Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby David Silver » Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:57 pm

I knew Peter Coyote back in the 1990's when I coached his boy in baseball. Coyote was a great guy, never demanded anything, never questioned what I was doing, gave his kid plenty of positive reinforcement without unnecessary expectations, and stayed in the background. The ideal "little league dad" who understood the experience. A refreshingly balanced and realized individual for being a "star". I think being a good person was more important to him...
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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:52 pm

Makes complete sense. He's on the left.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby Ezra Lb. » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:05 pm

Makes complete sense. He's on the left.

You mean like Chairman Mao? :wink:

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The Republicans are such hypocrites. They're criticizing Obama because on the one year anniversary of Osama being assasinat-uh-I mean, "brought to justice", Obama is strutting a bit. As if the Repubs wouldn't have been waving their dicks if Bush had got him first.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby Chuck Messer » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:52 pm

Well, the political silly season is in full swing, and the "news" will cover it in all the depth that we've come to expect. There is, however, one place where the veil of bullshit can be penetrated and the fog of mendacity cleared: Cracked.com.

An election year is a shit blizzard. Every place you go for news online -- whether it's portal sites like Reddit, or aggregators like Google News or Yahoo! News or RealClearPolitics, or goddamned clips from late night talk shows -- they're all about to get buried under a brown storm of bullshit inflammatory headlines desperate for your click.


5 Ways to Spot a B.S. Political Story in Under 10 Seconds:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-to-s ... z1tZOiu9r6

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby Ezra Lb. » Tue May 01, 2012 12:10 pm

Frank, Frank are you out there? You didn't go off half-cocked did you? No it couldn't be...could it...?

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FinderDoug » Tue May 01, 2012 12:19 pm

None of them is named Frank Church. Though one of them kinda maybe looks like Prince if you squint a little...

The only bombs Frank drops are in here. :twisted:

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Tue May 01, 2012 12:48 pm

Don't joke around, guys, I'm really scared about this. I smell something and it aint right.

Anarchism is non-violent. These may have been infiltrators. This happens right when the May Day actions begin.

I am dead serious, guys, this may be the crackdown on the left.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby Mark Tiedemann » Tue May 01, 2012 1:36 pm

FrankChurch wrote:Don't joke around, guys, I'm really scared about this. I smell something and it aint right.

Anarchism is non-violent. These may have been infiltrators. This happens right when the May Day actions begin.

I am dead serious, guys, this may be the crackdown on the left.



Which anarchists are you talking about? Contemporary ones? Because the anarchists of the 1880s and 1890s and later in the interwar period would look at you funny if you told them Anarchy is nonviolent. Those folks were into bombs, knives, and anything that caused a ruckus.

From the look of their backgrounds, they seem like a bunch of Timothy McVeigh wannabes. The problem with a label like Anarchy is anyone can use to describe any action. Who's to gainsay them? Other anarchists? Same problem with Libertarians. The only thing all the different groups going around under that rubric is a common disdain for government.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby Ezra Lb. » Tue May 01, 2012 1:37 pm

Frank which one of the perps (or is that suspects?) do you most resemble? Just curious. I would guess the second guy on the left. With the others you would unchain your pit-bull on sight but this guy is slightly older, more "normal" looking, better able to infiltrate polite society in order to pollute our precious bodily fluids.

Hmmm...is "the May Day actions" some kind of code? :wink:

Not to be overly cynical but you can't help but wonder how far they would have gotten without the FBI's help.

Anarchism is non-violent.

There's a branch of the tradition that is non-violent to be sure but anarchism has a rich tradition of bomb-slinging zanies. I wouldn't get too paranoid about a "crackdown on the left". Sounds more like a crackdown on the stupid. Figure any of these bozos have ever read Kropotkin? I think waving a flag was the most they could manage.

Remember what G K Chesterton said in The Man Who was Thursday.

Where four conspire together, three are government agents and one is a fool.
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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FinderDoug » Tue May 01, 2012 1:50 pm

Frank - I wouldn't start slamming the panic button just yet. If the investigation has been going on since October, and there were some kind of move to crack down on the Left, they wouldn't have stopped with five. They'd have arrested a dozen or two and had whatever 'evidence' they needed at the ready. They'd have already started talking about a vast anarchist network or plot.

They arrested five asshats who got it in their heads to blow up a bridge. I don't think you need to worry.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby Steve Evil » Tue May 01, 2012 3:09 pm

Don't forget Gavrilo Princip. . .

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby Chuck Messer » Wed May 02, 2012 5:39 am

True, but Princip killed an heir to the throne who was not exactly considered indispensible. Franz Ferdinand was looking for an excuse to crush Serbia and Princip's action took place in a very unstable geopolitical situation. The blowhard pundits will try to pin this bomb plot on all the Occupy protestors, but in the end I think it'll be all wind. The disgusting people will behave in a predictably disgusting way, and that will be that.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Wed May 02, 2012 9:42 am

Poor Emma Goldman had to be deported because of what other mooks did.

Ayn Rand, now that's a dangerous person. Economic terrorism is what we should really be focusing on.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby FrankChurch » Mon May 07, 2012 5:15 pm

The French certainly are smarter than we are. I have vague hope for the Socialist President, with the power of international finance, but we can only hope. The last Socialist they elected ended up governing like Thatcher. I will hope for a better outcome. Democracy works--this time.

In Greece it's much more edgy. Sure, they rejected austerity, but they did elect 21 members of a neo-nazi party to their parliament. The nazis won one in ten of the youth vote. Very bad news.

This is why austerity is bad--the economic ruins gives rise to racism. Economic frustration tends to lead there, sadly.

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Re: Frank Church's news corner, the sequel.

Postby Mark Tiedemann » Tue May 08, 2012 6:13 am

Sometimes---and this is easy to forget when we live in the midst of relative abundance (even now, with all the financial nonsense going on here)---when someone says "We can't afford it" it's not a shell game, it's the truth. Greece never had the wherewithal to sustain the kinds of debts they took on and the idiots in the EU who gave the green light for all that money to flow in there must have been imbibing happy pills. Greece has always been an agricultural economy and they started spending money as if they were an industrial economy. Not only that, Greece has never---never---been able to rely on its tax income because they are a nation of tax avoiders. Somewhere north of 40% of Greeks simply will not pay their taxes and there is no mechanism in place for making them.

But after all the finger-pointing, it is, as I say, easy to forget that sometimes "We can't afford it" means exactly that. Austerity's a bitch, but abject poverty is worse. Of course, that won't mean anything to the average Greek who's gotten used to a higher standard of dole.


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