THE PAVILION ANNEX

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Postby FrankChurch » Thu May 30, 2013 10:29 am

If you play your cards right Lori. :o

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby FinderDoug » Thu May 30, 2013 10:52 am

At one time, he was a true martial arts expert. He even got some lessons from Bruce Lee. He's probably a little rusty now, but it's possible he could still open a pretty decent can of whup-ass.


At one of his appearances at Foolscap in 2005, Harlan told the story of seeing SCHINDLER'S LIST with Joe Straczynski, and the ensuing confrontation with the young men who were joking and laughing during the film. At the crucial point in the story, Harlan needed a volunteer from the audience upon whom to demonstrate the hold he slapped on one of the guys.

I was his victi-, er, volunteer.

Now, I cannot attest to Harlan's capabilities today. But I CAN tell you that in September 2005, at age 71, Harlan Ellison laid upon me a neck-and-arm hold that would have been the envy of men a third his age. Serious hand strength and control. The immediate impression I had: you fuck with Harlan, even at 71, at your peril.

I joked with him afterward about his GI Joe-style kung-fu grip and how decades of punching the manual typewriter keys had served him well. If memory serves, the response was a deserved, "Smart ass."

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby FrankChurch » Thu May 30, 2013 12:20 pm

The video of Straczynski mentioning that is great. Who giggles during a film that bleak? I'd love to have Harlan at a film I wanted to enjoy, not that you can enjoy SL.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby FrankChurch » Thu May 30, 2013 12:21 pm

I did forget that Harlan talked about that big dude that cut him off near his house and he threatened the dude, even though he was huge.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby FrankChurch » Thu May 30, 2013 2:43 pm

Controversial question people: Who's funnier, men or women?

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Postby Lori Koonce » Thu May 30, 2013 3:06 pm

FrankChurch wrote:Controversial question people: Who's funnier, men or women?


That is kinda like asking who has more skin men or women. There are a lot more factors than gender that go into it...

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Chuck Messer » Fri May 31, 2013 1:42 am

My new sig line below, from Night Court.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby FrankChurch » Fri May 31, 2013 10:35 am

Some would say men because you see very few women stand-ups.

Men have to make women laugh, women just get nekkid. It's societal. Women tend to think different things are funny. Erma Bombeck was a card, though.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Chuck Messer » Fri May 31, 2013 10:52 pm

You want to know how funny women can get? Look up Andrea Martin. Better yet, rent Dark and Stormy Night, a take-off on Old Dark House movies. Ms. Martin plays a medium, Mrs. Cupcupboard. She's just off the wall, especially during the seance scene. Larry Blamire was sitting next to her and if you look closely, you can see him almost losing it all through the scene.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Mark Tiedemann » Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:12 am

I think men are unintentionally funnier. Women clearly have the more developed sense of humor, otherwise how could they put up with males?

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby FrankChurch » Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:19 am

Mark, the old lady is looking over your shoulder?

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Postby Mark Tiedemann » Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:00 am

FrankChurch wrote:Mark, the old lady is looking over your shoulder?


She's not an old lady and no.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Steve Evil » Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:45 pm

If you insist, I'll take the bait: men are funnier. In my whole life I think I've only met one woman I would call genuinely funny. All my favourite humourists, from Twain to Groucho to Python to Carlin, have all been male. Not to say I haven't encountered women performers or writers or acquaintances in possession of a healthy wit, but the greatest sources of mirth, both high and low, have always been male.

Make of this what you will. . .

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Lori Koonce » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:56 pm

Steve Evil wrote:If you insist, I'll take the bait: men are funnier. In my whole life I think I've only met one woman I would call genuinely funny. All my favourite humourists, from Twain to Groucho to Python to Carlin, have all been male. Not to say I haven't encountered women performers or writers or acquaintances in possession of a healthy wit, but the greatest sources of mirth, both high and low, have always been male.

Make of this what you will. . .


While your list is good, tell me what you think of the following list

Mae West
Jane Curtain
Madeline Kahn
Lilly Tomlin

The list goes on for a good bit more, but I think the point has been made....

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Moderator » Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:46 pm

Later, after the first round, Frank specified Stand Up, and he's got more of a point.

But, exceptions to prove the rule?:

Elaine Boosler
Rita Rudner
Brett Butler
Roseanne (Whatever last name)
Kathy Griffin
Ellen Degeneres
Margaret Cho
Wanda Sykes
Amy Schumer
Rosie O'Donnell
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