FrankChurch wrote:Typical to see you yanks not even read what they wrote. They are both mainstream liberals and experts on Russia. I cannot say that about you blokes. Doesn't it seem odd that every western state defends your point of view? This is similar to the usual commie bashing blather.
I read the piece Frank. I've also had a great deal of exposure to international politics as well as media bias. I'm not an expert, but I know more than a few.
I could just as well label the people cited as experts in the article as themselves having a political agenda.
But, to put it in its most simplistic terms: Ukraine has not behaved as well as is presented and is far from being solely a victim. However, what the article and your experts ignore is the years of puppet government in the Ukraine, largely controlled by Moscow. This puppet government has been shown to have systematically looted the Ukrainian economy and kept the country in a period of instability.
Russia has invaded and annexed another country';s sovereign territory after expressly guaranteeing that country's borders. Russia has kept the rebels armed, even though they now are shown to be a political minority when it comes to Eastern Ukrainian independence.
What happened to your "voice of the people" and "protect the little guy" approach? Only when it's politically expedient? Ukraine has committed some serious errors, but Putin's attempt -- and your own -- to place blame solely at the feet of the Ukrainian government is painfully lacking credibility when confronted by fact as they can be shown to be. Putin has a two-decade history of increasingly disturbing rhetoric and changes to the Russian Constitution. He has withdrawn rights from his citizens and encroached on foreign soil. This is not the media stating this, these are verified facts. He is overtly manipulating his own press, something you're all to ready to cry foul about when you say it happens here.
You can not justify one side of your story when it vilifies America, and yet claim it to be absolutely valid when it applies to Russia.
Given your own perspective, one must assume Neville Chamberlain had it right regarding Hitler.