Pavilion Digest: April 2009

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Postby FrankChurch » Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:30 pm

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Great interview here with Fran Lebowitz:

http://airamerica.com/breakroomlive

She makes the case for lazyness. Rents got so big in New York that people have to work 24 hours a day just to live. Great art, in her mind, comes from looking at the world, thinking things through, exploring, in essence, not working all the time--being lazy. You have to connect with the muse. You cannot do that when you worry about keeping the heat on. Very wise, radical opinion.

San Francisco is losing all the creative types because of high rents. The city wants the yuppie, Ivy league scum that went to Harvard Business School, the kind of dregs that are now holding Obama hostage. Too bad.

Day dreaming is what makes good art. You cannot daydream when the man is yelling for you to get back to tamping out widgets.

Gotta love it.

We need a 35 hour workweek, to be sure.



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Postby fc » Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:36 pm

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Source: unca20090603.htm
Happy Passover, happy Easter...kiss an arab, kiss a bunny. Slap the Pope, offend nature. Amen.



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Break Room Live

Postby Semi-Writer » Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:33 pm

Name: Semi-Writer
Source: unca20090603.htm
"Break Room Live" is fascinating because of its evolution. Hmmm, let's see. We'll take Air America's "The Sam Seder Show" and "Morning Sedition," end one show and fire the host from the other, then... hey, what the heck! Let's hire 'em back a few years later! Corporate decision-making at its wackiest and most insecure. But regardless, it's great to see these two working.

It was interesting to watch the online progression of Break Room Live, though--from its web beginnings on Samsedershow.com with Marc and Sam going through their technical troubles (one on the East Coast and one on the West, working via webcam), then trying to find a comfortable way to work together over the webcam, then trying to work together in New York (early on, Sam would sit in one room and Marc in another, still attempting to do the show via webcam), then they sat in a small closet, a small studio... and finally they said, "Screw it, we're going to do this in the Air America break room and make everyone walk around us." Which works! And good for them.

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DWST screening on 23rd

Postby Dennis C » Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:14 pm

Name: Dennis C
Source: unca20090603.htm
What's the agenda for the screening on the 23rd? Will our fearless leader speak between screenings, before the screenings, in the middle of screenings??? I only ask because my workplace sometimes keeps me late -- much as I may plan and beg, they are wont to decide haphazardly that something must be done at the last possible minute... and screw up my schedule.
So is there a schedule? Or is it a wing-it and see what happens thing?
Just asking...

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Postby STICKLER » Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:49 pm

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Source: unca20090603.htm
Does anyone really beleive that FINGERPRINTS IN THE SKY will be published this year? DEATHBIRD STORIES? YOUR PAL HARLAN? GLASS TEAT? The list goes on. Harland Ellison is tracking down fly by night publishers when he should be working on gettting those other books out. Does anyone else agree?

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2 books

Postby john zeock » Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:01 pm

Name: john zeock
Source: unca20090603.htm
Picked up 5th edition of Greil Marcus' MYSTERY TRAIN at a bargain book sale at Borders (buy 2, 3rd is free ). Two paragraphs in notes about SPIDER KISS. Cost me nothing. Could you use it ? Also saw hardcover edition of The Thousand Deaths of Mr Small at Baldwin Book Barn. The fact that it's in a glass case isn't promising price wise but I could pass along contact info if necessary. Happy holidays and thanks for the RH, Susan. John

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Postby Moderator » Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:16 pm

Name: Steve Barber
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STICKLER - You seem to be able to read minds. If so, I'm sure you know what I'm thinking.
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KOS - You're correct in your political analysis. That;s why I expressed potential humor at people who match the wrong ends of the spectrum with each other. It's a simple use of epithets, which lose their value if you don't actually know what it is you're calling someone.

Of course, if the intended audience are themselves ignorant of the conflict, it's so much the sadder.

Just goes to show the valyoo of a gud edumacation.



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Happy Easter

Postby William Sherman » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:55 am

Name: William Sherman
Source: unca20090603.htm
Dear Mr. Ellison et al.:

To my fellow Papists, and other Christians, Happy Easter.

To the remainder, Happy Masters' Sunday.

Regards,

William Sherman
Boxford, MA

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Have Harlan and Charles Dickens Been Plagiarized?

Postby Shane Shellenbarger » Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:52 am

Name: Shane Shellenbarger
Source: unca20090603.htm
I just saw an ad for a film scheduled for release on May 1st, "Ghosts of Girlfriends Past." The plot synopsis is this: A bachelor is haunted by the ghosts of his past girlfriends at his younger brother's wedding. According to IMDB.Com, it was written by Jon Lucas and Scott Moore

Now to me this appears a combination of Dickens's "A Christmas Carol" and Ellison's "All The Birds Come Home To Roost."

Opinions? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0821640/


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Postby Moderator » Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:17 am

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SARA: *Thank you* for the comments about Cris the other day. I'd recommend her second CD (NOBODY ELSE BUT ME, for which she won the OC Music Award) or her third (COMES LOVE, which was nominated for both OC and LA Music Awards) for starters. They tend to be the best received, as well as giving you the best introduction to her work. I appreciate the interest (as does she!).
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NEWS ITEM from POLITICAL ANIMAL:

** DOBSON POINTS TO CULTURE WAR DEFEAT....

James Dobson delivered a farewell speech to the Focus on the Family staff, and conceded that the culture war he helped start hasn't turned out well for the agents of intolerance. James Dobson, 72, who resigned recently as head of Focus on the Family -- one of the largest Christian groups in the country -- and once denounced the Harry Potter books as witchcraft, acknowledged the dramatic reverse for the religious Right in a farewell speech to staff.

"We tried to defend the unborn child, the dignity of the family, but it was a holding action," he said. "We are awash in evil and the battle is still to be waged. We are right now in the most discouraging period of that long conflict." Dobson actually emphasized his desire to keep the fight going, despite the religious right movement's setbacks:

"Humanly speaking, we can say that we have lost all those battles, but God is in control and we are not going to give up now, right? ... I have been assured by the board and by many of you that we're not going to cow, we're not going to be discouraged."

Now, in fairness, this report omitted some context. Dobson actually emphasized his desire to keep the fight going, despite the religious right movement's setbacks: "Humanly speaking, we can say that we have lost all those battles, but God is in control and we are not going to give up now, right? ... I have been assured by the board and by many of you that we're not going to cow, we're not going to be discouraged." **


Dobson is one of those people who, in their religious zealotry, commit among the most evil of actions.

When will these people learn that in the minds of many the world is God's creation, and none of us has the God-given right nor the knowledge with which to criticize it? It would indeed be a wodnerful world if these fools actually practiced what Christ was reputed to have preached.

Happy Easter, y'all.


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Postby Harlan Ellison » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:23 pm

Name: HARLAN ELLISON
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KOS:

Think long and hard before you ask anything of me that will distract me from my current nose-tothe-grindstone of writing.
Unless it is a VERY serious matter, the answer is no. You think it isn't trivial, send it through Wyatt; but I'm in no real mood for fripperies right about now.

DORMAN: I absolutely MUST speak to you. Please get your Aussie phone number to Rick, and I will call you ASAP. I cannot wait any longer for your to get in touch with me otherwise. Please do it now!

VITAL INFORMATION FOR THE REST OF YOU:

Though no one asked, the endoscopy/colonoscopy procedure last
Thursday showed my uppere and lower g.i. tract is, as the drs.
put it, "Clean as a whistle." Nice to know I have no cancer.

But even as they give with one hand, they take with the other.
AND THIS IS NOT A SUBJECT ON WHICH I NEED YOUR MUSINGS, so skip the usual chatter about how your grandfather had the same thing and blahblahblah; I'm passing this along strictly FYI and nothing more: apparently my haemoglobin count has dropped, in doctorspeak "alarmingly," "disasterously," and/or "dangerously" from something like 36 to 24; and when I asked what the hell that meant, I was told, "If you were at 20, we'd have you in Cedars-Sinai and you'd be dying." So apparently you have to be bleeding profusely for this symptomology, but as there is no blood--not in stool, not in piss, not coming out of my ears, and since I'm not menstruating--the conclusion of the three or four specialists pottering about my carcass, my bone marrow is "out of whack (dr.speak again). They feel this is some serious juju, and they want me in Monday for a transfusion.

That's one bit of basic data. Here's another:

Len and Chris have found a house about three blocks from the ember pile, and the insurance company is setting up a year's rental. They may buy it, or maybe not; but they're not in the street. Things are easing up a bit for them, mostly because one cannot keep up that tension of disaster without let. I'll try to keep you in the loop, but I'm writing quite a lot at the moment.

The final bit of minutiae ias that I wrote a brand-new story last week. It is titled "How Interesting: A Tiny Man" and it has been bought by John Helfers, the editor of THE 50th ANNIVERSARY 'TWILIGHT ZONE' ANTHOLOGY edited by Helfers and Carol Serling for Tor. "Bought," but it has to be passed across the line of sight of Rod Serling's widow. If she agrees with Helfer, that's where it'll appear. If not, I'll sell it elsewhere. There are a dozen markets lined up.

Yr. Pal, Harlan


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JOHN Z.

Postby Harlan Ellison » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:29 pm

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I can use the Greil Marcus. I have the Kersh in three differnt editions.

-he

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HARLAN:

Postby Sara Slaymaker » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:40 pm

Name: Sara Slaymaker
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If I prayed, you would be in them. As it is, I will be sending massive amounts of love and strength your way for the foreseeable future. Good luck tomorrow.

Can't wait to read the new story.

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DEAREST JAMES DOBSON

Postby Rick Keeney » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:26 pm

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If humanly possible, please shut the fuck up.

Rick

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Hospital Tests

Postby Dennis C » Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:27 pm

Name: Dennis C
Source: unca20090603.htm
Harlan:
Good luck with the tests and please keep us informed. We worry.


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