THE PAVILION ANNEX

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby FrankChurch » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:51 am

Temple of the Dog, Hunger Strike. Nice tune.

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Postby reddragon70 » Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:47 pm

Frank, my wife says that the video ofr Hunger Strike is just rock porno for girls. As it has Chris Cornell and Eddy Vedder in it. But I have to admit... damned fine song indeed.

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Postby FrankChurch » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:39 pm

I'd keep an eye on your wife...lol

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Postby Moderator » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:01 pm

From Yahoo News:

A week after a record-breaking debut, Sarah Palin's reality show saw its audience drop nearly 40 percent on Sunday night.
According to preliminary ratings, just 3 million people watched the second episode of "Sarah Palin's Alaska." That's down from the nearly 5 million who watched the Nov. 14 debut episode, which was the highest-rated premiere episode in TLC's history.
One problem: Palin's show is losing ground with viewers aged 18-49. Per The Hollywood Reporter's James Hibbard, just 885,000 in that key viewing demographic watched the show—down 44 percent from last week. The median age of the show: 57 years old—15 years older than the average TLC viewer.



Sarah, we call those "demographics", and sadly yours trend a bit too old for advertisers.
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Postby Rick Keeney » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:27 pm

Barber wrote:arah, we call those "demographics", and sadly yours trend a bit too old for advertisers.


underscoring the sad fact that the left can be as mean-spirited as the right

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Postby markabaddon » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:41 pm

Keeney, that is undeniable. While I generally agree with Keith Olbermann, I cannot watch his show because he is such an insufferable, condescending prick who is just as much of a blowhard as O'Reilly.

Interesting comment in the Pav from Amparion that I am not sure I believe. The timing just seems too coincidental that the argument he presents starts floating around the conservative blogosphere and he posts it there. Possible, but unlikely.
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Postby markabaddon » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:18 pm

Grayson,

Not sure if you will see this, as I will not post in the Pav again to break the once per day rule over this, but Beck is a bad example. Yes, he is a Mormon, and frequently includes coded Mormon theology in his rants. However, he is not an elected official. If you read between the lines on what Rove, Norquist, etc. have to say about Beck, they think he is a clown. A very useful clown and an excellent rabble rouser, but not someone who would be seriously considered for any elected position.

Plus, he is not as open with his Mormon background as Romney is, so tehre is that factor in play also.

Petraeus would be an intriguing choice, but I do nto see him running in the end. Plus, he does not have the kind of public speaking ability that lends itself to political office.

Ron Paul is a nutjob, even more so than his son, he will not be a factor nationally

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Postby robochrist » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:34 pm

Mark,

I totally disagree about Olbermann, of course. I LOVE the guy!!

When you deal with pricks you have to talk to them like pricks. That's what he's doing. But he does so while adhering to the facts.

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Postby Duane » Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:49 pm

I'll direct him "down" here, Mark.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby FrankChurch » Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:16 pm

At least Ron Paul is an actual conservative.

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby robochrist » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:59 am

"Love" and "pricks"? That really doesn't go WELL together, DOES it?

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Postby Duane » Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:05 am

Doesn't it? ;)

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Postby FrankChurch » Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:58 am

Do's it?

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Postby robochrist » Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:18 pm

I'm LIMP already!!

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Re: THE PAVILION ANNEX

Postby Rick Keeney » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:06 pm

robochrist wrote:When you deal with pricks you have to talk to them like pricks.



I respectfully submit that is faulty thinking.

I do think outrage is a sometimes effective response, and from what I've seen of Olbermann, he's at his most interesting when spewing intelligent vitriol.

But, Jon Stewart, I think is always at his best, angry or othernot. THE DAILY SHOW presents a mirror. Unfortunately, I don't know that a Republican would recognize himself on a reflective surface. Nevertheless,I think the format is more effective, and possibly productive-and, in part, due to the fact that no one is safe on that show.

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