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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:46 pm
by Harlan Ellison
Source: unca20090603.htm
Sara, thank you.

Harlan Ellison

RIP Ozzy's Career 1968-2009

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:54 pm
by Duane
Name: Duane
Source: unca20090603.htm
The real tragedy with Osbournes Reloaded (or whatever it's called) is that it's most likely the final dagger in the musical heart of one of our legendary musical pioneers (to most of us of a certain age, anyway).

Musically, Black Sabbath buried the '60's. Vanilla Fudge and Deep Purple (Mk I) and a few others were making an unholy noise on the musical landscape, but Sabbath was the belching, farting bulldozer from hell that shoved everything in its path into a shallow grave, leaving nothing but the random hand of an infant quivering briefly above the treads. And Ozzy was the one at the helm with his arms spread in satanic majesty, commanding his minions with that one of a kind otherworldly voice.

Fast forward a few generations. Half of the original Sabbath bravely (and quite successfully) soldier on under the moniker Heaven and Hell. The lineup has done two tours, and a new album is due to be released later this spring. Meanwhile, there's the (one time) Great and Powerful Ozz making an ass of himself with his wife and two bored, uninteresting kids reading lines off cue cards with all the charisma of door knobs, pulling transparent "pranks" on audience members who were either in on the jokes from the start, or truly have asparagus between the ears.

It really makes me weep to see the Britney Spears-ization of one of my musical heroes. But then again, if anyone can rise from the dead, Ozzy can. He's done it before.

He's not getting any younger, though. But I aged ten years the other night. After all, I'm a man of a certain age.

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:53 pm
by W. Powell
Name: W. Powell
Source: unca20090603.htm
"One day I played Black Sabbath at 78 speed, man." "Black Sa..? And THEN what happened??" "I saw G-d, man."
-- Cheech and Chong, "Big Bambu"

On the topic of Ozzy's ongoing tv embarrassment, only one "reality" show out there was ever worth a damn anyway, and it was made right here in B-town:

(You'll need Quicktime and some patience to view the clips, but it's well worth the effort. Years ago during one of the Snyder interviews, HE commented that he knew television was dead when he saw some of Letterman's old show; he'd have come to that conclusion a hell of a lot faster had he ever seen the above in its heyday.)

Josh Olson - made the mistake of actually popping over to that LiveJournal entry and reading that guy's drivel. The one and only difference between Ann Coulter and a velociraptor is that they eventually had the decency to go extinct. But it looks like just maybe that asteroid's about to hit, in any event.

Of Blacksploitation movies and Velociraptors

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:11 pm
by shagin
Name: shagin
Source: unca20090603.htm
Nice commentary, Josh. A fun read with a number of good points.

Can I hope the Right wing Barbie and her plastic clone Kens get eaten by a velociraptor?


Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:04 am
by FrankChurch
Name: Frank Church
Source: unca20090603.htm
Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy!!!!

Chains Duane to the 16th century, but unworkable irom maiden. Lifts his shirt and flogs him without mercy. Brandishes a hot poker and burns Duane, making the infernal 3 sixes. Plays Celine Dion, REAL LOUD! Puts a rat on his head and cheese in his ears.

Donnnnt youuuuu evvvveerrrr disss Ozzzzzy aaaaggaaaaiiinnn!

Up The Irons, ya mushy mookster.


Warren Oates is the goat God.


David Silver, waves!

Worldcon and "The Big Front Yard"

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:21 am
by Midnight
Name: Mary
Source: unca20090603.htm
I loved "The Big Front Yard"! That is one of my favorite stories...Clifford Simak is a master storyteller. I remember first reading it in a collection called "The Hugo Winners".

I also remember Isaac Asimov's very funny introductions to each story...and his particular frustration with one writer who was handsome, witty, and had a way with the ladies. Yeah trying to remember the guy's name...he had a story or two in of them was called "I have No Mouth and I Must Scream"...I think he also wrote a story about a harlequin...

I can't think of the guy...all I know is he seemed to drive Dr. Asimov nuts with his good looks and sparkling personality.

It'll come to me...just give me a minute.

Nah...can't think of the fellow.

Let it go

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:34 am
by Barney Dannelke
Name: Barney Dannelke
Source: unca20090603.htm
*** Frank *** I gotta side with Duane here. For better or worse (worse for the most part) I came up with metal in the 1970's. Owned, and still own all of the early Sabbath catalog. Played MASTER OF REALITY and SABBATH, BLOODY SABBATH until they were gray.

Youth. Testosterone. Stupidity.
But I already said youth, didn't I?

OZZY has his own you-freaking-name-it corporate brand products and has been an ass-clown and total hollowed out corporate shill and tool since, I dunno, at least 1981. Maybe earlier. He is a major cultural embarrassment and very much a demonstrative sign of the problem of what we are passing off as "entertainment" these days. Old Ozzy? Four fingers up. OZZY of the last three decades? A distant landfill would be my suggestion.

And as I type this I am listening my way through the 15 disk complete Riverside recordings of Thelonious Monk, but have broken it up with a liberal sprinkling of Tom Waits, Nick Cave and some old Misfits because 15 hours of great jazz is like 15 hours of anything and needs a little contrast. This is also why Mark Twain and I both fear heaven - for the consistency.

So, to review Frank, you are balls deep correct about Prince and somewhat misguided about OZZY.


And to bring this needlessly around to our subject/host I would submit that while anyone who has known Harlan for more than 24 hours has had an occasion to feel mild embarrassment (usually immediately preceded or followed by tremendous respect) Harlan has never done anything one third has irritating by accident as OZZY has set out to do every day, on purpose to further the ends of his corporate masters.

- Barney Dannelke

Iommi, PA.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:09 am
by Ezra Lb.
Name: Ezra
Source: unca20090603.htm
Yeah Barney's right let's cut Ozzy some slack. Sure the Sabbs weren't all that great as musicians (they tended to play the same song over and over, first fast then slow) but they were fun! The mighty oak is first an acorn and I too am not disposed to apologize for my misspent youth.

Generals gathered in their mass-esss
Just like witches at black mass-esss
Evil minds that plot dee-struct-ion
Sorcerers of death's construct-ion
In the fields the bodies burn-eeeng
As the war machine keeps turn-eeeng
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
Oh lord yeah!

Come on brothers and sisters who remembers the second...uh...."verse"?


Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:47 am
by The Dreaded Slaymaker
Name: Sara Slaymaker
Source: unca20090603.htm
Any time, Kemosabe. Je vous en prie.

JOSH OLSON: Thank you for turning me on to Trailers From Hell. I had no idea it existed until you mentioned it. What a fabulous site. I look forward to hours of serious entertainment.

One question - are there any plans for "Humanoids of the Deep"?

Decline and Fall.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:51 am
by Gordon
Name: Gordon
Source: unca20090603.htm
Frank Church must be very unintelligent indeed if he evaluates human history according to a negro president. Who also supports the Patriot Act which would seem to conflict with Church's other ignorant comments. But the negro factor seems to overrule Church's other sentimental liberal stupidities. How about AIDS which has already killed more people than the Black Death, or Global Warming or corporate media concentration? But Church's limited cultural experience (Ozzy Osbourne, etc) doesn't allow him to see that there is no better writer than William Shakespeare, that the Catholic Church underwrote more art than any other institution in history, that most of the New Hollywood is a Scientology cult as compared to when it was traditionally Judeo-Christian and making masterpieces like Gone With the Wind, that most of the practical consequences resulting from the scientific revolution is junk food and cable TV and a couple of trips to the moon when John Kennedy was president, that Eisenhower was a better president than Church's MTV (a Viacom company) Obamessiah wrongheadedness. Do you really believe that say New York City was better in 1960 than it is today? Get real. The overall disorder of the world is continually increasing.

ENTROPY: The natural tendency of all matter and energy in the universe to evolve towards a state of inert uniformity.

Decline and Fall

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:56 am
by Gordon
Name: Gordon
Source: unca20090603.htm
Sorry. That should be, "Do you really believe that say New York City is better TODAY than it was in 1960."

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:30 am
by Moderator
Name: Steve Barber
Source: unca20090603.htm

Well. Wasn't THAT ("Gordon's" post) just an anonymous little hate mail?

"Negro"? Yes, you're certainly among the more enlightened among us with references like that.

"Sentimental Liberal"? Yes, far better to be an uncaring, coldhearted Conservative. Nice attitude, which is largely to blame for the financial disaster Bush has bequeathed us.

"the Catholic Church underwrote more art than any other institution in history"? Yes, they did. No question. They have also committed some of the most serious breaches of human rights, but let's not credit them for that, since none of the current church nor its members committed those acts. Then again, using that logic can we credit them with commissioning the Sistine Chapel's ceiling???

"that most of the New Hollywood is a Scientology cult"? And you base this upon what connection you have to New Hollywood??? Reading the National Enquirer doesn't qualify as an unimpeachable source. Nor does Wikipedia.

"a couple of trips to the moon when John Kennedy was president"? Wrong history book. The flights (more than a couple) occurred many years after Kennedy's death.

"that Eisenhower was a better president than Church's MTV (a Viacom company) Obamessiah wrongheadedness"? It cracks me up no end that Conservatives are attacking Obama after two whole months in office, after blindly following Bush down a destrcutive path for eight very long years. If the current economy doesn't convince you Bush made a "few" mistakes, perhaps you ought to servce some time on the unemployment line to drive the point home. And, barring that, take a look at your savings account, 401k, home value or other measurement of Bush's policy "successes". (Rewriting history and ignoring reality isn't a reliable practice, at least for the long run. Americans, despite Cheney's attempts to prove otherwise, aren't quite THAT dim.)

"Do you really believe that say New York City was better in 1960 than it is today"? And exactly how long ago, Gordon, were you in New York? Just asking, given your seeming authority on the subject.

A really ugly not there Mr Gecko. Just nasty. Bigoted, cruel, ignorant and ugly.

Thank you for proving the point we have been trying to make for some time: some people just don't get it. Limbaugh isn't the majority, he's just an angry man who is paid -- quite handsomely -- to rant irrationally, just so people like you Gordon, can tch, tch their tongues at how the rest of us have despoiled "your" world.

going again

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:32 am
by Barney Dannelke
Name: Barney Dannelke
Source: unca20090603.htm
The anonymous Gordon wrote;

"if he evaluates human history according to a negro president."

I have no doubt others are going to pounce on the rest of what you wrote. Don't know if you are baiting or trolling or sincere and don't really much care. You wrote it so here we go.

What exactly is it about your point(s) that requires the use of the word negro in that sentence? Shall we now, by your standard, refer to all the previous presidents and any that may follow as "white presidents?" May I refer to you as "white Gordon?" - or some other racial profile or term? If you have friends who are married or have children do you think of all them with racial modifiers first? His white children? Her white husband. My white Aunt's negro boss? Just what was the point? And where do these modifiers start and end for you? And most importantly, why?

Take a day or two to think about your response. I'll be here next week.

Regards - Barney Dannelke

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:40 am
by Moderator
Name: Steve Barber
Source: unca20090603.htm

"A really ugly notE there Mr Gecko"

(Though "not there" also carries meaning)

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:41 am
by Gordon
Name: Gordon
Source: unca20090603.htm
Since we can only know what people are like by what they do, no other period of human history is so empty of any accomplishment than the present one. Choose any field you like, politics, literature, painting, film, even rock music, and the past will show up better. Science Fiction has certainly become progressively worse, ever since feminists and similar shrill political loony birds, came on board.And science is something that can only be done once, and each succeeding scientific discovery is necessarily less significant than the earlier one, it seems unlikely that there will ever again be such great scientists as Darwin or Einstein. The structure of DNA can only be discovered once, and James Watson already did that. If such people as Obama cast such large shadows today, it only shows how late in the day it is.

Why did the United Negro College Fund use the word Negro? White liberal college professors made it offensive.