Monologues: yay or nay?

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Monologues: yay or nay?

Postby Steve Evil » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:02 pm

I suppose there are better places to put the querry: in the moving finger section, or the "Whatchya reading?" section, the annex section of even Kafka's depression section, but I'm feeling impatient and want answers right away.

See, I love monologues. I think there's a reason the works of Shakespeare are full of them. I love it when characters speak their mind. I live for the villain's big speech. I adore the hero's manifesto. Think Richard III or Hamlet, Charlie Chaplin at the end of The Great Dictator, any number of Doctor Who's soliloquies. I can't get enough o' dat shit, and I won't have some Facebook gamer tell me it's better to just describe character punch ups.

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Re: Monologues: yay or nay?

Postby Moderator » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:06 pm

Monologues, if written well and delivered adequately, can be important additions to a work.

Ham-handed and overacted...notsomuch.

As with everything, it depends upon context.
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Re: Monologues: yay or nay?

Postby Ezra Lb. » Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:35 pm

Steve E ever read any Samuel Beckett? Much of his work consists of monologues. See

http://www.amazon.com/Three-Novels-Moll ... 996&sr=1-1

Very dark at times but also very funny.
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Re: Monologues: yay or nay?

Postby FrankChurch » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:25 pm

The monologue at the end of a Few Good Men. Wonderful. I still say it is anti-war.

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Re: Monologues: yay or nay?

Postby Anthony Ravenscroft » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:53 pm

Christopher Walken, Pulp Fiction -- only way it coulda been better is in a sinngle unbroken take.

Rutger Hauer, Blade Runner -- makes me cry every time.

In both cases, it's the driven-over-the-edge madness that makes it work for me.

But mis-handled monologues are legion. I guess I've read too many amateur works, where it's stiff verbiage used to backfill overlooked plot points, or maybe just to fill word-count.

And since The Incredibles, I always hear, "He starts monologuing!!"

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Re: Monologues: yay or nay?

Postby Ezra Lb. » Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:22 am

The original OUTER LIMITS made good use of monologues. This classic episode is full of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSCTnWEb1bU
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Re: Monologues: yay or nay?

Postby FrankChurch » Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:05 pm

The Day The Earth Stood Still.


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Postby Moderator » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:09 pm

FrankChurch wrote:The Day The Earth Stood Still.


Quite.
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Re: Monologues: yay or nay?

Postby Steve Evil » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:18 am

FrankChurch wrote:The Day The Earth Stood Still.


Yes!

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Re: Monologues: yay or nay?

Postby FrankChurch » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:03 pm

Grunt.

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Re: Monologues: yay or nay?

Postby NeonMosfet » Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:02 pm

Monoword.
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Re: Monologues: yay or nay?

Postby RocRizzo » Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:05 pm

How about monoclonal antibodies?
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Re: Monologues: yay or nay?

Postby NeonMosfet » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:43 am

Like they can only replicate once?
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Re: Monologues: yay or nay?

Postby RocRizzo » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:46 pm

no, monoclonal antibodies are clones. From Wikipedia:"monospecific antibodies that are the same because they are made by identical immune cells that are all clones of a unique parent cell.
"Given almost any substance, it is possible to create monoclonal antibodies that specifically bind to that substance; they can then serve to detect or purify that substance. This has become an important tool in biochemistry, molecular biology and medicine. When used as medications, the non-proprietary drug name ends in -mab (see "Nomenclature of monoclonal antibodies")."
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