For the Skeptical amongst us.....

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For the Skeptical amongst us.....

Postby Lori Koonce » Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:10 pm

My favorite outta all the SF weeklys had a wonderful article on the Amazing Randi, and a conference he puts on every July.

Here's the link for those interested in reading it.

http://www.sfweekly.com/2009-08-26/news/the-demystifying-adventures-of-the-amazing-randi/

BTW, Leave you guys alone for a few days, and what happens. i've got a shitload of stuff to slog my way thru! :lol:

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Re: For the Skeptical amongst us.....

Postby FrankChurch » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:19 am

The Amazing RAndi! Another atheist who was there way before Dawkins crawled from the swamp. What a guy. Outs Peter Popoff as a fraud and damned if Popoff doesn't start right back up bilking the gullible, many African Americans. Sad.

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Postby Steve Evil » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:21 pm

Randi's from Toronto? No way!

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Re: For the Skeptical amongst us.....

Postby Lori Koonce » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:40 pm

Steve Evil wrote:Randi's from Toronto? No way!


You and our Mr. Harrison aren't the only good people commin outta Canada!

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Re: For the Skeptical amongst us.....

Postby Steve Evil » Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:58 pm

Don't forget the members of Rush! (Though they record elsewhere. . .)

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Postby Duane » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:02 pm

I'm sure you can forgive them for that, Steve! ;)

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Postby FrankChurch » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:21 pm

Duane, like the new pic. Sexyman, you.

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Re: For the Skeptical amongst us.....

Postby David Loftus » Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:53 pm

I've always been kinda fond of Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, and The Guess Who, too.
War is, at first, the hope that one will be better off; next, the expectation that the other fellow will be worse off; then, the satisfaction that he isn't any better off; and, finally, the surprise at everyone's being worse off. - Karl Kraus

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Postby Lori Koonce » Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:13 pm

Hell if it weren't for the crazy way they do Immigration, I'd have been living in Canada Decades ago!

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Re: For the Skeptical amongst us.....

Postby Anthony Ravenscroft » Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:05 pm

Most self-styled skeptics are apparent idiots, IMNSHO. Sorry, but I've had too many first-person encounters, & "biased" tragically understates my cynicism.

It's fine to say, "I can't get behind that." (Okay, better than fine.) It's exciting to watch a smart person dissect blatant horsetwaddle. But so many "skeptics" are smug little pissants with the intellectual capacity of a soggy match that I'm immediately skeptical whenever the word enters the conversation.

Now, with that said...

I've always had great respect for James Randi. I was a fan before he went on tour with Alice Cooper. I believe in psychic stuff, yet in highschool I paid cash for his book tearing Uri Geller into tiny pieces, & enjoyed it immensely. I think I first saw him on some CBC show that we could pick up late at night when the airwaves cleared.

Randi has always impressed me as a totally stand-up guy. Plus, setting him apart from many of the people he hangs out with, Randi actually gets out there & does stuff. He doesn't just sit & pontificate (though he's good at that). Like Houdini, he's disgusted by how readily the sheep are willing to believe half-arsed tricks that Randi was using onstage when still a teenager. And if you can read Flim Flam without regularly guffawing at the great projects Randi & his students staged to disabuse the rubes (& so often failing), you're a much nicer person than I'll ever be.

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Re: For the Skeptical amongst us.....

Postby Ezra Lb. » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:42 am

Anthony wrote

...so many "skeptics" are smug little pissants with the intellectual capacity of a soggy match...

Sad but true. It is extremely depressing to read the comments placed in the blogs on Richard Dawkins' or Sam Harris' web sites. But that's just the nature of the "beast". For every individual willing to think independently there's going to be fifty wannabe lackeys and myrmidons scuttling about under their feet sucking off their mojo. Welcome to the human race!

But that state of affairs doesn't mitigate the necessity or primacy of the skeptical point of view in any way. It just means we got our work cut out for us as a species.

The value of the work of people like Dawkins and Harris is to make it more possible to discuss these issues in public. Reason and rationality will not sweep over the land perhaps but maybe somebody out there in the hinterlands will find the courage to speak out when they wouldn't have before.
“We must not always talk in the marketplace,” Hester Prynne said, “of what happens to us in the forest.”
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Re: For the Skeptical amongst us.....

Postby FrankChurch » Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:03 pm

When Harris becomes reasonable you let me know.

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Re: For the Skeptical amongst us.....

Postby Ezra Lb. » Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:43 am

When Harris becomes reasonable you let me know.

Actually read his book yet, Frank?
“We must not always talk in the marketplace,” Hester Prynne said, “of what happens to us in the forest.”
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Re: For the Skeptical amongst us.....

Postby FrankChurch » Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:18 pm

I've seen enough.

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Re: For the Skeptical amongst us.....

Postby Ezra Lb. » Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:45 pm

That's what I figured.
“We must not always talk in the marketplace,” Hester Prynne said, “of what happens to us in the forest.”
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