Pavilion Digest: February 2006

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Roger Gjovig
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Postby Roger Gjovig » Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:30 pm

Name: Roger Gjovig
Source: unca20060316.htm
I'm finished with jury duty, this was the fourth time I've served over the years. It was the first time I haven't got picked for a jury, I've been picked seven times to be a juror for a trial in my previous appearances. I did get a lot of reading done while waiting in the jury room. I finished a new collection of Heinlein short stories that included everything not in the Future History series. I also got started on the third I've read in the series of Retrieval Artist stories written by Kristine Rusch. This one is called "Buried Deep" and is as well written and entertaining as the rest in the series. I know there is at least one more available, I'll have to track it down.I'm listening to a double disc set called "The Last Midnight Ride" by Mark Lindsey as I have been reading the messages here and while typing one. It is a live recording from New Year's Eve 2003 which at the time was to be his last concert before retiring.The retirement didn't last forever, he is still recording and on rare occasion touring. It is a very entertaining set with some of his solo cuts and quite a few Raiders tunes. It has my favorite tune he did late in his career with the Raiders, a tune called "Tobacco Road".I got to see them do it live at Knotts Berry Farm in the summer of 1974.I got this disc directly from his web site along with three other discs. Very cool. Bye for now. Roger

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Harlan Ellison
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Postby Harlan Ellison » Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:45 pm

Name: HARLAN ELLISON
Source: unca20060316.htm
HOLD THE BUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Susan has just pointed out to me that the weird pirate guy at TijuanaBible.org does, indeed, have my copyright notice (sort of) on the piece. It is in white, against a near-white background and I didn't see it. He also states on the site that he "may be using copyrighted material," but he doesn't point out that he hasn't gotten permission to do so.

Whatta mess.

If anybody can find a name, a number, an address outside the chipper world of electronic pilferage, I would be virtually comatose with pleasure to have said data.

Exhausted, Yr. pal, Harlan

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Oh, My Christian Eyes!!

Postby Duane » Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:37 pm

Name: Duane
Source: unca20060316.htm
Dear Pastor of TijuanaBible.org, a (presumably) respectable place where one can go to hear the words of the Lord from His holy servants who reside south of the border:

Here I sit, primly and in a state of complete indignation, expecting to receive some much needed Godly inspiration.

But what do I see before me?

"You must be 18 to enter," the little flag says? Why? Are the poor, homeless urchins who inhabit Avenida De La Revolucion not allowed inside the well-swept doors of your little eChurch? Didn't Our Lord speak the truth when He suffered the little children to come unto Him?

So help me, I'm going to click ENTER and find out what your problem is, and set you straight on it, riiight.... NOW!!



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Bud Webster
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Note to Harlan

Postby Bud Webster » Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:37 pm

Name: Bud Webster
Source: unca20060316.htm
Harlan, my old:

I'm at a con in Roanoke, Virginia, and won't be able to call you until Sunday when I get back home. No, the final ballot hasn't been announced, and I'm trying very hard NOT to chew my nails to the quick (and beyond) until I hear, nor do I have any idea when the announcement will come.

And I will do what I can when I get back to find an address/phone number/other contact information for the afore-mentioned pirate. Gimme a couple of days and I'll work that voodoo that I do so WEEEEELLLLLL.

Mark S.

Lotte Lenya

Postby Mark S. » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:32 am

Name: Mark S.
Source: unca20060316.htm
Sony Classical, which use to be the Columbia Masterworks label, has released on CD the two albums Lotte Lenya did for them. One is of Kurt Weil's Berlin music done with Bertold Brecht, and the other of his American Musical period, including selections from Knickbocker Holiday, One Touch of Venus and Lost in the Stars.

Plus for the fanatic, Bear Family a imprint out of Germany who specialize in the most complete recordings of artists in country, folk, jazz and blues have a 11 disc Lenya box set for those who want to hear every note.

Kurt Weil's music always seem to be in my house as a child. From Ernie Kovack's use of the German language version of "Mack the Knife" to Ella Fitzgerald's, and my parents who had a 78 of Walter Houston singing "September Song" which was 'their' song. If nothing else this mention of Lotte Lenya has me pulling out some of her vinyl for a listen this weekend.

Gerd Trimbleson

Postby Gerd Trimbleson » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:46 am

Name: Gerd Trimbleson
Source: unca20060316.htm
... I'm done, finished, all washed up, written out, incapable of producing anything new, a burnt-out hack, ....

Never said that. Just said that all the books are re-issues now. That's not an insult, just a fact. If it bothers you, make a liar out of me.

S!

http://www.tijuanabible.org/ host and owner information

Postby S! » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:54 am

Name: S!
Source: unca20060316.htm
Harlan,

As a member in good standing of the Flying Blue Monkey Squadron, I present for your reading and litigious pleasure:

Domain ID: D96681770-LROR
Domain Name: TIJUANABIBLE.ORG
Sponsoring Registrar: Intercosmos Media Group Inc. (R48-LROR)

Registrant ID: ODN-431427
Tijuana Tabasco Co.
23 donkeyshow dr
Tijuana
border
11101
MX
Phone: +52.0013428844
Email: tj@tijuanacartoonsex.com

Admin ID: ODN-431427
Tijuana Tabasco Co.
23 donkeyshow dr
Tijuana
border
11101
MX
Phone: +52.0013428844
Email: tj@tijuanacartoonsex.com

Tech ID: ODN-431427
Tijuana Tabasco Co.
23 donkeyshow dr
Tijuana
border
11101
MX
Phone: +52.0013428844
Email: tj@tijuanacartoonsex.com

Name Server:NS1.4PH.COM
Name Server:NS2.4PH.COM
Name Server:NS3.4PH.COM

==============================================================

and just in case, here is the scoop on the company hosting the web site:
TIJUANABIBLE.ORG

69.5.68.129
Record Type: IP Address

OrgName: Carpathia Hosting
OrgID: CARPA-3
Address: 2101 Mill Rd
Address: Suite 106
City: Alexandria
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 22314
Country: US

ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.carpathiahost.com:4321

NetRange: 69.5.64.0 - 69.5.95.255
CIDR: 69.5.64.0/19
NetName: CIRN-NETBLOCK03
NetHandle: NET-69-5-64-0-1
Parent: NET-69-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.4PH.COM
NameServer: NS2.4PH.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 2002-11-07
Updated: 2005-01-18

[**** REPORT ABUSE HERE ****]
OrgAbuseHandle: KSB1-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Bethke, Kenneth Scott
OrgAbusePhone: +1-703-740-1730
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@carpathiahost.com

OrgTechHandle: KSB1-ARIN
OrgTechName: Bethke, Kenneth Scott
OrgTechPhone: +1-703-740-1730
OrgTechEmail: abuse@carpathiahost.com

==============================================================

I would have the website host provider (Carpathia Hosting, Kenneth Scott Bethke) take down the site first, at the behest of your attorney. That will get the attention of the website owner and content provider. Then things get interesting as they try to contact you to find out why. Website hosts are usually very loath to be involved in any way with supporting known plagiarism and theft of intellectual property.

S!

Rick Wyatt

Postby Rick Wyatt » Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:42 am

Name: Rick Wyatt
Source: unca20060316.htm
Yeah, and if that doesn't work he can always send a threatening letter to TWENTY THREE DONKEYSHOW ROAD.

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Der Buhk

Postby Adam-Troy » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:07 am

Name: Adam-Troy Castro
Source: unca20060316.htm
Harlan,

The name of the book was VOSSOFF AND NIMMITZ: JUST A COUPLE OF IDIOTS RE-UPHOLSTERING SPACE AND TIME. Wildside did the Hardcover; one of my several grudges against BP the corporate entity was that they contracted to publish the paperback, announced it in Locus, then took it off the schedule, without ever once so much as bothering to tell me. Because it continued to appear in the databases of some online booksellers, I was still expecting to see it appear in stores two weeks before the originally scheduled pub date; that's about when the weight of accumulating evidence taught me that something unkosher was up.

I was already deeply pissed at BP for more reasons than I can elucidate here. So by the final third of 2005, with neither that book or (as far as I could tell) any of the several other books BP signed from Wildside on the schedule, I was sufficiently pissed off to formally rescind the rights. The impending bankrupcy was another factor. I didn't want the book trapped in limbo forever, the way one of my early Spider-Man novels for BP has been.

As a mass-market book, VOSSOFF AND NIMMITZ faces an uncertain future, especially since (I'm told) a couple of the acquisition editors at major houses have read some of the individual stories that make it up, and are downright hostile to it (while remaining amenable to receiving submissions of my writing in other modes).

But Wildside still has hardcovers. And I needed to get a couple on hand, anyway.

So, it'll be a little bit of a wait, but you've got one coming.


A-TC

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Bud Webster
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"Christus Destitutus"

Postby Bud Webster » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:16 am

Name: Bud Webster
Source: unca20060316.htm
...did not make the final Nebula ballot. Thanks to everyone who read it and sent me comments.

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Postby JohnPacer » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:46 pm

Name: John Pacer
Source: unca20060316.htm
I don't know if you all heard about this yet, but I thought it was pretty wild: Apparently scientists at the University of Illinois have actually built a quantum computer.

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/inf ... 5.700.html

and also

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... nworld-hed

- John

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Harlan Ellison
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Postby Harlan Ellison » Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:39 pm

Name: HARLAN ELLISON
Source: unca20060316.htm
Aw, sheet, Bud, sorry to hear it. Had I known a week or so earlier, you'd've had at least one more vote. I thought the story just nifty, and certainly ballot-worthy.

We'll get 'em next year, pard.

Yr. pal, Harlan

Roger Gjovig
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Postby Roger Gjovig » Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:22 pm

Name: Roger Gjovig
Source: unca20060316.htm
I was watching Babylon 5-The Wheel of Fire year 5 today and have a quick question for Harlan. On the first disc episode 4,"A View From The Gallery" was one you were involved enough with to get a writers credit. Out of curiosity, were the maintenance workers Mack and Bo your contribution to the script? They seem to be very much your type of guys.Speaking of B5, in my travels today I happened to pick up some new comics by J Michael Straczinski, its creator. Fantastic 4, The Amazing Spiderman, Supreme Power:Hyperian and the new run of Rising Stars involving Laurel Darkhaven, then one not his, a new Kolchak the Night Stalker. I also picked up a new plant today, a Rabbit's Foot Fern, it is really cool looking. I don't normally buy green leafy plants, most of mine are cactus and bromeliads. They are very easy care plants for anyone to try. Roger

Josh Hadley

Masters Of Science Fiction on ABC is a mistake....

Postby Josh Hadley » Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:56 pm

Name: Josh Hadley
Source: unca20060316.htm
I feel that MoSF being on ABC rather then The Scifi Channel or HBO or Showtime will hinder the show in more ways then one.

Time constraints. Unless a show is a HUGE ratings hit, most shows on ABC are only about 41 minutes without commercials, whereas the cable nets are 44-60.

Content. While Science Fiction does not NEED swearing, sex or serious violence, if the story calls for it I feel that edits should not have to be made and on ABC it will be killed.

Studio Meddling. I have a feeling this will be Twilight Zone 1985 all over again.... I personally loved TZ85 but from what I have read from Harlan and others, CBS was a ton of trouble about the series from day one and I have a feeling that ABC will be the same way.

Ratings. ABC is nearly as bad as FOX when it comes to canning shows after only a few episodes. Unless the show is a HUGE hit I feel that ABC will not pick the series up after the initial 3 episode "test".

This show should be on cable.

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Postby M Jacka » Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:04 pm

Name: Mike Jacka
Source: unca20060316.htm

The great thing about Harlan being on ABC.

Its owned by the Disney Company. Finally forgiven for the cartoon porn imitations?

Mike


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