volume of Zelazny, as well as "Dangerous Visions" - loved 'em both, and I've now acquired a thirst for Bunch that'll be hard to quench. Any advice on what to search for him?

A fellow from Portugal


Paul Hull <vaughnrichards@yahoo.com>
ATX, - Monday, January 14 2013 23:22:20

My commiseration to those who knew Mr. Utley. Not how the year should start.

Shadow, and all, this is the full link. An excellent ten minute intro to a pilot to a series; at least, one I find entertaining.


the Shadow
- Monday, January 14 2013 22:46:15

A terrific piece of writing: "Why America Isn't the Greatest..."
Haven't watched the show yet -- waiting for DVD -- but I stumbled across this bit taken from a show in the first season of "The Newsroom", which was created by Aaron Sorkin, who created, and wrote just a lot of the scripts for, "The West Wing". The extended answer Jeff Daniels's character gives in this bit is something I wish one of our modern politicians had the courage to say:


Ken Davis <Kidnoise@yahoo.com>
South Bend, Indiana - Monday, January 14 2013 20:58:2

Spider-Man ripoff of Mephisto in Onyx
I am frankly amazed at the blatant rip off of Harlan's plot and story elements for "Mephisto in Onyx" in Marvel Comics recent desecration of the Peter Parker character as depicted in the final issue of Amazing Spider-Man.
Is Harlan aware of this blatant instance of intellectual theft of his work? Any thoughts as to legal action?

Michael Rapoport
- Monday, January 14 2013 19:16:0

An update from Miriam Linna of Kicks Books/Norton Records, on the devastation they experienced during Hurricane Sandy and how they're trying to recover. With a few references to Our Host - "Memo From Purgatory," indeed. All Kicks titles are being reprinted as limited "Hurricane Sandy Editions" and will be available for purchase in February, she says.


EU - Monday, January 14 2013 11:6:44

My condolences to the people who knew Steve Utley.

Trailers from Hell: Josh Olson on Straight Time

Blog review of Phoenix Without Ashes

I second Steve Barber's recommendation of Melancholia. And if you need another one, Rise of the Planet of the Apes. (Both on Blu-ray.)

Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
Saugerties, - Monday, January 14 2013 7:44:2

Kindness and Chaos
Friendship is as close as we get to kindness apart from Susan and the love any of us my be fortunate enough to be blessed with.Bad day at black rock. I find with John my dead brother it is the moments I would pick up the phone to call and there is no phone to the bloody grave. Yea, that one almost kills me. All other small sweats evaporate in the face of death and we hold the living we have left tighter and become softened with a new patience.

Frank Church
- Monday, January 14 2013 6:49:15

Steve Utley, you know longer have clouds covering any beam of the sun.

Mark Goldberg <markabaddon@gmail.com>
Minneapolis, - Monday, January 14 2013 5:22:14

My condolences to Harlan, Keeney, and all others who knew Steve Utley. It sounds like he was a good man and will definitiely be missed


Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Sunday, January 13 2013 20:54:6

Sorry, Harlan and everyone else who knew Mr. Utley, for your loss.
May he rest well.

- Sunday, January 13 2013 17:37:58

Condolences to Harlan
HARLAN: Condolences on the loss of your friend, Steve Utley. When putting together the KICK donation package years ago, because it was close to your birthday, a few extra goodies were thrown in the actual envelope. One of them was a drawing, or cartoon (replete with a caption for you) of a trilobite, done on a solid piece of illustration board, which Steve sent along, asking me to forward it. It was such a damn fine piece of work that for a crazy millisecond, the larcenous kid in me wanted to keep it.

Later, because I also like to doodle, I asked Mr. Utley about which materials he used (inks, board and such). Though we didn't really know each other, he kindly took the time to reply with more than enough information.

A talented and kind-hearted guy, for sure.

Warm wishes to you and Susan on this sad day,

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Sunday, January 13 2013 16:7:36

Rape cancer. To say "fuck cancer" does not carry the same weight.



- Sunday, January 13 2013 15:14:25


Called Lisa Tuttle in Scotland to tell her of Steve's condition and she told me he had already died. Went into brain cancer coma one day, gone the next. Another of the really good ones exits the stage.

We were such good friends.


- Sunday, January 13 2013 15:11:13

double bill + 1
home viddying THINGS TO COME (Wade Williams edition from Image Entertainment / Corinth Films), ONE HOUR PHOTO (w&d by Mark Romanek, with Robin Williams & Co.) this weekend

... and very recommending (better late than never) BEGINNERS (w&d by Mike Mills with Christopher Plummer, Ewan McGregor, Mélanie Laurent.

Cheers, Webderlanders!

Steve Barber <thumbnailtraveler@verizon.net>
- Sunday, January 13 2013 13:58:2


MARJORIE - Please try creating a new account for the Forums. The far easiest way, given that both the email address and the "persona" no longer exist. Use a current email and go in as "Marjorie" (or whatever else you may choose).

Probably one or two new blog entries since the last time I was on the Pav...


Went to the Travel and Adventure Show yesterday, and it's really where I need to be. Nigh on 52 is a late age to be determining what I want to be remembered for, but my muse was ever so late to the party.

RICK K - Not to be presumptive, I am certain I speak for everyone here with our sadness at Utley's condition. If given the opportunity, please convey our collective prayers and thoughts to the family.

We've been in a mini-film fest for the last few days, watching the animated RANGO, and several genre things like TORCHWOOD: CHILDREN OF EARTH.

If anyone wants to become seriously depressed at the expense of two quite good -- but depressing -- films, I might recommend the terrific MELANCHOLIA and James Gunn's SUPER.

(Otherwise, please check out SINGIN' IN THE RAIN and FORBIDDEN PLANET for the umpty-umpth time.)

Yep. Just killing time enjoying the weekend.

Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
Saugerties, New York U.S.A. - Sunday, January 13 2013 7:57:2

This dying thing is getting me down
Ah Steve Damn,damn. Can someone help me post on pavilion for I first used a different e-mail address which was jacked and used to steal money by out of country crooks feel it would endanger site to use it and forgot it any way forgot password and am not posting as maggie hoyal my old published name for es husband and nickname maggie. Help would like to click onto Pavilion Annes all tries fail. Help.Steve that Kills our day.

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Sunday, January 13 2013 3:46:54

Steve is a poet...I don't know him...here is a new one Steve...

I am not as old as they,
these women who cringe from me
that cry and manipulate
and dodge my blows.


I am not as old as they,
these ancient females
who cling to my blood
and my force of personality.


I am not as old as they,
who shame me into blood-letting
as they reap the spoils
while goading my rage
and belittling my toil.


I am not as old as they,
and I will never be.

Never be

As I stagger under the fucking load
that they designed
to kill me.

Tim Raven

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.com>
Minneapolis, MN - Saturday, January 12 2013 19:58:14

Steve Utley

Many of us know or know of Steve. Now sources close to him report that he has fallen into a coma due to recently diagnosed late stage brain cancer. Steve has been given only days to live.


the Shadow
- Saturday, January 12 2013 16:34:58

Fuck, fuck, and more fuck
I haven't researched it definitively, Mr. Church -- and with self-publishing on the web being so prevalent it might not be the case anymore -- but at the time he wrote that intro to "The Big Space Fuck", I believe Vonnegut was definitely in a class by himself, title-wise -- we know he was that, writing-wise.

A runner-up might be THE WATER-METHOD MAN by John Irving -- his funniest, most light-hearted novel, but also quite complex in structure -- which features the following chapter title: "Fucking Up". The chapter refers to a film being about the life and times of Fred "Bogus" Trumper by one of his college buddies. If you haven't read it, pick up a copy and prepare to laugh out loud at least once. The structure is "complex" because, along with bouncing between first and third person, Irving uses just about every form of narrative he can, including epistolary (they didn't have email "way back then"), and screenplay forms. In fact, he has the protagonist, Trumper, translate a poem from "Old Low Norse" to English, even though Trumper has no idea what he is doing, and the translation of the poem ("Akthelt and Gunnar") becomes a Monty Python-like mirror of Trumper's own rudderless life and failing relationship -- albeit with Viking-style fervor, of course.

One of my favorite, out-of-left field, comments comes from that book: "Welcome to the vagina".
Also, every time I run into a woman with large breasts and she gets fed up with me, I keep expecting her to flip her tit at me -- something Tulpen, Trumper's new-found love, does everytime she wants to say he's full of shit.

Jordan Owen
Atlanta, GA - Saturday, January 12 2013 16:21:53

The idea shop goes cyberspace...
HE likes to tell ignoramuses that he gets his ideas from an idea shop in upstate New York. Now they've brought their service to the web!



Frank Church
- Saturday, January 12 2013 12:29:59

I'm going to be helpful, which is always a good thing.

Here's a short story the Paris Review published, based on the premise of trying to write a story that could be read aloud in 3 minutes. It aint grand, but I liked it:


Also, a really good William Gibson interview from back in the day, mentioning another writer:


Kurt Vonnegut also once said that he may be the first writer to use term fuck in a title. Is that true?

Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
Saugerties, New York U.S.A. - Saturday, January 12 2013 5:6:29

Lets see crazed fan? Age 12 years slice a wrist or what is that damn book and the cover is as angry obnoxious f__ked up and feaked out at least as I feel. Never could resist a good book. Read the cereal box if theres nothing else in the house to read which never happens. Read the book. What was under my arm when I slammed the door on insane and walked half way to St.Augestine Florida from Jacksonville during the riots. Shots firing, rocks flying bad day all around but it was the pig farmer I really thought would kill me.Crazed fan.Too old to be a fan of anyone but a 34 year old young woman who happens to be my daughter. Kiersten Ellen Hoyal. But Harlan is a book friend that saved my life. Thats not nothing. Otherwise don"t have the pleasure of knowing the Man but that Ft. Lauderdale writers workshop years ago.

- Saturday, January 12 2013 4:27:19

My favorite phrase: absolute truth #112
"I'd prefer not to." From "Bartleby the Scrivener"

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Saturday, January 12 2013 2:12:50

More truths

Absolute civilized truths:

“A pinch is precious, too much is poison.”

“Schrödinger’s cat contemplates the mystery of lies.”

“We choose to do things because they feel right; we prefer feels right over wisdom.”

“Time forces everything to change. When we reach perfection what happens when time compels us to change yet again?”

“The Lion will see tears on Tuesday.”

Tim Raven

oz - Friday, January 11 2013 16:33:20

A SIGN From Harlan
HARLAN: Out for the usual Sat. morning stroll with my buddy, Irving, lugging a backpack full of mail and dog food, carefully carrying two cups o' joe back to the girls in a nifty cavass carrier (supplied by my local monger), heading through the small wooded area just before our house, when, having just crossed the wooden bridge over a stream...a white rabbit crossed our path.

Not a "roo" or a "kanga".
Not an emu or an echidna.
Not a platypus or kookaburra.

A white rabbit.
Pink eyes, but no pocket watch (or pockets for that matter). We let it hop along on its merry way, back into the bush, nibbling grass, nose twitching furiously.
Figuring it was a sign from god, or God, or, er, um, whoever is in charge...I decided to drop by and say hello.

A big, "Howya goin'?" to you and The Electric Goddess!
With undying fealty and much love,
cheers from oz,

Robert Morales
New York City, New York - Friday, January 11 2013 16:11:11

Ennio Morricone
has an official YouTube channel:


& this is my current favorite among his compositions:


Tony Ravenscroft
Crookston, South Canuckistan - Thursday, January 10 2013 22:35:31

Been keeping attention but it's been too long since anything meaningful to add. Heavens but I'm thankful for y'all, even the few I've met actually in person (heya Tollins, still owe you that Scotch, etc.).

But, to be brief. Unca Harlan: have a look at a Brit series called SPY. The titular star, Darren Boyd, is amasing... but if Robert Lindsay as The Examiner doesn't cause at least your hernia to twitch, well... then I'll pretend I have never read _Seeing_.

Kisses, ta -- another day, another doctor.

Yrs, etc.

Chuck Messer
- Thursday, January 10 2013 20:2:24

Marjorie: Go get 'em, Tigress! I hope you teach them a lesson. Thieves.


Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
Saugerties, New York U.S.A. - Thursday, January 10 2013 18:23:24

The darker the night the brighter the stars
If you fish in some parts of the south you light a stick of dynamite toss it into the pond the fish rise up to the top of the water stunned. Harlan I was stunned you responded and in three lines I have all I need to fight this.Win or lose I know now what to do.Thanks.To small a word. No words. Marjorie Patterson

- Thursday, January 10 2013 11:55:58

They, meaning Disney. Runz.

Frank Church
- Thursday, January 10 2013 11:54:50

I see no evidence that evil teens all cannot wait to rip off every artist who crawls the flora and fauna. What they want are things faster, as is the want of a digital culture--good and bad in this realm. Sites that stream songs for a fee are doing good and bands sell cds. I do agree that education is a big problem. Kids do not know how they hurt smaller artists.

You all know my stance on the biggies. Ripping them off is fun.

Breaking Disney's knees is like breaking the knees of a southern sherriff in the 50s. Small artists are on the plantation, they are the massas.

Diane Bartels <dianebartels99 @comcast.net>
Merrionette Park, IL - Thursday, January 10 2013 5:18:30

Happy Birthday Josh Olsen and through deduction Jimmy from Chicago(formerly?)

Harlan, you are wise and kind.

Susan, are you over the Martian Death Flu? Hope you are feeling lots better.

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
- Thursday, January 10 2013 0:5:16

Josh Olson
Just wanted to wish some very Happy Birthday wishes to Mr Josh Olson. Happy Birthday!

from your birthday twin,

- Wednesday, January 9 2013 18:46:18

Just a bit of Morricone trivia, one of his lesser known scores was a haunting fugue in an Italian horror with Barbara Steele called Nightmare Castle.

Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Wednesday, January 9 2013 13:33:34

Small Claims
I also have found small claims court to be a good resource. I paid the extra dough to have an armed marshal deliver the petition (in my case to a money-man vacationing at a spa -- got his attention; got a quick settlement).

EU - Wednesday, January 9 2013 13:32:25

On critics, on copryright, on Morricone
Unlike Steve, I think of being a critic as an honorable profession that needs no apologies. The only problem is that it's even easier to call oneself a critic than it is to call oneself a writer, especially nowadays when the internet provides "critics" a free platform. Everyone can react to something and perhaps string a few sentences together about how the film/book/story makes them feel. A lot of critics are just reviewers, basically.

Steve seems hesitant to stress that a lot of great writers have been critics as well, a German example being Goethe. Critics are needed. In order for an art form to evolve and for art to reach its audience and fully perform its function, works of art need to be thought about and discussed -- partly in public, with people who know something about the art form in question taking the first step.

For those who don't appreciate the profession: Just try to imagine you knew of an honest, informed and highly intelligent true critic you could trust and imagine how he or she would turn you on to amazing things you hadn't even heard of, maybe even bring something to your attention in something you already knew but hadn't looked at the right way, and save you a whole lot of time and money in other cases.

The fact that even good critics don't always succeed in winning our trust or in being informed or honest, and that they tend to violate our trust with an occasional mistake or uncontrolled bias shows how difficlt the job is, if taken seriously -- the way it was taken seriously by Harlan during his criticism periods.
Regarding the protection of intellectual property, the creators will always be in the minority, and there's a large majority out there who wants things instantly and for free. In fact, a large part of the younger people grew up thinking that's the way it's supposed to be, and it will be very hard to convince them otherwise. But the blame should never be placed on them but on our governments and companies, on schools and parents who don't educate, and on creators who don't fight back.
Regarding Harlan's listening habits, I believe he mentioned listening a lot to the Four Flies on Grey Velvet soundtrack while writing (not rewriting). He also said he wrote liner notes for at least two American releases. Thank God he has me to repeat things for him, wrong or right.
Morricone has such a range that two people rarely talk about the same one, as is the case with many good artists. He will certainly be remembered and discovered for a long time to come.

- Wednesday, January 9 2013 12:34:47


Small claims court. Has worked for me with rank amateurs and multi-million dollar publishing giants. Get your paperwork in order, and file for a few dollars, and go for your state's maximum. By law, they cannot be representted save but by themselves. No attorneys. Serve it in your venue, so it'll cost them to come defend. I have won countless times.

Best advice from here, knowing spottily what you've conveyed.

Yr. pal, Harlan

driftglass <driftglass99@gmail.com>
Cornfieldia, IL - Wednesday, January 9 2013 11:0:27

Dr. Who's new Companion
Takes a sudden, dark turn :-)


jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Wednesday, January 9 2013 0:6:11

Reply to Frank Church
I share in your admiration of the weirder side of Morricone. I haven't listened to 500 albums so I'm sure that I've missed out on some of the best stuff. But even something as classic as THE GOOD AND THE BAD AND THE UGLY is, when you get down to it, just pretty fucking weird. Just the choices for the instruments alone deserves a 'bugfuck'. Never get tired of listening to him though.



Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
Saugerties, New York U.S.A. - Tuesday, January 8 2013 21:1:0

21 years of age I sold the beginning of a Novel to Ellen Bass for Thirty-five dollars and on a hand shake without reading the contract it was for one time printing rights. It has been re-printed countless times and for bucko dollars. I have not received a penny more nor was I asked for further permissions. So much for the trust there but I was an idiot. I learned too late what I should have known.Trust no one when it comes to money. It is bitter but I love it for it is my heart. Worn through my fools shoes early. Still. There is no still. It still hurts I did it to myself.A part was reprinted in People mag. I was not asked or informed about it. Had to hear about it from a sister-in-law. I would never have allowed them to reprint the section they did at all. The final injury is I can Not legally use the beginning of my own novel to finish the novel with. I am writing around it. Ahh. Deep breaths for I have sat on this one for awhile in perplexity of what to do if anything can be done. I hate being lied to and I hate being used. The money would be nice to.Can anyone out there help with advice. To much to think Harlan would take an interest. He has bigger fish to fry. I never told anyone is the Anthology and Maggie Hoyal is my published name at that time for ex-husband. I grew up and out of maggie long ago and use my given name. Billie Holiday was in it and others. Ellen Bass and Louise Thornton co edited. Co profited.HELP. At least speaking of it here I know people don't condone ripped off and aften know tools for doing something about it.

Frank Church
- Tuesday, January 8 2013 11:5:32

Jimmy, you didn't ask me but I really prefer Morricone's weirder stuff. His quaint stuff is ok, but his bizarre stuff is really brilliant, especially his use of rock music with movie music.

The vocal stuff I'm not big on, but I accept it, because that is Morricone. He has so many albums available that everybody can find something to dive into. Some amazing number like 500 albums. Does he sleep?

Steve Perry <perry1966@comcast.net>
Beaverton, OR - Tuesday, January 8 2013 9:45:16

Another Can of Worms
The Internet Archive, oh, yeah, what a great can of worms. They bill themselves as a library, are non-profit, and as such, claim they can offer their work in the same way that your neighborhood library -- the one that closed down for lack of funding -- does.

The site says they've been up since 1996, and if that's the case, they must have some kind of legal leg upon which to stand. In the U.S., libraries are not required to pay creators for the work they lend out. Electronically-speaking, borrowers don't have to return the files, so I wonder how that computes with "lending."

As I recall, there was a guy in Florida who tried that with back issues of comics, claiming library status, but that didn't work out so well for him.

As it happens, I came across a note on Facebook pointing out the Omni-is-up note just this morning. If they are asking contributors if it is all right, then it's a surprise to me. I have to go all the way back to 1982 for my one short story in the Gooch's 'zine, and they didn't say a word in my direction.


- Tuesday, January 8 2013 7:13:10

OMNI, Digital Rights, and Voodoo
The Internet Archive has online, for free and in multiple electronic formats, the entire run of OMNI magazine.

Well, ALMOST the entire run. It appears that the eight regular issues that feature content by Harlan Ellison have been excluded.

Statistical anomaly? Already taken down by Harlan's legal eagle? Preemptively done by IA to avoid an eagle strike? Hard to say, given that the BEST OF issues are still there, including BEST OF Volume 6, with its lengthy Harlan Ellison appreciation section that reprints three stories. Someone, somewhere left a "t" uncrossed.

Anyway - while I get that the OMNI thing is poorly scanned bootleg, distributed without (one presumes) the involvement of General Media, Inc., the question for me - and I'll pose it to the guy with several decades under his belt writing for magazines - is this:

HARLAN - In your experience, are publishers reaching out to you when they decide to produce and sell a digitization that includes work you sold to them 20, 30, 40 years ago? For example, Playboy is now offering for sale a hard drive containing every issue through 2010 as pre-loaded electronic files; did Playboy come back at some point and purchase electronic rights for the work that appeared in the print edition? Or do you find more often that magazine publishers are rolling forward under the "better to ask forgiveness than permission" principle, gaming that very few writers will incur the cost and effort to go after them legally for a payment?

Just curious. And Grandma encouraged us, when curious, to ask someone who knows.

I hope everyone is well at Ellison Wonderland. (Hi Susan!)


Meanwhile, I continue running the medical gauntlet today in an effort to better identify the mystery abdominal pain, now a couple of months old. Three doctor appointments in the next four days. It's probably Steve Barber. I suspect he's a functioning practitioner of the voodoo arts. I should have known he was up to doll mischief when he asked for fingernail trimmings. "I make jewelry out of them." I was such a fool…

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Tuesday, January 8 2013 3:4:11

Tony Isabella's Bloggy Thing
I rarely mention my nigh-daily blog here, but I thought today's installment turned out rather well:


Mikey Hasselhoff
- Tuesday, January 8 2013 1:8:17

Read it. It's loaded with typos. Potato Man ain't a writer.

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Monday, January 7 2013 22:17:4

Questions for Harlan Ellison®

What scores did you most often listen to? Do you still have the tricked out stereo system?

Have you ever written a story in response to, or inspiration from, a piece music?

querulous curious and confoozledly yours,


Paul Hull <vaughnrichards@yahoo.com>
ATX, - Monday, January 7 2013 22:0:7


"If Harlan listens to music while proofreading a manuscript, what sounds strike HIM as most sympatico with his words? "

I don't know about proofreading, but I remember him writing in the AN EDGE IN MY VOICE columns that when he was deep into whatever world he was writing, he listened to Ennio Morricone. But HE is large, and contains multitudes, so I imagine there are many a tune he whiled the time and platen away with.

That is so not a sentence and I'm sticking to it.

Don Hilliard <dbhilliard@peak.org>
Bayshore, OR - Monday, January 7 2013 19:44:4

JAN: You are a gentleman, and any past friction was as much my fault as yours. In the old schoolboy phrase, "make it Pax."

Victoria, BC - Monday, January 7 2013 18:58:8

Thank you Susan!
Dearest sweet Susan,

Many thanks for updating my address and sending along Rabbit Hole #52 (I was delighted to receive it last week). Thank you also for the nifty inclusions! Even when plagued by the Martian Death Flu, you still exude kindness and thoughtfulness. It is always such a joy to open mail from you. My best wishes to you and Harlan - boy do you kids keep yourselves busy!!


Brian D. <bricdoan@gmail.com>
Oberlin, OH - Monday, January 7 2013 17:57:23

Greg Pak Praises Harlan's Hulk
Harlan, don't know if you know of Greg Pak (a really wonderful comics scribe), but he had a piece on Entertainment Weekly's site today talking about his favorite Hulk covers, and chose one of yours-- Hulk #140. Here's the link:


If the link doesn't work, this is what he says about "The Brute That Shouted Love At the Heart of the Atom":

"As a kid, I was a massive Harlan Ellison fan, and when I heard he'd written a few Marvel books, I biked down to the comics shop and ponied up an unheard of five dollars for my own copy of this vintage issue. Years later, I referenced this classic story of Hulk's exile to the world of the green-skinned princess Jarella multiple times in my own Hulk run. Herb Trimpe does great work here, as always. I've always loved his chunky Hulk and clean lines. Also: More crumbling stone!"

- Monday, January 7 2013 17:34:30

Either my cortex took some damage recently or a rare moment of genuinely good comic timing drew my chuckles to a Lost In Space episode over the weekend; Jonathan Harris all hippied-out, gettin'down and a blurtin' "I'm freaky, man! R-e-e-e-e-e-e-allll freaky!"

Not having been able to watch those shows through as a rule, I'm afraid Harris was utterly hilarious here! I stuck around this time!


On the reading front: I've been, of late, intensely inspired by O. Henry, Roald Dahl, and James Thurber.

Dave Martens
Bone You On The Tollways, IL - Monday, January 7 2013 17:5:47

Instant Potatoes / word association

I observe from afar that the "Potato Weather Man" is prolific on his blog, but his is already a less fascinating "life story" than Mr. Ellison's (where a young man really got out there and into the world before the Internet Age).

I believe Mitchell's kind of cardboard; he couldn't even get HE's birth year correct on a silly graphic. Is he a teacher who asks his students to do their homework? He also seems to be an age bigot, whom I'd normally avoid. His blog reminded me that I do need a new potato peeler, however...

Frank Church
- Monday, January 7 2013 15:0:24

I will confess that I have not read everything Harlan. I read Shatterday, Strange Wine, Love Aint Nothing, The Glass Titties, Harlan's Watching, Edge In My Voice, several scattered stories, all the essays which really attracted me to Harlan--him in his shades, looking cool, ready to throttle a Republican at a glance. My kind of dude.


We need to lighten up, so here is Prince hosting the Muppet Show--yea, he did actually host the Muppet show, which for a fan was a rare lightening up of his assholiness:


Chuck Messer <chuck_messer@hotmail.com>
Lakewood, Colorao - Monday, January 7 2013 14:31:22

I've just been reading Harlan's introduction to HARLAN ELLISON'S WATCHING, which lays out, in detail, what it really takes to be an effective critic, and not just one who spouts opinions like a lawn sprinkler. Very educational. Not to mention edifying.


Los Angeles, - Monday, January 7 2013 13:3:1

APPROACHING OBLIVION was my very first exposure to Harlan. I was a mild mannered kid in the '70's, humming along quite nicely in the conservative, religious community and household I was a part of. The occasional "qirk" and "hmf" could occasionally be heard as my mental machinery, evolving into its own, scraped up against the alabaster walls of society.

Then, one day in the Snowflake High School library's expansive SF section, while looking for a diversion from Mr. Coltrin's geography class, my index finger felt along the author names on the book spines until it hit upon the letter "E." And of course, the librarian, a lovely old woman I came to know well, had ordered the books by author name AND title. Approaching Oblivion by some guy I'd never heard of named Harlan Ellison it was.

I read the introduction, the most in-your-face piece of writing I'd ever read, then began with Knox.

Didn't sleep that night.

And I don't think I'm alone with this particular "first," either. In fact, I imagine I'm one of thousands. And THAT is the only answer the writer of that review Jan referenced deserves.

Approaching o

John E. Williama
- Monday, January 7 2013 13:1:9

Those Crazy Star Wars
Excerpts from 1977 letters from Alec Guiness to Anne Kaufman concerning a gig he just landed, some 'fairytale rubbish' called STAR WARS.


Check out the second letter, in which he tries to remember the name of the actor playing Han Solo. He comes up with one variation that should amuse the denizens of this particular internet hangout.

Los Angeles, - Monday, January 7 2013 12:55:37


Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo!>
Muddyapolis, MN - Monday, January 7 2013 12:33:47

Bad idea, old son. As you and I both know that deep fried foods are bad for the wolf.

Steve Perry <Perry1966@comcast.net>
Beaverton, OR - Monday, January 7 2013 11:11:8

Scratch a Critic, Find an Assassin -Liza Minelli, The Muppet Show
I am reminded of Charlton Heston, being interviewed by Johnny Carson. Heston told the story of how he and Sir Laurence Olivier were in a Broadway play that got panned. Next morning, Heston says to Olivier, "Oh, well, I guess you just have to ignore the bad reviews, hey, Larry?"

"No, dear boy," Olivier said, "you must ignore them all."

This is great advice, but harder than it sounds. If you spend an appreciable amount of time creating something from scratch and it gets lambasted by somebody who has no clue of what the work took, you can shrug and consider the source: Those who can't do or teach become critics. That kid on Amazon.com? The one who doesn't know that "your" and "you're" have different meanings?

Consider the source.

Who cares what the weak-minded think? You obviously weren't the droids for whom they were looking.

However: If you are a writer and a reader misses your point, chances are you will ask yourself questions: Was it me? Did I not tell it right? Was it them? Would they have missed it no matter what I wrote? Some combination of the two? Part of the job that even us hacks must do.

Then again, it is better to be the world's worst artist than the world's best critic. A full-time critic never starts with an empty plate, they must feast on somebody else's work or not at all.

And to keep the food metaphor going, I generally feel that most critics should be rolled in corn meal and deep-fat fried, then fed to the wolves. (Although, please note that a critic and a reviewer are not always the same creature.)

There are exceptions to this offhand dismissal, such as Mark Twain's rounding on Fenimore Cooper. When somebody who is a better writer critiques a fellow, it's harder to wave off. Especially in Twain's case, since it produced his rules of writing, which are still valid, by the by, and also happens to be one of the most wicked and funniest pieces of writing in the English language. Twain could, on a bad day, with a leaky pen, write circles around Cooper.

If you don the rhino-hide armor necessary to avoid feeling the slings and arrows of those who look down their noses and critique your work, then you are apt to be too heavy and insulated to feel what you must to tell your stories well. Being, as Paul Simon says, a rock and an island keeps the pain away. Thing is, writers have to bleed onto the page now and then.


JOE WEHRLE, JR. <wehrle1@verizon.net>
Punxsutawney, PA - Monday, January 7 2013 10:51:50

Speaking of odd things people say about Harlan and his work, something called fictioncircus.com said, "Harlan Ellison has written 30 novels and over 15,000 short stories." We all know Harlan writes better and faster than most of us, but.....are there a couple of dozen novels hidden up in the gargoyles??

The connection between music and literature is probably a subjective thing. I guess a case can be made for Dave Brubeck's work following the rhythm of Harlan's prose. "Take Five" was written by Paul Desmond, of course, not Brubeck, but he probably composed it with Dave's unusual time signatures in mind. I see Eric Dolphy's avant garde alto playing having more in common with Harlan's writing. Listen to "Loss" on STOCKHOLM SESSIONS. Eric died in Europe, much too young. The real test, though: If Harlan listens to music while proofreading a manuscript, what sounds strike HIM as most sympatico with his words?

I just read that they believe there are 100 billion alien planets in our galaxy. And remember the title of one of Brian Aldiss' collections, GALAXIES LIKE GRAINS OF SAND? Such an infinite vastness of existence makes me more and more skeptical of my 7th grade teacher's assertion that my class pictures came out looking goofy because her God was furious at me for forgetting to wear a sport jacket to school on photo day. I KNOW who was furious.

There are strange, widespread tracks in the snow outside. I think a deer may have wandered down the hill and cut across my back yard. It's wonderful to live in such rusticity, and still be within walking distance of the post office.

Ken 'Owes <kenkennyrh@aol.com>
Sunderland, UK - Monday, January 7 2013 9:13:11

With regard to the discussed negative review, I could never understand why anybody gets uptight or ecstatatic about a review negative or positive.

Whilst Harlan's reaction is sensible and reasoned, let's be honest, being a critic/reviewer ain't exactly a Grade-a occupation is it ??

It's an opinion - nothin' more or less. If I ground my teeth at every negative thing said about many books or films that I adore then I'd be in permanent dental care.

You see them all on TV. Art critics, food critics, lifestyle critics. Opinionated bastards all but could you give a toss about their judgements ??

We have this great guy in the UK, never off the bloody air, by the name of Brian Sewell. A bigger boorish snob you have yet to witness who uses his art critic status to spout upper crust elitism on all topics ranging from "common people" to "the questionable ingredients of the Cornish Pastie."

You build it, I'll take it to pieces. Gawd it's not even a worthwhile hobby.

When I'm King of the Universe he will be submerged in his own bile and then shot. Summarily followed by the rest of his ilk.

No, I likes what I likes and th . . th . . that's all folks !!

Looking for a dead-eye sniper coach, Yer matey blokey 'Owes

Marjorie Louise Patterson <marjor82luck@gmail.com>
Saugerties, New York U.S.A. - Monday, January 7 2013 2:26:16

Without Harlans writing I never would have lived through these last months. One brother thirty years dead with a bullet through his head one just of a sudden dead. There are no more brothers. Long nights with sleep flying ahead of me out of reach. Lots of writing. Lots of black thoughts relieved by Harlans' books. I hold on to those and dig through old black and white photos to make albums for for his children. There children some day. Have not been here in awhile. My computer was hacked and guy begged money in my name for a trip home from England. Never been and I don't take money. It soured me for awhile on computers. Missed this not that anyone is up

EU - Monday, January 7 2013 1:14:41

Here I am trying to ruin Harlan's week, and he calls it an act of affection. Oh well, I just gotta keep trying harder. (Or is it someone else's turn?) For the record, I took no offense at any of notifications of trespassing and can see both sides.
Now that Harlan did see it, anyone in the mood for discussing what is becoming of the art of reviewing?
Don't know what Don is on about - I can't claim not to be fond of him. My memory is weak and I'm sure I was wrong. One of Frank's redeeming qualities is his sense of humor and I like that he thinks of me as a perfect aryan despite my painfully obvious genetic defects.
Gotta go.

Don Hilliard <dbhilliard@peak.org>
Bayshore, OR - Sunday, January 6 2013 17:39:46

CHUCK/PHIL: Aubrey actually lives on in fiction to this day, apparently. On his return to DC Comics in the early '70s, Jack Kirby wrote a subplot into SUPERMAN'S PAL, JIMMY OLSEN with a nasty TV exec, Morgan Edge (nicknamed "The Smiling Cobra",) buying out the DAILY PLANET...on behalf of a techno-mafia called Intergang (ultimately the tools of Darkseid of Apokolips.)

One suspects this wasn't only inspired by Aubrey himself, but also as a subtle swipe at National/DC's management, who (along with their parent Kinney Services) were widely suspected/known to be mobbed up.

(Later non-Kirby stories revealed Edge to be an evil clone of the real thing - who wasn't much nicer. One quietly brilliant back-up story in the '70s established that the 'real' Morgan Edge was Morris Edelstein, who'd won his broadcasting empire in a poker game and changed his name to fit in. First inkling I, as a slightly sheltered WASP kid, had of the concept of "passing".)

CHURCH: Perusal of the archives will reveal that Jan and I are not fond of each other...but the "aryan" crack was way below the belt.

- Sunday, January 6 2013 14:28:3

My dear, Dear Aficienados:

First, and foremost, Jan is an unquestioned, many-times-proven friend. He keeps me apprised of my perceived status beyond these walls. His value to me is immeasurable. Thus, I attach no more malevolence to his posting of that silly fanboy review than I do to the calling of information from bird to bird in a benign covey. I'm not chiding anyone for suggesting that his doing the correct thing might possibly result in my bruised feelings, because that is just one more act of affection, as was Jan's. I will not sigh and admit that forty years beyond the publication of a book, awards the stories have won, reprinted 26 times (If I recall correctly) including eight in the SF Book Club)(and in six languages) causes me a moment's frisson of exasperation, the sheer adolescence and ignorance of the review, such as it purports to bear relationship to mature racionative analysis, but I will say that the reading of the put-down did no lasting malignity to my soul. There are those who cannot read Thomas Hardy, one of my favorites. Their "late in the day" book reports, handed in based on rumor and Cliff's Notes do not, I'm fairly certain, tarnish Hardy's rep nor cause
his fans any sleepless nights. THE MAYOR OF CASTERBRIDGE remains enthralling, to those who merely give it a chance.

Worry you not, my staunchest: as the creator of Charlie Chan has written, "In every lifetime each man must wear out one pair of fool's shoes."

I'm working on mine, the kid who did that review is working on his, but in no way is Jan less than peerless.

I will survive. Yr. Pal, Harlan
------------------------------------------------------------------We just spoke with Kathleen David in Epcot Tokyo. Peter walked today; left foot, right foot, left foot, right foot...
and he's soon to be moved to a supermax high-quality neuro facility in Jacksonville. It may not be the brightest day of the season, but it's a better day than the previous one.

driftglass <driftglass99@gmail.com>
Cornfieldylvania, IL - Sunday, January 6 2013 12:27:48

When visiting a friend's kitchen
its shouldn't kill you to bring some fresh bagniatte and decent coffee.

Since that is not locally available, how about a nice website?
"This Day In Science Fiction" -- a journal of that which was supposed to have happened by this day in history.

A friend of mine shared it with me and I thought it was kinda cool.


Best regards, citizens, and my ongoing respect and admiration to our kind and wise hosts.

the Shadow
- Sunday, January 6 2013 12:19:32

Quick note, before self-exile
Just a quick note before self-exile -- because of too many posts in a short period -- because it should be noted, if anyone, as did Frank Church, mistakes my notes as shrill or angry or over-excited. I was merely wanting to reiterate, because I believed Jan may have misunderstood. And, for what it's worth, I don't believe James Levy's posts were made in an over-heated moment, either.

So Mr. Church, no need for a calming voice.
And, in truth, no need for anymore words on the matter of the link -- just wanted to make sure no one's feather's were ruffled or that feelings hurt over something that has no literary or critical value whatsoever.

Frank Church
- Sunday, January 6 2013 11:20:24

Calm down guys, Jan made a mistake, he posted something he shouldn't have, that was a mistake on his part, but he didn't mean it in a bad way. Obviously Jan loves Harlan more than some. He's not even mad at Harlan for his stance against visiting Germany.

Jan is of fine aryan stock. He bruises easy.

glad I never make mistakes. Runz.

James Levy <susjpl@hofstra.edu>
Syosset, New York - Sunday, January 6 2013 7:54:58

To Jan

Thanks, Shadow, for articulating my position most clearly.

Jan, intellectually, I'm with you--the discourse surrounding Harlan Ellison is part of the story, part of the legacy, of his art. But this is Harlan's "kitchen", and when you're in a man or woman's kitchen, well, you don't highlight the nasty, ignorant, things people say about them. There is a difference between discussing an informed review that explicates the strengths and weaknesses of an Ellison work and bringing up dismissive, gossipy crap that somebody chose to write about your host.

This is an issue of manners, not rights. I'd never say you shouldn't post something, but I can question it as a matter of etiquette.

Matthew Davis
Redditch, - Sunday, January 6 2013 7:48:30

Recently there seems to be a move to archiving old sf fan activity and fanzines online. This means that various contributions and odds and ends by Ellison have found their way online:

1974 letter from Ellison about fan response to ADV – issue also includes lengthy review of ADV by Richard Delap

Starlog September 1977 – interview with Ellison

in Khatru – journal of feminist sf fans:

Statement of Ethical Position

letters in reply to Ellison and his comments on those letters

Lots of Bull Rotsler’s fanzines include discussion and anecdotes of his friendship with Ellison:

the Shadow
- Sunday, January 6 2013 5:51:0

reply to Jan
hey, Jan, I think if you read James's note more carefully, you'll see he was agreeing with what everyone else believes. To wit: that the article you linked to isn't what he, James Levy, would call a book review. And that it is, indeed, a hatchet job. That said, if you think it should stay, it IS your post, so more power to ya.

Cologne - Sunday, January 6 2013 2:55:55

I didn't have the expectation that a negative review of something we like would make people ecstatic, but it is there, on one of the more well-known SF websites. We can pretend it isn't there, or we can be adults, take a passing note of its existence and move on. I made it clear who I posted the link for. A general call to ignore it does not accord with my understanding of what we are doing here or meant to be doing here. To my mind, a negative review of Approaching Oblivion, a book that contains some of Harlan's most memorable stories, is by definition a product of ignorance and stupidity - what else did anyone expect? The review is excellent proof of several points Harlan made inside the book and outside of it. That's reason enough for me to mention it. I'm certainly not interested in it as a book review.
I agree with James' characterization of it and don't see it as a "hit job". It's a lazy review by someone who just doesn't get it, and it provides enough hints as to the reasons. I hope I'm not the only one interested in society and Harlan's role in it. Reactions to his works and statements are things we should be very interested in.
So while I did not post the link for Harlan (and think he's very preoccupied with other matters such as his friend's health), I saw no reason to make a secret of it either. A link is not the thing itself. Negative reviews are a grey area. While I share people's concern for Harlan's feelings, if we hide things from him, we should have good reasons and not just lightly make a habit of it. If I were him, I wouldn't want to think my friends are shielding me from reality. From pure hit jobs, yes. From telling public reactions to things he's created, no.

- Saturday, January 5 2013 23:25:53

Zeroing in on our nation's crazy military budget
ALL: I've been avoiding political discussions ('cause they usually go no where), but wanted to share this link, in case it gets overlooked. I'm thrilled to read an article that zeroes in on the thing I've been complaining (in vain) about for a long, long time: Military spending in the USA. (And the mindset that has brought us to such crazy spending likely explains the crazy proliferation of guns in the USA, too). 'Course it always comes down to, "Is anyone listening? (Or, perhaps, are enough _stable_ minds listening?).


shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Saturday, January 5 2013 23:0:22

JIM H.: I definitely agree with you about "Take Five" as a twin of a different medium to Harlan's writings, though I can't speak to any of the others. It brings to mind some of the lighter pieces, "Djinn, No Chaser", "RJSTT", "The Pitll Pawob Division", and others.

(fellow fan of the Dave Brubeck Quartet)

Alejandro Riera
CHICAGO, Il - Saturday, January 5 2013 17:42:44


Good news on Broadchurch being picked up by BBC America…But, we actually don't have to wait that long to see Tennant on our small screens since BBC America will be broadcasting "The Spies of Warsaw" in February.

(Oh, and BTW, "Broadchurch" gives Doctor Who fans another treat in the casting of Arthur "Rory Pond" Darvill in a supporting role. Oh, wait, and Olivia Colman, who briefly appeared on "The Eleventh Hour" as an alien disguised as a human stars in it as well.)


Jim Hess
Colorado - Saturday, January 5 2013 17:18:16

The music of Dave Brubeck
Explicit quantification defies me, and therefore leaves me deficient in reasoning and logic for why I think why I do, and what I do: Specifically, how it is the music of Dave Brubeck fits the rhythms and beats of much of Harlan Ellison’s writing – “Unsquare Dance”, “Bossa Nova U.S.A.”, “Blue Ronda A La Turk”, and “Take Five”, just to name a few more notable and known examples.

Maybe my assessments and conclusions derive from being smacked in the head by an irate wild goose one time too many, or maybe there is something to my opinion. So, dare I ask: Thoughts, opinions, on what I have suggested, or should I be dragged by the very sensitive part of the ear to the door and forever banned from these premises for such remarks?

Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Saturday, January 5 2013 17:16:41

Tennant Series
For those of us who have missed the previous Dr. Who, David Tennant... BBC America has picked up his next series:


Chuck Messer
- Saturday, January 5 2013 17:15:4

The Smiling Cobra was also mentioned in The Twilight Zone Companion as Rod Serling's nemesis. The Zone just wasn't Lowest Common Denominator enough for Aubrey. Serling's ability to keep the show on the air for a couple more years was damn near superhuman.


Steve Barber <Thumbnailtraveler@Verizon.net>
- Saturday, January 5 2013 15:44:3

Goan Speelunkin'

HARLAN - The color printer is still on the fritz, which is why you haven't gotten the printouts we discussed. Looks like we should get it back on the 8th.

Happy New Year if I've been remiss. 2013 is already shaping up to be a year in transition for Casa Peluquero.

First we started a complete clean out of the garage, something a few years over due. Found some major treasures (a Bible Cris' father gave to HIS father in 1944; a box of family photographs; two full boxes of licorice pizzas; etc).

Also located, three boxes of comic books I had long thought disposed of. EBay sorts of things -- with some complete collections of minseries and other titles (Vigilante through issue #50; a complete set of the large edition WHO'S WHO of the DC universe; the original CRISIS miniseries; also, etc) and a complete set of FUTURE/FUTURE LIFE magazines, with Unca Harlan's column and Asimov's recently alluded-to predictions of the Internet.

I also found a pretty good painting I'd done some fifteen years ago, and probably the only existing copy of my attempt at a novel, twenty years old. (The world, it seems, felt one was more than enough.)

Our roommate/guest is moving out today. 142 days after coming to live with us for a month.

And lastly, our favorite restaurant is closed. Our friends' Italian place in Burbank (originally Hollywood) closed last evening. HARLAN, SUSAN -- This was the source of the wonderful buttersquash ravioli and lasagna we have enjoyed a few times.

HARLAN and everyone else:ignore the supposed review Jan links to below. It's the run-of-the-mill "I've never read Ellison, and will give you twenty reasons I haven't got a clue, I'm just being cool by dissing on the guy" hit job. It's not even really directed at Harlan's actual work, just an attempt at being a cool person by jumping on a very old and tired bandwagon with a horse long turned to glue.

the Shadow
- Saturday, January 5 2013 14:35:46

note to Jan about the negative Ellison review
hey Jan, I know Mr. Ellison is tough as nails, but even the toughest of us have feelings, and since the majority of those who post here regularly know he has his share of detractors, I can't help but wonder why you'd want to post a link to this review, especially since you two are friends. The review was written by someone who obviously knew about Ellison, and likely already read his work and had a chip on his shoulder. Which is to say, it reads less like a review and more like a fanboy attempt to stir something up and get some attention.

Lori Koonce <purplelynn35@gmail.com>
San Francisco, California - Saturday, January 5 2013 12:57:44

Happy New Year
I want to wish one and all the best that the new year has to offer!

I'm one of the lurkers, not posting often but always here. I won't name names; lest I forget someone and offend them. But you guys and gals are one of the best reasons this depressive has for getting outta bed most days.

Lori Koonce <purplelynn35@gmail.com>
San Francisco, California - Saturday, January 5 2013 12:57:43

Happy New Year
I want to wish one and all the best that the new year has to offer!

I'm one of the lurkers, not posting often but always here. I won't name names; lest I forget someone and offend them. But you guys and gals are one of the best reasons this depressive has for getting outta bed most days.

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Saturday, January 5 2013 10:9:35

Passing mention

Apologies if this has been posted before (I don't think it has):

Steven Bowie's terrific CLASSIC TV HISTORY blog makes a passing mention of Harlan in a piece about TV executive James T. Aubrey, who was apparently known as "the smiling cobra":


Iain Aitken <reddragon70@aol.com>
Dumfries, Scotland - Saturday, January 5 2013 8:19:58

Fame at last (well not quite...)
Today brought me a lovely surprise when I got home from work. It makes a change from the usual demanding letters from my soon to be ex-wifes lawyer.

February's edition of Playboy. And in the Dear Playboy, the email I sent them regarding the October issue's feature on archery.

They published it!! Either I made some kind of valid points, or it was just a slow mail month for them.

In any case I am pretty pleased with myself.

All the best


James Levy <susjpl@hofstra.edu>
Syosset, New York - Saturday, January 5 2013 8:1:49

What a crappy book review

One of the little perquisites of my job as an academic is that I get to review books in various journals from time to time. I'm good at it and I enjoy it, and since I never do a hatch job on anyone and always get the review in on time, editors indulge me with assignments. So I can say with some authority that the review of Approaching Oblivion linked below is arrogant, ignorant, and lacking in specificity. In it the author shows he knows jack shit about the work of Harlan Ellison, makes idiotic statements about Ellison's motivation and thinking which he just makes up out of whole clothe, and has the audacity to talk about works he hasn't bothered to read (Dangerous Visions, An Edge in my Voice). Oh, and he has the chutzpah to tell Harlan's readers why they like his work.


EU - Saturday, January 5 2013 6:40:34

For those who think that Harlan's books are for everyone, here's a NEGATIVE review of Approaching Oblivion at Worlds Without End:
I wish Peter a speedy recovery.
Saw the Woody Allen documentary and thought of Harlan and Erik now and then (absolutely a similar film): When Allen explained his typewriter (I think this is also in the trailer because I'd seen it before) and when he talked about being a bad kid and burying toy soldiers under some plants outside the house (this is in an extended scene on the Blu-ray). I also wondered if Harlan heard of him in his New York days because it seems Woody became a hit in the Village in 1961.
I was taken aback when he suddenly talked highly of Asimov who fact-checked Sleeper.

Frank Andrews
Saint Paul, MN - Friday, January 4 2013 15:51:2

Antenna TV will be airing Harlan's FLYING NUN episode, "You Can't Get There From Here" Saturday 5 Jan at 1:30 central. I've never seen a Cordwainer Bird credit onscreen and am experiencing a disproportionate amount of anticipatory glee in finally being able to see one!

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Friday, January 4 2013 13:51:19

Update on Peter David's Progress & Ways We Can Help
Here is the latest update from Peter David's wife, and ways you can help.



Frank Church
- Friday, January 4 2013 11:41:38

The FCC cannot regulate cable but the government can set laws on commmon carry.

Time Warner shouldn't be able to censor since they have a monopoly in most towns.


Odd that Al Jazeera would buy Current Tv, especially since it hasn't done horribly well.

It even sold for 500 million, amazing.


Great article in Mother Jones that outlines that the main cause for violent crime may just be lead. When they stopped putting lead in gas violent crime rates went down.

Lead on lead Obamanator.


Cindy, did you vote for Romney?

Joe B.
New York, - Friday, January 4 2013 6:19:56

The Outfit
Finally, after some time, I'm reading THE OUTFIT as recommended by our gracious host. And it. is. SPOT ON AWESOME! I ride the subway for my commute, roughly 30 minutes to and from work and it's the perfect read for it. Love love love it and cannot wait to devour more.

I have a question for you, Harlan, and anyone else: What do you think about the multiple adaptations of the Parker character in film? (for example, Payback, The Outfit, etc.) Also, I see a new film is coming out with Jason Stratham as Parker. Thoughts?

Thank you again for the recommendations and Happy New Year to you, Susan, and all the rest a ya!

- Joe

TEXAS - Thursday, January 3 2013 23:26:48

Thanks Frank,
That was sweet of you. It made me feel better.  

I will tell you this; I have learned that when the river is on a rise, you have to stop struggling and let it carry you. If you swim at a gentle angle in the soft direction of land-- it will take you where you need to be.

The water sparkles just as brightly from the bank. 

So I hide in the salt cedar and watch the bright flotilla paddle past. From here I can see the faces of those I adore.

And  I'm glad to see you, Frank-- there beside the railing-- peeing off the bow and waving your hat at me.

Andrew Laubacher
Buffalo, NY - Thursday, January 3 2013 11:0:42

Reply to Frank Church
Sorry, Frank. The FCC only covers broadcast television and radio, not cable and such.

Frank Church
- Thursday, January 3 2013 8:26:59

Dorman, you live in Australia, you already win.

I think it's summer there, another win.


Gutless, punk ass Time Warner cable drops Current Tv because Al Jazeera buys it. Do we have a fucking FCC or what? There's supposed to be no censorship.

We also need common carry back. We need one politician who is not sold.

Tom Morgan
Silverado, CA - Wednesday, January 2 2013 20:17:2

I will add my wishes for a safe and secure new year for all here. And since I am a day late and it is January 2nd I will also lift a cup (OK, a can) to Harlan's good friend the late great Dr. Asimov, who once expressed hope that his friend Harlan would finally find happiness in his latest marriage to "a sweet young woman named Susan".

Mark Goldberg <markabaddon@gmail.com>
- Wednesday, January 2 2013 16:41:43

Mary, I echo your sentiments on 2012. A roller coaster would be the nicest way to describe my last year.

Here's to wishing each and every Webderlander a very Happy 2013

All the best,


Reich aka Kid Eternity <rbenasutti@yahoo.com>
Lawrenceville, GA - Wednesday, January 2 2013 15:16:57

"It only takes what I point at"
Cool break down of everything that's going on around us these days. I heard that their working on a camera that takes pictures through and around corners but it's not quite perfected yet. Then you've got the high frame rate on The Hobbit that they need to perfect a little better. Interesting times. Lewis Black said it best: "yeah, the flying car will finally be invented....the day after I die!"

- Wednesday, January 2 2013 13:9:15


BARBER: NOT that I'm looking to defend or attack anyone, or thing, but since the initials, or three letter pseudonyms and such came up -- would that advice would _include_ full pseudonyms, too? Like Frank Church...and, er, um, Tim Raven? :)

And, try as I might, I _don't_ see an argument taking place between Mr. Raven and VOR in any posts below. Saw some advice that was given, some umbrage taken, but no arguments or fights or hissy fits (although I'll cop to not really being obsessed enough to check _all_ of the old posts).

Perhaps this was what is known as a "non event".

Cheers from Oz, and belated New Year wishes, to everyone in Webderland, and, of course, to
Harlan and Susan,
Susan and Harlan,

- Wednesday, January 2 2013 12:16:51

Reply to Frank
FRANK: That would be DFA; I'm the _other_ guy.


Frank Church
- Wednesday, January 2 2013 11:45:3

Barber, you bawled like a baby during the film, admit it? I do everytime I see it.

"An angel gets his wings." God, I'm misty already. Excuse me.


Cindy, your new years resolution is to post more here. Really knock our socks off. Your a smart egg, don't let us down.


DTS is Dorman from Australia. He just doesn't like typing all of that, I'd suspect.

John Pickett <johnp51157@live.com>
Gainesville , Florida - Wednesday, January 2 2013 11:0:58

Dr Who is in the Mail
LONDON (AP) — Dr. Who — who usually uses a police box for travel — will be zooming through time and space on the edge of letters in 2013.
Britain's Royal Mail is marking the 50th anniversary of the science fiction show "Doctor Who" with a series of stamps featuring each of the 11 actors who have played the title role. Those featured include the present doctor, Matt Smith, as well as past Time Lords such as David Tennant and Christopher Eccleston.
The series will also include a miniature sheet that brings together Second Class stamps featuring four of the doctor's iconic foes — a Dalek, an Ood, a Weeping Angel and a Cyberman.
The stamps honoring the cult British television program will be available starting at the end of March

C. Cooper
NYC , - Wednesday, January 2 2013 10:41:34

Umm, that should have been "Pacific Rim Review of Books". Sigh. To paraphrase Deputy Dawg cartoons: If auto spell don't get you, typing on tiny apple screens will. :-/. Sorry!

Steve Barber <thumbnailtraveler@verizon.net>
- Wednesday, January 2 2013 10:25:56

Is it a sign of things to come when your heater gives out the first day of the New Year?

Is it me, or is it kind of pointless to get into a shoving match with an anonymous three letter acronym? (KOS and DTS get passes because they're initials.)

Happy New Year. 2013. And, if you look around us, we live in that future we kept warning ourselves about waaaaayyy back in the 1970s. Isaac Asimov once noted -- in Future Life Magazine I believe -- that we would all be able to broadcast ourselves to the planet, essentially running our own tv network if we so chose.

Youtube anybody?

Our cars do not fly, but they certainly are technological miracles compared to the Dodge Aries-K. But I readily admit, the DeLorean is a timeless design when you get right down to it.

We communicate on phones which make Communicators look like tinkertoys. Our iPads can do anything Captain Picard did on his handheld tablet, and then some. (He read a lot. We can play Angry Birds.)

My 42 inch flat screen shows old episodes of Twilight Zone with an uncanny presence, and cable networks can run all 156 of the original iteration's run in wall-to-wall marathons to incite geekgasms all 'round.

The term sci-fi only holds a bite for those of us over 30. It has become toothless for anyone else.

My camera can hold 586 photographs. But it still takes only what I point it at. The same computer I use to edit my photographs lets me produce programming for the Youtube channel mentioned above.

I write on something called a blog. It's virtually the same as a newsletter, but it doesn't require nearly the paper or postage of its predecessors.

I just looked up the owner's manual for our heater. Online. No more futzing through drawers of manuals.

We watched IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE over the holidays on our Blue Ray player, and only had to pause it once for the noise of JetBlue flight 256 as it winged its way our of Long Beach en route to New York at 500+ MPH.

Did you see the dude who parachuted from space last year? Or the planetary system found with four stars, or the one with a potentially habitable planet? Or maybe you dug the private spacecraft that docked with the space station.

Or maybe it was was NASA's Martian SUV which, ahem, got your rocks off.

Either way, welcome to 2013.

"Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy ride".

Paul Hull <vaughnrichards@yahoo.com>
ATX, - Wednesday, January 2 2013 5:40:6

Happy New Year, and alla that

I hope everyone stays healthy and happy, and gets rich and famous. That'll keep us humble.

Thanks to Rick and our gracious host, may HE and the missus stay unsick.

And for us all-
May your future be filled with more goodness than your past,
may the new year find us stronger and smarter than the last.

Stay good gang,
Paul and Kat

- Wednesday, January 2 2013 5:27:52

Okey dokey
Tim Raven,


shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Tuesday, January 1 2013 17:34:11

SHOCK TOTEM PUBLICATIONS posts a short story recommendation a day on FaceBook, and today's recommendation:

The Short Story of the Day- "The Whimper of Whipped Dogs" by Harlan Ellison.

From the incredible, "Deathbird Stories" collection. A voyeuristic tale of urban decay and numbness. This one's stunning, boys and girls.--John

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Tuesday, January 1 2013 17:23:16

Happy New Year Everyone!

Susan, I hope that the new year has seen your complete recovery from the Martian Flu!
Harlan, you have been an inspiration to me these last few years, thank you for your many moments of encouragement and support. I hope that I will prove worthy of them.

Take it easy!


I found your first post directed at me uncomfortable and the second slightly tainted with smugness.

I’m no longer a callow youth deserving of “lessons” from a complete stranger. My learning for the last three decades has been from life experience itself. I think you presume too much.

If you find my posts maudlin then dismiss them and read on. Please restrain yourself from schooling me with such obvious advice.

With that said, I still wish you a healthy and happy new year.

Thank you,

Tim Raven

Mary <hoffmann.mary7@gmail.com>
- Tuesday, January 1 2013 9:10:20

Happy New Year
Ah, 2013...I've been waiting for you. 2012 was a year of extreme ups and downs for me. If I wanted a rollercoaster ride, I would have simply hightailed it up to Magic Mountain.

May everyone here have a happy, peaceful New Year's Day, and may the year be a good one. Wishing you all the best!

C. Cooper
NYC , - Tuesday, January 1 2013 1:15:56

At last!
Happy New Year! Harlan, I have good news which I hope will help exorcise the winter cold bug from your home. :-) Remember that career-appreciation I promised you over our last dinner outing? It will appear in the very next issue (#18) of *The Pacific Rim of Books!* We managed to catch up with (I think) most of the new publishing activity too! I am very pleased. I will ring you when I see hard copy and make sure to send one to you and Susan in addition to an electronic copy. My gift to you as we enter 2013.
Love, CC

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Tuesday, January 1 2013 0:16:8


Doug is at his store hosting an all night game event. Living his dream.

I'm home writing. Living my dream.

May you have a chance to do the same in 2013.


TEXAS - Monday, December 31 2012 23:29:10

I will pray for your friend Peter and his family,as
I always pray for you, MY friend, and for Susan and all your friends and family.

May this be your happiest New Year.
Your friend, from so many years ago,

- Monday, December 31 2012 23:12:7

Note to Tim, and lamentations about our leader
Tim, I wasn't advising against thinking -- merely against thinking about yourSELF so much. Being concerned with everything about oneself is a rite of passage everyone goes through when growing up, some of us a little later than others -- and I include myself in that latter group. But too much introspection can result in one never relying on extrospection -- and in stunted growth for the one gazing too far into his or her own navel. Taking a vacation from your head meant focusing on others and the world around you. That sort of thing can also stave off maudlin feelings that come with 24/7 contemplation of oneself.

Speaking of the world around us: With the compromise he made on taxes, I'm thinkin Obama may be his own worst enemy. If I'm proved wrong in 2014 and the obstructionist, conservative congress people are voted out or reformed, I'll eat my hat. But I don't think I'll need to search for jam that goes well with felt anytime soon. (Le sigh).

Brenda Balin <brenda.balin@att.net>
Waukegan, Illinois - Monday, December 31 2012 21:32:22

New Year greetings
To Susan and Harlan Ellison,
and all their friends,
may the new year bring
health (retained or regained),
peace (inner and outer),
and all the love and joy your souls can hold.

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.com>
Minneapolis, MN - Monday, December 31 2012 19:43:52


one and all

Best of everything to the Ellisons.

peace, at least,

Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Monday, December 31 2012 19:10:56

Happy New Year
Wishing a Happy and Prosperous New Year to all who visit here!

Diane Bartels <dianebartels99 @comcast.net>
Merrionette Park, IL - Monday, December 31 2012 19:8:55

United States
A very Happy New to all here. And best wishes to Mr. David for a speedy recovery.

Jeff R.
Phila., - Monday, December 31 2012 18:50:49

A LIO anecdote for Harlan
I kept the installment of the strip where he's making a Christmas gift list and puts his mother's name on it. In the next panel, we see him putting flowers on her grave. My mother died when I was 12, you see. (A suicide, no less!) On the strip, I wrote, "Some people NEVER forget."

Happy New Year.

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Monday, December 31 2012 15:8:6

Locus Poll

With apologies for posting twice within 24 hours, I wanted to report the results of the Locus poll for "best all-time short fiction".

In summary:

Harlan appears in the best 20th century novelette category at #7 (A Boy And His Dog) and #23 (The Deathbird).

HE also appears in the best 20th century short story category at #3 (Repent Harlequin...) and #4 (IHNMAIMS) and #18 (Jeffty Is Five)

And HE appears in the best 21st century short story category at #18 (How Interesting: a Tiny Man)

Sure, it's only a popularity poll, but it's good to see that those Ellison stories old and new are still well remembered.

Full details (including explanation of the method of compilation) are here:


- Phil

Frank Church
- Monday, December 31 2012 9:14:17

Much love and respect to Peter David, whom I don't really know, but seems the sort to be really nice and loving. All healing prayers and angels hugs to his bedside.

I tend to know him from here and the black suited Spidey, but he is loved.


Travel is different than just going somewhere. Yes, it is deep.

John E. Williams
- Monday, December 31 2012 8:19:55

Peter David Update
Blog post from Kathleen David.


driftglass <driftglass99@gmail.com>
Plain 'O Jelly Jars, IL - Monday, December 31 2012 8:17:8

Soldier in the Rain
I'm guessing that our host is already familiar with (and/or owns the original master of) this film, but if not, it might make a couple of hours recovering from The Crud pass a little more pleasantly. The plot misfires on a couple of cylinders, but watching Steve McQueen's goofy, ambitious "Eustis Clay" play off of Jackie Gleason's comfortably inert "Maxwell Slaughter" was worth my nickel.

Odd that, right after "discovering" this little film, my first impulse was to run tell Unca Harlan about it :-)

Wishing you all health, peace, prosperity and a wealth of good company in the new year.

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Monday, December 31 2012 1:59:14

Bradbury and memory


Have I ever considered writing an article comparing Proust and Bradbury? Briefly, yes... but I know too little about Proust, whereas literary scholars know too MUCH about him. I would be afraid of making (what we Brits would call) a tit of myself. But certainly there is a study to be made there.

As for Tom Disch, I am aware of his critiques of Bradbury, but I'm not sure they are terribly productive in getting to the secret of Bradbury's success. My own view is that Bradbury's range was quite enormous, although he tended to narrow down to the comfortably familiar the longer his career went on. Focusing on the naivety of some of the work would obscure the sophistication of stories such as "The Scythe", "The Crowd", "The Wind", "The Homcoming", "Gotcha!" and many others.

Bradbury's real-life character (as opposed to what we might infer from his works) does seem to have been naive and sentimental, and it is absolutely plain why he could never get on with someone like Huston. But look at how much he was loved by the people at JPL and NASA. Sometimes you need naive sentiment when you have pyramids, cathedrals or space programmes to build.


I, too, have wondered about the veracity of the Mr Electrico story. It was one of perhaps twenty stock anecdotes that Bradbury would recount over and over in his presentations and interviews, and if you track the story over time you do see embellishments.

Bradbury's biographer Sam Weller tried to track down the real Mr Electrico but without success. Bradbury was insistent that the travelling carnival that came to Waukegan was called the Dill Brothers Combined Shows (or something like that), but no one has been able to identify a carnival with that exact name. It seems like that he has conflated the name of two different carnivals.

We do know for certain that Bradbury mis-remembered the timing of the carnival's presence in Waukegan, as he insisted that it was in town on Labor Day weekend and during the funeral of his Uncle Lester... but it turns out Labor Day and the funeral were at different times. Weller investigated this aspect of the story quite thoroughly, and I have done personally done research into the death (it was murder!) of Uncle Lester.

My own view: the story is probably basically true. There probably was a Mr Electrico. But I've a feeling the "live forever" element was an embellishment.

Does it matter? Not a lot. He was a storyteller. Let him weave the story any way he pleases!

- Phil


the Shadow
- Sunday, December 30 2012 22:5:13

Note to Alex about journalism: when the legend becomes fact...
Alex, to quote a fictional character about factual things (this at the end of the movie, when our narrator/"hero" Ransom Stoddard has revealed the truth of the matter by telling his story in detail to a journalist:

Ransom Stoddard: "You're not going to use the story, Mr. Scott?"

Maxwell Scott: "No, sir. This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."

From the movie, "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence", screenplay by
James Warner Bellah and Willis Goldbeck (based on a story by Dorothy M. Johnson).

Brooklyn, - Sunday, December 30 2012 19:13:59

Bradbury, cont'd...

"You are so right about Bradbury REMEMBERING - although it has to be said that he wasn't always factually accurate in his non-fiction recollection"

This leads me to a question I have trouble forming politely, so I'll blurt it right out: "How much of Bradbury's 'Mr. Electrico' narrative is accurate?" The story has what we trained journalists would call a suspicious provenance. It's just TOO good a story.

- Sunday, December 30 2012 16:51:39


Yes, I know, since Peter posted on his blog, that many of you have been apprised that my dearest friend had a stroke on his right side, while vacationing with Kathleen and Ariel, his daughter, at Disneyworld in Florida. He apparently began with double-vision and, later last night, his right leg went out. At moment, he's resting easily, with apparently excellent medical attention. Spoke to Kathleen a few minutes ago; I'm sure Peter himself will let those of us who wait helplessly but hopefully, if there is anything for us to do but look on prepared to assist.

Yr. pal, Harlan

Kenny Noor
- Sunday, December 30 2012 15:10:10

Excellent photos by Tyler Anderson can be found at (http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/12/28/best-photos-of-2012-taken-by-tyler-anderson/ ) including one of:

Mike Pitul, dressed as Star Wars character Boba Fett, holds his baby daughter Ariadne Pitul, as he waits in a lineup during a children's costume competition at Wizard World Comic Con at the Metro Toronto Convention Centre in Toronto, Ontario, Sunday, April 15, 2012.
Tyler Anderson/National Post

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Sunday, December 30 2012 12:28:1

Peter David
I know I'm breaking the multiple post rule, but I also know Peter has many friends on this board.

Kurt Busiek posted this to his Facebook page:

"All best wishes and hopes for a fast and complete recovery to Peter David, who's had a stroke while on vacation in Florida, affecting his right arm and leg and his vision. Hang in there, Peter, we're all pulling for you."

Peter apparently posted the news to his blog as well. Needless to say, my good thoughts go out to him and his family. They're really good people.

James Levy <susjpl@hofstra.edu>
Syosset, New York - Sunday, December 30 2012 9:3:21

To Mr. Nichols

Have you ever considered writing an article comparing sense and memory in Proust and Bradbury? Hard to find a receptive academic audience in a major journal, perhaps, but still, well worth considering. Also, have you seriously engaged Disch's critique of Bradbury? I remember once hearing Angelica Houston discussing why her father found Bradbury annoying and depressing, and I think Disch had the same problem: two highly sophisticated, perhaps cynical men trying to relate to a man who was quite likely naive and deeply sentimental. I think there is something in that, too. Please let me know if you agree.

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Sunday, December 30 2012 6:2:33

Rough Beasts
I'm reading these stories one per day. Rough, yes, but they still got it.

I keep thinking how much fun it would be to adapt them into comics stories. They would have fit just fine into the EC titles.

Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Sunday, December 30 2012 1:6:13

Bradbury remembers
ALEX, re Bradbury:

You are so right about Bradbury REMEMBERING - although it has to be said that he wasn't always factually accurate in his non-fiction recollection, ahd his fictional recall was always enhanced by an element of (day)dreaming. He often spoke of how his stories would come to him as he entered a waking state, and he would then rush to the typewriter to capture them.

The classic of the power of memory is "A Scent of Sarsaparilla", where memory is so strong that a man finds himself transported into his own past.

I do find this same power in several of Harlan's stories, too, especially "Jeffty is Five" and "One Life, Furnished in Early Poverty".

- Phil


- Sunday, December 30 2012 0:42:18

Lofthouse's Little Wonders

I get my Fisherman's Friends at Dominick's in Chicagoland. They're part of Safeway, hence you may want to try Pavilions at 14845 Ventura Blvd. in Sherman Oaks.
Wow, they make more flavors than I realized:


Will try sending a box to HERC this week, since winter just started.

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Sunday, December 30 2012 0:24:4

My Vacation...

Off Ensenada

I was staring at the ocean
off the coast of Mexico
and I began to notice
that the cufflinks
don’t match the shoes on this guy

He was screaming at the top of his range
“I’ll fuck you up, bitch, I’ll fuck you up!”
His four friends held him back
as the drunken woman fled.

I was staring at the ocean
off the coast of Mexico
and I could hear them
behind me
in a reflection
on the salt covered window.

“I’ll fuck you up, bitch! ” he said yet again.
to empty air


I threw back my beer
and ordered another.
When Security showed up
as usual
It was all over.

I continued staring at the ocean
off the coast of Mexico
while he was bragging to his friends

how he could’ve fucked up that bitch again.

He entered the tiny bathroom
and I followed him in
he opened the stall and turned around
annoyed that I came in
I smashed him in his fucking face
His skull made the sound that a coconut makes
as it bounced against the tile
I pulled out my crank
and began my long piss
unable to shake this thought


that the goddamn cufflinks
don’t match
the motherfucking
shoes on this guy.

Back at the bar.
I sat on my stool.
And signaled for a phone.
With a steady gaze on the ocean
off the coast of Mexico.

Tim Raven

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Saturday, December 29 2012 23:7:42


Thank you for the positive review of my three lines of writing. All were taken from my latest notebook. It’s invigorating to get encouragement and I’m embarrassed to admit that I read your post far more times than was needed to comprehend it.

Thanks again, Chief!




I liked your poem, but the last stanza needs serious attention. Anyway, I appreciated the advice and I will accept it in the exact same spirit in which it was given.


Tim Raven

p.s. I like thinking too much.


The aroma of old books….one of the strongest sense memories. Mine is for the first collection of Science Fiction short stories that I read as a young boy in Baltimore City. It was one of my Dad’s books. I remember the story “The Rocketeers Have Shaggy Ears” was included. There were color plates that appealed to my mind.

The tome had “that musty, ivory aroma” even back then in the sixties. I think that wonderful book got left behind back in my divorce in ’96. Shit. I know for sure I don’t have it now. The precious things we shed involuntarily as time marches on.

Tim Raven

JOE WEHRLE, JR. <wehrle1@verizon.net>
Punxsutawney, PA - Saturday, December 29 2012 20:48:0

The first Bantam paperback I ever owned (and I still have it, so I am able to periodically remind myself of the distinctive smell of an aging Bantam), was PILGRIMAGE TO EARTH by Robert Sheckley, and it was also my introduction to that clever, wry type of science fiction that is sometimes cynical, but not without humor. A very special collection.

Brooklyn, - Saturday, December 29 2012 19:35:48

Someone was commenting on Bradbury's writing and kind-of touched on what was so special about it. For me, Bradbury (voice drops slightly to just above a whisper) ... remembered.

He remembered what it was like to be a boy. He remembered it so well that he was able to pull the whole thing through time and deposit it on the page in the typewriter. He evoked mood, time, place, and emotion with such skill that I can give him the ultimate complement: he made it look easy.

Does anyone else remember those Bantam paperbacks with the dark red edges on the pages? Remember how they'd smell as the paper started to age? Like dust and libraries. In the future, as everyone gets a Kindle spot-welded to their cerebral cortex as soon as they're extracted from the Birthing Pod, no one will remember that smell.

I bet Ray Bradbury remembered that smell. I bet he could have written about it so perfectly that everyone who read it would understand that smell, what it meant, what its specialness was. The whole schmear.

Tim Derrick <t44s77@msn.com>
Imperial, CA - Saturday, December 29 2012 18:29:45

To Harlan and Frank,

Isaac Asimov was the one who didn't travel. So I was shocked to run in to him at a movie theater in San Diego (in the late 70's I think.)

Tim Derrick

Don Hilliard <dbhilliard@peak.org>
Bayshore, OR - Saturday, December 29 2012 18:1:17

SUSAN E. - You're quite welcome. Three packets in the mail to tide you over at present.

And yes, I first tasted FFs in London circa 1988, as an exchange student with a miserable winter cold/sinus infection. On a doctor's recommendation (distinguished bloke in a three-piece suit toting a 10lb. mobile phone.)

To paraphrase Bertie Wooster, it was as if someone had lit a fire behind my sinuses and was strolling down my throat with the torch.

However, the damn things have gotten me thru a couple of equally awful colds since (invariably in the middle of shipyard work mid-winter).

But I can never shake the mental image, when buying a packet, of the late Red Adair (possibly played by John Wayne) muttering grimly, "OK, boys...looks like we gotta blast."

Barney Dannelke <dannelke@gmail.com>
ALLENTOWN, PA - Saturday, December 29 2012 13:48:12

United States
*** Susan *** "Were-badger" My ass. Were-hamster or were-gerbil more likely. I have witnessed those THINGS you call sneezes.

*** Don *** Pez reference FTW.

*** Steve Barber *** There's plenty of travel stuff but it tends to be folded into the fiction and essays in somewhat inextricable ways. Like a butcher finding ways to use "everything but the squeal" as opposed to broken out into volumes like the more discrete travel writings of Twain or Naipaul or Theroux. But it's there.

An artifact I'd love to see preserved but maybe won't be is, about a decade ago Harlan had a lovely rant about "The Worst Airline In The World." I saw him do an edited version for a panel or G.O.H. speech somewhere and then witnessed him do a longer version at a dinner with friends. It was a good five to seven minutes and was easily as good as Lewis Black's lovely bit about flying to New Zealand.

Ken 'Owes <kenkennyrh@aol.com>
Sunderland, UK - Saturday, December 29 2012 12:16:57


Harlan . . .sorry to hear the Christmas pox has parked it's arse in Wonderland. Please accept my bestest wishes in hoping that Susan and yourself promptly break free from the shackles of ill health that bind you both in varying degrees.

However, I wonder if I might impinge on your good nature to satisfy a curiosity re Partners in Wonder. I've been reading it for no other reason than it is one of the few books, with your name attached, that I have not thus far completed and, in truth, I find it a very strange read for many reasons far too copious to list here.

So, I would ask. Do you have any insights or recollections about the process of collaboration with the hindsight of many years past ?? Were there any joint efforts that didn't make the cut for some reason ?? Surely this was comparable to the twelve labours of Hercules.

My inquisitiveness stems from the fact that I once tried a "one chapter by me, the next by you" experiment for a preposterously obscure fanzine back in the day. It was a bizarre experience indeed.

Yer nosey neighbour, 'Owes

- Saturday, December 29 2012 11:32:7

Dear Don- Your recon into the Devil's workshop to find FF for my MDF is much apprecited. Once you tasted a FF.......

With all kindness--Susan

Fred Keller <fkeller@scicable.net>
Sandstone, MN - Saturday, December 29 2012 9:55:40

One Hour of Happy for Mr. Ellison
Knowing our esteemed host's love of jazz and having ascertained from said host an affinity for the mandolin (after introducing myself and my profession at the first Cinefamily event in 2011), I offer this gem, this absolute bit of profound perfection for your perusal.

The one hour you spend listening to and watching Jethro Burns play will be, I trust, a lifetime's worth of jaw-dropping. Steve Goodman makes one of his last appearances here and Chet Atkins stops by to play a few. The rest of the band features Don Stiernberg, John Parrot, Jethro's son and every one of them is a joy.


Steve Barber <barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Saturday, December 29 2012 8:40:36

Not that he needs it, but allow me -- as the self-styled travel dude in these parts -- to reaffirm Harlan's love of travel. Well, correcting that. He, and I, hate the current state of air travel. But BEING other places, it's a mutual love (shared by our respective spouses to nicely round it out). In fact, Susan and Harlan have been among my most enthusiastic supporters, and we have spent quite a few conversations discussing exploits and places and food to eat and things to see and...well, you get the point. The man's been EVERYWHERE.

If 'twer someday possible I might line up behind Jason and Tim and Barney and all the others with Projecta Ellisonia to assemble his thoughts on Travel and his various travel-related exploits.

Then again, that would be a volume the equal of "DANGEROUS VISIONS" *plus* "AGAIN, DANGEROUS VISIONS".

Speaking of which, Susan K. Perry, a friend of mine, responded to an email notification of my Year End Review with an excellent short piece on being an artist. She's a writer with six published books on topics ranging from raising children to 'WRITING-" and 'LOVING IN FLOW", and a long-time blog at PSYCHOLOGY TODAY on the creative process. She's currently shopping her first novel.

(Harlan, Susan, this is Persimmon's wife.)

(Her nickname for me online is "Nim", short for Nimdok based upon my introduction of Harlan's IHNMAIMS to her literary lexicon many, many years ago. The "Bloc" is the writers' group we have both belonged to for also many, many years.)

"Just read your blog, Nim, and am reminded of why I like art (all kinds) so much. The effort to make art out of life involves living and experiencing, first, but then you shape, mold, twist, and re-experience the things you've done to create something beyond just plain living. So that when writing, I feel like I'm doubling my life intensity, as I'm always living on two planes, the plain plane, and the "what will I do with this later" plane. So when I'm not working at my arty thing (i.e., writing), I feel like I'm only half-living. Double drops to half (because once you're experienced the pleasure of that doubling, plain life isn't enough anymore).

All Bloc members get this, right? Those with anti-doubling prism glasses will just have to work four times as hard to understand.

Oh, and by extension, your sharing of your travels, Nim, means I can stay home and do my own thing while getting a little shot of travel high (without the bloody nose) from your artistic efforts. So thanks.

And to all of us, a serene and accepting New Year in which we learn to focus on just the right things that will do us and our loved ones some good.


Steve Hatton <stevehatton@blueyonder.co.uk>
St Helens, UK - Saturday, December 29 2012 8:11:3

Fishermen's Friends

Sorry you are not well and hope you are feeling better. Fishermens Friends are the invention of the Devil, that are disgusting but I know you like aniseed particularly if it in Pernod or Ouzo.

I promise I will write in the next week or so, things are a bit mad here and I will explain all.

Lots of love and best wishes for the New Year to you and Harlan. X

Frank Church
- Saturday, December 29 2012 7:31:29

This shows you the gaps I have in Harlan reading. I am so sorry Harlan. You have seen the world, you da man.

If we all don't get to go to our destination there is always the dream center.

We all aim to reach dat summit.

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Friday, December 28 2012 23:54:14

ambulating confabulations
"I go virtually nowhere now. I'm ill. Or I'd still be at it, 24-7."

Is there anything I can do to help?

Lighten the load. Help to crack a smile. Perform a service.

I realize that I am far from alone in this desire. Perhaps the question should be - Is there anything WE can do to help?

Use us!


shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Friday, December 28 2012 19:54:55

Re: Lio
HARLAN: Thank you!

- Friday, December 28 2012 18:47:26



Rick "Cato Hightower" Grossman <rickgrossman@yahoo.com>
Harrisville, The Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania - Friday, December 28 2012 18:6:8

Comic Strips
Unca Harlan,

What daily comics do you read since the demise of Calvin and Hobbes and The Far Side?

Don Hilliard <dbhilliard@peak.org>
Bayshore, OR - Friday, December 28 2012 17:27:37

SUSAN E. - Whoever told you that Fishermen's Friends are "banned by the FDA" is, as your husband politely puts it, full of wild blueberry muffins.

They are perfectly legal in the US and you can buy them at Walgreens and lord knows how many other stores. Hell, tip me the word (if LA really doesn't have'em anywhere) and I'll go buy out the bin at Fred Meyer. (Not coincidentally, I live in a fishing town.)

And for a touch that Himself might appreciate...they're distributed in the US by Pez. (Visions of a truly macrocephalic dispenser arise...)

- Friday, December 28 2012 14:11:20


Frank, my sweet:

Where you absorbed the wrongo that you love traveling and I do not is beyond me. As apparently eveyone but you knows, I've spent since age 14 on the road; until recently. Most of the places you yearn to see, I've seen...and written about: Rio, Sao Paolo, Sweden, most of Canada all the way up near New Brunswick and the Arctic circle, Mexico, Baja, all 50 of the states including places you couldn't pay me enough to revist, England, Scotland, the Orkneys, Paris, Verasailles, mountains, rivers, back alleys, thousands of miles of highways, oceans,rairoads, deserts, New Orleans, London, high places & low;
airports, Heathrow, Orly, Canaveral, Stonehenge, underw2ater explorqation, prisons, poorhouses, psych wards, exlusive clubs, the wodld's finest restaurants, dives beyond the counting...i'VE DONE ENARLY ALL I wantede to do, seen much of what aI wnted to see.

In short, Frank, I have led the4 life both you and Miniver Cheevy have coveted.

I go virtually nowhere now. I'm ill. Or I'd still be at it, 24-7. I hope you get to go where you dream of going. But do not for a second confabulate the distortion that I do not ambulate. AMBULATE, son. Where do you think all those anecdoates come from?

- Friday, December 28 2012 13:34:23

For whatever fold in space and time, oddly enoufgh,I found those aphorisms enriching. Youse is a good boy.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Tom <Morgan>
Silverado, CA - Friday, December 28 2012 12:49:18

Today's Writer's Almanac has an interesting piece on Stan Lee, how he got started in the business and came to write characters who were not "all good or all bad":


I always got the impression Harlan loved travel. He certainly seemed to do a lot of it. What was that ad at the top of the page? Oh yeah, there it is: "Staying at Home with Harlan Ellison, Volumes 1-6".

A good day and new year to all here, and good health to the House of Ellison.

Frank Church
- Friday, December 28 2012 11:17:23

See, that's one thing that me and Harlan have nothing in common about--I love travel, he seems not to. I can't afford it, but would love to one say see the Pyramids, Paris, London, Easter Island, Loch Ness, Israel, RIO, Cape Town, many more...


Tarantino did an amazing interview with Charlie Rose. You should check it out.

Django is the real deal.

- Friday, December 28 2012 10:35:33

Thank you all for your help re: Martian Death Flu.

Dear, sweet Barney: I did not sound like Suzanne Pleshette. More like a cross between a piglette and a were-badger. Christmas Day I couldn't talk at all--A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE.

I took your suggestions about my Death Flu. Zinc tablets--Helps. Fisherman's Friends (I grew up on that stuff) are now banned by the FDA here. But don't worry, I have a FISHERMAN FRIEND in the UK helping me out.

With all kindness--Susan

Janet Gamache
Victoria, BC - Friday, December 28 2012 10:35:5

Best Wishes
and the Soothing of Hearts

Mr Paul Hull
Mr Tim Raven,
thank you.


Steve Barber <thumbnailtraveler@verizon.net>
- Friday, December 28 2012 10:26:25

Year End

A few days early, but I have put up my year-end Thumbnail Traveler blog entry, detailing 2012 in review. I kinda figure it's a safe bet nothing too dramatic is going to happen between now and Tuesday, and just wanted to get ahead of the holiday rush.


- Friday, December 28 2012 4:15:44

Essential Reading, and the Reading of Essential Truths
Couplea links with some E-ssential Reading, ifn I do say so myself.



And TimRaven, Tim!
Bra, homechunklet, StrangeContainerOfTooManyLooseEnds:

Me thinks,
You think,
Far too much.

Lighten up,
Get out, and in touch.

Burst free of the four walls
we call minds
Get out there among your own kind.

Turn your thoughts away from yourself,
and shine a light back out on out at the
rest o' the world.


Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Friday, December 28 2012 0:9:6

I’ve been in a weird mood.

I’m turning 49 next month. I’ve been gathering absolute animal truths for a while.
These would be animal absolute truths that I have learned:
“The strong use the weak”.
“There are consequences to being noticed”.

Now I’m looking for civilized absolute truths.
I was thinking that this might be one:
“If you are alive and can touch others, then you have the right to live a life of free will.”

Tim Raven

the Shadow
- Thursday, December 27 2012 21:44:17

A paean of promise to my nephew
Dear Cord-, er,
Dear Nephew:

Perhaps that should be a promise of a paean, for I am currently in the process of using powers of both djinn and mage to confabulate a bit of frippery that should bring a smile to the eye of both yourself, and the Electric One.
For the nonce, fret not: even one such as I -- confined but not condigned to the darkness -- has been known to occasionally overlook, forget, and otherwise flip-off such necessities of protection here in the 21st Century (where any fool and his flu-ridden mama might throw down on ya with a sneezer full of snot and other yeechy germs).

Until that magical package reaches your paws, I will remain,
steadfast, loyal and true,, whilst wishing the Electric One a speedy recovery (don't forget to wear your official, Michael Jackson Surgical Mask around the house for the next week or so),
The Shadow (but you, dear nephew, may call me Lamont).

- Thursday, December 27 2012 14:6:7

Dear Lamont:

We put off our flu shots this year. Some years we are sanely diligent, some years I just don't have the time or incentive. Susan is getting out a lot more of the time these days than I, thus thrusting her among THEM more than I find condign; but one of us has to move from the nest for necessities, so she's the one who got tapped by the evil mage's Orb of Laryngitis. She's improving some, not much, but some, and pretending that her previous week of coughing, chest pain, throat clog and general rheuminess are a blessing because she's "through all that."

Adolescent attitude, in my opinion. Barn door didn't whack me in the ass, so I can continue to leave it ajar.

I confess to dilatory and inexcusable slovenliness in the matter.

Shamefacedly, Yr. Cattarh, Harlan

Steve Barber <barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Thursday, December 27 2012 11:56:18

CLIFFORD - That, sir, is a story which undoubtedly made Unca Harlan's day. Very Ellisonesque solution. Doff of the cap and all that.

Speaking of which, when I finished reading Clifford's column, I used one of the links to read this very amusing response to an Image copyright notification (yes, I get the irony I'm often on the other end of this sort of thing, but found it amusing nonetheless).


I had my own fight with Airlock Alpha a couple of years back, over their use of an image I had taken and provided to David Silver to promote the sale of Unca Harlan's typewriter. Airlock Alpha used it, many months later, for an attack article on, you guessed it, Unca Harlan. Bad move.

So I sent the customary letter asking for payment and for a credit on the pic. Got a real nastygram in response, essentially accusing me of trying to blackmail them and that they had no intention of paying me OR giving me attribution, since the shot came from an "archive site whose name we have temporarily forgotten".

I pressed a bit further, letting them know that they could, if bothered, check out my website where they would see said picture as copyrighted -- which they could also see if they went to David's website. I figured easy-peasy.

Nope, they weren't going to play nice. I sought out and got the advice of photographer/lawyer and Harlan friend Christine Valada (I believe her thoughts were something to the effect of "hang them by the proverbials"). David, no slouch himself when it comes to this sort of thing, also sent them a pleasant and only slightly snarling notice that he hadn't given them permission to use the image EITHER, so that maybe they ought to listen to me.

Finally, in a last swat at me, they agreed to put a credit on the shot, ignoring completely my requested phrasing but getting in on nonetheless.

Meanwhile, a simple "oh, sorry about that" would have stopped me cold, and wouldn't have resulted in a handful of posts a year or so ago, making note of what jerks they were about it. Like this one....

I'm looking to completely revamp some of my sites in the next month or so, which will result in some (though not all) of the Friends of Ellison pictures being taken down off Barbergallery.net. (Older ones, etc.)

Last chance to see some of them -- get them while they're hot:


Clifford Meth <cliffmeth@aol.com>
The Ruins of NJ, - Thursday, December 27 2012 10:25:54

Producer Richard Saperstein stiffs again

Some of you may recall my unfortunate encounter with horror producer and ex-Weinstein Co. president Richard Saperstein. If you missed it and you're curious, read this (Harlan is mentioned):

As suspected, I'm not the only sucker Saperstein has played. Here's his latest rube:

Josh O: If you run into Richard S. again, send him my love.

Frank Church
- Thursday, December 27 2012 10:8:34

Yes, it's true, the FBI investigated Occupy Wall Street. Yea, Obama is our friend:


And you wonder why I am pissed all the time.

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.com>
Minneapolis, MN - Thursday, December 27 2012 8:24:9

zinc stincs


Zinc is effective as curative, palliative, and preventative; I think.

But. You. Will. Lose. Your. Sense. Of. Taste. Almost certainly.

Which sucks, unless you've already misplaced it.


JOE WEHRLE, JR. <wehrle1@verizon.net>
Punxsutawney, PA - Thursday, December 27 2012 8:5:49

Scott Lawrence: But the Ivar Jorgenson byline wasn't used exclusively in the Ziff-Davis magazines- Larry Shaw's INFINITY and SCIENCE FICTION ADVENTURES from Royal Publications also ran several Jorgenson stories. For instance: Thunder Over Starhaven in SF Adventures, Oct. 1957, Hunt The Space Witch! in SF Adventures, Jan. 1958, Ozymandias in Infinity, Nov. 1958. Silverberg has claimed authorship for Starhaven, and it's a very enjoyable '50s space adventure. Larry Shaw's magazines are also notable for the number of early Ellison stories published there, including the first appearance of Run For The Stars.

Barney Dannelke <dannelke@gmail.com>
Allentown, Pennsylvania - Thursday, December 27 2012 7:32:49

voice work
I bet Susan sounds just like Suzanne Pleshette with a U.K. accent right now. Oh, you Lucky Lucky Bastard.

the Shadow
- Thursday, December 27 2012 1:50:30

Question for Harlan (& or Susan...) re. the Martian Death Flu
I've a question for HARLAN (and/or SUSAN, but only if she's feeling well enough to read this board). And the question should be preceded by my stating that I DO commiserate -- I still remember what it was like -- regarding the Martian Death Flu, and that I genuinely wish Susan well, and hope Harlan doesn't get it, too, but: Do you folks get the latest flu shot each year? (Asking because I know some don't). I've done so for years and years, and it has literally been over a decade, maybe even going on two, since I got the seasonal, Martian Death Flu that so many, including you two, always get. And at least two close relatives -- whom we will call Nightshade and Moonshadow, to protect their identities -- have done likewise, and experienced the same results (with one exception, and that was the year Nightshade forgot to get a flu shot).

Just wondering, since you both usually get hit so hard, and just about every year, but this stuff. (If getting a shot at your local clinic isn't an option, the shots can be had at places like CVS pharmacy in L.A.).

Diane Bartels <dianebartels99 @comcast.net>
Merrionette Park, IL - Thursday, December 27 2012 0:26:11

United States
Tim, mon ami, dude, like I thought we were gonna cheer each other up when we had insomnia. Dude, like what happened. You hold on and I hold on, that is how we play it here. When desperate, read thee some Harlan, or watch his movie if it's dire. kay?
Your friend Diane

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Thursday, December 27 2012 0:5:15

another late night
Punch Line

I have nothing
I work like a slave every day
and I have nothing
the next interesting thing to happen
to me
will be my death.

I can design a bridge
and manage a four year project to the last picayune detail
and I will also
drink every beer in the house
so I make sure the supply is low
or just enough
that it’s inconvenient to get more that night.

but one day
the amount of beer in the place
will be more than my body can take
it’s better than getting hit by a bus
cause the pain will be slow
and drawn out
and I might be able to
squeeze in a few more beers
before the end

And that’s the punch line.

Greater Corditeland, - Wednesday, December 26 2012 23:50:41

nostrums of choice
Best wishes to Susan & Harlan and Webderlanders.

'Tis the season. I know this subject has come up at The Pav often enough and has been beaten to a pulp; everyone has their favorite nostrums -- but anyways so hey, here are mine to all youse guys during flu / cold season up here in the northern hemisphere, for what it may be worth:

* no dairy
* garlic
* Zinc - C chewables
* Progresso Santa Fe chicken soup (of course the chicken part is icky but the broth is recuperative)
* Fisherman's Friend lozenges (The Brits know how to make lozenges)
* Carbolic hand soap from Soapworks -- orange and antiseptic smelling yeah!
* humidifier for that nasty dry air
* many pillows, covers and unabashed moaning whilst in the fetal position

Scott Lawrence <s.lawrence@verizon.net>
- Wednesday, December 26 2012 20:18:37

Ivar Jorgensen
Harlan and Phil Nichols, thank you for the Ivar Jorgensen information; I was unaware that it was a house name. Ziff Davis clearly did not consider future collectors when "signing" the stories they published. As soon as my time machine gets back from the shop I plan to correct this. Of course then I'll have to come back here and change the tense of that last sentence. And that one, too.

FinderDoug, the depth of your SF knowledge continues to impress me. Thank you.

Rosemary Connors <rosie3bee@yahoo.com>
Ardmore, PA - Wednesday, December 26 2012 19:52:46

From the City of Brotherly Love and Sisterly Affection
"Dear to your heart is dear to ours" - thank you, most gracious host, for this lovely sentiment. And here in wind-whipped Philadelphia, I offer you and your bride wishes for strength, peace, and much happiness.

John E. Williams
Falls Church, Virginia - Wednesday, December 26 2012 18:34:8

Susan, please feel better soon. Can you use a treat? Do you like cupcakes?

My wife and I are reaching what we hope is the end of a long and rotten road that began back in July, when we discovered a big blob of black mold oozing from the floorboard in our clothes closet. We are 99% moved out into a new and wonderfully located little apartment right outside Georgetown, and not a moment too soon. My entire Yuletime was spent hauling and boxing and unboxing and re-hauling. We felt very alone in our little fix, which included facing down a recalcitrant landlady, until some friends came to our aid with a shitload of free moving boxes and a few relatives gladly sent cash our way. So, lots to be thankful for as we close out 2012. I hope the same goes for the rest of you. Peace.

Michael Rapoport
- Wednesday, December 26 2012 17:2:51

Just finished reading one of my holiday gifts to myself: NONE OF THE ABOVE. Good stuff. Wish I could buy a ticket to see it at my local multiplex.

Till then ... feel better, Harlan and Susan, and best tidings of the season.

Kevin Avery
Brooklyn, New York - Wednesday, December 26 2012 14:41:9

Ugly Things

I just learned that my book, EVERYTHING IS AN AFTERTHOUGHT: THE LIFE AND WRITINGS OF PAUL NELSON, was reviewed in Issue 34 of UGLY THINGS ("the ultimate rock & roll read": http://ugly-things.com/) alongside a review of PULLING A TRAIN. I'm happy to report that both books were reviewed very favorably.

I can honestly say that, even though my book has received more than its share of positive notices and press (including a full-page review in THE NEW YORK TIMES SUNDAY BOOK REVIEW), this may be my proudest moment: having one of my books reviewed on the same page as one of yours.


Frank Church
- Wednesday, December 26 2012 12:16:38

I heard a recent interview with Orson Bean and now I regret it. Not only is he a jew who converted to Christ but he is a nutty conservative who's daughter was married to the late Andrew Breitbart.

His quote about how college kids get converted to that marxist thing, I blanch. Just make up anything, that's the new right.

Steve Barber <barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Wednesday, December 26 2012 10:23:56

Noted, in Passing

I just read that Gerry Anderson, creator of THUNDERBIRDS, CAPTAIN SCARLET, UFO and SPACE:1999 passed away today (thank you Phil for posting this on FB).

I do not put this here as yet another "oh gosh, look who died" thought, but rather as a tribute to a man who built a part of my childhood, and may have begun the foundation upon which I discovered science fiction. Anderson created worlds which excited me, and got me to thinking -- along the way producing truly classic episodes which challenged young minds in ways that American fare such as FAR OUT SPACE NUTS might have missed.

Thank you, Mr Anderson, for giving me such a wonderful gift that has colored so many other aspects of my life.

Chuck Messer
- Wednesday, December 26 2012 10:7:59

Martian Death Flu: What a helluva way to spend the holidays. I hope you're feeling better by the time the new year rolls around. In the meantime, I'll bet you've got someone in your corner, someone who is slightly fond of the ground you walk on. That should help.


alan <largo>
fl. - Wednesday, December 26 2012 6:26:44

Best to your New Year

Wishing the Ellison's a speedy recovery

Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Tuesday, December 25 2012 21:8:40

Martian Death Flu
This sounds similar to what my wife went through recently (as she rushed to finish a book on deadline). Lots of sleep and fluids help, but the cough remains and might require a visit to the doctor. So don't hesitate -- if you can manage to get out the door, or if you have a doctor who will prescribe things over the phone. It's really necessary....

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Tuesday, December 25 2012 20:37:54


Hydrate, hope, and hug for a healthy New Year.


- Tuesday, December 25 2012 16:25:10

SCOTT LAWRENCE: That would be Randall Garrett writing under the Ivar Jorgensen name.

HARLAN & SUSAN - Sorry to hear of a new bout of the Martian Death Flu. Hope it's run and done by the time the new year arrives.

ALL: Whatever your holiday practice, enjoy and be well! Me and the missus are making dinner and settling in for the Doctor Who Christmas episode. My honey braises a heck of a pork shank.

JOE WEHRLE, JR. <wehrle1@verizon.net>
Punxsutawney, PA - Tuesday, December 25 2012 15:1:58

Chuck Messer: You may have insulted Cthulhu with your Cheney comparison.

You will all probably think the following is too sappy and syrupy, but it came into my head, so I'm posting it!

For all good Pavilion members:
As I watch digital Yule log embers,
I wish snow on your nose, and snow on your tongue,
A warm house with chairs where coats can be flung,
Charming gifts that weren't bought on Black Friday,
But are heartfelt, and wrapped up all tidy.
Happy Yule (or whatever you please)
From old Punxsutawney, in the house 'neath the trees.

Mary <hoffmann.mary1@gmail.com>
- Tuesday, December 25 2012 14:13:12

Merry Christmas!
Happy holidays to one and all...I hope it's been a good one. I pass along get well soon vibes to Susan, and to both Mr. and Mrs. Ellison, I send you holiday greetings as well as a big thank you for just being...you.

And that goes for the rest of you. Without you, this world would be a very dull place.

Peace, folks...

Steve and Cris Barber
- Tuesday, December 25 2012 13:57:42

Happiest of Holidays

Harlan, Susan, and the rest of this most wonderful amalgam of man- (and woman-) kind, our best wishes for a wonderful holiday season -- regardless of whether you celebrate any holiday in particular, you CAN celebrate a season of love.

Next week is for reflection. Today is for holding those you love near, and getting nearer to those far away.

Love to you all.

Douglas Harrison
Kamloops, BC - Tuesday, December 25 2012 13:45:17

The best of the season to you all.


Phil Nichols
Birmingham, UK - Tuesday, December 25 2012 13:8:28

Will the real Ivar Jorgenson please stand up

Not an answer to the question about that specific Jorgenson-bylined story, but for the curious there is some info on users of that "floating pseudonym" in the online Encyclopedia of Science Fiction:


Seasons greetings* to all, by the way.

- Phil

*I always feel that there really ought to be an apostrophe somewhere in "seasons greetings", but will go with the crowd and leave it unpunctuated.

- Tuesday, December 25 2012 12:44:26


No, I did not write "Two to the Stars." One of the other Ivar Jorgenson's did it on his lunch-breauk, probably.


- Tuesday, December 25 2012 12:40:21


All quiet as a moue here in Ellison Wonderland. Like clockwork, every Xmas my honey comes down with the pox of one sort or another. This year's Martian Death Flu has taken the form of hushly layngitis, sore throat, and chest flu. We've taken all the nostrums and poultices for her, but she is in a woeful way. Nonetheless, the Two Little People abiding in the most beautiful storehouse of memories that ever was...wish you and yours a very very glorified Whitsuntide season. Dear to your heart is dear to ours.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Scott Lawrence <s.lawrence888@verizon.net>
- Tuesday, December 25 2012 8:33:33

Two to the Stars"
Did Harlan write the story "Two to the Stars" by Ivar Jorgensen, which appeared in the March 1955 issue of Amazing Stories? I cannot find it in the database.

Kenny Noor
- Tuesday, December 25 2012 6:21:49

Great Openings

It is the time of year for sharing, so I'd like to share this great opening by Matt Birkbeck, in his book, "Deconstructing Sammy, Music, Money and Madness." A book...not so much on Sammy Davis, rather the lawyer that tried to unravel his estate.

May 1990

It was near dawn when the pinging sound of a tiny bel resonated thorough the expansive bedroom, filtering down two short staircases to a small office, where Brian Dellow sat watching television.
The bell startled Brian, who was dozing following another all-night vigil. He jumped out of his chair and rushed up the stairs to the bedside of Sammy Davis Jr.
Racked with excruciating pain and pumped full of morphine, the great entertainer was mercifully near the end of a grueling nine-month battle with throat cancer. Months of chemotherapy and radiation treatment proved futile, and after a final stay at Cedar-Sinai Hospital in Los Angles, Sammy returned to his Beverly Hills home to die. A recent tracheotomy stilled his voice, and his neck was visibly red and bloated from the hideous, festering tumor. Also stricken with pneumonia, Sammy remained mostly unconscious, but during brief moments of clarity, he'd ring his little bell.
For Brian, who was Sammy's chief bodyguard and more important, his close friend, the ring bell often ment Sammy's legs were on fire. Or so Sammy thought. It was the cancer, which spread thought his body, and Brian gently rubbed coconut oil on legs that were now shriveled flesh on top of bone. The disease reduced Sammy, already small in stature, to a mere sixty pounds and left him nearly unrecognizable. Closer friend gasped upon first sight of him during teary-eyed visits.
Outside, reporters maintained a twenty-four-hour death vigil by the front gate of 1151 Summit Drive, television cameras at the ready one word filtered that Sammy finally succumbed. On this final morning, with daylight approaching and the end near, Brian stood next to Sammy while a nurse watch from the foot of the bed.
"You need something, boss?" said Brian.
The great entertainer was in cardiac arrest, and he weakly raised his arm and pointed his thumb downward, toward his chest, while slowly shaking his head from side to side.
Brian knew what he was trying to say.
"No boss, you can't go, we've got to pack. We have gig to play," said Brian.
Sammy smiled, reached out and held Brian's hand tightly. He closed his eyes and took his final breath.
At 5.59A.M. Sammy Davis Jr. Was gone.
His wife, Altovise, was awakened and brought to her husband's side, the ever-present scent of alcohol trailing behind. She held Sammy's hand, a million memories flashing all to quickly, moments in time that seemed so far away over a twenty year marriage-the visits to the Nixon White House, the goodwill trip to Vietnam, the hundreds of shows in London, New York, Las Vegas, and all points in between and of course, the never-ending parties. From private dinners with the Sinatras to the "Party of the Century" in 1980- a $100,00 royal feast the Davises hosted here, at their twenty -two-room home attended by every political, sports and entrainment star in Hollywood and beyond. But those were the good times, and now, it was all over.
During the months prior to Sammy's death, his employees looted his home of memorabilia, jewellery, and artwork while Attovise quietly squirreled away money, property and possession. She sent FedEx packages filled with cash, jewelry, and other valuable to friends and family throughout the country and overseas, placed thirteen fir coats in a local storage shop and hid her Rolls-Royce in Las Vegas.
After kissing her dead husband on the cheek, Altovise quickly removed the remaining jewelry from his body.
Before Sammy was buried, she took his glass eye.

Cologne - Tuesday, December 25 2012 6:21:11

Demon with a Glass Hand review at TV Time With Bob

The results of the Locus all-time best 20th/21st century SF&F novels poll

- Tuesday, December 25 2012 1:49:55

let's take that proverbial chill pill

Todd Cassel
Phoenix, AZ/USofA - Tuesday, December 25 2012 1:36:56

Adam-Troy is Genius
Adam-Troy, I had to pipe in to tell you how much I loved your neighborly greeting (posted 12/18)

That was a beauty of a post. I sure hope you typed it up and slipped it under her door.


Robert Ewen
Harrow, Middx - Tuesday, December 25 2012 1:35:37

United Kingdom
Happy Nackles Day one and all!

Rob & Paul E.

Beautiful Northridge, CA - Monday, December 24 2012 15:54:55

"The world stands with us." -- Obama

Sleep in heavenly peace, little ones....


Chuck Messer
- Monday, December 24 2012 15:38:38

Just wanted to wish everyone of youse a nice holiday. Happiness to all within our world-wide community.

Jeff R.:

What soul? Why, that shriveled, deformed little mandrake root with teeth, of course.


Dennis C
Glendale, CA - Monday, December 24 2012 15:7:48

Happy Holidays
Happy Holidays to our wonderful hosts, Harlan and Susan, and to all Webderlanders and Pavilioners!

Jeff R.
Philly, - Monday, December 24 2012 9:42:58

Chuck Messer:
WHAT soul?

Tim Richmond
- Monday, December 24 2012 8:30:24

Sorry it took so long. "Parasite" first appeared in "Zip" #7, 8/55. "Fool's Mate" was in "Crinfanac" #6, 2/58. "Star Route" first appeared in "Infinity" #3 10/55. This is not the pulp digest of the same name. It is an earlier fanzine in which Harlan's essay "The Spate Continues" also appeared in issue #2. We good? Happy Days To You All, TR

Shane Shellenbarger <ShaneSS@gmail.com>
Phoenix, AZ - Sunday, December 23 2012 23:27:45

Carl Reiner makes a joke.
Carl Reiner said, "Do you know the difference between a Frenchman and a Jew? A Frenchman leaves and never says goodbye, a Jew says goodbye and never leaves."

You can watch Jerry Seinfeld, Carl Reiner, and Mel Brooks here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4czusJ8YLCg

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Sunday, December 23 2012 21:13:53

BEN: Nah, not HOME ALONE. More CALVIN & HOBBES, with occasional forays into the land of imagination.

And he giggles and cackles...


Ben Winfield
- Sunday, December 23 2012 19:31:42

All I Want for Christmas...

...is a radical new adaptation of Dickens's A CHRISTMAS CAROL starring Harlan as Scrooge and directed by Terry Gilliam, with Scrooge setting traps for the three ghosts inside his house HOME ALONE-style.

Oh, and Ray Bradbury fills Jacob Marley's role.

jimmy <jmyjoekokomo@earthlink.net>
CITY OF ANGELS formerly WINDY, - Sunday, December 23 2012 12:3:58

All this talk of the Gargoyles makes me curious about the progress of the Coffee Table Book of ELLISON WONDERLAND (Lost Aztec Temple of Mars). Prospects still looking good? Pick any photos? Photographers?

My sincerest best to all of you and yours.


Chuck Messer
- Saturday, December 22 2012 19:25:6

I took a look at photos of the gargoyles. The Nixon is my favorite. The sculptor captured his soul. I wonder how he would have portrayed Dick Cheney? Something Cthulu-like comes to mind.


Clifford Meth <cliffmeth@aol.com>
The Ruins of NJ, - Saturday, December 22 2012 16:20:19

STEVE--Thanks for making the call. I didn't want to. I called once and Harlan said, "Who died?" and decided never again to be the wheelbarrow of bad news to people I love, godfathers insisting on hearing bad news "right away" notwithstanding.

HARLAN--You see? I kept my promise.

- Saturday, December 22 2012 12:4:44

Inspired By The "Gargoyles"

At some point, I think I'll do my OWN version of this idea. From penciling them out to digital rendering (I don't do statues), I'll make a landscape poster of "Seven Deadly Sins". One of 'em will be Cheney (which I already did 2 years ago), another is certain to be Bush. The forest is so full of shit these days, however, that it might take me a bit of musing to decide about the remaining 5.

Never knew about the Gargoyles. I'd love to see 'em.

Jim Hess
Colorado - Saturday, December 22 2012 8:38:49

Mrs. Ellison,

Through your Herculean efforts, HERC arrived! Thank you.

Frank Church
- Saturday, December 22 2012 6:16:13

That gargoyle story was really interesting. Damn, that dude has a million stories. He should write em down.


Bob Morales, the NRA just sealed their fate. When you have Peggy Noonan, Joe Scarborough and others saying guns have to be looked at, you know the NRA is insane. Not a well group of folks.

We knew that, but it takes time for the rubes.


Tell the truth guys, if I were to say Lyndon Johnson was evil people like Barney would be all over me.

I have a feeling Harlan didn't think Reagan was evil. I don't either. He was a mere dupe. Just a dope who knew how to read the cue cards.


Barney, love or hate, happy holidays.

St. Pete, FL - Saturday, December 22 2012 4:34:54

From the photo on ebay, it looks more like a grotesque than a gargoyle, which usually has a spout to drain water.

Tim Raven <timraven@gmail.com>
Burbank, CA - Saturday, December 22 2012 0:29:30

The Gargoyle Imbroglio, and other stuff.
All of you listen to me and listen to me close. If any of you motherfuckers steal a gargoyle from Harlan’s house I will do the following…I will give you a look that will make you immediately drop to your knees and start crying…and then at that moment, I will shred off your flimsy garb and whether you are male or female I could fucking care less brutally fuck you anally with my barbed hellhound penis.

It has these painfully sharp poisoned barbs.

Really. They shred.

And Shame on You for stealing stuff you Corn Hole. You just got your lower intestine plowed.

So there.

Shadowdude…I’m correcting you because you are wrong….you are violating the comma and parentheses rule again…reference the “barbed penis reaming” mentioned above and be careful ahh..ahh…ah…!

So, no Armageddon today after all.

Damn, and I had a shitload of guns and butter all ready…
Janet Gameche – I loved your poem…finding the right gift is a crazy thing, yes?

By my count, that was four double dog triple posts avoided by me being a pre-planning rational kinda guy….Hell, I survived another fucking day, good for me, and you!

Take it easy….


- Friday, December 21 2012 20:41:2

Did anyone ever notice that if someone uses the phrase "as is his/her/ their wont" nothing good ever follows it? I think there should be a thesauri for phrases like that. Sorry for the 2 posts.

Ben Winfield
- Friday, December 21 2012 20:34:35

I spent my last night on earth watching DOCTOR WHO. In hindsight, I should have put on CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER instead.

Diane Bartels <dianebartels99 @comcast.net>
Merrionette Park, IL - Friday, December 21 2012 19:38:42

Harlan, you hold a grudge? No never. (Dodges flying dead gopher.)

- Friday, December 21 2012 19:23:29


I don't know that anyone wants to get embroiled in any way with the "stolen" gargoyle situation that a number of you--thank you Mr. Barber for the first heads-up phone call--have advised me is currently being up for sale on the web. See previous posts. Here's the story, as best I can figger it out:

More than forty years ago, when I had them sculpted for me--six of them--based on Virgil Finlay etchings, one each representing Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard Nixon, Alexander Haig, Pyllis Schlaffly, ex-Secretary of the Interior James Watt, and J. Edgar Hoover--all then alive, actively evil, and each on my Most Despised List at the time (though I now fudge it sometimes and say it's "Anne Coulter" rather than the shrike Schlaffly)--they were done in HydroCal by the designer of all the special models in Dracula's Castle at Universal Studios, the celebrated Carl Surges. He destroyed the molds after a short time (I was assured). One or two them I stored in our ancillary warehousing. They were installed in situ with gigantic lag bolts that went through the porch outside my office, under the decking and entranceway, into the house itself. Noneheless, within three months (I presume a couple of tall kids from the prep school down in the Valley, wretched scions of Industry Leeches) stood one upon the other's shoulders and yanked and yanked--one night, when Susan and I were out--and managed to pull lose the Nixon, probably doing it severe damage. We found no rubble or traces of it, but... We found scuff marks on the high wall, ten feet up. Fortunately, one of the two molds I'd saved from Surges (allegedly) having trashed them, as they were private commissions and not to be reproduced, was the Nixon.

Carl remolded it, a slightly lighter colored because of the aging of the other five; and it was installed. Forty years ago. I then proeeded to embargo the artwork with a barrier of razor ribbon wire as used in maximum security prisons below the sculptures; and there they've remained secure. None ever disappeared. All remain in place to this moment. (We once caught a guy hanging on the ribbon; he fell down a lotta times before the cops got to him; otherwise, we've never been bothered.) Until this online bullshit surfaced.

A year or so ago, the gargoyle of Watt appeared on Amazon. It purported to be (as, apparently, does this one) "from Harlan Ellison's house." That was a lie. Neither is this one. The purveyor knows what he's got, but is too venal to also perceive the tiger he has by the tail. It isn't the stolen Nixon, which has long since gone to some high school dumpster, the idiots who filched it having no idea what it was they were punk'ing that long-ago night.

As best I can figure, from the appearance of the Watt last year (this may be the same one unsold from its previous exposure), it must have been ripped off fom one of Surges's undestroyed molds. I have no problem with Carl making an extra buck...if he's still working...but if anyone chooses to let the seller (who has not had the simple courtesy of checking provenance with me--I ain't that hard to find) know that advertising it as "from Harlan Ellison's house" is deceptive advertising, punishable by legal action, or that it's stolen merchandise...I certainly won't fault you, justice must be served, etc. Poltroons should know who they're fucking with here. I hold grudges, as you may have heard.

Keep me apprised on this, if you choose. But rest assured, all six of my deniens of infamy are enconsed on the lintel of my li'l Lost Aztec Temple of Mars, right behind me as I type this.

This update--proofed as best I could--comes to you via

Yr. Pal, Harlan

JOE WEHRLE, JR. <wehrle1@verizon.net>
Punxsutawney, PA - Friday, December 21 2012 18:45:30

For any of you who grew up, or were of high school or college age in Western Pennsylvania between the "60s and the "80s, a staple of your life was probably the Saturday night Chiller Theater on Pittsburgh TV, hosted by Bill (Chilly Billy) Cardille. The movies were usually pretty lame, but the funny/weird in-betweens with Chilly Billy and his cohorts made them all seem like family after a short while. One of the best things about the show was the wonderful, spooky, R&B sax and guitar theme. I've wanted a copy of this for a LONG time, but didn't know what title to search for. A few nights ago, I was listening online to Penthouse Radio as I frequently do, and I HEARD the song, not the version, but the song! I hurried to the computer to look at the listing, and the title is Experiment in Terror, written by Henry Mancini. Who knew? Of course, if I had ever chanced to see the movie, Experiment in Terror, I might have remembered the theme, but no such luck. So then, with the help of Google, I learned that the version Chilly Billy used was by Al Caiola, and I located a near-mint, shrink-wrapped vinyl of the Best of Al Caiola, containing the song, on eBay for $6.71. It was like finding the last finger for the glass hand.

- Friday, December 21 2012 14:11:46


Hey, baby:

Thanks for the thanks, and thanks for the book. When able, I'll
be doing some reading. Holidays of congratulations to our new Full Pro.

Yr. Pal, Harlan

Steve Barber <barbergallery@verizon.net>
- Friday, December 21 2012 13:55:8

CLIFFORD - I just spoke w/Harlan and the gargoyle is a copy from the same mold, but the stolen beastie was a different one.

I may post a nasty comment just for style...

For those of you following the ROOMMATE situation here at Casa Peluquero, we have wonderful news to report.

(If you really want the notes, check out the Forum Shoppes where all manner of conversations may be purchased for your edification.)

As of today she has wired the money to their bank, effectively the last step to closing escrow. In addition, she gave Cris a card containing a little money for the both of us which was very sweet, thoughtful and appreciative. In it she noted that -- because of her losses this year (mother, home, etc) -- she hadn't planned on celebrating Christmas and that we had given her the motivation to do so.

Some time later today I will be putting up a blog entry using shots from my trip to Joshua Tree last weekend. The subject is how traveling in childhood can have an impact many, many years later.


the Shadow
- Friday, December 21 2012 13:35:11

an addendum to my humble suggestion
As is his wont, Mr. Dannelke confused himself and the situation a bit. If you go back, and read carefully, my suggestion was to stick to _promoting only Ellison products (i.e. books, CDs, etc.)_ on Pavilion, and save the forums in the Pavilion Annex for promoting our own books, CDs, columns, TV shows, etc. I _wasn't_ suggesting we limit the talk and the posts here to only things about Harlan Ellison (heck, even Harlan would get bored with that).

Happy, Merry.

- Friday, December 21 2012 13:30:29

End Of The World phobia is one of my favorite camp sub-genres.

It's always great for a laugh when I'm down.

With that, a comment about how tricky it is to pull off camp comedy with success:

One of these cable retro channels is currently running the 60's BATMAN comedy series. For the first time, I've been able to see full seasons and really listen to the dialog. I am now convinced very few producers in movies or tv have ever been able to equal its level in this STYLE of camp. Irwin Allen tried it. So did the great George Pal. As did many a no-name producer throughout the 70's and 80's. Their efforts were STUPID...but in ALL the wrong ways! The old color episodes of LOST IN SPACE, for instance, which I saw recently, were like a dull, lower-grade version of Sesame Street (the late Guy Williams, who was intelligent and charismatic, disparaged it as "the cutes"). The TRICK everyone seemed to miss is to make the schtick stupid, but CLEVERLY stupid! They never got the knack for the lines, which, in BATMAN, were a slight-of-hand making dumb absolutely brilliant.

In one episode, Batman, hammy as ever, runs for Mayor of Gotham against the Penguin. Certain most people would never support that slimebag, Batman states, "the voters aren't that gullible, Robin!" Abruptly, we cut to the Penguin's campaign speech, attended by just about the WHOLE population cheering to its rhetorical promises!

The timing totally broke me up!

In another, I think, again, it was Penguin, found the evil-doers (forgive the Bushism) deliberately locking themselves in a vault. Batman and Gordon's police squad could do nothing to get to them. Now, the bad guys have been in there - up to a plan not yet clear - for DAYS! Robin finally asks, "how do they...?" Batman cuts him off, "I don' know, Robin!" Obviously asking about toilet matters.

Then there was the priceless Julie Newmar, a brilliantly funny chick, who did her Catwoman as a perennial come-on trying to shake Batman out of his boyscout morality.

I've never found an effort at the genre equal to the skill displayed in this show - from ANY period. I don't think anyone understood what made it work! It's a tricky genre, and the 60's BATMAN stands entirely on its own.


Clifford Meth <cliffmeth@aol.com>
- Friday, December 21 2012 13:7:27

I'll take the lack of responses as no one knows.

Jeff R. again
Stlll Philly, - Friday, December 21 2012 12:46:44

Oops! I dood it again!
Only ONE "i" in "given," very obviously!

Jeff R.
Philly, - Friday, December 21 2012 12:44:48

In case I don't get a chance to post here again before Christmas, best wishes to all for as happy and peaceful a season as possible these days, giiven the increasingly sad, downright crazy world in which we live.

For Clifford Meth: without making light of Harlan's loss... how does one steal a gargoyle???

shagin <smodell1995@yahoo.com>
Bremerton, Washington - Friday, December 21 2012 12:37:34

Of course the world didn't end today. It's YJ's 17th birthday and he wants to celebrate.

I'm too young for him to be this old.


Robert Morales
New York City, New York - Friday, December 21 2012 9:21:5

Every time a gun zealot holds a press conference to hide the blood on his hands, I am mindful of this breathtaking exemplar of self-rationalizing bullshit:

'At the end of the nineteenth century, a well-known French lawyer, M. de Rochefort, successfully defended his client, an anarchist caught red-handed with a bomb, with the following argument: "I don't deny that my client was carrying a bomb. But this doesn't prove that he was going to use it. After all, I myself always carry with me everything I'd need to commit a rape."'

- Sylvere Lotringer, "Overexposed: Treating Sexual Perversion in America" (1988)

Barney Dannelke <dannelke@gmail.com>
Allentown, Pennsylvania - Friday, December 21 2012 7:36:49

Frank can tell me what my subject header ought to be.
Mr. Keeney beat me to the punch this morning. For that alone I wish him a joyous holiday season. Perhaps Rick Wyatt, in some future iteration of this site could give Frank Church his own page or list or forum or whatever and we could all decide if we wanted to subscribe to it. Barring that, perhaps introduce a filter so I could come in here and check for Harlan news and posts without even having to scroll past his name and whatever marching orders his personal mental sunspots happen to be dictating on any given - and every single - day?

Regards - Barney Dannelke

Keeney <rick_keeney@yahoo.com>
Minneapolis, MN - Friday, December 21 2012 7:12:4


"...(all Frank Church, all the time, and so on)."

freakin' hilarious. ya kill me.

Out of here for the holidays. Seasons Bleatings, and all that happy horse shit.

Until then,


Jim Thomas
Birmingham, AL, - Friday, December 21 2012 6:45:45

Meanwhile, on Mars...

Tony Isabella <tonyisa@ohio.net>
Medina, Ohio - Friday, December 21 2012 5:32:42

Not the End of the World
Apparently, the world did not end. I'm good with that. On the other hand, anyone who chose "The NRA will fight against any ban on assault weapons" in the pool was a winner.

Diane Bartels <dianebartels99 @comcast.net>
Merrionette Park, IL - Thursday, December 20 2012 23:18:59

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