Depression

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Re: Depression

Postby Lori Koonce » Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:12 pm

Frank

You do realize that you aren't qualified to tell anyone how to deal with their health. You aren't a doctor, nor are you any other kind of health care professional.

Sometimes the only way to make things better is to mess with the "stew". Salt makes things taste better. Just like some medication helps those of us with some serious issues to deal with them better.

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Re: Depression

Postby FrankChurch » Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:09 pm

I'm the love doctor babee.

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Re: Depression

Postby Lori Koonce » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:12 am

To take a phrase from one of my favorite 80's songs:

What's love got to do with it?

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Re: Depression

Postby FrankChurch » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:54 pm

Love is a four letter word.

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Re: Depression

Postby diane bartels » Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:37 pm

But a secondhand emotion

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Re: Depression

Postby Steve Evil » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:23 pm

They've done studies:

unrequited love can be deadly.

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Re: Depression

Postby FrankChurch » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:07 am

Our busy society is a large cause to our depressed state. We fly so fast on our own wind that we forget that we might bump into birds and flag poles.

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Re: Depression

Postby Lori Koonce » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:26 am

Frank

What the hell dose society have to do with the fact that I was born with a defective brain, for lack of a better term?

My brain, and the brain's of millions of others just don't process brain chemicals correctly. No more No less. I know it's a popular thing for people like you to blame society for EVERYTHING that causes a human problems, but you are; once again I may add, totally wrong on this.

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Re: Depression

Postby FrankChurch » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:44 am

Who told you you have a defective brain?

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Re: Depression

Postby Lori Koonce » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:02 pm

2 Shrinks and one guy who gives me the medication that I choose to take.

All of who have much more knowledge than YOU do about how the brain works.

Now granted they didn't use the word defective, but what would you call a brain that dosen't work the way it normally should?

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Re: Depression

Postby Samuel John Klein » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:01 pm

This'll probably strike you all with the same dark chuckles it's struck me (who have had my own misadventures with the D-word), but Lars Von Trier is coming out with a new movie about the end of the world, which in this case arrives with the bang of a newly-discovered planet colliding with the Earth.

He's calling it - I shit you not - Melancholia. It's described as a "beautiful film about the end of the world" and pivotal characters afflicted with depression face the end of the world by the rogue planet, whose name is also a synonym for depression. Von Trier had his inspiration for the film during his therapy sessions, it is said, to deal with his … depression.

When I get that way, I just cope. Rich guys like him get to make movies.

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Re: Depression

Postby Anthony Ravenscroft » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:59 pm

Back in the 1980s, I subscribed to IASFM. I made the comment at the time that, about every second or third issue, there'd be a story (usually at least a novella) that could be summed up as "Oh, well, I'm dying, & so is the Earth. How ironic." It was like half-arsed J.G. Ballard, & irritated the crap outta me.

There's a big therapeutic value (IMNSHO) in wallowing in a funk. However, that's with an eye to its passing. And as The Depression Workbook pointed up, many depressives learn to work with some facets of depression & even turn them to strengths.

And I've never had the least interest in convincing others of the "beauty" of my downswings.

Dunno. I might willingly watch such a film. But it seems like putting Leaving Las Vegas onto such a cataclysmic footing is to beg for a parade of mawkish stereotypes.

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Re: Depression

Postby Samuel John Klein » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:32 am

Anthony Ravenscroft wrote:Dunno. I might willingly watch such a film. But it seems like putting Leaving Las Vegas onto such a cataclysmic footing is to beg for a parade of mawkish stereotypes.


I'd see it for the SFX. That's pretty much it. Also I like John Hurt and Keifer Sutherland (despite that dumb-ass series 24).

Also maybe I could get ideas for making my melancholia finally pay me a ton'o'cash because, if you aren't monetizing your ass, you're ass be as grass. At least a little inspiration.

And I'll be eager to see what Von Trier thinks colliding planets would look like.

But that's about it.

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Re: Depression

Postby Chuck Messer » Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:52 am

I seem to be experiencing a phenomenon called, "Prozac Poopout". 20mg per day of fluoxetine just ain't cuttin' it anymore. I called my doctor's office, and a day later got a message advising me to go to 40 mg for a few weeks and see what happens. Just ain't cuttin' it. I think my doc wants to avoid prescribing anything too costly - generic Prozac costs me only ten bucks - but I do remember back in 2002-2003 my healthcare provider decided they wouldn't support Prozac for depression. What do they use, a dart board? Zoloft didn't work too well, but Celexa worked just fine.

Then another provider wouldn't allow Celexa. Damn dartboard.

I need to call my doctor on Monday.

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Re: Depression

Postby Lori Koonce » Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:19 pm

Don't feel all alone Chuck. I get to explain to my Dr. that while we probably could up my Zoloft another 50 mg, I don't want to risk the zombification I think that will bring.

So, who knows what I'll end up with!


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