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Postby LarryF » Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:27 pm

I just saw Sicko, Michael Moore's latest documentary. I loved it. It was awesome. Surely we can all agree that the medical system in this country is fucked--and not only for those who don't have health insurance. How to unfuck it is the question. Moore's answer is universal health care, which, when mentioned in the halls of Congress or the White House, produces a reaction similar to that of the citizenry of Tokyo when Godzilla comes a-stompin' through: Run away! Run away!

Moore is an excellent propagandist--and I mean that in the best sense of the term. He plays masterfully on the emotions of the audience, and, while I'm more of a "Just the facts, ma'am," type, I know that there are some issues about which we should be emotional.

You will chuckle here, get a bit teary-eyed there, but ultimately you will be angry: Angry at the heartless comments of John Ehrlichmann and Richard Nixon in 1971; angry at the hospitals which dump the mentally and physically ill on skid row; angry at the politicians in Washington, DC, who have the best health care our taxes can provide, being whores for the insurance industry; and you'll be angry that the suspected terrorists in Guantanamo Bay get better health care than many Americans.

Oh yeah, one more thing: in France doctors still make housecalls.

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Postby FrankChurch » Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:51 pm

Larry, you wonderful man.

Will see it tonight, very soon after I respond here.

I don't like the term propaganda being used when mentioning my Michael. The term is used only for people who knowingly want to deceive with falsehoods; as a way to sway the public mind--et al. Bernays.

No other person gets the kind of unfair treatment that Michael Moore gets. Much of this is from envy. Liberals hate to see a fellow lib be more successful then them.

Will report tomorrow. Luvs and kisses.

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Postby LarryF » Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:34 pm

Frank, be sure to stay for ALL the credits at the end, because Moore mentions Kurt Vonnegut. The latter is a true secular saint. Even though he would object to such a designation. We love ya, KV!

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Postby FrankChurch » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:08 am

Larry, saw it, loved the film. I laughed, I cried--damn that Moore loves to pull the switches on you--I had a great time; was really pissed off and angry at the system. Wanted to take names, kill in the name of the flag and all that is holy. People in ivory towers letting babies die because of a fucking check! I think Moore handled the Cuba stuff pretty well. Now I know why Bush tried to fry him on that. Cuba comes off pretty good.

Critics want him to be even handed. Noone ever asks Rush or Annie Nazi to be even handed. CNN mentions that Moore gets most of the numbers right. That must have hurt them. I bet the program director at the network is going to get one of those late night calls, you know the one with the voice that sounds like doom coming from Mount Olympus.

Too bad in America you cannot force people to see a film. They really need to see this. We need to change this system, or pretty soon the neo-fascists are going to take over.

Moore makes a good case for Socialism, even though that was not his intention. Silent footsteps are the best. Ta.


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Ironic turn of events: I check my email and find out my 15 year old niece is fucking pregnant. What the fuck? Now I think I am sick.

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Postby LarryF » Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:11 pm

Glad you liked Sicko, Frank. But I'm not at all surprised. Say what one will about Michael Moore, pro or con, there's no denying that our health care system sucks abundantly. In a nation that spends half a TRILLION dollars a year on "defense," and which cut taxes to the tune of a trillion dollars, surely we can find the cash to help the helpless.

My blood boiled when I saw those two women dumped on skid row. I wanted to punch somebody when I heard that lady talk of her late husband, who was denied treatment by their insurance company because it was "experimental." I wanted to shout, "You go, Frogs!" when I learned that doctors in France still make house calls.

To me, the one statement which summed up the film was made near the end, when Moore was expounding upon the differences between our dysfunctional system and that of the nations he'd visited. "They live in a world of we--not me." BINGO! We here in the greatest nation of all time, God's personal fav, land of the free and home of the brave, are Social Darwinists: we admire a "nature red in tooth and claw"; "I've got mine, Jack," as the Brits are wont to say; or "Let them eat cake" as dear Marie supposedly put it, before her head rolled.

But when I look up, waaay up, to the tippy top of the socio-economic pyramid, I see ... George W. Bush. I realize then that wealth and power do not necessarily accrue to those most deserving--or deserving at all. Just because this waste of DNA, this spawn of Bar, this son of a Bush, spewed forth from a privileged pussy, his path in life was kept clear of dog shit and strewn with roses. And when this man, this laughably self-proclaimed "compassionate conservative," whose favorite philosopher was one Jesus Christ, ascended to the most powerful position on the planet, did he try to help the downtrodden, the poor, the reviled? Hell no! His motto should've been: "We're rich. Now let's get richer, motherfuckers!"

There are times when I regret that I am not religious, as such folk have not only the hope of Heaven, but the entertainment of Hell. To see G.W. Bush and his greedy, amoral, neocon thugs writhing in the fire and brimstone would do my vengeful soul good. And should Jesus stroll past, tap me on the shoulder and say, "You really should be more forgiving, Larry," I'd say, "Piss off! I dig this. And by the way, the popcorn needs more salt."

Dream come true. Doobie doobie doo ...

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Postby FrankChurch » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:14 pm

Michael interviewed on CNBC!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pcuw-_AOk6g

He kicks Maria to the curb, literally, since the NYSE actually banned Mike from entering. Ha, classic.

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Postby FrankChurch » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:51 pm

God, the arrogance of the mainstream media knows no bounds. Michael on Good Morning Hitler, I mean America:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=G9mgtWqT8ww

It's not journalism, it's a stunt. Blah blah. But they did get the healthcare, didn't they cocksucker? And for five fucking cents. Blow dried cockroach under the scrap table at Disney's pig roast.

Maybe Rosie was the sane one.

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Postby Steve Evil » Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:05 pm

It astounds me that there aren't more revenge killings in America. I know that if one of my family members died because some beaurocrat wouldn't pay for the treatment, I'd stab that beaurocrat in the eye with a letter opener. And you've got all those guns too. . .

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Postby FrankChurch » Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:43 pm

Steve, ah, bad day?

Two cookies for my favorite fellow anarchist.

Actually, these corporations could be charged with manslaughter; you would think that would be an easy charge that could stick. But imagine being outgunned by a cadre of about five million silk suited lawyer types, the types that slept in ethics class.

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Postby Steve Evil » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:43 pm

I guess I just can't get over that one scene. The guy who died from a bone marrow disorder. They could have stopped that. They found a match! He could have lived!

They said no.

They let him die, but they found a match! He could have lived!

It's not like the disease got too far. It's not like the transplant didn't work.

They didn't let the transplant take place. They didn't even try. They didn't operate.

But they had a match! They could have saved him! He could have lived!

How is that not murder?

Meanwhile, you got Cindy over on the boards telling folks MY country's system is a death sentence.

What kinda cookies?

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Postby FrankChurch » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:52 pm

Nobody else noticed all the interracial couples. I think Moore was trying to make the movie as universal as possible.

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Postby Ezra Lb. » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:58 pm

You liars!

We have the bestest medical system in the whole wide world!

You want good medical care, then by god get out there and work hard, obey the rules, WORSHIP THE LORD THY GOD, don't try to change anything, make a million dollars and you won't have any problems.



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Postby FrankChurch » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:02 pm

Ayn Rand would have fucked you with that line.

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Postby Ezra Lb. » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:09 pm

I deny my essence to bad writers.
“We must not always talk in the marketplace,” Hester Prynne said, “of what happens to us in the forest.”
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Postby Lori Koonce » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:30 pm

Ezra Lb. wrote:You liars!

We have the bestest medical system in the whole wide world!

You want good medical care, then by god get out there and work hard, obey the rules, WORSHIP THE LORD THY GOD, don't try to change anything, make a million dollars and you won't have any problems.



Slackers.


Ezra

While I respect your right to free speach, I'm gonna ask you a simple question. You sound just like all those consertives out there..... So, "If a million people say a stupid thing, does that make it any less stupid?"

I can't remember who said that, but it's a truth I've lived a very hard life learning.

Children, the elderly and the mentaly ill don't have the luxury of hard work. Why should they suffer the slings and arrows of poor health care. Why should I, a person who is doing her best to be a productive member of society, suffer poor health care because of a few bad siituations I have suffered.

You are sounding like a Social Darwinist, and they are the most vile people on the planet IMHO. Screw all of you who don't have that silver spoon shoved up your nose at birth.
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