Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby diane bartels » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:57 pm

I agree with those experts Frank, Iran probably doesn't have nukes. My reasoning - Israel is still there.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:42 pm

So true Di. They keep forgetting the Mullah's call the shots, not the President. Sabre rattling is what Presidents who have guns aimed at them do.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:47 pm

Yea, keep trusting them when they say business hates Obama. Sure:

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/5/po ... onors_with

I wept with Ms. O, but corporations are loving the Dems as well.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:39 pm

Felt uncomfortable about the war mongering last night. We should have brought Osama to trial. We cannot run the world killing who we like.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby Steve Evil » Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:52 pm

While I am immune to the promises of any mainstreme politician, I am a connoisseur of rhetoric, and there was much to be had on Thursday. . . my favourite moment was "The Republicans are. . .[pause]. . . new at foreign policy. . ."

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:02 pm

Now they are saying ads don't work. I wish they would make their minds up.

Canvassing tends to work better. Knocking on doors. Doesn't seem to help the Witnessess.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:27 pm

Don't buy the idiotic hype of the media surrounding the Chicago Teacher's strike, it's more complicated than they want to admit:

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/9/10/s ... _forces_to

This won't go over well after a long summer break but this is a good thing. The demonization will be beyond heartbreaking, but education is much more important than test prep and corporate schools.

Rham is evil!

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:07 pm

As you rend the tissue from each eye hole, never forget the many civilians, in far distant countries who didn't deserve our death machine--from cluster bombs to white phosphorous.

They had families too. 9/11 should make us remember human rights are for all humans, even the ones we do not see.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:58 pm

I may have found the next Noam Chomsky--Villanova professor, Eugene McCarraher. He deconstructs the history and mystical implications of corporations as people:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53RYrvaq874

He's a better writer than Noam too.

Corporations are socialist? Who woulda thunk it.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:06 am

Fuck Netanyahu.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby DanielBarron » Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:55 pm

L'shanah tovah to you, too.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby Ezra Lb. » Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:29 am

An interesting question. What happened to Occupy Wall Street?

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09 ... all-street?

The article contains the answers I think.

Jon Reiner, a laid-off New York marketing executive who traveled to many Occupy camps last fall, is disheartened the movement didn't engage in electoral politics.

“I think there’s an opportunity that it has missed,” said the middle-aged husband and father of two. “I’m still meeting people my own age who are still being laid off. … so the issue has the same prominence in terms of its impact on people’s lives, and I think that the movement shouldn’t be quiet about any of this, and one way not to be quiet in an election cycle is to get yourself in the face of the … candidates."


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Another point of contention was whether the movement should embrace violent tactics.

“These big arguments took up a lot of time and energy for months over whether the tactics should remain strictly nonviolent,” said Todd Gitlin, a professor of journalism at Columbia University who wrote a book on Occupy. “ … the turning inward of energy was not constructive.”
“We must not always talk in the marketplace,” Hester Prynne said, “of what happens to us in the forest.”
-Nathaniel Hawthorne, The Scarlet Letter

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby Steve Evil » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:34 pm

Reminds me of all the talk that surrounded the Quebec talks. So much discussion, so much organization, so much hope... then 9/11 happened, and it all fell apart. On my campus at least. We just couldn't agree on what to do next. Seems like centuries ago now. . .

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby Ezra Lb. » Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:35 am

What you do next is soil your hands and become part of the political process. The Tea Party did this to obvious effect far exceeding their real numbers in the elctorate. The Occupy movement is too pure to do this and remains ineffectual.

And to spend time arguing about whether violence is appropriate? Oh hell yeah lotsa neurons firing there! (Won't vote but I'll break something.)

And if I see another moron with a Guy Fawkes mask I'm taking him out. You'd think that a movement that has pretensions of being revolutionary could find images from our own revolutionary past and not cede all that to the Right. But of course to do that you have to know something about our revolutionary past and there's where the process breaks down.

What this country needs is not revolutionaries but folks who will turn off the tube long enough to go down to the precinct meetings and party caucuses and become part of the candidate selction process. The Tea Party did this. The system does not work on auto-pilot. And politics abhors a vacuum like everything else.


Hypocrites!

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09 ... buse-files?

Mones said he did not expect many new lawsuits to result from the upcoming release of the Scouts' files, predicting that statutes of limitation on sex abuse charges in most U.S. states would prevent victims from successful civil or criminal prosecution of alleged molesters.

Whew that's a relief! If you can't be innocent at least you can be timely!
“We must not always talk in the marketplace,” Hester Prynne said, “of what happens to us in the forest.”
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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:07 pm

I'm sure NBC news has noble solidarity with our movements.

General Electric, dey love their hippies lightly breaded with jail bars.

Todd Gitlin has been a butt of jokes on the left for years. Bah.


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