Pavilion Digest: March 2006

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Postby tyg » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:47 pm

Name: Tom Galloway
Source: unca20060316.htm
If we're going with comic book characters, I'd have to say that, other than that narrator guy in Dream Corridor, the character most based on Harlan would be Harlequin Ellis in Justice League of America #89. Just a hunch there though.

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Postby Todd Cassel » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:04 pm

Name: Todd Cassel
Source: unca20060316.htm
Thanks for the response, Harlan! It was just that scene that made me say, "Hey, waitaminute, didn't I hear once that Dreyfuss was doing Ellison in this movie?" For a second, I thought that you had actually dubbed "El buffo!" during some session where Dreyfuss was unavailable.

I was also struck by your voice and words streaming from his lips during the scene where Marsha Mason interrupts him in his room while he is desperately practicing his role with hump and limp.


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Postby Brad Stevens » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:13 pm

Name: Brad Stevens
Source: unca20060316.htm
Since we're on the subject, I vaguely recall that, after Harlan's interview in The Comics Journal, one of the people he'd made some kind of negative comment about created a super villain who was said to be based on Harlan. I believe that this character appeared in a DC comic. Does this ring any bells?

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Green cheese, anyone?

Postby Ash » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:16 pm

Name: Ash
Source: unca20060316.htm
The subject of Ellison references in comics reminds me of a short story (with illustrations) that appeared in the 1981 2000AD Annual. The story was called 'Bang! Bang! said the Green Cheese Man', and the first person narrator went by the name 'Harlan Ellis'. As I recall, not so much a superhero, as a wheeler-dealer involved in selling off the Moon or something like that.

Google only gives me the 2000AD site as proof that I did not imagine this. Am I the only person who remembers this story? Anybody have more info?

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Why I Like Mr. Ellison

Postby Kate » Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:21 pm

Name: Kate
Source: unca20060316.htm
1. His way with words -- the man swings. No doubt about it.
2. He doesn't B.S. Take it or leave it: it is what it is. In this world of PC and BS, he always rings true.
3. His good heart: he rages against what he believes is wrong, and always takes a stand on the side of what he believes to be the right, just and noble cause -- and doesn't care if it wins him popularity or not. A singular man.
4. He bothers with us -- he doesn't have to, you know.
5. As a Sinatra fan, can I just add this: I love the way he feels a sense of loss over not being able to enjoy Sinatra's music because of Sinatra's bad behavior. Yeah, I love Sinatra's music; but he often behaved very badly. I can listen to the music and enjoy it. But I didn't have that encounter that Mr. Ellison did -- which was, to put it mildly, a rude, perplexing and awful experience. But the fact that Mr. Ellison still admits to having had a fondness for the music (prior to the experience) and feeling the loss and "pain" over its absence in his life due to those bad memories, makes him tops in my book. How many of us can admit the talent of those who treat us unfairly and irrationally? Again, a singular man.

Mr. Ellison, I read your site often, but rarely post. But I think you're very special.

Thanks for letting me bend your ear.

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Postby Harlan Ellison » Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:44 pm

Source: unca20060316.htm
Thank you, Kate.

Sometimes I forget how nice so many people can be.

Respectfully, Harlan Ellison

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Postby Ben » Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:42 pm

Name: Ben Winfield
Source: unca20060316.htm
"Sometimes I forget how nice so many people can be."

Strange. After hearing (and reading) the misanthropic, bile-bloated rants of George Carlin and his disciples, it's almost startling to see a quiet, low-key sign of geniality from the alleged Master Cynic himself.

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Postby Greg Hurd » Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:52 pm

Name: Greg Hurd
Source: unca20060316.htm
A recent "image" search for HE finds a bunch of Terminator links + a paperback copy (which I don't have) with a major plug from Richard Dawson??? Where is the shame---and how can I get one?


Postby Shelly » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:07 pm

Name: Shelly
Source: unca20060316.htm
Dear Benjamin,
Kate wrote a sweet and sincere fan letter and Harlan graciously thanked her. Being a cynic does not preclude being a nice person, nor a polite one. Your comment really puzzled me.

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Postby Rob Ewen » Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:02 am

Name: Rob Ewen
Source: unca20060316.htm
If anybody on the US West Coast is curious about what's currently tickling the British funny bone, you may want to see Tommy Tiernan and Bill Bailey at UCLA - details below.


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Postby Shane Shellenbarger » Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:39 am

Name: Shane Shellenbarger
Source: unca20060316.htm
Harlan, please accept my most sincere condolences at the loss of another friend. I was shocked to hear about the death of Octavia Butler. I had the pleasure of hearing her speak at the Scottsdale Center for the Performing Arts over a decade ago. ... butler.php ... 010232.htm ... l=cl-books

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Postby Ben » Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:28 am

Name: Ben Winfield
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My comment "puzzled" you? The fact that the same man who produced THE WHIMPER OF WHIPPED DOGS could make such an unremarkable yet sincere remark about the possiblity of a decent portion of humanity (nihilism is like a fashion these days; it's "in" to be hateful), encourages me to get out of bed in the morning. I'm sorry, but you misinterpreted the tone of my post.

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Postby Roger Gjovig » Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:58 am

Name: Roger Gjovig
Source: unca20060316.htm
I stopped at a comic book convention here in Des Moines today and filled some holes in my collection and got a few leads on filling the rest of the holes in my Aragones/Groo comics. I got a few old Twilight Zone issues and stumbled across some old Rocky and Bullwinkle ones which I snatched up.I also found an old issue of Amazing Stories which had the collaboration of Harlan and Samuel Delaney on "Power of the Nail".I did pick that one up also. Harlan would you have any info for us on the new edition of "Partners in Wonder" which will have some new stories this time around? I'm looking forward to seeing you and Susan soon in Minneapolis.Take care.

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Postby Lee » Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:22 pm

Name: Lee
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Let me know if you're interested in Cerebus.

I've got some early issues, including #1, that I'm getting rid of.

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unremarkable yet sincere remark

Postby Ash » Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:00 pm

Name: Ash
Source: unca20060316.htm
What gets me out of bed in the morning is the warm expanse of freshly micturated urine.

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